Henry VIII: November 1538 11-15

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Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 13 Part 2, August-December 1538. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1893.

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November 1538 11-15

11 Nov. 795. Sir Geoffrey Pole.
R. O. Original record of the sixth and seventh examinations of Sir Geoffrey Pole. Signed by him. See No. 804.
Pp. 4. Mutilated and faded.
11 Nov. 796. Dame Constance Pole.
R. O. Examination of Dame Constance, wife of Sir Geoff. Pole, 11 Nov. Says that between [Whi]tsuntide andM[idsummer] last she received a [ring] for a token by Colyns, a priest belonging to lord [Mont]acute. whom, upon that token, she brought to her husband's closet where he burned five or six letters the contents of which she knows not. Colyns at the same time told her that her husband would [be] at Luftington the day following; but he was not, for both he and lord Montacute [went] together to London. She says also that since her husband's imprisonment, speaking with lord Montacute of how it was said he was in a frenzv and might utter rash things, he remarked, "It forceth not what a madman [speaketh]." Says also that at such times as lord Montacute came to Luftington he was accustomed to walk abroad, in ch[urch]es and other places adjoining, with her husband, but of their communications she knoweth nothing. She says also she has heard lord Montacute say he liked not the air of Warblington; also that lord Montacute and her husband "lying one time [at] night at Luftington, they both rode together on the m[orn]ing to a place called Raughey besides Horsham, in Sussex, where at that time lay the lord Stafford," but to what intent she knows not.
P. 1. Mutilated and illegible. Endd.: The lady Pole, Sir Geoffrey Pole's wife:—See another copy in No. 830 (2 iii.) from which some of the mutilations have been supplied.
11 Nov. 797. Hugh Holland.
R.O. The examination of Hugh Holland, taken 3 Nov. 30 Hen. VIII. Hugh Holland, late of the parish of Warblington, Hants, says that in the beginning of summer was three or four years, he, Sir Geoffrey Pole, and the vicar of Est Mayn, with their servants, went together into the Isle of Wight, and when at sea the vicar said to him, "This is a good weather to go to the seas. I would gladly go to Amyas. How sayest thou, Hugh? Dost thou know the way?" He said, "Yea," and the vicar said "Will you go with me?" Said he would if his master, Sir Geoffrey Pole, would give him leave.
"I warrant you he will," said the vicar; and after returning, Sir Geoff. Pole at his own house asked this examinate whether he would go with the vicar of Est Mayn over sea or not. Replied that he would go if he bade him. "Yes," said Sir Geoffrey, "I will desire you and [com]mand you too; for he will go to Amyas and I think to Paris, to study there, and will tarry at Paris and not return with you. But that is no matter to you: whether he tarry there or come again he shall honestly recompense you." On this, at the end of the summer examinate hired a French ship, and at Portsmouth shipped the said vicar with his servant, Henry Pyning, two horses, and 36l. in money, besides goods of his own, and landed at Newhaven. Then went in company with the vicar to Paris, and there left him in company of two English scholars named Reynolds and Bucklar. Being asked what communication he had with the vicar by the way, says the vicar told him he was glad he was over sea, for if he had tarried in England he feared he should have been put to death; for he considered the ordinances of England were against God's law. He said he had departed secretly, partly because my lady of Salisbury would not give him leave, partly because his mother, if she had known it, would have been much grieved. Being asked whether the said vicar at that going over wrote letters or sent messages to anyone in England, replies that he sent from Newhaven letters by a Frenchman to Mr. G. Pole, but examinate does not know the contents. After deponent's return he told the said Sir Geoffrey how he had brought the vicar to Paris; for which Sir Geoffrey thanked him and promised he should not lack while he lived. Also, after the fruits of the vicar's benefices (fn. n1) were sequestrated Sir Geoffrey sent for him and promised him 40s. to carry letters to him to Paris; which he did and brought others home from the said vicar to Sir William Paulet, then Comptroller, Dr. Stuarde, Chancellor to the bp. of Winchester, and to Sir Geoffrey Pole, and a little writing to the vicar's brother-in-law, John Fowell of Warbington (sic), to whom he delivered also all the other letters to be conveyed to those men they were sent to. After this, about Easter was two years, this examinate having business of his own at Antwerp, the said John Fowell went with him, and they both went together to Louvain, where the said vicar then was; but he carried no letters or message to or from him, and whether Fowell carried any he knows not. Fowell has since been twice over sea with the said vicar, sent on one occasion about this time twelve months by Mr. Pole, but for what cause he knows not, except that he said he was sent to learn whether the vicar had any letters to send to England. The vicar was at that time gone from Louvain—to cardinal Pole, as examinate thinks. Another time, Sir William Paulet sent the said Fowell to Louvain for a certificate from the University of his being there, to the intent that the sequestration might be released. Further, after Easter was twelve months, hearing that wheat sold well in Flanders, deponent loaded a ship with wheat to go thither, when Sir Geoff. Pole sent for him and said, "I hear say you intend to go into Flanders. [My] brother, I hear say, is in those parts. Will you [do] me an errand unto him?" Deponent agreed, and Sir Geoffrey said to him, "I pray you commend me to my brother and show him I would I were with him, and will come to him if he will have me; for show him the world in England waxeth all crooked, God's law is turned upso-down, abbeys and churches overthrown, and he is taken for a traitor; and I think they will cast down parish churches and all at the last. And because he shall trust you, show him this token, and show him also that Mr. Wilson and Powell be in the Tower yet, and show him further that there be sent from England daily to destroy him, and that much money would be given for his head, and that the lord Privy Seal said openly in the Court that he, speaking of the said Cardinal, should destroy himself well enough, and that Mr. Brian and Peter Meotes was sent into France to kill him with a hand-gun or otherwise as they should see best." He farther says that the day before he departed Sir Geoffrey sent for him and met with him upon Portsdown, and said, "How sayest thou, Hugh, if I go over with thee myself and see that good fellow? "meaning Iris brother the Cardinal Replied, "Nay, Sir. my ship is"fully loaded, and the mariners be not meet for this purpose." "Well," said Sir Geoffrey, "then I pray you remember what I have said unto you and fare you well." After this he passed the seas and sold his wheat at Nieuport, and from thence went to Cambray; and because cardinal Pole had gone thence to an abbey called Anno, 40 English miles beyond Cambray, he took his journey thither, where he met one Throkmarton, servant to the Cardinal, who asked if he came from England. Replied, Yes. "From the King?" asked Throkmarton. He answered, "No." "From my lady of Salisbury?" "No," said this examinate, "I came from Sir Geoffrey Pole." Throkmarton then went up into the abbey and told the Cardinal, who after mass sent for deponent into the church, where he delivered his message to him. The Cardinal then said, "And would my lord Privy Seal so fain kill me? "Well, I trust it shall not lie in his power. The King is not contented to bear me malice himself, but provoketh other against me, and hath written to the French king that he should not receive me as cardinal or legate; but yet I was received into Paris better than some men would." He said he knew that Mr. Brian and Peter Meotes had been sent for that purpose, but he trusted it should not lie in their powers. He asked examinate of those bishops in England who were named honest men. Answered that the bishops of London and Durham were so named. "Nay," said the Cardinal; "the bishop of London, I think, is an honest man, but the bishop of Durham is none." Being asked why he thought them honest, he said because he saw his master, Sir Geoffrey, often resorting to them to dinners and suppers. The Cardinal afterwards said, "Commend me to my lady my mother by the same token that she and I looking upon a wall togethers read this, Spes mea in Deo est, and desire her blessing for me. I trust she will be glad of mine also; and if I wist that she were of the opinion that other bee ther, mother as she is myn, I wold treade uppon h[er] with my feete. Commend me to my lord my brother by this token, In Domino confido, and to my brother Sir Geoffrey, and bid him meddle little and let all things alone." Had no other message to or from the said Cardinal to anyone. If any other thing come to his remembrance will not fail to open it. Being asked what message he had from any other about the said Cardinal, answers that Throkmarton desired his commendations to the lord Montacute by the token that they had communed together at his last being in England in a place which he now remembers not, and bade him be contented till his coming into England. Further, he says that on coming home he delivered all the messages to Sir Geoffrey Pole and showed nothing to lady Salisbury or lord Montacute, because Sir Geoffrey told him not to do so; for he said his brother, lord Montacute, was out of his mind, and would show all to the lord Privy Seal. He further says that since that time, especially before the King's coming into Sussex, Sir Geoffrey often pressed him to go over sea again and to take him with him, for he doubted not they should both live merrily there, and if he could but come to the bp. of Luke he should have money enough, and he trusted once to kiss the Pope's feet, and he made many large promises to this examinate, but he always refused to go. Signed: Hou Hallond.
Holland afterwards said that about 12 months past he showed lord Montacute that Sir Geoff. Pole was very desirous to go over sea, and he marvelled much what he meant by it. "Marry," said the lord Montacute, "I charge you meddle not with that in any case." Being asked on what occasion he so conversed with lord Montacute; says he brought a pair of knives from a servant of the Cardinal's to John Walker, which were delivered him at Antwerp; and Montacute hearing of it communed with him of it. On whichoccasion he showed him as above, but told him nothing of his communication with the Cardinal. Signed.
ii. Further deposition, 11 Nov.
Says he brought home letters from the vicar of Est Mayn containing a little "skroe," intimating that if Sir Geoffrey Pole (fn. n2) would convey any letters to him he might deliver them to one Monteys, servant with the Emperor's ambassador. He says also that because Sir Geoffrey, a little before the King's coming into Sussex, was very importunate with this examinate to go over sea, he showed it to Thos. Standish, servant to my lady of Salisbury, praying him to inform lord Montacute, telling Standish at the same time that he had been with cardinal Pole, and that the said Sir Geoffrey showed him at such times as he stirred this examinate to go over seas that lord Montacute would as fain be over as he. Signed.
Pp. 7. Faded and slightly mutilated.
R. O. 2. Copy of the preceding. Some passages underlined, with marginal notes in Ric. Pollard's hand.
Pp. 11. Mutilated.
R. O. 3. Further examination of Hugh Holland.
Hugh Holland, on further examination, says that when he came from beyond sea after having spoken with cardinal Poole, one Babham, steward to the lady of Salisbury, came to this examinate's house at Warblington and said 'What, Hugh! have you spoken with that traitor my Lady's son?' Answered 'Nay.' Then said Babham, 'You have spoken with some of his servants.' 'Yea,' said this examinate, 'I have spoken with Throkmerton.' 'Marry,' said Babham, 'I advise you keep that secret; it may hap to cost you your life else.' Signed.
P . 1. Endd. Holland's last examination.
R.O. 4. Articles against Hugh Holland.
He had communication with Sir Geoffrey Pole at Lurdyngton, Sussex, knowing the said Geoffrey and "the said" John Helyard to be traitors. At Sir Geoffrey's request he conveyed Helyard over sea and took money for doing so, and said afterwards to Sir Geoffrey "I have brought the vicar of Est Meane with his servant Henry Pynyng, two horses and 36l. in money to Paris." He promised Sir Geoffrey to do errands to his brother, cardinal Pole, being traitor beyond the sea, and show him the King's acts and secrets of the realm, and carried a message in these words, "Commend me to my brother the cardinal Pole, and show him I would I were with him, and I will come to him if he will have me. And show him the world in England waxeth all crooked, God's law is turned upso down," &c., warning him also that men were daily sent from England to destroy him. Afterwards, at Lurdyngton, Holland, received traitorous letters from Helyard and delivered them to Sir Geoffrey.
