Henry VIII: November 1538 6-10

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Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 13 Part 2, August-December 1538. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1893.

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November 1538 6-10

6 Nov. 764. Cromwell to Dr. [Lee] and William Cavendish.
R. O. They are to repair to the monasteries of St. Oses and Colchester, and dissolve the same, assigning pensions to the persons there, according to the King's commission, and putting the lord Chancellor and the Chancellor of Augmentations each in possession of one of them. London, 6 Nov. 30 Hen. VIII. Signed.
P. 1. Address worn and nearly illegible.
6 Nov. 765. The Marchioness of Exeter
R. O. 6 Nov:—"The lady Marques" examined, confesses that she showed lord Montacute that her husband was admonished by some friends to keep no company with him; she also told him the King had sent to her husband in his house in London for a certain bearward; and that she had heard Sir Edw. Nevill say divers times, and sometimes [sing] merrily, that he trusted this world would amend and that honest men should rule one day, and that she had blamed him for so saying. Sir Edw. Nevill showed her that the King had sent Peter Meotes over sea to slay card. Pole with a hand gun. Signed: [Gertrude] Exeter.
9 Nov:—The said lady further says that when her husband went Northwards at the time of the insurrection, Sir Edw. Nevell came to her and said, "Madam, how do you? Be you merry?" She replied, "How can I be merry? My lord is gone to battle, and he will be one of the [foremost]." Sir Edward said again," Madame, be not afeared of this, nor of the second, but beware of the third." Examinate said again to him, "[Ah] Mr. Nevell, you will never leave your Welsh prophecies, but one day this will turn you to displeasure."
12 Nov:—She further says that she has heard Sir Edward sing in her garden at Horsley that Peter Meotes was gone over seas to kill Card. Pole. She also said she had heard him say many times in the said garden [that he] trusted [knaves should be] put down and lords should reign on[e day]."
Pp. 2. Mutilated, and injured by damp. Words lost supplied from the copy in No. 804 iii.
6 Nov. 766. Sir Geoffrey Pole.
R. O. Examination of Elizabeth Darell, 6 Nov. Confesses that she heard the King had sent Peter Meotes into France to kill cardinal Pole with a hand gun. Cannot remember who told her this; but Sir Geoffrey Pole speaking of it, said to her, "By God's blood, and if he (Meotes) had slain him I would have thrust my dagger [in] him [althou]gh he had [been] at the King's heels."
P.1. Mutilated and faded.
6 Nov. 767. Dr. John London to [Cromwell].
Cleop. E. iv.
B. M.Wright's
of the
Is now at Godstow to execute the King's commission. My Lady takes his coming pensively, and desires to defer her answer till she know the King's pleasure. Will meanwhile "ripe" himself in the state of the house, and, if the King wishes the surrender taken, hopes she will be favourably dealt with, as she has lately paid her first fruits and was endangered therefor to her friends. Many of the "mynchys" be also aged. My lord of Dover took away the convent seals of many of the friars suppressed and bade them live upon their stock and plate. Where the King is not a founder, has taken a feoffment besides the surrender. Did so by lord Bawdwyn's counsel at Aylesbury. Has sent up all the plate, which, with that delivered to Gostwick, amounts to l,808½ oz. This is besides the plate of Oxford and the friars of Beading before delivered to Mr.Thacker. Desires capacities for the friars with speed as meanwhile they have no livings, Cromwell's injunctions forbidding any friar to serve a cure. Has sold nothing at Tellisford (fn. n1) Cross Friars beside Warwick for the house stands alone and would have been all spoiled if he had begun a sale before he came again. In the Austin Friars at Hampton (fn. n2) a little before he came the prior divided 30l, of plate money among his brethren. Has put the prior in prison for it and got 40s. of the money again. Godstow, 6 Nov.
This morning my Lady wholly refers herself to your pleasure; and I beg you to favour her and her sisters. When I am at the Charter house of Coventry, Colme is within three miles.
Hol., p. 1.
6 NOV. 768. The Council of the North to Cromwell.
R. O. Report is that the houses of the four orders of friars shall be dissolved. The Council since it was erected has always, when in York, stayed at the dean's house, where there is no garden or open air for them. The Black Friars' house called Toftis, in the city, stands openly and commodiously, and was formerly a palace of the King's progenitors. Beg him to move the King to appoint the house of Toftis to be the habitation of his Council always in the North; and to give them the stone, glass, &c., of the Friars Augustines, in York "standing very cold on the water of Owse without open air saving on the same water which always is very contagious as well in winter as in summer by means of sundry corrupt and common channels, sinkers, and gutters of the said city conveyed under the same," as my lord of "Durham can declare; with which material the King could at least cost make a house for the Council, fit to receive the King when he repairs thither.
