House of Commons Journal Volume 4: 6 May 1646

Die Mercurii, 6 Maii, 1646.

MR. Knightley reports the Business for the present Support of the Earl of Stamford.

Whereas there is discovered (by a Gentleman that hath deserved very well of the Parliament, and suffered very much in their Service, and unto whom a good Sum is owing for his Service) great Sums of Money, in the Hands of several Men, who are Debtors for the same unto the Earl of Worcester, and the Lord Herbert his Son: It is Ordered, That the Committee at Goldsmiths-Hall (to whom Colonel Walton is added, as to this Business) shall have Power, and are hereby authorized, to employ the said Gentleman, or whom else they shall think sit, for the farther Discovery, and gaining in the said Monies; and to reward the Party for his Service out of the same; so as the Reward do not exceed one Fifth-Part of the Money recovered by the said Discoverer; which is to be allowed, upon Account, towards the Satisfaction of his Debt.

Ordered, That, out of the Monies that shall come in upon this Discovery, the Committee at Goldsmiths-Hall do pay the first Fifteen hundred Pounds unto the Earl of Stamford, for his present Subsistence, or his Assigns, upon Account, towards Satisfaction of the Arrears due unto him upon his Entertainment: And the Acquittance and Acquittances of the said Earl, or his Assigns, together with this Order, shall be a sufficient Warrant or Discharge to the said Committee for the Payment thereof.

Resolved, &c. That the Proceed of Two Parts of the Estates of Sir Thomas Jermyn, and Thomas Jermyn Esquire, in the County of Suffolk, and now under Sequestration, be paid, from time to time, by the Committee for Sequestrations, and such as are or shall be employed to collect and receive the same during the Sequestration thereof, not exceeding the Sum of Fifteen hundred Pounds per Annum, unto Henry Earl of Stamford, or his Assigns: And that the other remaining Third-Part of the Proceed of the said Estates be paid and employed for the Use of the said County, according to former Order: And that it be referred back to the said Committee, in case the said Two Parts of the Estates of the said Sir Thomas Jermyn, and Thomas Jermyn, shall not be sufficient to pay the said Fifteen hundred Pounds per Annum to the said Earl, that then they do consider of some other sequestred Estate, to make up what shall be wanting of the said Fifteen hundred Pounds per Annum; and bring in an Ordinance for Settling and Payment of the same accordingly.

The humble Petition of John Stephens Esquire was this Day read: And

It is thereupon Ordered, That it be referred to Mr. Pury, to bring in an Ordinance for Satisfaction of the Damages sustained by Mr. John Stephens in the Burning of his House and Barns, and other Plunderings, by Sir Jacob Astley, and others, out of the Estate of the said Sir Jacob Astley in the County of Kent, by Sale or Assignment of the said Estate.

An Ordinance for paying the Debt of Four thousand Pounds, owing by the Parliament to the City of Gloucester, out of a Debt owing to Sir Humphry Tracy, a Delinquent to the Parliament, by Henry Poole Esquire, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

Sir Robert Pye is to carry it to the Lords.

An Ordinance for Payment, out of Sir Humphry Tracie's Fine, for his Delinquency, Fifteen hundred Pounds to Sir Wm. Lister, for his present Satisfaction, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

Ordered, That the Committee of Lords and Commons for Advance of Monies, at Haberdashers-Hall, do forthwith pay unto Richard Johnson, the Trumpeter that brought the News of the Surrender of Banbury-Castle, Twenty Pounds, bestowed upon him for this and other Services.

The humble Petition of Sir Walter Erle Knight, a Member of this House, was this Day read: And

It is Ordered, That it be referred to the Gentlemen of Dorsetshire, Members of this House, to examine the Petitioner's Losses and Damages; and to consider of some Way and Means for his Relief and Satisfaction; and to report their Opinions to the House: And have Power to meet when and where they shall think most convenient.

The humble Petition of Sir John Evelyn, of Godstone in the County of Surrey, was this Day read: And

It is thereupon Ordered, That, out of the Sequestration, or upon the Sale, of Sir George Strode's Lands and Estate, the Sum of One thousand Pounds, due and owing by the said Sir George Strode, unto Sir John Evelyn, of Godston in the County of Surrey, and all Interest in Arrear, and to become due, for the Forbearance thereof, shall be paid and satisfied to the said Sir John Evelyn, or his Assigns, in Satisfaction and Discharge of the said Debt.

Mr. Wheeler to bring in an Ordinance to this Purpose.

Ordered, That, on Saturday Morning next, the first Business, the Business for Ireland be taken into Consideration: And that Mr. Speaker put the House in mind hereof.

Message from the Lords, by Doctor Aylett and Doctor Heath;

The Lords have received this Report from the Committee of Lords and Commons for Sequestrations: Upon the whole Matter of the Report from the said Committee, they have sent you their Sense upon it: It is the Case of Mr. Charles Howard of the North.