11 Nov. 798. Lord Lisle to [Lady Lisle].
R. O. "Mine own sweetheart," I never thought so long for you, for I never sleep after two of the clock. As to your saying that my lord Privy Seal is bent according to my promise to have Paynswike, I told him it was your jointure, and trusted you would be ruled by me. He will see that you are no loser, but I leave it to your discretion. You have also the covenants between me and Sir John Dudley, "and after our deceases to have 1,000l. for the performance of my will." As to your saying you might as well have staid at home but for George Roll's letter enclosed to me in Hussey's, I have never received it. I do not know why Sir Chr. Morris will not lodge you, but it is good to prove a man's friend. My receiver and yours will bring you money. I want none till you come, trusting you will bring 1,000l. with you. If you wish all my plate you shall have it. Send me a velvet night cap and a cloth cap. I never longed so much for any one, since I knew a woman. Calais, 11 Nov.
Remember Gynys if you hear any cause. Chedam Holt and Ockyngton will be two good neighbours for Umberle if ye can get them in fee farm."
Hol., p. 1.
11 Nov. 799. Card. Contarini to Card. Pole.
Poli Epp. ii.
Although the day after tomorrow we return to Rome, yet to describe our life and not let this servant of the Venetian ambassador, go without letters to you, I write these few lines. Four days ago before sundown, reached Raspatum, the weather being unpleasant with a north wind blowing. Next day we went together to a town which they say was a dwelling place of Lucullus; for Raspatum beyond doubt was his town. There are still traces of a tomb which the inhabitants call Licollum. Yesterday we came hither through the midst of the plain. By the way, our good old man (i.e., the Pope) took me apart and spoke to me de reformatione compositionum, saying he had read in the early morning a little tract which I had written (I have hitherto not mentioned it to you, because I almost was in despair and thought what had been done should rather have been hid than produced); and discussed the matter with me in such a Christian way that again I have conceived great hope that it will do good, and that the gates of Hell shall not prevail against the spirit of the Lord. If you think fit, tell the cardinal of Chieti and the master of the Sacred Palace, and let them keep the thing to themselves. "Vale, cum Priolo ac reliqua familia, in Domino." Ex Ostiis Tiberinis, 11 Nov. 1538.
800. [Sir Geoffrey Pole's Statement.]
R. O. "And fyrst. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Devell f . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . fall off h. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . kyng off . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Arthur. . . . . . . . . . . . c. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . off . arance. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . put a innocent to dethe.
"Item, he sayd that the King's Grace . . . . . . . that h[e wou]ld gyve all England. . . . . . . . . . . kepyng the trew y . . . . . . . . . . . . . the lord Monta[gue]. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . promyse worshipfully . . . . . . . . xx . . . . . . he forsoke hys wyff and made hys i[ssue that h] e had by her bastard [and] so yn h[er ly]ff tyme the Kyng marryd a harlot [and] a heretyke [and] kyllyd his good wyff with unkindness."
Item, he sayd he helped his brother Reynold to depart the realm that he might not aid the King's purpose in forsaking his wife.
"Item, he sayd that all princes cristen hathe the Kyng yn mockage for so handelvng the mattar that when he had spent great somis off money [and] saw trowth ayenst. . . . . . . . . . . . Cyon off the chyrc[h w]hyche . . . . . . . . . he have done with losse cost . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .well worthy off more. . . . . . . . . . . .e so nawghty a woman. . . . . . . .kyng but was the. . . . . . . . . . . body [and] the disci. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . man [and] fynall. . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . reall . . . . . subvertyng [G]ods law [and] [m]ans law contrary to all ryght and [e]quyte.
"[Item, he s]ayd it was not mattar of concyence b. . . . . . . . . he love to forsake . . . ew wyff [and] to. . . . . . . . . . . . . ne to forsake a. . . . . . . . . . . . . [and] ta. . . . . . . . . . . . heretyk.
"Item, he sayd it w . . . ot . r . . ryly. . . . . . to tro . the to extynct the po[pe's powe]re but [wilfu]llnes to have ill lyberty to do [what] hym lyst.
"Item, he sayd that afor th[e Ky]ngs my[nd] was set upon devorse off the good quene [and] not [ca]tched yn the snare off unlawfull love with the lady Ane, the Kyng cowld byd well ynowghe the auctoryte off the Pope thowgh he myslykyd hys abuses.
"Item, he seyd because the Pope wold not grawnt to the incestuose mariage the Kyng forsoke hys auctority with all hys good uses [and] abuses.
"Item, he sayd that al wyse vertuos[e [and] g]ood men [and] faythfull ware ayenst the [King's] purposes [both] off hys unlawfull mariage [and] al[so the] forsaky[ng] off the auctoryte off the Pope.
"Item, he sayd that knaves and heretycks and smatterers off lerny[ng] ware the Kyngs assisters in bothe thes unlawfull enterprises.
"Item, he seyd the [sam]e knaves [de]vyse [by l]aw to kyll [and] slaye as m[any] as wol. . . . . . . . [a]yen saye the Kyngs [pnr]pose. . . . . yg . hat. . . . . . . . hat they cowld [nei]ther by reason nor equyte.
"Item, he sayd that comen knowen kn[aves g]even to all mysheff, settyng at nowght bothe Go[d and D]evyll, open rybawlds, [w]ar avanced [and] good m[en and ver]tuose m[en]. . . . . . . . choppyng off hedds.
"Item, [he sayd th]e Turke was more ch. . . . . . . h . . . . su. . . . . [t]hen the Kyng beyng a cristen prince.
"Item, h[e sa]yd that the Kyng and Cromwell ware bo [the] off on nature, [and] what bee am of the nobyltye off the hole realme they cared not so they might lyve themselffs at ther owne pleasor.
"Item, he seyd that thoughe the Kyng gloryed with the tytylle to be Supreme Hede next God, yet he had a sore lege that no pore man wold be glad off, and that he shold not lyve long for all his auctoryte next God.
"Item, he shewed me at Bockmar that he dremyd the Kyng was dede.
"And now," quoth he, "we shall see some rufflyng [and] byd Mr. Cromwell good deane with all hys devyses.
"Item, he say[d thou]ghe we have a prince yet th . . . begyld for the Kyng [and] hys [whole i]ssue s[tan]d accursyd.
"Item, he sayd when. . . . . . . . . . . was taken and all thyn[gs] peasyd, thowghe the Kyng thow[ght him]sclff then sewre yet ther wold come, anoth[er]. . . . .that wold p. . . . . . [and] . . . . . yse cownsellors (?).
"Item, . . . . . . . . . had. . . . . . manly sto. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . they were now. . . . . [confo]rmable to hys wyll. . . . . .d on day leve the [realm] alone [and] lyve beyond the seas, saying wher be y[ou then?].
"[Item, he sayd] that hym selff thowg[ht] that all the R[ealm]. . . . . . . . . . . well apayd to be o. . . . . . . . . . . a . . . . . .
"I[tem, he sayd t]he Kyngs Grace told h . . . . . . . . . . . . . . of Scotts whyche kyllyd not only. . . . . . . . [p]oysonyd the quene of Scotts but also all her . . . . blod that war not gylte therin. And so, 'quod he,' 'the Kyng to be revengyd off Reynold, I fere, wyll kyll us all.'
"Item, hewyshed hym selffand me with the byshopp off Luke, for he was a ryght honest man [and] a great frend of Reynolds. 'Mary,' quod I, 'and vow fere syche jeopardy, lett us be walkyng hens quyckly.'
"Item, he sayd that yet we shold do more, and here whe[n] the tyme sholde come, what wt powre and frendship, nor it is not the pluckyng downe off thes knaves that wyll help the mattar; we must pluk downe the hede, and that I was but a fole to thynke otherwyse; but for all hys wysdom [I] beshrew hys hed (?) for hys so meanyng and so saying."
In Sir Geoffrey Pole's hand, pp. 4. Very much mutilated and injured by damp.
12 Nov. 801. Sir Edward Nevill
R. O. Original of the examination of Sir Edw. Nevell, 7th and 12th Nov. 30 Hen. VEIL See No. 804 iv.
P . 1. Much mutilated. Endd.
12 Nov. 802. The Marchioness of Exeter.
R. O. Examination of Constance Bontayn [12] Nov.
Says that about three (fn. n3) years past the lady Marquis, lying at Kew, rode to the Nun at Canterbury, and this examinate was attired like the mistress by the way, and the said lady Marquis like the servant, attending and waiting upon them at the same time Jasper Horsey, William Da . . ch, one Bone, and a horsekeeper. She saith also that the lady Marquis never showed her the cause of her going, nother what co[mmunication] she had with the said nun, saving that the said lady Marquis told this examinate that the said nun had showed her that she, the said nun, should [co]me to a very shameful death. She saith also that after the lady Marquis was come from Canterbury again the said nun came to Horsley and there lay in a trance; but what she spake at any time during her abode there she knoweth not, nor she knoweth not, as she sayeth, whether the lord Marquis were then at Horsley or not; and she sayeth that my lady hath sent often times letters and received letters from the lord Montacute, but this examinate knoweth nothing of the contents of the said letters, nor who was the bringer or carrier of them, saving she thinketh a servant of my lord Montacute was wont to be the messenger between them for that purpose." She says also she has seen the Marquis use great familiarity with the lord Montacute, and thinks he reckoned him his assured friend. Also she heard my lady Marquis say that nothing grieved her husband so much in all his life as the putting out of the Privy Chamber. (fn. n4) Also she heard the lady Marquis say that men of noble blood were put out and the King taketh in other at his pleasure. She says also she heard it spoken in my lord Marquis' house and elsewhere "that the said nun should say that the King should flee the realm one day." She says also on better remembrance that the lord Marquis was at Horsley when the nun was there, but she never heard him speak anything touching the nun, nor of the lord Montacute, for whenever he conversed with his wife or any other, this examinate and others always departed.
Mutilated, p. 1. Compared with copy in No. 830 (2 ii.).
12 Nov. 803. George Croftes.
R. O. Examination of George Croftes, clerk, resident of Chichester Cathedral, 12 Nov.
Has sundry times communed, both at his own house at Chichester and at Sir Geoffrey Pole's house, (fn. n5) with the said Sir Geoffrey, .touching the proceedings of this realm, sometimes when Sir Geoffrey has come from the Parliaments. On these occasions he expressed his dislike of many proceedings, such as the abolition of the bp. of Rome's authority and payment of first fruits, which at this present time and of late he has liked well enough. He has said to many persons that he thought the statute for payment of first fruits "a very on[cha]ritable law." Heard Sir Geoffrey say that Hugh Holland had been over seas with the vicar of Est Mayn. Lord Delaware, at his coming from the arraignment "to" (of) the lord Darcy, told him he trusted the lord Darcy should not be put to death, for the lord Privy Seal had promised the Lords at his arraignment that he would do the best in his power that he should neither lose life nor goods. Does not remember whether he told this to Sir Geoffrey. Remembers lord Delaware told him that after the judgment given on Darcy, he and lord Cobham and others were with the King at Hampton Court. Says also that Sir Geoffrey Pole told him, last summer, he thinks, that he had been with the marquis of Exeter and lain with him all night, and his old acquaintance Mr. Stephens commended him to this examinate. Had heard Sir Geoffrey say that he had been at lord Huntingdon's with his brother, where he had been a hunting and made merry. Has often talked with Sir Geoffrey about the insurrection. Sir Geoffrey told him when coming from London at Whitsuntide last, that the King was good lord to the bp. of London, and that the said Bishop should neither lose his office nor goods; and that at the same time Sir Geoffrey, meeting with a serjeant of the town, blamed him for speaking against the said Bishop. Says also that when the Bishop was in trouble for the praemunire, Sir Geoffrey told him he was very sorry for him because he had been his good lord, and given him the keeping of a park, and lent him money.