When the King's lieutenant or his Council repair to Newcastle-uponTyne there is no house there meet to receive them but the Friars Augustines, as Norfolk and Durham can report. Beg that it may be similarly appointed for the use of the Council. York, 6 Nov. Signed: Robt. Landaffe— T. Magnus — M. Constable—Rauff Ellerker k. jun.—Robert Bowis— Will'm Bathorpe (sic)—Robt. Chaloner—Jo. Uvedale.
Pp. 2. Add.. Lord Privy Seal. Endd.: A.o 30.o
6 Nov. 769. George Abp. of Dublin to Cromwell.
R. O.
St. P. iii.
Omitted to write in his last by Mr. Treasurer's servant that the Observants are in despair and the people's devotion withdrawn from them. Nevertheless the Deputy in his zeal for their religion has given passports to Friar Russell "a lay lewd brother "and another young friar to go to the King to sue for the maintenance of their religion; and this in spite of the Master of the Rolls' persuasions to the contrary. So now they expect to win the people's minds back again. Need of master of Faculties or there must always be a multitude of Rome runners; for not 20 in a 100 of the Irishry are legitimate, so they must have licences to take promotions. The Master of the Rolls is the meetest man here to be Chancellor.
The bearer, my servant, (fn. n3) was kept by the lord of Kilmainham 19 weeks in Dublin Castle, for how ponderous a matter he can show. Asks Cromwell to take him into his service. He is a young man of good substance. The bishop the King wrote of, and the friar of Molyngar, (fn. n4) were indicted at Trym "upon premanire (sic) which shall not be worth the King's Highness one groat." How that matter was canvassed he knows not, but they are good clerks and might do good service if they could be trusted. Begs a letter to the Barons of the Exchequer here to exempt him from doing homage as he has already done it to the King. Dublin, 6 Nov. Signed.
Add.: Lord Privy Seal. Endd.
[7 Nov.] 770. Sir Geoffrey Pole
R.O. Depositions of Sir Geoffrey Pole on his 3rd, 4th, and 5th examinations. Signed. See No. 804.
Corrected draft, pp. 7, very mutilated and illegible in parts.
771. The State Prisoners.
R. O. Questions to be put to Sir Edw. Nevell, Lord Montacute and the marquis of Exeter.
i. Sir Edward Nevell.
(1.) Whether he said to Sir Geoffrey Pole, "I trust this world will amend one day." (2.) Whether he said the like to the lady Marquis at any time, and (3.) upon what ground. (4.) Whether he said to the lady Marquis he trusted honest men should rule one day. (5.) And what he meant by it. (6.) Whether he told her that Peter Meotes was sent over sea to slay cardinal Pole with a hand gun; (7.) and of whom he heard it.
ii. Lord Montacute.
(1.) Whether the lady Marquis told him that her husband was warned by certain friends to keep no company with him; and (2.) that the lord Privy Seal had sent to her husband concerning a certain bearward.
iii. The Marquis of Exeter.
(1.) Whether he told Sir Geoffrey Pole, or any other in his presence, that he misliked the proceedings in the realm and wished for a change. (2) What conferences he has had with lord Montacute. (3.) And whether they agreed to take one part. (4.) Whether he told lord Montacute that the lord Privy Seal had sent to him "to utter him that showed you of the bearward then being in prison for treason;" and (5.) whether you showed him at the same time you would never disclose anything to the hurt of your friend. (6.) Whether you showed lord Montacute that the lord Privy Seal had sent Mr. Richard Cromwell to you at the King's being at Oking to be frank and plain in certain things. (7.) Whether you told him you were warned by certain friends to avoid his company and desired him to forbear yours. (8.) Whether any letters were sent from the lady your wife [to] lord Montacute and whether she made you privy to their contents. (9.) Whether you showed her that you offered in Council to be bound body for body for the said lord Montacute. (10.) Whether you said to Sir Geoffrey Pole, holding up and shaking your fist, "Knaves rule about the King. I trust to give them a buffet one day."
Corrected draft, pp. 2.
R. 0. 2. [In]terrogato[ries to be] ministered to the lord [M]ontagu[e].
"In primis, what was the communication between the lord Montague and the Cardinal at their departing, fo. ijdo tercia examination Galfridi Poole." * * * (three items lost). " . . . . . said Sir Geoffrey . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . re to him good mind till she perceived the K[ing favoured] him and then they said this examinate (?) . . . . . . . . and therefore trust him no longer ther . . . . . . . . . . . [Geo]ffray Poole who were they that wold tr[ust] him [n]o longer, fo. iijo, iiijta examinatione. Added in Cromwell's hand: He ans[wereth] the l[ord]e marques [and] the lorde Mowntacue and such as were [of their] opinion."