The Case was read: And the Lords Sense upon it was read; and was in hæc verba; viz.

"Upon the whole Matter of the Report from the Committee of Lords and Commons for Sequestrations;"

"The Lords think fit so far to favour Mr. Charles Howard, as to free his Estate from all Sequestrations thereon, holding the said Mr. Howard a fit Subject for their Favour."

Resolved, &c. That the Answer to this Message shall be, That the House will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Resolved, &c. That the Rents, and Arrears of Rents, due upon the Sequestration of Mr. Charles Howard's Estate, be forthwith paid into the Use and Service of the State.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Charles Howard be referred to the Committee at Goldsmiths-Hall, for his Composition for his Delinquency.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Sir Henry Mildmay went to the Lords, to desire their Concurrence, That Sir Hardres Waller may command the Forces that are now to go to Jersey: And that the Committee of both Kingdoms may grant him a Commission accordingly.

He carried with him to the Lords, for their Concurrence, the Order for a Pass for Mr. Lumley, and One Servant, and Two Horses, to go into France: And was to put the Lords in mind of the Ordinance for putting Delinquents and Papists out of the Lines of Communication; because the former Ordinance determines this Day.

Sir Robert Pye brings Answer from the Lords, That they will return an Answer, by Messengers of their own, to the Ordinance for Four thousand Pounds, out of Sir Humphry Tracie's Estate, for the Use of Gloucester, with all Expedition.

A Letter from the Lord Savill, of the Fifth of this instant May, from the Tower, directed to Mr. Henry Marten, one of the Members of this House, with the Petition and Declaration of the said Lord Savill's inclosed, were all this Day read.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of the West, to take it into their speedy Consideration, How to provide for the Payment of the Garison of Exeter; and to report their Opinions thereupon to the House on Friday Morning next.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of the West, to consider how to provide for the Payment of Colonel Ceelie's Regiment; and for the Maintenance of the Garisons in the Western Association.

Sir Henry Mildmay brings Answer from the Lords, That, as to the Appointing of Sir Hardres Waller to be Commander of the Forces that are now to go to Jersey, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own: And, as to the Pass for Mr. Lumley, his Servant, and Two Horses, to go beyond Seas; they do agree.

The Articles made and agreed upon between Sir Thomas Fairfax General, and Sir John Berkeley, Governor of Exeter, upon the Rendition of the said City, &c. to his Excellency Sir Thomas Fairfaxe; were all this Day read; and, upon the Question, approved.

Ordered, That it be referred to the General, to reduce the Horse late under the Command of Colonel Massy, Commander in Chief of the Western Associated Counties: And that such and so many of them, as he shall not think fit to employ in the Army under his Command, be sent into Ireland, under the Command of the Lord Lisle: And that it be referred to the Committee of the West, to take care for the Payment of the Fifth-Part of their Arrears to the Officers, upon their Reducement.

Ordered, That Mr. Scawen do present such Propositions, as he shall think fit, to the House, To-morrow Morning, for the due and constant Pay of the Army.

Mr. Marten reports, from the Committee, Conditions to be offered to the Garisons of the Kingdom that do still hold out against the Parliament: The which were read; and nothing more done upon them.

A Letter from the Commissioners of both Houses residing with the Scotts Army before Newark, from Colonel Rosseter's Tent, at the Leaguer before Newark, of 5 Maii 1646; with another Letter inclosed, of the same Date.

Part of a Letter from Monsieur Augier, from Paris, of 4 Maii/24 Aprilis 1646, was likewise read.

Resolved, &c. That it be left to the General, to dispose of the Field-Forces, and other Forces of the Parliament, according to his best Judgment; and to give such Conditions, as he shall think fit, to any Garisons that hold out against the Parliament.

A Message from the Lords, by Dr. Aylett and Dr. Heath;

The Lords have commanded us to return you this Ordinance concerning the excluding all Delinquents and Papists out of the Lines of Communication: To which they do agree; with these Alterations and Amendments: To which they desire your Concurrence:-An Ordinance for making Mr. Richard Hall Parson of Beverston: To which they desire your Concurrence:-An Ordinance concerning the Captives at Salley in Barbary: To which they desire your Concurrence:-An Ordinance for Philip Nisbett to be Parson of Kirklington in Yorkshire: To which they desire your Concurrence:-An Ordinance for John Diggle to be Parson of Chidingford: To which they desire your Concurrence:-An Ordinance upon the Petition of Major Edward Basse: To which they desire your Concurrence: -A Pass for Six Horses, for the Use of the young Prince of Orange: To which they desire your Concurrence. They desire also to put this House in mind of an Ordinance concerning Mr. Coytmore.

The Lords Amendments and Alterations to the Ordinance for putting Delinquents and Papists out of the Lines of Communication were read; and, upon the Question, assented unto.