Pp. 2. Slightly mutilated and in part illegible.
12 Nov. 804. Sir Geoffrey Pole and the Marchioness of Exeter.
R. O. "The first examination" of Sir Geoffrey Pole, taken 26 (?) Oct 30 Henry VIII. [as in No. 695 (2)].
(2.) The second examination of the said Sir Geoffrey Pole, taken 2 Nov. anno predicto.
All he said at his former examination is true, and he "knowledgeth the examination, being at this time wholly read unto him, to be true in every part thereof." When his brother the Cardinal was at an abbey beside Cambray, (fn. n6) Hugh Holland, then retaining to him, asked him if he would anything to his said brother. Replied he would write nothing. "No marry!" said Hugh "Nor I will carry no letters." Said then, "Commend me unto him, and show him what you hear here, and how the rumour is that he shall be slain." Hugh reported on his return that the Cardinal had said he marvelled that the King, when he could not be revenged on him himself, "went about to set others, as the French king, upon him, and that the French king had sent him letters which the King had sent him for that purpose." The Cardinal had said if mother, brother, or any oth[er of his] kin were of the same opinion as the King and others of this realm, he would tread upon them with his feet. Knows of no letters or money being sent to the Cardinal by his mother, brother, or any other. Examined who first showed him the King [intende]d anything against the Cardinal; "Mrs. Da[rrell showed] him thereof" and afterwards lord Montacute at his own house told him the same Sent word by Hugh Holland that he would come over sea if the Cardinal desired it; but got the reply "that both he and the lord Montacute [his] brother should tarry in England and hold up yea and nay [re, for] he would do well enough." Hugh reported that the Cardinal asked about the bishops in England and prayed God amend them
Doctor Sterkey "showed him that he had written certain letters and after spoken with Mr. Wriothesley, and that in communication Mr. Wriothesley said that this examinate and other of his family must not be made co[kneyes], and after the said Sterkey said further that the lord Pr[ivy] Seall, if the King war nott of a good nature, for one Pole's [sake] would destroy all Poles," and "that the bishops of Durham and Chichester read [togethers] the cardinal Pole's book."
(3.) Third examination of the same, taken 3 Nov.
Hugh Holland further reported that the Cardinal desired to be commended to lord Montacute and examinate, and hoped to come to England himself, and bade him remind lord Montacute of their communication at the Cardinal's departure. Throckmerton also desired Hugh to remind lord Montacute of their communication at his last being in England, and say that when he would come over sea Throckmorton would come himself and fetch him. When examinate waited at Court lord Montacute regarded him little, and said they were flatterers that followed the Court and none served the King but knaves. After he was forbidden the Court lord Montacute regarded him more and showed him copies of two letters which he thinks Throckmerton brought, one to the King and one to the lord Privy Seal. Once, in examinate's house, lord Montacute wished they were both over sea with the bp. of Luke, for this world would one day come to stripes, and then their being here might be "occasion of more favour to be showed in the realm." After Mrs. Darell showed him of the displeasure intended to the Cardinal he went to lord Montacute's house and found him in his garden. Said, "I hear that our brother beyond the sea shall be slain." "No," said lord Montacute," "he is escaped, I have letters." Thinks these letters were either from Mrs. Darell or the lady Marquis of Exeter. Saw letters from the lady Marquis to lord Montacute "wherein was contained that communication be[ing in the] (fn. n7) Supplied from No. 831 ii Council [o]f * the lord Montacute, the lord Marquis her [husband]* offered himself to be bound body for body for him."
Asked Dr. Sterkey "whow [the bishops] of Duresrae and Chichester" liked the book written by the Cardinal when they read it. He replied that they said the matter of the book "was very clerkly handled, and that it could not be better handled, saving it was written very ve[hement]ly." Showed lord Montacute all that Hugh reported from the Cardinal, but did not tell who was the messenger.
(4.) Fourth examination taken 5 November.
Examined where and when he opened to lord Montacute the message sent by Hugh Holland, says it was a little before the King's coming to Sussex last summer, in riding between lord De Laware's house and Warbyngton. Examined of the conferences between him and Croftes of Chichester; told Croftes all the message from the Cardinal. Croftes said, "Well it is he (the Cardinal) that shall restore the Church again." Croftes said the lord Privy Seal "promised the lords at the arraignment of lord Darcy, that if they would cast him he should neither lose life, nor goods." Because the King, when at Stansted, came not to my Lady their mother, lord Montacute said, "Well, [le]t it pass, we shall thank them one day. This world will turn up so down, and I fear me we shall have no lack b[ut] of honest men." Lord Monacute told examinate, at the raffle when Holland was taken, that he had burned many letters at his house called Bukmar, beside Henley upon Temmes. Lord Montacute showed him within an arrow shot of Hounsloe the letters from my lady marquis of Exeter: they were all in her own hand. The lord Montacute showed him this summer that the lord Privy Seal had sent Mr. Richard Crumwell to the marquis of Exeter "to be frank in opening certain things "; but the lord Marquis replied he would open nothing to the hindrance of his friend;another time the lord Privy Seal had sent to the lord Marquis to his house in London "concerning a certain berwarde." Asked lord Montacute the cause of a certain strangeness he had noticed of late between lord Montacute and the Marquis; Montacute said, "Marry ! My lord Marquis hath willed so, because there is noted a certain suspicion between us." There were frequent letters between the lady Marquis and lord Montacute.
(5.) Fifth examination, taken 7 Nov.
Lord Montacute, in conversation with him, often wished they were over sea with the bp. of Luke; he did so at Chiphames, "in a certain morn [ing since the] departing of his brother, the Cardinal, from Flanders." Was not trusted by the lady Marquis after it was perceived the King favoured him; the lord [Montacute] told him this. "The lord Marquis, a certain time at Hors[ley], at which time he gave the lord Privy Seal a summer coat and a wood knife, winking upon this examinate, said, 'Peace! knaves rule about the King '; and holding [up] and shaking his fist, said, ' I trust to give them a buffet one day.' "Lord Montacute used to say a time would come, and he feared they would lack nothing but honest men. Once met the lord Marquis riding from London to his house at Horsley and examinate's servant came at the same time with letters from London. Turned back with the lord Marquis, who said he had been compelled to leave his constableship of Windsor and take abbey lands instead. "What !" said examinate, "be you come to this point to take abbey lands now?" "Yea," said he," good enough for a time; they must have all again one day." Once asked lord Montacute why he had no more mind to Warbyngton, and he replied," I would rather dwell in the West parts, my lord marquis of Exeter is strong there, and I am sorry the lord Aburgavenney is dead, for if he were alive he were able to make 10,000 men." Lord Montague said that when the lord Marquis was put out of the Privy Chamber, the putting out of others at the same time was only done to colour the putting out of the lord Marquis. One Colens, a [priest], belonging to the lord Montacute, showed examinate that one Morgan, servant also of lord Montacute, was to have gone over sea to kill Peter Meotes or whoever should kill cardinal Pole. Mrs. Darell said that one of the French king's Privy Chamber, very friendly with Sir Francis Bryan, warned the Cardinal that they intended to slay him. When examinate was banished the Court lord Montacute said to him, "Geotfrey, God loveth us well that will not suffer us to be amongst them; for none rule about the Court but knaves." At that time "lying in bed with his said brother," the latter said "I dreamed now that the King is dead." Two days after he said in his great chamber at Bockmar, "The King is not dead, but he will one day die suddenly; his leg will kill him and then we shall have jol[ly] stirring." After last insurrection lord Montacute said in his own ground at Luftington, "Twishe ! Geoffrey, thou hast no cast with [thee; the lord] Darcye played the fool; he went about to p[luck away the] Council. He should first have begun with [the head; but I beshrew] them for leaving off so soon."
(6.) Sixth examination, taken 9 and 11 Nov.
When the [King] and the French king last met beyond sea, examinate was there in disguise and present at the meeting, but never went abroad except at night, keeping all day in the chamber of his brother the lord Montacute, who said he thought the French king would deceive the King Since then lord Montacute was never pleased with the King's doings. The lord marquis of Exeter knew that examinate was then in Calais. Lord Montacute told him last summer, riding between Halfnakyd and Chichester never to open anything if he should be examined, for if he opened one all must needs come out. Says also he was told by his wife that lord Montacute asked her how he (examinate) did since his coming to the Tower adding that he had heard that he was mad [and that it] "forceth not what a mad man saith." Also that at the [King's] being beyond the seas of which he spake before, t[he lord Mon]t acute sent this examinate to the princess Dowager to [tell] her that nothing was done at that meeting touching the marriage with the lady Anne, and that the King had done his best but the French king would not assent to it. Also that the earl of Huntingdon and lord Montacute at divers Parliaments, communing together, "would say they [were but] knaves and heretics that gave over, and that such as did [agree to] things there did the same for fear, an 1 did always murmur and grudge against things determined there. He saith also that at the last insurrection the lord Montacute promised this examinate harness for himself and 10 more," Montacute being then at Bisham. Examinate asked him afterwards where the harness was. He replied, In a corner, "but that forced not; he knew it should not need at that time." He has heard Montacute say that Reynold (meaning the Cardinal his brother) should do good one day. Says also that Hierome Raglande had been very familiar with Montacute, and known much of his mind. That Thos. Nanfant also knew much, and was wont to go often in errands (?) for him to the lord Marquis and others, and that Montacute put the said Nanfant to Sir John Wallop in France to learn the French tongue. Also at his coming from Calais, of which he spake before, he came by the lady Salisbury his mother, then in Kent, and brought letters to her from lord Montacute her son. Also that Montacute lately lamented very much the sickness of the lady Marquis, "saying that his stomach was such that if the wisdom of my Lady were not, he would not be able to bear this world, and feared nothing [in the lord] Marquis but that he would die before the time sh[ould come]."Says also that when at Calais he heard [the lord Monta]cute say that the French king "was hardier ma[n] th[an the] King our master" and that when one Kend[al] (fn. n7) This must be William Kendal, concerning whose conduct the King sent down some messengers to Cornwall to make inquiries in 1531. See the Paper of Instructions in Archseolugia, XXII. 24. The document is not dated, but is clearly connected with the charge brought against "the young Marquis" (Exeter, not Dorset as surmised in Vol. V. p. 161) of assembling the people of Cornwall, in the summer of 1531 and others were in the Tower he heard lord Montacute say that it was pity the lord Marquis was so handled, and that he had a just suit depending in the law for that matter.
(7.) The seventh examination of the said Sir Geoffrey, taken 12 Nov.
Says he has heard Sir Edward Nevell many times deprave the King, saying that his Highness was a beast and worse than a beast. Also that lord Montacute was never willing that this examinate should serve the King, but was content that he should sa[rve t]he lady Dowager. The lord Monacute also advised this examinate not to go from his mistress, and after, when this examinate asked him to help him into the King's service, he would not but he would have the marquis of Exeter's advice therein. Getting no comfort of them, made suit himself to the King, when the King accepted him, at which lord Montacute was not content. Lord Montacute told him also the King would go so far that all the world would mislike him, and that the King one day told the lords "that he [would] go from them one day, and where be you then? "and the lord Montacute said, "If he will serve us so, we shall be happily rid." Lord Montacute has confessed to him that he never loved the King from childhood, and that King Henry VII. had no affection nor fancy unto him. He said also "that the King would be out of his wits [on]e day, for when he came to his chamber he would look angerly, and after fall to fighting." He says also that he told Croftes of Chichester of Hugh Holland's going to cardinal Pole, and Croftes advised him to go over with him, saying it was that cardinal that should do good one day, and gave examinate 20 nobles towards his charges, saying "You may be able to do good another day" Two days after Croftes wrote to him that he had a vision in the night that he should do better here than if he went over sea, and examinate paid him the 20 nobles back. He says also that last summer lord Montacute and this examinate rode together to lord Stafford's h[ouse] (fn. n8), when lord Stafford showed him he was afraid to converse with lord Montacute. "I like him not; he dare speak so largely." Lord Stafford told him also, "Ye foll[ow] so much the lord Montacute that [he will b]e your undoing one day." He says also that at the King's last [be]ing in Cowdrey, Sir Edw. Nevell said to this examinate, "[Master] Pole, let us not be seen to speak togethers; we be had in suspicion; but it forceth not, we shall do well enough one day." Sir Edw. Nevell another time told him at the Court, when the King was at Westminster, "God's blood ! I am made a fool amongst them, but I laugh [and] make merry to drive forth the time. The King keepeth a sort [of] knaves here that we dare nother look nor speak, and [if I were ] able to live, I would rather live any life in the wo[rld than] tarry in the Privy Chamber."
