House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 9 May 1643

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 3, 1643-1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Martis, 9 Maii, 1643.


Alnage and Farthing Office.

ORDERED, That Mr. James Harrington and Mr. Wm. Harrington Merchant, be made Overseers of the Accompts of the Alnage, and the Farthing Office, together with the others formerly appointed: That the Monies arising and coming in upon the Profits of the Alnage, and the Farthing Office, be paid into the Hands of Sir Wm. Strickland, a Member of this House, in the mean time, until Mr. James Harrington shall receive a Commission from the Prince Elector Palatine, to enable him to receive the same: The same Monies to be employed for the Use and Benefit of the Prince Elector Palatine.

Warrant to Veruon, &c.

Resolved, &c. That Sir Rob. Vernon and Mr. Manley shall have Mr. Speaker's Warrant to go to Oxon, with Two Horses and One Servant apiece.

Londonderry Forces.

The humble Petition of Robert Thornton, Major, and other Captains, of the City of Londonderry, was this Day read: And it is Ordered, That these Seven Captains and Companies be listed into the Pay of the State; and, hereafter, when the Affairs of that Kingdom shall be better settled, be, according to the Certificate of their Musters, paid what shall be due unto them, according to the Entertainment of the Army there; or otherwise, satisfied for their Pay in Land: This Entertainment to begin upon the Day of their next Muster.

Bishop of Raphoe's Petition.

Ordered, That the humble Petition of John Leslie, Bishop of Raphoe in Ireland, be referred to the Committee for Adventurers in Ireland; to bear and examine the Truth of the Matter of this Petition, and of the Allegations laid down in it, concerning the Importance, of the Castle of Raphoe; and to consider what is fit to be done upon it; and report it.

Baker's Estate.

Ordered, That Mr. Reynolds do write to Sir Je. Temple to use his best Endeavour to preserve the Estate of Captain Baker, lately slain in these Wars, to Use and Benefit of his Wife.

Member admitted.

Upon the Report from the Committee for absent Members,

It is reported, that Mr. Bassett be admitted into the House.

Horses, &c. seized.

Ordered, That Colonel Morley shall have the Horses, Saddles, and Arms, staid and seized by him; and employ them in the Service of the Parliament he is now in.

Members to attend.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Tho. Moore, Mr. Geo. Searle, Mr. Hartnoll Burgess for Tiverton, Mr. Rich. Catlyn, Sir Charles Le Gros, Sir Poynings Moore, Sir Tho. Eversfielde, Members of the House, be enjoined to attend the Service of the House, within Ten Days, upon pain of the Forfeiture of Two hundred Pounds a Man, to be levied upon their Lands and Estates.

Absent Members.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for absent Members, to consider of such Members as are absent: And that Mr. Hill do bring in a List of such Members, as are fit to be sent for, to attend the House.

Payment of Taxes, &c.

An Ordinance for securing such in their Estates, as shall pay all Taxes, and obey all Ordinances, and associate, being thereunto duly required, by Order of Parliament, was this Day read; and re-committed unto the same Committee; who are to meet this Afternoon, at Two of Clock in the Exchequer Chamber.

And Mr. Strode, Sir Arth. Heselrig, Sir Peter Wentworth, and Mr. Holland, are added to this Committee: And they are to bring it in To-morrow Morning.

Message from Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edw. Leech and Dr. Bennett:

The Lords have commanded them to communicate unto you these Letters from my Lord Fairfax, addressed to the Speakers of both Houses: And they desire a Conference, by Committees of both Houses, presently, in the Painted Chamber, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House.-

Commissioners to Scotland.

Sir Peter Wentworth went up to the Lords, to desire them to give some Answer concerning the Commissioners to be sent into Scotland.

Letters to be considered.

Ordered, That the Business of these Letters be taken into Consideration, so soon as the Conference shall be ended.-

Conference agreed to.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; that this House will give a present Meeting at a Conference, as is desired.

Mr. Pym, Sir Wm. Armyn, Mr. Holles, are appointed Reporters of this Conference.

Answer from Lords.

Sir Peter Wentworth brings Answer, that the Lords will send Answer to the Message carried up by him, by Messengers of their own.

Army Affairs, &c.