Ordered, That the Committee of the Militia of the City of London do publish the Ordinance for putting Delinquents and Papists out of the Lines of Communication, this Afternoon, by Beat of Drum, or Sound of Trumpet, within the Cities of London and Westminster: And that Notice thereof be given to the several Courts of Guard. And Mr. Allen and Colonel Ven are to take care hereof.

Ordered, That the Committee of the Army do bring in an Ordinance To-morrow Morning, with further Power of keeping Papists and Delinquents out of the Lines of Communication, for Supply of the Defects in the Ordinance this Day passed: Wherein Provision is to be made, and Care taken, that they do not go or resort to the Scotts Army.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of Lords and Commons, appointed by Ordinance for the Affairs of the Army, or any Four of them, to receive and examine any Informations that shall be given them concerning any Treaties or Intelligences whatsoever, either with the King, or with any other Person or Persons, which may any way tend to the Prejudice of the Parliament, or of their Proceedings. And

It is further Ordered, That the Members of this House that are of the said Committee, be, and are hereby, injoined Secrecy in the Premises; and not to impart their Proceedings, or any of them, to any Person or Persons whatsoever, until the House be first acquainted therewith: And that the Lords that be Members of the said Committee, be desired to keep the like Secrecy herein.

Answer returned by the same Messengers;

The House has considered their Lordships Message: And, as to the Amendments and Alterations to the Ordinance for putting Delinquents and Papists out of the Lines of Communication, they do agree: And, as to the rest, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Resolved, &c. That the House do sit again this Afternoon at Four of Clock, to take the said Letters from the Leaguer before Newark into further Consideration. And

Mr. Speaker adjourned the House accordingly.

Post Meridiem.

The Letter from the Commissioners from both Houses residing with the Forces before Newark, of 5 Maii 1646; the inclosed Letter, from the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland to the Commissioners of both Houses, of the same Date, from Southwell; were again read.

Part of the Letter from Monsieur Augier, Agent for the Parliament in France, from Paris, of 4 Maii/24 Aprilis 1646, to Mr. Speaker, was likewise read again.

A Letter from Colonel-General Points, of 5 Maii 1646, concerning the King's being at Kelham, was this Day read.

The House being informed, That Colonel-General Pointes his Secretary, who brought this Letter, was at the Door;

He was called in; and informed the House of the State of the Forces before Newark.

Ordered, That the Gentleman that brought the Letter from the Commissioners of the Parliament from the Leaguer before Newark, shall have the Sum of Thirty Pounds bestowed upon him for his Pains: And that the Committee of Goldsmiths-Hall do forthwith advance and pay the said Thirty Pounds to him accordingly.

Ordered, That Colonel General Points his Secretary, who brought the Letter from the said Colonel-General Points, shall have the Sum of Thirty Pounds bestowed upon him for his Pains: And that the Committee of Goldsmiths-Hall do forthwith advance and pay the said Thirty Pounds to him accordingly.

A Letter from the Scotts Commissioners, of 6 Maii 1646, from Worcester-House, was this Day read.

The Question being put, Whether Candles should be now brought in;

It passed with the Affirmative.

And Candles were thereupon brought in accordingly.

The Question was propounded, Whether it should be desired of the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland residing with the Scotts Army before Newark, and also of the General of the Scotts Army there, That the Person of the King may be disposed of to such Place within this Kingdom, as the Two Houses of Parliament shall appoint:

And the Question being put, Whether this Question should be now put, or not;

It passed with the Affirmative.

And then the Question itself being put;

It is Resolved, &c. That it be desired of the Scotts Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland, residing with the Scotts Army before Newark, and also of the General of the Scotts Army there, That the Person of the King may be disposed of to such a Place within this Kingdom, as the Two Houses of Parliament shall appoint.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Resolved, &c. That the Place to which the Person of the King shall be disposed of, shall be Warwick-Castle.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. John Ashburnbam, and all the other Persons that came with the King into the Scotts Army before Newark, be forthwith sent for in safe Custody, as Delinquents.

Ordered, That the Commissioners of both Houses of the Parliament of England, residing with the Scotts Army before Newark, do acquaint the Scotts General there with this Vote; and take care, that the said Mr. Ashburnham, and those other Persons, may be delivered over to the Deputy of the Serjeant at Arms attending this House.

Ordered, That the Commissioners of both Houses of the Parliament of England, residing with the Scotts Army before Newark, do send a Narrative to this House of the Manner of the King's coming to the Scotts Army before Newark; and of all Circumstances that have happened since the King's coming thither.

Ordered, That the Paper, sent in to the House from the French Resident, be referred to the Committee of Examinations: And that the Guard, now about his House, be forthwith discharged.

Ordered, That the Lords be acquainted, That there are Seven of the Members of this House that are of the Committee appointed to reside with the Scotts Army before Newark, now there upon the Place, and but one of the Members of the House of Peers: And that the Lords be desired to appoint a proportionable Number of their Members, that are of the said Committee, immediately to go down thither.