II. Examination of the lord Montacute [7] Nov. 30 Hen. VIII. Copy of No. 772.
III. The three examinations of the lady Marquis, taken 6, 9, and 12 Nov. 30 Hen. VIII. See abstract, No. 765. Mutilated.
IV. Examination of Sir Edw. Nevell, 7 Nov. 30 Hen. VIII.
Confesses that he told the marquis of Exeter that a bearward of his was taken in the West country, and advised him to look to it, as it was much against his honour; that the Marquis told him "that the lord Privy Seal had sent to him touching the be[arward] of whom this examinate had spoken to him before and th[at he] had made answer again that he would not open any[thing to the] hurt of his friend, and that he had made an [excuse to the] lord Privy Seal for the not opening [of it, and th]at he was satisfied with that excuse."
(2.) Second examination, 12 Nov.
"After the K[ing's Highness had] exhorted him to leave the company of the [lord marquis] of Exeter, he showed the same to the said lo[rd Marquis, declaring unto him that the lord Privy Seal w[as present when] the King so exhorted him, and saying to the said lord Marquis 'I may no longer keep you company'; to whom the said lord Marquis answered, ' I pray our Lord be with you.' And more he will not confess."
Pp. 18., with dockets on two blank leaves.
805. Sir Geoffrey Pole and Sir Edward Nevill.
R.O List of interrogatories headed "Sir Geoffrey Pole." (fn. n9) (1) Where and when lord Montacute willed you to open nothing, for if you opened one thing all must come out. (2) What you commoned of at that time. (3) Where you said you were disguised at the meeting of the Kings and Montacute said the French king would deceive the King, did he say wherein? (4) Whether he declared what intelligence he had therein, and by whom he had it. (5) What Montacute intended to do if the French king deceived the King. (6) What conference, touching the things by you opened, you hare had with lord Hastings. (7) Do you know of Montague having' had any conference therein with Hastings or the Master of the Horse or Sir John Walloppe? (8) Have you been present at any? (9) What have you heard of any meeting between them?
P . 1. Faded.
R. O. 2. Copy of the second examination of Sir Edward Nevell. See No. 804 iv. ii. First sentence of the seventh examination of Sir Geoffrey Pole. See No. 804 (7).
In Cromwell's hand, p. 1. Injured by damp and slightly mutilated.
R. O. 3. Extract from the seventh examination of Sir Geoffrey Pole commencing after the first sentence where Cromwell's note of it § 2 ii. leaves off, and ending, "he would look angerly and so fall to fighting." Signed: Geof[fr]ey Pole.
P . 1. Mutilated.
12 Nov. 806. London, Austin Friars.
R. O.
xiv. 609.
Surrender of the house and all its possessions in cos. Midd., Essex, Suss., and elsewhere in England, Wales, and the marches thereof. 12 Nov. 30 Hen. VIII. Signed by Thos. Hamond, prior, and 12 others, the last being John Stokes, doctor. [See Deputy Keeper's Eighth Report, App. ii. 28.]
Seal much injured.
Enrolled [Cl. Roll, p. 2. No. 53] as acknowledged same day before Thos. Legh, LL.D.
12 NOV. 807. London, Crossed Friars.
R. O.
xiv. 610.
Surrender (by the prior and convent) of the house and all its possessions in the city of London and elswhere in England, Wales, and the marches thereof. 12 Nov. 30 Hen. VIII. Signed by Raphael Tornar (fn. n10) and 5 others. [See Deputy Keeper's Eighth Report, App. ii. 2S.].
Seal broken
Enrolled [Cl. Roll, p. 2, No. 65] as acknowledged same day before Ric. Layton, elk., one of the clerks of Chancery.
12 Nov. 808. London, Grey Friars.
R. O.
xiv. 609.
Surrender of the monastery and all its possessions in London and elsewhere in England, Wales, and the marches thereof. 12 Nov. 30 Hen. VIII. Signed by Thos. Chapman, warden, S.T.D., Ric. Bopkyns, junior, Wm. Watts, bachelor, Ric. Qwyckhope, doctor, John Thoroall, doctor, John Mathew, Wm. Cateryke, bachelor, John Parker, "seuex "and 19 others, among them Roderic Boto, doctor. [See Deputy Keeper's Eighth Report, App. ii. 2S.]
Seal broken.
Enrolled [Cl. Roll,p. 2, No. 55] as acknowledged same day before Ric. Layton and Thos. Legh, doctors of laws.
12 Nov. 809. London, Black Friars.
R. O.
xiv. 609.
Surrender of Ihe house and all its possessions in the city of London and elsewhere in England, Wales, and the marches thereof. 12 Nov. 30 Hen. VIII. Signed by J. bp. of Rochester, prior commendatory, and 16 others. [See Deputy Keeper's Eighth Report, App. ii. 28.]
Seal much injured.
Enrolled [Cl. Roll, p 2, No. 64] as acknowledged same day before Ric. Layton, one of the clerks of Chancery.
R. O. 2. Obits or chauntries kept within the Black Friars, London, by perpetual foundation of King Henry VII. to be paid, by Westminster Abbey, 31. 6s. 8d. Paid by the wardens of the Fishmongers of London for an obit, and 3 priests daily singing for the soul of Lord Fannoppe, 26l. 13s. 4d. For two priests singing first and last mass, and for a schoolmaster of grammar paid by the Goldsmiths, 13l. 6s. 8d. A priest daily singing for the soul of Thomas Rogers paid by the Vintners, 3l. 6s. 8d.
Obits not perpetual (amounts of each given):—24 Feb. of Nic. Halswell; 25 Feb. of Thos Rogers, paid by the Vintners; 6 April of Robert and Agnes Morton; four times a year, i.e. 13 April, 11 Aug., 1 Sept., and 15 Sept. of Lady Elizabeth Scrope, paid by Sir John Harberd, canon of St. Stephen's, Westminster; 27 April, of Ric. Rookesby and lady Jane his wife, paid by the Master of the Savoy; 3 May, of-Gerard Danett; 28 May, of Elizabeth Cosyn; 6 June, of John Kirby; 2 Sept. of Mr. Medley; 2 Oct., of Mr. Parker, priest; 11 Nov., of Sir Thomas Parre, knight; 1 Dec, of Lady Maude Parre.
P . 1.
12 Nov. 810. W. [Earl of] Southampton to Cromwell.
R. O. This morning, as the bp. of Elye and he were mounting for their journey, received Cromwell's letters by the bearer. Will see the contents accomplished. "At my poor house of Cowdrey,"Tuesday morning, 12 Nov. Signed.
P . 1. Add.: Lord Privy Seal.
12 Nov. 811. Lord Leonard Grey to Cromwell.
R.O. The land has not been quieter for years, as the bearer Wm. Sayntloo can show, for whom he begs favour. Begs Cromwell to remember his own suit to repair to the King. Maynooth castle, 12 Nov. Signed.
P . I. Add.: Lord Privy Seal.
Nov. 812. Nicholas [Bishop] of Waterford to Cromwell.
R. O. Has lands adjoining the Western Geraldines which, if the King would resume and furnish with good captains, might serve to subdue the "protervity" of the lord Barre, lord Roche, Gerald Fitz John, and Gerald of Desmond's sons. Would take in exchange the spiritualties of monasteries to be suppressed in his diocese, as St. Katherine's beside Waterford, Mochel, the Cahyr, and Surro. The King might likewise order the temporal lands of the bishopric of Femes, whose lands, lying amongst the Irish rebels and around the King's castle of Femes, are necessary for the King. Refers to William Saintloo, who has done high services. Offers falcons. Waterford, ------(blank) Nov.
Hol., pp. 2. Add.: Lord Privy Seal.
12 Nov.
Nero B. vi.
B. M.
813. Thomas Theabold to Cromwell.
Has written three or four times without hearing whether his letters have been received, or if so whether his pains have been acceptable. Presumes the best, however, in every doubt and trusts Cromwell's incomparable wisdom will not despise his good will. The news from Germany is that the Turk has taken one or two of the strongest cities in Transylvania, and the Vivade has compounded with him for 300,000 ducats to withdraw his army, and to grant him truce till Easter. The Turk has accordingly returned to Constantinople; but if it had been towards summer insteacf of winter "I reckon no mean sum of money should have redeemed his enterprise,"for he had been in great hope of Buda, the only defence of Hungary. George Margrave of Brandenburgh, and the city of Noremberge, who have long been at variance for possession of a certain country, had come ro open defiance, and the former had taken prisoners certain citizens of Noremberse. but the Emperor has commanded both parties to make no business and doubtless the Landgrave and the Elector of Saxony "do yntermyxt therein] to agree them."Concerning Gueldres and the meeting of the French kiug and my lady Mary, che Regent of Flanders, in Picardy, you are doubtless better informed than we. Andrea Doria has won Castellum Noram from the Turk, where he found many great guns and instruments of war bearing "the arms and marks of the Arrogusians, (fn. n11) who [be?] always fret by reason they are tributors of both unto the Torke and the Eraperor also : but by reason of this [aid] given unto the Torke which was detected in this Castellam Novum, Andreas Dorias demandeth of them iij (?) hundred] and fifty thousand ducats, or else he will invade them as envy (enemies)."Hears both from Iraiians and Frenchmen that the Emperor is raisin? all the power he can in Spain to enter the Mediterranean this spring, and will have 100 Flemish ships to convey his victuals, &c, to the army to ihese parts against the Turk. The Venetians and others here "of their [super]stition and impiety are wonderoubly (sic) moved and mad against the abolition of the idols in England,"and talk of it maliciously. "At this present one Carolus Capellius, a Venetian, [who] for their State hath been ambassador in England in France, and with Verdynand (Ferdinand) in Hungary, was here to ta[ke] Mer (fn. n12) for a season by reason of a catarrh or which he is sick, into whose knowledge and acquaintance I d[in]sinuate myself and came to his house the day before his departure. invited of him by the means of o[ne] of bis familiars, a very great papist: ad insaniam. which doth judge me also to be of his error, or [else] he would not have brought me there." Capellius received him with ail gentleness and ucked him, when he came to Venice, to visit him. He is very superstitios; and much devoted to the Pope's authority, and was very vehement against "these most Christian and good reformations in England." He thinks the Council will be a failure because the Pope and Cardinals do not earnestly seek it, "wherewith he seemed to be moved. Also we talked about the duke of Urbyn's death, which died about three weeks agone at Venice, whose lands he reckoneth the Pope will take from his heirs, and had done y[t] by his lifetime but for the intercession of the Venetians, because he was their general capyt[an] by land." A learned man here in Pa[dua] a great friend of Po.e. Sadolet, and Contarini, who came from Venice[3] or 4 days ago informs Theabold that the Pope had sent for all the learned Cardinals to come to Rome in haste this winter (and indeed they be gone) to consult on matters of great weight, especially to determine a censure against England, "and that should be done chiefly [by] two Cardinals' judgments, of the which Contarenus should be one; the other's name I have forgot."