Item, [to] inquire of the said Sir Geoffrey how and by whom and what time and day he knew the Marquis and lord Montague did not like any doings of the King. In Cromwell's hand: "He answery[th] that he hath . . . . everye daye . . seven yere both . . . the lorde [Marqui]s..... . . . . and also by the lord Mowntagews saying (?) [four more lines very illegible, near the end of which may be read, ". . . this xij monthe (?) and last Aprile....."
Item, b.....Morgan . . . appointed to go over the sea to . . . . . . . . . Mutas [or] any other that would kill the C[ardina]ll.
Item, to examine lord Montague what it was that they of the Parliament house did or said for fear, and when Montague and the lord of Huntingdon said so.
* * * (three items lost).
"[Item, whe]rin Geoffrey Poo[le mislik]ed the doings of the Re[al]me and liked well [the proceedings of the Cardinal and for what acts..... ent and the day and year."
Item, how he knows the Marquis and Montague were of that opinion, and the day, year, and place. (The answer is added in Cromwell's hand but is too Jaded to be read).
Item, to inquire of Colyns what proceedings of this realm Montague misliked or why he grudged at this world.
"Item . . . . . . my lord Montague did . . . . . . . . . letters . . . . unto the Kin[g and un]to my [lorde Privy] Seal and delyvered them to Colyns to . . . . . before the delyverie to the King.
"Item, to inquire of Colyns what writinges or letters Colyns delyvered this last Somer (?) to the vicar of Medmen[ham] in a cofre and what was the contents of the same writinges * * *
"Item [to in]quire of Colyns when he........person .... of chaunge of the world . . . . . . . . . . shuld [h]appen the ladye Marie s[hould succeed] to [the C]rown with [w]hom wh . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . had such [communication . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ."
"[Item to] examine Crofts what he meant when he [sai]d that because he never found lord De [la War]e at any time waver in the old opinions h[e spak]e no more thereof to him."
Very mutilated, pp. 3.
7 Nov. 772. The Lord Montague.
R. O. His examination, 7 Nov. 30 Hen. VIII.
"The lord Montacute confesseth" he received letters from the lady Marquis, saying her husband had offered "in counsayle" to be bound "body for body" for him. The lord Marquis in his own house showed examinate that the lord Privy Seal had sent to know who showed him of his servant (fn. n5) that then was in prison, and he had answered he would never disclose his friend if it touched not the King. At the King's late being at the lord Marquis' house, the lord Marquis told him (examinate?) he had been warned by friends to avoid his company. "He saith also that he hath lived in prison all these six years." Doctor Sterkey told him Ids brother the Cardinal, then in Flanders, should be brought home quick or dead, "and that Peter Meotes [was gone over sea], and would rid him one way or other." Related this "to [Elizabeth Dar]ell." "His brother Sir [Geoffrey in communica]tion showed him that the keeping of letters in[ight turn a manne]s friend to hurt, and this examinate answered again, Nay they shall hurt no fry[nde] of mine for I have bur[ned all] my letters. He sayeth also upon further examination [that he hath been pre]sent when Sir Edward Nevell hath song [merry songs. And] the lady Marq[uis bein]g also present ha[th willed] hym to st[o]p or s[tay] ther, [but] he sayeth that he never heard Sir Edward Nevell utter a[nything] in those songs other than merry things. Ho sayeth also that [he was at Hackney] on Sunday last, and there spake with [Mres] D[a]rell; [Examy]nyd [for whatt] cause he w[ent thither, and] of whatt [things he] then [and there com]munyd [with her. awnswereth that Sir Anthonie Hungerforde] being of late in the town, and communication being begun between this examinate, the said Sir Anthony and Mres Darrell" touching 100l. due to Mrs. Darrell, he then went to show Mrs. Darrell that Sir Anthony was gone from London, and no good could be done therein. Mrs. Darrell showed him "that his brother Sir Geoffrey had almost slain himself, and lamented that act." Has often said he liked not Warblinton, and that he would to God the lord Aburgavenney "had not died, for his son's sake." Signed: Henry Mount [agu].
Pp. 2. Mutilated and much injured by damp. Mutilations supplied from the other copies. Nos. 804 ii. and 830 v., and the abridgment, No. 831 iii.
7 [Nov.] 773. Lady Lisle to [Lord Lisle].
R. O. I have had a fair but some somewhat slow passage. I landed this night at 10, and was but once sick all the way, and was merry, and should have been merrier if I had been coming towards you. Also I departed so hastily without taking my leave as I thought you would have been in the boat and brought me to the ship as you said you would.
I began this letter last night, intending to send it you by John Nele, but as it was late there "was no provision ready for me; but whilst the supper was dressing, I told John Nele, Markes, John Smythe, and Lame, whom I had at supper, merry tales : and then John Nele promised me to come again in the morning for a token and letter to you. But he left without warning at 3 in the morning, and I fear you will consider it unkindness that I have been negligent in writing to you. The counsel of John Nele did me much ease, and caused us to come to land sooner than we should have done; but by this act he has done me more displeasure than pleasure. Be good to Asheton the gunner, for he is a very honest man and loves you well. Lame had an evil chance, and ran his ship against the pier, but I was out of it at the time. He will take no money of me for the passage, except two crowns for himself, and you are to arrange with his owner. I gave him the two crowns for the damage done to his bowsprit. Dover, 7 Oct. (fn. n6) Signed.