Mr. Holles reports, that the Lords desired this Conference upon those Letters received from my Lord Fairfaxe, which they had sent down hither: That they perceived, by that Letter, in what Condition the Lord Fairfaxe was in; of which they were very sensible, that a Person of so great Merit, that had done so good Service, and expressed so good Affections to the Publick, should suffer. And therefore were assured there should be nothing wanting in this House, to join with them for his Supplies: That for Men, they would write to my Lord General; for Money and Ammunition, they hoped this House would take care for it: And do recommend it, in a special Manner, unto this House.

Ordered, That Sir Wm. Armyn do, from this House, acquaint the Commissioners of Scotland with the Letter intercepted by the Lord Fairfax, from divers Scotch Lords whose Names are thereunto subscribed, to inform the State of Scotland therewith; and to desire that their Persons may be secured, to answer what shall be objected against them from this State.

Resolved, &c. That one Head of a Conference with the Lords shall be, to desire them to join with this House, to send a Messenger into Scotland, to demand Justice upon the Act of Pacification, against those Lords who have practised against this State; as appears by the Letter under their Hands, intercepted by the Lord Fairfax.

Resolved, &c. That one Head shall be, upon this Occasion, to desire the Lords to speed their Answer to the Desires of this House, delivered unto them at a Conference, concerning the sending of Committees from both Houses into Scotland, with such Instructions as shall be agreed on by both Houses.

Sir Wm. Armyn, Mr. Glyn, Mr. Martin, Sir Peter Wentworth, Mr. Reynolds, Sir Jo. Clotworthy, Mr. Strode, Mr. Pym, Mr. Holland, Mr. Bond, Sir Wm. Strickland, Mr. Darley, Mr. Pierrepont, Sir Arth. Heselrig, Mr. Rigby, Sir Robert Pye, Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Whitlock;

This Committee, or any Four of them, are to meet, at the Rising of the House, in the inner Court of Wards, to consider of a Messenger to be sent into Scotland, to demand Justice, upon the Act of Pacification, against those Lords, that subscribed the Letter intercepted by my Lord Fairefax; and to consider of and prepare a Letter, or other Instructions, to be sent to the State of Scotland, concerning this Business, by this Messenger: They are likewise to peruse, and consider of the Act of Pacification; and to prepare Heads for a Conference, to be had with the Lords To-morrow Morning. upon this Business: They are likewise to consider of the Letter and Demands of my Lord Fairefax, and of furnishing him with speedy and convenient Supplies; and of what else is fit and necessary to be done, upon the Matter of that Letter.

Declaration on the Treaty.

Ordered, That, at the next Message, the Lords be desired to speed their Answer to the Declaration, upon the Result of the Treaty delivered unto them at a Conference Yesterday.

Treaty with Scotland.

Ordered, That, To-morrow Morning, Sir Wm. Armyn do report the Business of the Treaty with the Scotts, touching their Forces in Ireland.

King's Message.

Ordered, That his Majesty's Message, touching the Bill for Subscriptions in Ireland, be taken into Consideration To-morrow Morning.

Grant to Dallison.

Upon a Report, this Day made, from the Committee of Lords and Commons, that sits at Haberdushers Hall, for Advance of Monies, of the great Pains taken by Martin Dallison of London, Notary Publick, who hath been entertained to be Clerk to the said Committee, and hath discharged the said Place, with great Care and Fidelity, ever since the Third Day of December last; and, by reason of the Multiplicity and Diversity of the said Employments, his Trade is lost; and his Time, and the Time of divers Clerks, is wholly spent therein; without any Profit accruing to him, or his Clerks, from the said Employment;

It is Ordered, That there be paid by the Treasurers in Guildhall London, unto the said Martin Dallison, Clerk to the said Committee of Lords and Commons for Advance of Monies, for his Pains in the Employments of that Committee since the Third Day of December last, until the Sixth Day of this instant Month of May, Twenty Shillings per Diem, and for Four Clerks Two Shillings apiece per Diem; which, being twenty and two Weeks, at Nine Pounds Sixteen Shillings per Week, amounted to the Sum of Two hundred and Fifteen Pounds and Twelve Shillings: And that, from thenceforth, the like Allowance of Nine Pounds Sixteen Shillings per Week be paid him weekly, during his Employments in the business of the said Committee.