We hear also that the Emperor's bastard daughter was la[tely] received at Rome with great pomp, which is an argument that the marriage between her and the Pope's son (grandson) will proceed. A learned man here says he hears from Bonanye that the Emperor means to make Signor Cosmian di Medicis duke of Florence. who is to have one of Ferdinand's daughters in marriage; also that the Pope goes about to get his sou made duke of Bonony by consent of the Emperor and the French king. "Here is a holy and a conscionable protector of the seat of Home, which is so spiritually and godly afiectioned toward it, and so abhorring from all carnal motions that be is not afraid or ashamed openly in the face of all the world to take old father Peter's coat away to clothe Paul's young son, and so to bring Bonony ad successores Pauli, because, peradventure, they fear Peter shall have no mo heirs by reason his rights be so exactly examined and well known!" He, no doubt, feels that he may alienate his dominions with as much conscience as his predecessors usurped them; or perhaps he followed the example of our abbots and priors in England, who, when they saw their hypocrisy, idolatry, and superstition disclosed by the light of the Gospel, gave pensions under their chapter seals to make friends. The Emperor and the French king care only for his temporal power, but he sees they will strip him of that, and so he will provide for the succession of his carnal family. By these marriages these men hope to make themselves strong against the Turk and other princes, and the Venetians dare not break with them, as the Frenchmen, the Pope, and the Emperor are now united.
Friar Pato (Peto) is at Venice and will probably stay there or here this winter. Hopes to speak with him there next week, when he will also resort to Carolus Capellius again. Proposes hereafter to lie mostly in Venice, if it be Cromwell's pleasure, where he hopes to learn much without its being known that he favours the truth; "for among my countrymen I do not utterly profess the truth, nother to no other, except it be to certain Germans with whom I had familiarity in their country, which here dare not utter their minds concerning the Gospel, but secretly to them they know and trust." The General Council was again indicted here in Padua within these ten days, to begin at Vyncence the beginning of this next May. No man here believes it will take effect, considering the war against the Turk. The place, moreover, is not indifferent, and the Pope and most of the Cardinals "do intend [it]," but use this pretence to put their malicious enterprises into execution, and perhaps declare the Evangelicals rebels to the Church if they refuse to appear.
Would have sent some verses made in Antwerp and set up in Our Lady church against the King, for embracing the truth, but supposes Cromwell has received them from those parts ere this. Padwaye, the morrow of St. Martin's day.
Hol., pp. 2, close written. Add.: Lord Privy Seal. Endd.
12 Nov. 814. Charles V. to Don Lope de Soria.
Add. MS.
28,590, f. 268.
B. M.
Next year's enterprise against the Turk, the Armada of the League, and prince Doria. Grieved to learn the death of the duke of Urbino. A gentleman sent by Francis with M. de Pelu (Peloux) recommends that the enterprise be deferred; but though Francis will not enter the League he will aid it with 30,000 cr. a month for five or six months. The French are satisfied with the Emperor's answer about the marriages of the prince of Spain and the French king's daughter, and of the duke of Orleans and the Infanta or rhe King of the Romans' daughter
Spanish, pp. 14. Headed: Minute, Toledo, 12 Nov. 1538. Modern copy from Simancas.
13 Nov. 815. Sir Harry Capell to Sir Wm. Powlett. (fn. n13)
R. O. Since last writing, heard of a priest named Sir Ric. Holonde, at Yatton, in Somerset, who wrought by "nygromansy."Sends a letter which he sent to lord Braye by Wm. Stephyns of Brockley, in the same county; a certificate of further knowledge about him, and his tools and other things Asks him to do about it as he thinks best, and to have the certificate rewritten if he intends to show it further. Obley, 13 Nov. Signed.
P . 1. Add.. To his singular good uncle, etc.
13 Nov. 816. Thos. Averet to Lord Lisle.
R.O. On Lisle's last being with my Lord his master in London, at the writer's request he promised the next vacancy of 6d. wages in Calais to Wm. Vaughan. the bearer. Puts him in mind of his promise. London, 13 Nov.
Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd.: Of none emportancie. (fn. n14)
817. The Countess of Salisbury.
[Information against her by Gervase Tyndall otherwise named Clifton].
* * * oftes wold be no . . . . . . be none therabowtes [of the new ler]ny[n]ge as the callyt but that my lady scholde by and [by dismiss] them under same other coler and pretens for the . . . . . Ester was a twelmonth x or xij off my lord Montygu [se]rvantes went to Cychester to be confessyd, with the which thyng [my] lady was not a Iytyll dyscontent. Otf thys thynge he sayd [h]e had good wyttnes.
"[I]f my lord] wyll take the payns to examane stratly and severally Mr. Newtone and Mr. NycolLsune, schaplayns to my lady, and specyally Newton, I [dowt] (fn. n15) "hym" erased and "yowe" interlined in these two places. thynk suerlybe schall come to the knollyge off [much fals spakyng a monge them, for thes be the ryngleders [of] my ladys error all together, as I well persaved be the wysperyng off the holle hows all moste, when the cam to the surgan hows, for I never came with yn her gates as long as I lay at Warblyngtun. nor never was bedone ons to drynke."
Ib. f. S3. ". . . was Rycharde Ayer at surgery my lady off Salsbery . . . [w]ch dwelythe at Warblyngtun, he came at certayne tym [unto] me and sayd that he had ben resunynge with the curat off [Ha]vonde, which he sayd and aflermyd was skasly the Kyngys [fr]end, but he wolde not tell the caws why. Also he accusyd [t]he curat of Warblyngtun for revelynge of hys confessone; which. as [he] atfermyd, askte hym forgevunes afterward off hys knes. Note with [st] ondynge he sayd ther wer a company off prestes [in] my lady's Lowse. which dyd her muche harme and kepte her [firom] the trewe knolyche of God's Word. Howe it chansyd I [can]e not tell, but thes Rychard sayd un to me, Ye muste departe, [J]eruas Tyndel, my lady hys note contente with me that . . yowe ar her, for as muche as sche ys credabully ynfor[me]d that yowe ar all of the newe lernynge. Then I [an]swerd and sayd I wolde not departe, notber for lord [nor] lady, tyll I were letter amendyd. Then he sayd with[in] a day or ij after that my lady had commayndyd hym [to send]e away all hys patyentes frome hys hows. Then I askyd [hym] ernystly what schold be the caws, and he sayd so that [I wo]!de kepyt closse he wolde tell me; which I promysyd [to] hym. Then he sayd the prestes yn my ladys kold not. . . . . yn with me yn any wys. Then I answerd and sayd, I pray [you] brenge me to communycatyon with sume off them. Then [he] sayd the wer suche closse ki.aves that the wold nether resune [net]her be resand with. Fordermor
(fn. n16) S3b. he sayd that yff yt wern[ot] Howsse which he dewe[lleth] . . . also he Lobord . . . . . . . . . . he wolde netulle a sorte off them that the schold s . . . . . . . . . Then I sayd, Kolde yowe so doe. Wher un[to he answerd] and sayd that ther was falsse packyng a[mong them], which when I ynstantly desyerd to knoe, he sayd [to me], Yff I wer as wel aquantyd with my lord Prevysele as [he] hys I wold tell hym a tale that wher worth t[ell]ylge. Then I sayd yif be wold so dooe I wolde g . . . . . yowe (fn. n17) and brynge yowe (fn. n18) to a kynsmane off myn whoss [name] ys Gerom Lyn, other els to Master Moryson, which was [sum] tym petycanom with me in my lordes Cardynall Colly[ge at] Oxforde, which bothe I affermyd wold brynge by[m to] my lordes gras and caws hym to be harde; ye, and moro[ver] that my lord wold geve hym gret thankes yn th[at] behalff, and do mor for hym then ever my lady w[old]. Then he answerde and sayd very secratly theis w[ords] : Tyndall, her ys a knave which dewelythe by, wos n[ame ys] He we Holand, and he begenyths nowe off late [to act] the marchant mane and the broker, for he go[yth over] the see and convays letters to Master Helyar ower [parson] her off Warblyntune (which I thynke he affermy[d to be at] Orlyans), and he playthe the knave off thother [hand] and convaythe letters to Master Poole the Cardy[nall, and] all the secretes off the rein off Ynglond ys k[nowyn to the] bychope off Rome as well as th . . . . . wer her.
f. 84. Then I sayd, Doe yowe knoe thes for a cer[ten] (fn. n19) . . . . . . . . . . is send for o . . . . . . . was at [han] (fn. n20) . . . . . . . . coome to a certain man hows whos nam ys Westmel (?) . . . . . . synger sayd that the caws was that I schold have a [pupil o]r ij to ynstructyn the Latyn tonge, but yt was for no [ot]her caws but to confond me, for as moche as the prestes had [re]portyd that I was an Observant Frere, for the had gotune [an] obstynate frer amonge them, which was send for for the moste . . . . . [t]o put me to lake and schame; which thynge when I persavyd [I] declaryd my selff to be no suche parsne and defyde them all which are frers. When I had so done, the curat, Sir Wyllyam Wantlatyn was most bese (busy), and askyd why many [persons] callyd me Tyndall and sume Clyftun; and I answerd and sayd that my uncull, Doctor Clyftun, which gave me exybition yn Oxford nammyd me after that nam, and thys thynge Master Moresun kane wyttnes, that many callyd me so yn Oxford after hym, and at the last I troe I callyd thys which schold be a prest knave and bade hym remember Rychard Ayers wordes, which were that he scholde scassly be the Kyngis frend. And when I sayd soe, by and by yn a gret fewme one [B]owcher the constabull, which was present, answerd and sayd, [I] wold thowe scholdes knoyt that I and xx moe wyll coome [u]p and testyfy for hym, and yt was mery yn thes contry [be] for suche felowys came, which fyndythe suche fawtes with ower honestes prestes. Then I spake and sayd, Master Constabull, what mene yowe to be so hasty? Yt had been yower parte tofor
f. 84b. to have askyd whether I myself had knone any ‡ almost . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I were wake sprytyd and sayd morove[r] . . . . . . . . hard thes words as paraventure the schold, th . . . . . . . what he menythe be thes words, y[t was mery] yn ower contry befor suche felowys camynhyt, which fy[ndythe] suche faytes, and sayd Haunschyer was a quiat contry . . the sumthynge a frayd off thes wordes, yn as muche a[s. .] rehersyd them the next day follyng went strei[ght to] Sir Geffera Pooll, which send for me and askyd why I [did] say thes wordes. Also he bad me spek yff I kneue a[ny] thynge, for he sayd he was the Kynge justyce and . . frynd, and I declaryd thes matter befor rehersyd and sayd tbe mygt say so welynoug for yt ys truth.