Tell Mrs. Mynshaw her son William was not sick all the way. Husey has not yet come. I intend to ride to Sittingbourne tonight, but the weather is boisterous.
7 Nov. 774. Lady Lisle to Lord Lisle.
R. O. Husey met me at Canterbury, and tells me that my lord Privy Seal is determined to have Paynswick, and he says that you promised him it when you were at Canterbury. If it is so, I might as well have tarried at home, "but only for this matter, as you shall perceive by George Roll's letter." I pray God I lose no more. Husey tells me I cannot lie at Sir Chr. Mores' house but at the house which he first provided. What this means I cannot tell. This journey will be very costly. It has cost me already 40 crowns, and yet I have not paid all my charges, "howbeit 24 of them were gone ere I came from Calais." Canterbury, 7 Nov. Signed by Lady Lisle, and below by Geo. Boll.
P. 1. Add.
7 Nov. 775. William Freurs to Cromwell.
R. O. On Tuesday last, Dr. London, as commissioner, visited the house at Godstowe, of which, being in the country, I heard not till "Wednesday, and in consequence of the colic I am not able to visit you. I beg you will get me a grant of all the demesnes of the late monastery of Godstowe to me and my heirs at a reasonable rate, and send your letters to Dr. London to stay the cattle and corn, and household stuff, with the ploughs and carts unsold, till you know whether I shall have the house and the demesnes; for if so the cattle, &c. is meeter for me than for another man, to be appraised by some indifferent person. If I have it at Dr. London's hands, from old grudges that he owes to me and my wife, I shall pay the uttermost. If I had this house I should save something to help me and my wife. I will give you for your good will 40l., and more as I prosper in it. Oxford, 7 Nov.
Hol., p. I. Add.: Lord Privy Seal. Endd.
7 Nov. 776. Disaffection in the North.
R. O. Confession of Geo. Taylour of Kennyngbale before Ric. Southwell, Rob. Holldytche, John Clere, Edw. Callthroppe, and John Robbesarte. 7 Nov. 30 Hen. VIII.
That Rob. Mathewe being at the house of——Craske in Barnyngham, Suff., beside Hopton, Craske asked him whence he came. He said from Lincolnshire, and being asked "What tidings?" said good tidings. Craske then said "My lord of Norfolk made a good stay among you." To which Mathewe replied "that it was my lord of Shrewsbury, for he sent his son among the host and set a stay among them, and that my lord of Norfolk durst not be seen among them; for the which the Northern men did beshrew my lord of Shrewsbury." He said also that the King of Scots had 60,000 good Englishmen, as good fighting men as were in England. Signed by the Justices.
ii. The confession of John Taylour, son to the said George, viz.:—that he and Mathewe met between Barneham and Ewston, Suff., and on his asking Mathewe what tidings in Lincolnshire, the latter replied "Never worse; for the country was spoiled and the abbeys pulled down, and many men lost their livings, and they be fled into Scotland, and that the Scottish king had three score thousand of good Englishmen out of the same abbeys, that they were able to make the King's grace of England as great a field as ever he had since England was England, and that before Easter or Christmas or sooner than men would ween." He also says that at the rising in the North when Norfolk should have set an unity among them, he durst not show his head, "but cried Peep !,"but my lord of Shrewsbury set a stay between the North country and this country, and therefore he did beshrew the earl of Shrewsbury's heart, for and he had not been, my lord of Norfolk had the worst end of the staff."
iii. The confession of Robt. Mathewe that he came out of Lincolnshire three weeks ago to seek work "and bochercrafte" in Norfolk. Met George Taylor of Kenninghale and his son John between Newmarket and Iklyngham sands, who promised to bring him to a master called Pickering. He went with them to Ewston beside Thetford where they lay that night, and they moved him to be of their company, saying that ere long they would find the means that he should have 40s. in his purse and a good gelding to ride on. They said they had stolen a horse and sold it at Ely fair for 8s., and hid the panel and bridle in certain furze. They afterwards came to Gyssing and lay at one Syger's house, having two deaf daughters. Thence they went to Harlyston and lay at the sign of the Pie. They then went to view a poor man's house in Suffolk beside Bungay with a view to rob him, and Robert Mathewe asked his wife whether she had any fat bullocks to sell. This was only to enable them to take a survey of the house that they might break into it. They alterwards went into a wood beside a house where they lay till 11 p.m., and then caused the said Robert to remain in a close while they stole a sheet and certain smocks out of the yard, which they sold at Diss. They then desired Robert to rob the poor man near Bungay on Hallow-mas night; but he refused in order to rid himself from their company.