f. 85. "Testes Johanes Ansard : N. Westme . . (fn. n21) "Rycbard Ayer sayd that ther colde be nothynge be done, nether s . . . yn all [the country] wer he dwellyd bout my Lady dyd knoe yt, all thow [yt wer] never so secret yn mens hartes for the curat dyd reuell . . . . . . . sub sigillo secreto as the papystes sae the may doe to my Lady, and the acordynge to ther owthe wysp[drd] yn my Ladvs eer, saynge that the myght so doe, for as muche . . . . . for the sole helthe off the partys yn that my Lady was off g[ood mind] and wold se secret reformatyon and feyn as thowe sche dyd [know] be sume other mens; and thys was for no other caus as . . . . . . . . (fn. n22). . . . . . . . . e Master Tyndail, yff yowe chanse to have commu[nicacion with a] certayn mane whom my Lady pe owte oft sevvys . . . . lernyng. he wyll tell more then thys. whos name . . . . . crese maker, with whome when I went to Hauond from [Richa]rd Avers hows which was at Warblyntune, I mett with and I . . rd hys a quantans for as moche as I parsavyd that he favord [gre]tly also Godes word. Then he sayd the same to me, and so after [said] unto me ther aI yntendyd to teche a gramer scoll. . . . . . man with me off the scryptur, but we agred to well hare . . . . . e dysputatyon. Then he sayd unto me, Have yowe good a [quant]ans yn my lord Prevysel hows? To whom I answred and sayd [that I] hade. Then he sayd Ye may doe a good ded to pootforthe suche [things] as I cold ynfonne yowe off. Then I sayd, [Have] yowe nonaquantans. and ar the prynce gras sarvand? Then he [sayd, Y]es, I am aqnantyd with Master Cottnne, whome I have movyd [in t]hys matter, and whate concell he gave hym I do not well re[mem]ber boot as farforthe as my memory wyll sarave me, Master [Cottune] movyd hyme to lettyt a lone and besenote (busy not) hym self with such [thyngees for]other men schold do yt welynowhe yff the mychgt parsa[ve them to] be trewethus. I askyd hym what the matter [was]. Then he sayd, Tyndall. whatt a thynge ys thys? [My la]dy off Salsberys consell schall command oponly yn [the Kyng]es [name that no mane so hardy which be her tennantes schall occopy [books of] the Newe Testament yn Englych or any other new [books] which the Kynges Hynes hathe pryrelyged; which he affennyd [he had] good wyttnes off. Mor over he sayd that the parsune
f. S5b (fn. n23) off Warblyngtnn wh[ose name] ys Helyar ass[ured hym] that the Byschope off Rome had as m[any friends] yn England as ever he had, not withstandy[ng the new] acte, savynge yn on poynte; morover perse . . . . . . . he was snpremhed over all the chorch o[ff Christ] : which opynyon, when thes forsayd Peter;ayd yt [was] tresone, the parsnnne fled to Portamothe, and ther wa[s] vj days yn Henry Bykyls hows, tyllsuchtym as he was c[um] yn to a schep which went yn to Franse, which he sayd w[as a] thynge opunde to my lord Pryvysel, and so hys goodes [was taken], but Sir Geffera Pooll and Master Pallet mayd suc[h] scheft that the matter was clokyd and hys good[es re]stauryd again; but not with standynge he sayd that y[ff he] myght talke with lord Pievy Sell he wold so d[iscorer] the matter that the schold no lenger blynd [hym] yn hyt as the had done. Mor over he sayd that the cu[rate] of Warblyngtune left owt the dedaratyone off pa[rpos] when he red the Kyng's book. Also the b . . . . sayd that thys Hewe Holand and Henry Bykyls and . . . . Standyche. ciarke off the kechyn to my lady, wher [such] crafty felows that nay lord schold never get nothy[ng of] them, except he had ther concell and went [more] wyslv to worke.
"Hec sunt que a Richardo Aver et Petro Wy . . . audivi, sed precipue a Petro textore illo qui co . . pollicitns est testaturum se que audivit, a . . . . . prorsu recusavit testem se futurum, sed Pe[trus dicit] alios etiam nonnnllos potuLsse se afferre qui h . . . ."
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13 Nov. 818. The Cocynxs of Salisbury.
R. O. Answer of the countess of Salisbury to certain interrogatories ministered to her bv my lord Admiral and the bp. of Ely, 12 & 13 Nov. 30 Henry VIII.
1. Being asked whether cardinal Pools, before bis going beyond seas, opened his mind to her, saying he liked not the proceedings of this realm and for that reason would go beyond sea, and left her these words for a token, spes mea, &c.; she replies that he never opened his mind to her touching any statutes or proceedings of the King and it was sore against her mind that ever he went abroad "again." And that she takes the King to witness, for she desired his Grace that her son might no more go over sea; neither was there any privy token between her and him at his departure; but the words spes mea, &c, is a common word written in the windows and other places of the house. She knew none other but that the King had sent him to Paris upon his business.
2. Examined whether the vicar of Est Maigne at his departure opened his mind to her after like sort ; replies that he never did about his going beyond sea, but brought home her children and said that within a sevennight or a fortnight he would return again, [as she] supposed "he would have done . . . . . . . made her privy of anything what he . . . . . . . ne. axed her for token, letter or message [unto her] son."
3. Examined whether [at any ti]me she received any letters or messages from [the sai]d Poole by Th[r]ogmerton, "and that she and her . . . . . should hold up yea and nay and speak little ":—Denies utterly that she ever received any letters or message by Throgmerton or any other concerning Reginald Poole except one from the King, of which she has a copy
4. As to the sending over of Hugh Holland, says it was not by her consent or with her knowledge.
5. Asked whether Sir Geoffrey Poole ever told her that the King went about to cause Sir Reynold Poole to be slain; says he did, and she prayed God heartily to change the King's mind. And being examined who told her that the Cardinal had escaped that danger, she says both her sons; and for motherly pity she could not but rejoice.
6. Asked whether she [knew] that Peter Meotas was gone over the sea [for] killing her son, and that both her sons would go to the Cardinal. Denies that she ever heard that Peter Meotas should so do, and prays God she may be torn in pieces if ever she heard such a thing of her sons.
7. Asked whether the Cardinal desired her blessing and thought she would [be gljad of his blessing again, putting her in remembrance of the communication had at his departing, and th[at s]he and her sons should hold up yea and [nay] and that they should tarry in England still, &c. Replies that she never heard any such thing, either by word of mouth or letters.
8. Examined whether in their communications all three together they have much commended the doings of the Cardin;il, trusting he should be Pope one day and come into England again:—Denies that they ever had such conversation, but has often wished to see him again in England with the King's favour, though he were but a poor parish priest.
9. Examined of certain communications they had together, wherein they lamented the King's proceedings and wished for a change : she utterly denies it. "And where it was objected that she liked not the plucking d[own] of the abbeys and houses of religion [she] saith [true] it was she was sorry for . . . . . . of the houses where her ancestors lay [though she] much lamented the living of the . . . . . which was the cause of th . . . . . . . thereof."
10. As to the [going o]ver of Morgan she utterly denies that she heard thereof. Also denies she ever heard lord Montacute say that none ruled about the King but knaves.
11. Examined whether when they heard that Hugh Holland was taken, all three by one consent burned their letters, whether received from Sir Reynold Poole or my lord of Exeter and his wife:—Replies that she herself never burned any letter concerning the King. Has burned private men's letters of small importance, but there never was such agreement among them and she never heard of any that her sons had burned. Denies she ever received letters or messages from my lord of Exeter or his wife prejudicial to the King or his realm. Denies also that she ever heard her son say that this world was turned upside down, or that it would come to stripes, or that she ever heard her son wish or look for the King's death or "mention any stirring or morion or thiiiir like days of her life."
12 Asked whet ar she heard the lord Montacate say [he h]ad rather dwell in the West parts [than] at Warblington, and that he lamented the death of lord Aburgevvenv because he was able to make 10,000 men; sars she never heard such things. nor that she heard him say that my ; lord marquis of Exeter was his assured] friend and would take such party [as] he took.
13. Examined of the lord Montacute's saying. "beshrewing the lord Darcy because he lett so soon at the last insurrection, and saying he played the fool going about to pluck away the [Cou]us[el] for he should have gone abouts to pluck away the head":—Answers upon her damnation," she never heard such words spoken.
14. "Item, [examin]ed of the lord Montacute h[is] savins. [be]cause the King came not to Warblington, We shall thank them one day, and a time will come, &c." Never heard her son say so. and thinks him very much belied. Denies also that ever there was any asreement to conceal anything among them.
15. Says also she [never heard] any little inkling of any such decei[t as] our master should have been deceived by [the] French king; but says her son Sir GeotFrey being in an Inn of Court, went over sea to the interview at Guisnes without her knowledge or that of lord Montacute till he came thither, and if lord Montacute had not made him return he would have gone in w[arf]ayre (:).
16. Being examined further u[nder] whom; says she knows not.
17. As to the article that lord Montague and Sir Geoffrey should wish themselves to be over seas sometime with their brother, sometime with the bp. of Luke. "she denieth utterly her baptism and prayeth that she never see God in th.e face if ever she heard any such words" As to the last article, "that this world must needs change and come to stripes, and at that time thr[eir] being in England should be occasion of m[o]re favour to be showed to others within this realm, with great oaths swearing she saith she never heard no such words."
18. Examined of Hierome and Nanfant; says they came upon Saturday both to her house, and Naniant went away upon Sunday, and Hierome on Monday, and the cause of their coming was for the . . . . . . and the tone for seeing his wie[f. and s]he commanded them to depart, for [she woul]d not suffer them tarry; and Jerome [we]nt into Buckinghamshire to my lord Montacute's house : and as for the other she cannot tell whither." Signed.
19. "Item (fn. n24) she [said] that communing of her son Geoffrey with the Con[tro]ller of her house he said to her;Take heed of h[im], Madame,for I fear me. Madame, one da[y he] will do you a displeasure,' 'Why, what [displeasure?' saith she. 'Peradventure,' said h[e, 's]lyppe away.' 'Nay.' Nay' said she. he will not be so unhappy.'
"Item, she said, when she spake with the King his Grace he showed her how her son had written against him. Alas . . . thy what grief is this to me to see him whom . . . . . . . . set up to be so ungracious and unhappy. And up[on th]is when her son Montague came home to her . . . . she said to him What hath the King shown me of [ my] son? Alas, son, said she, what a child have I [in] him:' And then my lord Montogue consay[led he]r to declare him us a traitor to their servan[ts], that they might so report him when they came in to their countries. And so she called her servants and declared unto them accordingly. She took her said son for a traitor and for no son, and that she would never take him otherwise." Signed.
20. Protestation that all she has said is true. Signed.
21. "At Cowdrey :—Item, she being exami[ned touchin]g the copy of the letter found in her gentilw[oman's chest] saith and confesseth that her steward wrote [the sa]me letter to my lord Montacute by her consent, [bu]t not since he was in the Tower, but she cau[se]d it to be written since Sir Geoffrey was taken." Signed.
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819. The Countess of Salisbury's Papers.
R. O. Draft bill of Margaret countess of Salisbury for process in the Star Chamber against Henry Frowyk and John Basset, for cutting down her woods in Shenley, Herts.
Corrected draft, pp. 2.
R. O 2. The title of the countess of Sarum to the manor of Wyke in cos. Midd., and Essex. John Wolston and Ric. Philyp, being seised of the manor as of fee, gave it to Sir Ric. Nevell and Alice his wife, countess of Sarum, and the heirs of the said Alice, on whose decease it descended to lady Margaret, now countess of Salisbury,' as cousin and heir of the said Alice, i.e. sister of Edward, s. of Isabel, d. of Richard, s. and h. of the said Alice.
ii. Title of Marg. countess of Sarum to the lordship of Ware, Herts.