Pp. 4. Endd.
7 Nov. 777. Sir Thos. Wharton to Cromwell.
Calig. B. vii.
B. M.
St.P.v. 140.
Since he last wrote, received an immediate summons to repair to the Council of the North at Darnton, where he received orders to proceed with Scotland for conservation of peace. On Tuesday the 5th, met with Maxwell "upon the Debateable" to devise for good rule, and next morning, the 6th, at a day of march at Baitting Buske, where the numbers were much like on either side. Have agreed to meet daily for a time. Hearing that John Heron, one of the murderers of Roger Fenveke, was at the said day of march, tried to place bushments between him and Scotland, and opened the matter to Maxwell in presence of the writer's brother, Sir Thos. Curven and Sir Will Musgrave; but Maxwell, seeing that he had a safe conduct from the king of Scots, feared his arrest would create a battle, and Wharton gave it up. One Andrew Bell, a Scotch rebel who was exiled from his country and, unable to live upon the sea, took refuge in France, where it is said Geo. Douglas "did either buy or desire him" and brought him to London, has been committing outrages on the West Marches, in league with Tyndall men. Has commanded the subjects not to resett him. Thinks Cromwell should command Geo. Douglas to call him away. He is a very false Scot.
The queen of Scots is supposed to be with child. The King has ordered Sir Adam Otterburn to be committed to ward in Dumbarton, for intelligence with the Douglases. Sir Jas. Colwell, who was Comptroller, is kept prisoner for his accounts. One Frere Jerom, a learned man, has been taken at Dumfries and lies in irons like to suffer for the Englishmen's opinions; which, however, thank God, are spreading.
Desires Cromwell to favour the petitioners for the lordship of Holme. (fn. n7) Carlisle, 7 Nov. Signed.
Calig. B. vii.
B. M.
ii. "The copy of letter sent to the king of Scots from Sir Thomas Whartton."
Is commanded to proceed for redress en the West Marches. On Wednesday 6 Nov., endeavoured to arrest John Heron, Englishman, rebel and traitor who was present at the day of march. Being told he had a Scotch safeconduct. desired that he might be arrested and brought before the Scotch officer and himself; and a warden serjeant had his fee to arrest him, but he escaped. Begs the King will direct his letters to the lord Maxwell to have him surrendered. Carlisle, 7 Nov.
P. 1.
778. [Lord Lisle] to Mr. Palmer.
R. O. Master Palmer, commend me to Mr Wriothesley, and say I long to hear from him. I have word out of England that he shall come home shortly. I have no news but what he knows already, i.e., that my lord marquis of Exeter and lord Montague are in the Tower, and Sir Edward Nevell has since been put in the Tower. "I dare write of no more as yet." My wife is gone to England to defend the right of my son Basset in certain inheritance, wherein the lord of Bruggewater will do him wrong. One Mahiew de Blekk, Fleming, during the last war between the Emperor and French king, brought horses here and sold them to me and the men-at-arms and other the King's subjects, but not to Frenchmen. For this, as contrary to the Emperor's ordinance against conveying horses out of Flanders, he is imprisoned at Casselbergh and like to be hanged. As Mahiew is my friend, I beg you sue to the Lady Regent for his pardon and send it hither with speed. You shall be rewarded.
Copy, pp. 2, in the hand of Lisle's clerk.
8 Nov. 779. Lord Montague and the Exeter Family.
R. O. "The 8th of November anno regni Regis 30.
"George Tyrell, servant to the lord Montacute, with whom he has dwelled these iij years last past, being examined, sayeth that within fortnight after his coming to the said lord Montacute about Christmas shall be iij year, he was sent by him with letters to the lad[y] marquis of Exeter th[en b]eing at Horaley, th[e contents of the] which letters were, as he [perceived] by thanswer [of the sa]yd lady and not otherwise, was to know how [the lord]e Marquis did at that time and what ho[pe was of] his recovery. [An]d the said [lady] wrote at that time letters [to the lord] Montacute again, declaring in] th[e] sa[me] that she almost [despaired o]f her husband's [recovery, he was so sick.] And [other] message he sayeth at [that time he carried] not nor receiv[ed]. He sayeth also that at Candlemas th[en ne]xt following he was sent with [ot]her letters to the lady Marquis again for the same purpose. At which time the said lady said to this deponent 'Commend me to my lord your Master [an]d [bid] him [be o]f good comfort, for my husb[and] is well reco[vered, thanks be to Go]d.' And at that time the said la[dy] wrote letters to [t]he [lord Montacu]te by this examinate, but he know[eth] nothing of the con[tents of] them otherwise than [he hath] spok[en] be[fore]. He s[aith also] that at [summer] then [next following he w[as] sent in message [to] the lord Marquis to know of [the time w]hen the [King] would be with him, and carried to his master answer [that within] xiiij da[ys] then next following. He sayeth further that a[t Michaelmas] was ij years he was sent again w[ith] letters to the lo[rd Ma]rquis and to the lady Marquis also, then being at Horsley, but he knoweth nothing of the contents of them, saving that the lord Montacute then certified the lord Marquis that he would ride in to Leicestershire to th'earl of Huntingdon, and at that time he had no letters again. He carried also other l[etter]s from his master to the lady Marquis at Candlemas then next [fo]llowing, other at East[er next,] other at Midsummer, and other at Easter last past, and never more to his [rememb]rance; and at ever[y] time brought answer again in writing; but he sayeth of his faith and allegiance he never knew [any] contents of any of the said letters. Examined what communication hath been at the delivery of any the said letters, answereth, None to him but generally to give commendations and to deliver the letters. He sayeth also that he never spake with the lord Marqniin his li[fe ab]ove i[ij tim]es." Signed: By me, George Tyrell.