Thomas earl of Kent, being seised of the said lordship as cousin and heir to John lord Wake, i e,s. of Joan d. of Margaret d. of the said John lord Wake, had issue Thomas, Edmund, Alienor, Joan, Margaret, Alienor, and Elizabeth; and died leaving Thomas his s. and h.. who died without issue, and the lordship descended to his brother Edmund, on whose death his lands descended to the said Alienor, Joan, Marg., Alienor and Eliz., his sisters and heirs. The said first named Alienor was married to the earl of Marche; the said Joan, duchess of York, was married to Sir Wm. Wylugthby; the said Margaret to John earl of Somerset; the said second Alienor to Thomas earl of Salisbury, and the said Eliz. to Sir John Nev-11. On partition among them of the lands of the said Edmund the lordship of Ware, [a court called the court of the honour of Broune held yearly at Hertford, the manor of Eston juxta Colyweston, Northt., the pastures of Ledryngham, Calfrost, Weldryngham, and Thornestoneflatt, Yorks.] (fn. n25) were allotted to the said Thomas earl of Salisbury and Alienor his wife. On the death of the said Thomas and Alienor the lordship descended to Edward late earl of Salisbury, cousin and h. of the said Alienor, i.e., s. of Isabell, sister to Anne d. of Ric. s. of Alice d. and h. to the said Alienor countess of Sarum. The said Edward was attainted of high treason. The said lady Margaret [now] (fn. n26) countess of Salisbury, as his sister and heir, was restored in blood by Statute 5 Hen. VIII. with restitution of lands; so the King ought not to have the said lordship of Ware, as heir to the right excellent princess Margaret, late countess of Richmond. Further, the said countess saith the late countess of Richmond and Derby had no estate in the said lordship but for term of her life, as appears by the letters patent thereof by our late King Henry VII.
Paper roll of 3 sheets written on one side only.
3. Abstract of Henry VIII.'s title to the manors of Ware and Canforde.
Proving that Margaret, now countess of Salisbury, who was in 5 Henry VIII. restored to the lands of her brother, has no claim upon Ware and Canford. Pp. 11.
R. O. 4. Notes of grants, Acts of Parliament, and inquisitions bearing upon the title to the castles and manors of Trombrige (sic), Alderbury, Ambresbury, and Winterhorue, Wilts Canford, Dors., and Hengstrege and Charleton, Somers.
Commencing at the 11 Edw. III. with grant of the said lands to William Monte Acoto and ending in 5 Hen. VIII. with the restoration of Margaret, "now countess of Sarum," to the [Ossessions of her brother Edward earl of Warwick
R. O. 5. Drift indenture witnessing that Wm. Grene of Brnton, Dors., has paid Margaret counter of Sarum 15 years' rent of the manor of Bekelej (or Bokeley) which he acknowledges to hold from her
Corrected draft, p. 1.
13 Nov. 820. The State Prisoners.
R. O. Mrs. Couper, wife to Kobert Gouper of London, goldsmith, confessed the following sayings, 12 Nov. 30 Hen. VIII
(I .) That one———(blank) Eleys. yeoman of the horse to the marquis of Exeter, oftentimes resorting to her hust'and's honse for making and garnishment or horse harness, was wolt to say to her, "What do you with these new books of here-y in English? Well ! Well! There will a day come that will pay for all!" She asked what day that should be. He replied, "The day will come there shall be no more wood spent upon yon heretics, but you will be tied together, sacked, and thrown into Thames." She asked who would handle them so, and on hb answering, "The bp. of London," she said, "We care not fcr the bishop of London, thanked be God and our Gracious King; but would to God ruy Lord your master would read the Gospel in English, and suffer his servants to do the same." On this Eleys, swearing a great oath, said. "If my Lord know any of his servants either to have any of these books in English. or to read any of the same they shall neverdo him any longer service." At this communication were present one——Gates and other of my Lord's servants.
ii. Another copy of the preceding.
III . Information by Robert Couper of Lomlon, goldsmith, of the conversation that took place between------Baynard, a servant of the King's within the Tower, and ------Goodwyn. in a boat which he entered at Paul's Wharf on the 13 Nov. 30 Hen. VIII.:— Baynard said "We have great pain in watching of these naughty men lately brought into the Tower. Would to God every man would know their duties to God and their Prince." On this Couper asked him whether Sir Geoffrey Poole were dead or alive, and what he heard of that naughty fellow Poole his brother beyond sea. Baynard answered that he had been lately made bishop of Rome -i by composition for a colour." "How know you that" ? said Couper. "I have heard it,"said Baynard, "of great men." Couper asked "Of whom"? and he said "Of some of my lord Privy Seal's house." Then said Goodwen. "I have heard as much as this comes to, for the Council doth know this thing well enough." "I pray you,"said Couper, "How do you know they know it? " "By the ambassadors and others" said Goodwyn. "Then."said Baynsrd, "There was one in our house prisoner who being delivered by the King's favour and sent to the said Poole beyond sea, to show unto him the King's pleasure, doth yet there remain, and now is one of the greatest in favour with him." Couper asked his name, and Baynard replied "Frogmerton."
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13 Nov. 821 Touching Lord Delaware.
R. O. Sir Henry Owen, examined 13 Nov., says that he has many times heard lord Delaware openly say that he liked not this world of plucking down abbeys and that he has openly spoken against sundry statutes passed by Parliament, and that a time would come when God would punish this plucking down of abbeys and the reading of these new English books. He has known much familiarity to have been between the marquis of Exeter and the lord De la Warr, and many [presents] to have been "sent from the one to thother, and th[at Crofte the] prist hathe kept in his howse att [the first departing] of the vi[car of Estm[ay]n certayn servants [of] his how . . he sayeth also thatt ther is, and [hath been ve]ry [ moche fam]eliarite between the said Croft[e, Colyns chapleyn to] the lorde [Mo]ntacute and Steph[en, chaplen to the lor]de Marques [of Exeter].
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13 Nov. 822. George Croftes.
R. O. "xiij die Novembris anno prædicto."
"The said Crofte, upon further examination, sayeth that at the time of the last insurrection th[is examin]att rode to Sir Geoffrey Poole's house to Luftington, and there [found the] said Sir Geoffrey taking a muster of men to go with [him Northwards; at which] time he showed this examinat, I must go Northwards, but I will shift [for one] well enough if they come to fighting, I [w]yll save [one]. This examinat saying to him again, Well, if you int[end] so you were best to have a good horse under you. [He saith also that] at the same time, because Sir Henry Owen had spoken [many words] openly against this examinat, of the which, as soon as they came to the knowledge [of the] lord Delawarre he made this examinat privy thereof, and counselled this examinat to go with such strength as he was able to make [to the] Court and to offer his service to the King; whereupon this ex[aminat came to] the Court and there abode to the end was made of that business, [and] after returned home again, showing the lord Delaware all such news and all the [whole] process as he had heard, as well touching the causes of the beginning, as [means] of the ending of, the said insurrection. And being examined what answer the said lord Delaware made thereunto, and what he had heard him speak at any time touching the said insurrection, answereth, Nothing, saving that he heard the lord Delaware lament the said insurrection and rejoice when the same was ended."
Says also that when the Act of Uses was passed lord Delaware showed him of it, saying it was a very sore Act, and that he grudged much at it. When the rumour came to England that Reynold Pole would take upon him to be cardinal, Colyns the priest showed this examinat that the lady of Salisbury and the lord Montacute had written to the said Reynold not to do so, and he had answered, little esteeming them or any other in that matter _ also that both the letters and the answer were shown to the Council. Colyns thought those letters well and godly written and allowed them very well. Sir Geoffrey Pole also showed him that a bishop who had been French ambassador in England and afterwards at Rome, noted much the behaviour of card. Pole, and wrote a very long letter to the French ambassador in England in commendation of him, and that there was no such man living as he was, and that all men were but shadows in comparison with him; "and that he was ever ready to excuse the King in all things, saying that in such things as were done in England against the s[ee o]f Rome the fault was only in the Council and none [in the King], and that the said Sir Geoffrey showed this examinat that the [Fren]she ambassador showed those letters to the King's Highness, and that the King, hearing them, said it was much pity that such a man as the said Cardinal was should be blinded go that he could not see the truth. He sayeth also that a little before Whitsuntide was twelvemonths, because one Hoberden in communication at this examinat's table, had said that the cardinal Poole, which was then in France, should be brought into England by violence before Whitsunday, this examinat at the same Whitsun holidays meeting with Sir Geoffrey, asked him whether he heard any tidings how his brother the Cardinal did. The said Sir Geoffrey asking again "Wherefore ask you? 'Marry,' said this examinat, "I think he is taken; for one Iluberden showed me he should be in England against his will by this time." 'No,'said the said Sir Geoffrey, 'he is out of danger of the King and French king too. Hugh Hollande hath been with him and brought me word from him.' And being examined whether the said Sir Geoffrey at any time opened any message sent to him or to any other from the said Cardinal or not, answereth, None to his remembrance. He sayeth also that at such time as the said Sir Geoffrey told him that he would flee the realm, of which he spake before, he said also he would have had his son with him."
Pp. 2, mutilated and in parts illegible. Words lost supplied from No. 829 ii.
R. O. 2. Original record of the continuation of the above as given in No. 829 ii., commencing "He saith also [that he] hath heard it spoken four or five times but of whom he knoweth not,"&c, and ending "and never opened the same to any other person touching the confederacy."Signed: Per me Georgium Crofte
P . 1, mutilated and faded.
13 Nov. 823. Doncaster, White Friars.
R. O. Surrender of the house and all its possessions in England, Wales, and Ireland, and the marches thereof. 13 Nov. 1538, 30 Hen. VIII. Signed by Edw. Stubbis, prior, and 7 others. [See Deputy Keeper's Eighth Report, App. ii. 18.]
Not sealed.
13 Nov. 824. Hussey's Lands.
R. O. Receipt given by Sir Wm. Parr to Dr. Hall, receiver of attainted lands in Lincolnshire, for 6l., received by the hand of Giles Wykeley, Parr's servant, for his whole year's fee of the stewardship of lord Hussey's lands. Dated 13 Nov. 30 Henry VIII
P . 1. Signed and sealed. Endd : Lord Parr.
13 Nov. 825. [Weiothesley] to Sir Thos. Wyat.
Cott. App. l
B. M.
Ellis 2d. S. ii.
Writes hastily by this post, who is waiting for the letter, that on Monday evening the 4th, the marquis of Exeter and lord Montague were committed to the Tower. The King, though he had passed over many accusations made by their own domestics, was constrained to arrest them to defeat their malice both against his person and the surety of my lord Prince. The accusations against them are of great importance, and proved by substantial witnesses; yet the King loves them so well, and is so loth to proceed against them, that it is doubted what he will do. Bruxells, (fn. n27) 13 Nov.
In Wriothesley's hand, p.1. At the head, now slightly mutilated and the first word lost, appears to have been written : [Mr] Wiatt.
14 Nov. 826. George Crofte
R. O. Original record of the third examination of George Crofte [taken 14 Nov.] (fn. n28) asin No. 829 iii.
Signed in three places : Per me Georgium Crofte. The first of these signatures comes before the passage about lord Delaware dismissing servants, and the second before the passage (illegible here from mutilation), about his having counselled lord Delaware to persevere in the old opinions; these having been separate additions.
Mutilated and illegible in places, pp. 2.
14 Nov. 827. Examinations.
R. O. 1. Of John Collins
His third examination. Dated at the head : 14 Nov.