"An[d up]on further [examin]ation what communi[cation] he hath at (?) ...... [he]rd between the la[dy] of Salysbe[ry and the lord] Montacute at divers suppers or [any other ti]me answereth, None; for he sayeth when the said lord Montacute was [with] (fn. n8) the lady his mother none of his servants saving one boy waited at the table, and at other times he hath heard [no communi]at[ion betw]een them, for neither he nor [any of his fellowcame] where she was." Signed.
Much mutilated and injured by damp. Words lost supplied from Nos. 830 (2 v.) and 831 vii.
8 Nov. 780. Lady Lisle to Lord Lisle.
R. O. I am sorry that John Nelle left yesterday without my letters. I met Husee at Canterbury, who tells me that Sir Chr. Morys has no room in his house for me because Mr. Long of the Privy Chamber is sick there, and Mr. Turwytt. I must be satisfied therefore with the lodgings at one Archer's house near Sir Brian Tuke's in Lothbury. There is no news to be written but such as you have already. Very anxious to return. Canterbury, 8 Nov.
I remember the words the King spoke to you at your last being here; and be not miscontent that I urge you "when you shall hear of these yon will utter them to no creature," for "Calais people are not all one men's childer." Signed.
P. 1. Add.
8 Nov. 781. John Husee to Lord Lisle.
R. O. Has applied to Sir Chr. Morys for my Lady's lodging. He is sorry he has no place for her, as Mr. Long of the Privy Chamber lieth sick there, and also Mr. Turwytt. She is content with the lodgings I have prepared for her. My lord Privy Seal says that you shall certainly have the Friars, and not Mr. Porter, and he Lopes to obtain your annuity for 400l. Now my Lady is here she may settle about Paynswick with him, and she can speak with my lord Admiral respecting Porchester and the forest. (fn. n9) He will have nothing to do with Soberton. and indeed it is meet only for the heir, for when the indentures come to light it will be seen that the interest is but during Bonham's wife's life, who is within age and has no children. I will deliver your letters to my lord Privy Seal and declare the contents. Bearer will give the news. Canter bur v. 8 Nov.
Hol., p. 1. Add.
8 Nov. 782. Barnwell Priory.
R. O.
Rymer xiv.
Surrender of the monastery with all its possessions in cos. Camb., Essex, Hunts.. Suff.. Norf., Midd., and elsewhere in England, Wales, and the marches thereof. 8 Nov. 30 Hen. VIII. Signed by John Badcoke, prior, and six others. [See Deputy Keeper's Eighth Report, App. ii. 9.]
Half Seal.
Enrolled [Cl. Roll, p. 1, Xo. 43 ] as acknowledged same day before Thos. Legh.LLD.
8 Nov. 783. Bishop Roland Lee to Cromwell.
R. O. This bearer, Mr. Pakyngton, having certain causes with your Lordship, I beg your favour for him. Remember to learn of him the naughty fashions that have been used, and partly yet be in North Wales, by the officers there, which he has redressed this year:— all because the sheriff is not removeable, but continually enforcing his purposes. If the other shires be like, they be utterly beggared; and yet many be evil allotted as Notheway, Gutrykes, and Hauwarden. 8 Nov., at Scroysbury.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Lord Privy Seal. Endd.
8 Nov. 784. Lord Lisle to Lady Lisle.
R. O. Sent her a letter by Hugh, master Porter's servant. Desires to have the two parks (fn. n10) by lease, which should be a good neighbour to Umberley, and we should be provided with beef and venison. She is to remember his lands in Cornwall and Devonshire held by the marquis of Exeter, that in default of payment they may enter upon them; "but where the intentors (indentures) be," unless at Subberton, does not know. Calais, 8 Nov. Signed.
P. 1. Add.
9 Nov. 785. Exeter Cathedral.
See Grants in November, No. 14.
[9 Nov.] (fn. n11) 786. Sir Thos. Wyatt to Henry VIII.
Add. MS.
5,498 f. G
bB. M.
Advertises receipt of instructions by Philip Hoby, who arrived here on the 25th inst. (ult.?) On All Saints' day, at night, we had access to the Emperor. Hoby will report at his coming his Majesty's thankful taking of your friendly admonishments, "his participating with us of the state and terms that he standeth in for the surety of his succession," and other occurrents. These men are something long in resolving, owing to Wyatt's sticking still for the state of Milan. Writes only to warn the King of the sum that is to be hoped for at their hands; "and this despatch I steal without their knowledge," not pressing Hoby's despatch too much, that your Highness may be the better prepared "for that that shall come from them after."
1. Ye shall not fail of ready conclusion for the duchess of Milan if you desire it. The particulars will not be much stricter or larger than you already know, and it will take effect the sooner if you defer the title of the elder sister (fn. n12) till after the conclusion of the principal, when it will come the more easily "if your Highness have fantasie thereunto," for the Emperor will always do his best. Has conferred on this with the bp. of London (Lunden), "which is a great wise man, and he that hath only followed the part of the said Duchess' father since his adversity, and he hath yet in Denmark great intelligence, and now goeth to the king of Romans. He maketh the thing easy, and is an earnest servant of his master's children and as good a papist as I; and lie sheweth me also that the elder sister hath no children. Of the assurance of her dower in Milan the queen of Hungary is already instructed to the bottom."
2. "For the Infant of Portingal I see none appearance of the state of Milan. The occasion is past and they seem to lament it." The reasons are the same Wyatt gave in his letters by Mr. Mason. They would gladly treat in that matter and lay Milan apart—not that I think the French will get it in any case, but the giving it to the Infant would provoke them, and "let this enterprise." And though Wyatt sticks stiffly for Milan, alleging promises, &c., yet he sees that if Henry would treat without it they would think little of 100.000 cr. dote. They do what they can to learn how large the dote shall be and Wyatt counterworks that by inquiring of the dower, "and that that shall be left to the succession." Yet if the Bang could give the Infant estate of 30,000 or 35,000 cr. a year in his realm, "me think they would make him an Englishman." If he could let them know on what points the King would treat, doubts not he could get Covos or Granvela, or at least the queen of Hungary, to come to Calais and meet the King, and the Infant also. Would like speedy instructions on these points.
Gives his own poor opinion. Does not see what Henry can gain by accepting Milan for his son-in-law, except "to set these princes in terms as they were afore." It will be a continual expense. The only disadvantage of leaving it is the loss of an opportunity of vexing the state of Rome. Yet after a little holding the Frenchmen in suspense the Emperor will be fain to give it to the Infant and then it will be less expensive to Henry. On the other point, sees no inconvenience in giving him an estate in England. In fact it will be a great advantage, for Henry will spend no money "neither for the one to marry nor the other;" also the revenues of the estate will be spent in England, and his own besides. Henry can easily bear the diminution of his own revenue; "and it shall be to your own and them that come of you whom your Majesty in your age shall see about you." And however Mary's succession be limited "they shall be natural born within your realm that shall come of her." Sees no great expense Henry will run in treating unless it happen "that for withholding of your pension they would treat for reciproque for aid of defence of Flanders, which me thinketh not much unreasonable." At Toledo.
Pp. 4. Later copy.
9 Nov. 787. Card. Pole to Marcus Monk of St. Justin.
Poli Epp.
n. 137.
Consolation received from his letters. Begs him to continue them, and so do Aloysius, Federicus. Lombardus, and Bernardinus. who are here with Pole. Salutes Bernardinus Presbyter, and Benedictus Ferrariensis. Rome, 9 Nov. 1538.
10 Nov. 788. London. White Frlars.
R. O.
Rymer xiv.
Surrender of the house and all its possessions in London and elsewhere in England, Wales, and the marches thereof. 10 Nov. 30 Hen. VIII. Signed by Bachelor John Gybbys, prior. Thos. Lemster, "sacre pagine bach.." and 11 others. [See Deputy Keeper's Eighth Report, App.II. 29.]
Good seal.
Enrolled [Cl. Roll, p. 2, No. 54] as acknowledged same day before Thos. Legh, LL.D.
10 Nov. 789. Leicester, Austin Friars.
R. O.
Rymer xiv.
Surrender (by Ric. Preston, prior, &c) of the house and all its possessions in co. Leic. and elsewhere in England. 10 Nov. 30 Hen. VIII. Signed by Ric. Preston, prior, Ric. Holmes, sub-prior, and two others. [See Deputy Keeper's Eighth Report, App. n. 27 ]
Seal injured.
Enrolled [Cl. Roll, p. 1, No. 50] as acknowledged, 13 Nov., before Thos. Katelyn and other the King's Commissioners.
10 Nov. 790. Leicester, Black Friars.
R. O.
Rymer xiv.
Surrender of the house with all its possessions in co. Leic. and elsewhere in England. 10 Nor. 30 Hen. VIII. Signed by Ralph Burrell, prior, S.T.D., Wm. Kopkyn, sub-prior, and eight others. [See Deputy Keeper's Eighth Report, App. n. 27.]
Seal good.
Enrolled [Cl. Roll,p. 1, No. 51] as acknowledged, 13 Nov., before Thos. Katelyn and other the King's Commissioners.
10 Nov. 791. Leicester, Grey Friars.
R. 0.
Rymer xiv.
Surrender of the house and all its possessions in co. Leic. and elsewhere in England. 10 Nov. 30 Hen. VIII. Signed by Wm. Gylys, warden, Simon Harmer, "lector," and five others. [See Deputy Keeper's Eighth Report, App. ii. 27.]
Seal good.
Enrolled [Cl. Roll, p. 1, No. 49] as acknowledged, 13 Nov., before Thos. Katelyn and other the King's Commissioners.
10 Nov. 792. W. Earl of Southampton to Lord Lisle.
R. O. I have received your letter, dated Calais, the 4th inst., desiring my leave to give a gunner's room of 6d. a day to Simon Licheladd. I should be glad to gratify you, but have no authority in this matter, and must leave it to your discretion. Westminster, 10 Nov.
Added in his own hand: "If then be ane theng in thys world that I may do yow plesser in, not offendeng my consehens and my deute to my pryns, call me thow falsest man lyfheng if I do it not for yow." Signed.
P.1. Add.: Lord Deputy of Calais.
10 Nov. 793. Charles du Broyard to Lord Lisle.
R. O. I have received your letter concerning the discharge of Mahieu Maes for selling horses to the French during the last war, saying that he only sold one to you and the rest to other Englishmen. However this may be, he transgressed the Emperor's orders not to export horses during the war. I beg you therefore not to write in his favour. Cassel, 10 Nov. xxxviii.
Hol., Fr., p. 1. Add. Under the signature is written by an English hand: Louys de Renke, vice bailly of Cassel.
10 Nov. 794. Aguilar to Charles V.
Add. MS.
f. 259.
B. M.
Wrote on the 2d. The agreement against the Turk was signed next day. Describes the coming of the duchess [of Florence] to Rome that day, her reception by the Pope, the ratification of her marriage contract, &c. The Pope would like it consummated about Christmas.
The Venetians will allow the Spaniards Corfu for winter quarters, if they cannot take Durazzo, or some other place from the enemy.
The French ambassador, M. de Griñan, who has just arrived, tells him the king of England sent to make an alliance with the French king for war against the Emperor; but Francis replied he had much desired the Emperor's amity and would keep it as long as he could, and he counselled him (Henry) to return to the obedience of the Church. Griñan has said the same to the Pope; whom he also assured that Francis would join the enterprise against the Turk on the expiration of his truce with Solyman a few months hence He, however, thought the house should first be swept clean, i.e., that the king of England and the Lutherans should first be brought back to the Faith. This remark being referred to afterwards in a conversation with the Pope, Aguilar said it was no doubt true, but the Turk was the more pressing danger.
Has, while writing, received the Emperor's letter of the 20th ult. about Lope de Hurtado and the Duchess, to which he has no more to say as the Emperor holds the former excused. The duke of Ferrara. Two Flemish ecclesiastical promotions. Card, of Naples and Card. Jacobacci.
The viceroy of Naples writes on the 9th that Barbarossa was in the Channel of Corfu, with the whole Turkish fleet, and had done damage at La Paraga and Chafalonia. had taken ships, &c. News from Venice just come that the Spaniards took Castclnuovo by assault on the 26th ult. Rome, 10 Nov. 1538.
P.S. Proposed marriage of the daughter of the duke of Castro and the son of M. de Vendòme. (fn. n13)
Spanish pp. 17. Modern copy from Simancas. [See Spanish Calendar, VI. i. No. 23.]


  • n1. Misread "Tollissopp" in Wright.
  • n2. Northampton.
  • n3. His servant John Bowes? See Vol. XI. Nos. 1 and 1157 (p. 467).
  • n4. See No. 658 note.
  • n5. The bear ward, William Parr.
  • n6. Certainly an error for November.
  • n7. See Part i., No. 435.
  • n8. Word apparently omitted.
  • n9. Qf Bere.
  • n10. Chedam Holt and Ockyngton in No. 798.
  • n11. See the King's letter in answer to this written on the 28 Nov.
  • n12. The Countess Palatine.
  • n13. Anthony, son of the late duke Charles, who vas really Duke himself at this time, his fisher laying died in March 1537.