The said Collins further says that he has heard lord Montacute much praise the learning of cardinal Pole, and say that he trus[ted] he should do good one day. Lord Montacute further said that the French king had played an honest part with the said Cardinal, and that lord Montacute had much lamented this world, and feared that there should be a lack of honest men, "and this, this examinat sayeth he hath heard in the great chamber at Bockmar, and walking in the garden there, since that the sard cardinal Poole was last in France, and shortly after his departing from thence. He [saye]th also that he hath heard the said lord Monta[cute wa]ling in a garden at Buckmar about the escaping of the cardinal Poole, say that knaves rules about the King, and that he trusted the world would amend, and that they should have a day upon these knaves one day, and honest men should rule about the King one day."Says also he heard, about the some time, lord Montacute say that this world would come to stripes one day. Also when the abbeys were first plucked down, having communication with lord Montacute and Sir Geoffrey Poole on that matter, examinate said that both the King and the lord Privy Seal would hang in Hell for that matter. Also about Palm Sunday was twelve months the same three conversing together, lord Montacute wished that all the conversation between them about the King, card. Pole, change of the world, and plucking down of abbeys should be kept secret. Heard also lord Montacute say he trusted to see the abbeys up again one day. Has heard him very much praise the marquis of Exeter, saying that he was a very noble man and one of very good mind and good courage. Thinks if any change should have been, lord Montacute would have had a very assured friend of the lord Marquis. Has heard Sir Geoffrey [Po]le say that cardinal Pole should marry the lady [Mary]. Has thought when communication has been of change, that the said lady Mary would have a title to the Crown one day. Signed: Jhon Colyns.
Pp. 2. Slightly mutilated.
R. O. 2. Of Jasper Horsey. Date at head [14 Nov.] lost by mutilation. Confesses "that he w[as] present with the lad[y Marquis], then being in a disguised apparel, at Canterbury w[ith the Nun] there, but this examinat saith [he was] not present at any [communic]ation [be]tween the said lady Marquis an [d the n]oon; howbeit he saw the said noon, and a monk called Bocking in a noonrye [at] Canterbury at dinner, at which time the said lady Marquis dined with the said [no]on and Doctor Bocking." The nun was at Horsely another time, but he saw her not. Heard she had a trance there. Has seen one Golde, a priest, many times resort to the said lord Marquis' house, but for what intent he knows not. Has seen the lord Montacute, the Master of the Horses, and Sir Edw. Nevell, many times resort to the said house, as well when the Marquis was at home as when the lady Marquis was at home and the Marquis absent. Signed.
P . 1. Mutilated and injured by damp. The lost words are supplied from Nos. 830 (2 i.) and 831 iv.
R. O. 3. Of Win. Brent, 14 Nov.
Says that he has seen one Thomas Footeman, servant to the lord Marquis at the lord Montacute's house, but knows not the cause of his coming. Also has seen the superscription of Jerters directed by lord Montacnte to the lady Marquis which one Tyrell used to carry, but knows nothing of what was contained in them. Heard lord Mont acute say since his imprisonment that he had rather live there in prison than abroad in suspicion, and that "he had lived in prison all these six years, erer since h[e perceived] his brother hath taken this way. He sayeth also t . . . . [hath at] sundry times this summer borne from the lord Montacute [to Mrs. DarrellJ three letters, but of the contents of those letters he knowe[th nothing]."
Signature mutilated.
ii. Upon further examination, says he has seen lord Montacute many times burn letters, and has had letters of his in keeping which he delivered to the said lord Montaeute,who used to burn or cast into the jakes many of them. He says also he has many times seen Colyns, the priest, and Jerome Ragland commune with lord Montacute in his closet and other places secretly, but what they communed or did he knows not. Says also that he "hath seen the lord Montacute [at Sir Geoffrey Poole's house], at Luftington, and hath seen the said lord Montacute [and] Sir Geoffrey Pole alone [walk] forth in the gardens and fields adjoining to the house, bnt what communication they have had this examinat knoweth not." Signed: Wyllyam Bre[nt].
P . 1. Mutilated and illegible from damp. Mutilations partly supplied from No. 830 (2 rv.).
R. O. 4. [Further deposition of John Colyns].
"My lord Montagu saying to me of the book sent to the King by his brother."
He said the book contained the history of a dumb child, who when he saw his father in great danger "burst out and spake and bade his father beware," and so the Cardinal in his book said nature burst out and spake in him.
As to Hierome, he has heard as much as I of my Lord, for he was with him many times "when I was [no]tt,[an]d my Lord, I knowel, told him as we . . . . . . . 1 . . d me, for he and I have talked . . . . . . [o]f such matters as my Lord and I [have commu]ned off as off thys boke off Sir . . the car . . . . . . . he hathe talked with me, and he hathe rehersyd . . . . . . and begynnynge theroff; he knew also off t[he letters] to the Kynge, to the lorde Preavy Sele and to [the bi]shop of Dyrram of the change (?) off the . . . . . . . . . have trusted ons that ytt schuld . . . . . . . . . . . suppressynge off the the abbayes . . . . . . . . . . . churchys and namely the churche of . . . . . . . that rulythe (?) a bow the Kynge he . . . . . . . . . . . or dyd natt helpyt and att the . . . . . . . . . . . . Dyrrams letters Hierome was bye w . . . . . . . . . . cast it in to the fyre and made wyse . . . . . . . "
P . 1. In Coigns' hand. Very mutilated and illegible. Endd.
828. Examinations.
R. O. [Examination of Geo. Croftes].
Q . "Of your communications with the lord De Laware touching the statutes and proceedings of this realm?" A . I had none, saving that in February last, declaring to me his last will and testament, he showed me "that a certain of binds" that he would leave for the performance th[ereof J "was of such nature that it would abarr the Statu[te of] Uses."Q. With Sir Geoff. Pole touching the bp. of London? A . None beyond what I have deposed, saving that he rehearsed to me part of the last sermon he preached at Paul's shortly aft[er he] had preached it. Q. [With the s]ame touching Sir Thos. [MoreJ, the late bp. of Rochester, and the Charterhouse monks? A . I have heard him rehearse how, and how patiently, they died. I have asked him if one might without jeopardy have More's books in keeping. He said"Yea, for they treated not of the King's matters," and lent me a chronicle of More's making of Richard III. Q . With him or others touching plucking down of abbeys? A . I always thought the life of religious men such that God of his justice could send them no less punishment. Sir Geoffrey lamented the pulling down of Byshame because his kin and ancestors lay there. I said to Ric. Themew at Tychefyld it was right to save the walls of the church there for use. I have said the going abroad of religious men would bring slander upon priesthood, because the bishops regarded not their learning nor manners, "seeing they should keep the cloister." Q . With Freend, Langley or others of the chu[rch of Ch]ichester "touching . . em of the p . . . . . ? "A . Has said the payment of firstfruits was a grievous "joyke," but cannot remember any communications with them about it. Q . With Sir Geoffrey or others touching cardinal Pole? A . "Coming up[on the] way with Trase," I said of him that evidently for mere promotion he "toke the byshope of Rorays pa[rt, and th]at yf I bad byn of hys crupelosite of consciens the por[est l]evyng shuld rather have satysfyid me"than I would have given the King occasion to take displeasuie with my brethren and friends, and it was pity the Cardinal ever was born. Q . With any one touching religion? A . Dr. Trobulfyld coming a fortnight hence from London told me and my brethren that a certain prior or warden of Friars before he would avoid his house would needs see the Visitor's commission; which specified that the King was content they should go abroad to get their living as they desired, seeing that they desired it and the people had u no devotion "to give them a living. This the friar denied, and so saved his house; and so, we judged, the friars with us might have done I have said it was well to take the great possessions from religious men, but they should be suffered to remain in their houses with a poor living if they would. Q . With [lord] Delaware touching the lord [Montacute and the] lord Marques? A . I remember none. I am of "noe famylyar accquey[ntance with the say]de ij lords." Q . [With] Colyns, the priest, touching the vic[ar of East Meon?], cardinal Pole or the lord . . . . . . . . ? A . It is so long since I spoke to Colyns that I forget. I know of no letters between the said persons since Colyns went to lord Mowntagew's service. Q . What letters you have known written by Sir Geoffrey or Colyns to cardinal Pole or the vicar of Estmayn? A . I know of none. Hugh Holonde told me two years ago he had spoken with the "vycary" of Est Mayne, who had him commended to me, "and likewise did "the vicar's brother-in-law, (fn. n29) who came up a prisoner with me.
Confesses he was consulted by Sir Geoffrey and his wife when Sir Geoffrey was determined to go over sea. Wrote to Sir Geoffrey next morning that Our Lady had appeared and warned him to show Sir Geoffrey that his departing the realm would destroy all his kin. A fortnight after asked John Colens to get lord Montague to see Sir Geoffrey's debts paid, which were "a great occasion for him to flee." A way was taken by Montague, and his debts, amounting to a great sum, were paid.
Pp. 4. Mutilated and stained. The questions are in an official hand, the answers in that of Crofte himself.
R. O. 2. Morgan Wells, examined.
Has said openly he "would kill with a hand-gun Peter Meotes or any other whom he should know to kill the cardinal Pole, and that he was going over seas for that purpose." Has said so to Colens, lord Montacute's chaplain, and others; Colens bade him "be of good mind and make a cross in his forehead." It was rumoured at lord Montacute's house that the said Cardinal should be killed with a hand-gun. First heard it from George Legg, servant to lord Hastings. Was at Bokmar this last summer when Hugh Holland and one Ayre came thither, and it was said in Bokmar that Ayer should open the said Holland's going over seas. Colyns, a priest, about Corpus Christi tide last rode Jrom Bokniar and came suddenly again. Knows not where he went Hierome Ragland, Thos. Nanfant and Wm. Brent, now waiting upon lord Montacute in the Tower, were most of counsel with the said lord, especially Hierome, who was as it were his right hand. There was a bruit in lord Montacute's house that the cardinal Pole "should do them all good one day" and examinate has openly said so among his fellows. Tyrrrell has often ridden forth ; he knows not whither, but thinky if any man went to the lord Marquis it was Tyrell, who would never say where he went, but always declared he would be home the same night. Has seen one Thomas Foo[tman], servant to the [lord Marquis, many times at] Bokmar. especially this last] summer, but knows nothing of his errand.
P . 1. Slightly mutilated and injured by damp.
829. Examinations (fn. n30)
R. O. i. Copy of the examination of George Croftes [12 Nov.] as in No. 803.
It then proceeds : (fn. n31) —And moreover he confesses that Hugh Holland told him two years past he had spoken with the vicar of Estmayne, who wished to be commended to this examinate. The vicar of brother, Mr. Lawe, who came up a prisoner with this examinate, also did commend him. Sir Geoffrey Pole in his study showed examinate he would depart the realm for safeguard of his life, and called his wife to the council. Urged him to the contrary, but could not persuade him, but he would begone with the next wind. Took leave of him, and delivered him 20nobles. Next morning wrote to him "affirming that he had t[he most marvellous dream that ni]ght that ever he had in his ly[fe, and that he thought our La]die did appear unto him and she[wed] hy[m that it shou]lde [be] the destruction of the said Sir Geoffrey and of [all hi]s kin if he departed the realm. And that within four . . . . . (fn. n32) after this examinate told Master John Colyns that h[e had stay]ed the said Sir Geoffrey and required him that he [would by his] wisdom cause the lord Moutacute his master to se[e the said Sir] Geoffrey Pole's debts paid; for this examinat saith [that he fea]red lest that should be a great occasion for him to [flee. Where] upon he saith that there was a way taken by the sa[id lo]rde Montacute that all his said debts amounting to a great [sum] were paid, as he thinketh."
ii. Copy of the examination of Croftes on the 13th Nov. as in No. 822 (1 and 2). The text of the continuation (written consecutively here) is as follows :— (fn. n33)
He saith also he has heard four or five times when he was at the Court that "the lady of Salisbury if she had right should be countess of Warwick and Salisbury, and that the lord Marquis of Exeter should have half [the earldom of the Marches. He] sayth also [th]at Sir Anthony Seynt[monte showed him that he had n]ede to beware of Sir Henry Owen, [and how that the said] Sir Henry had spokeu to one Thomas [A]len [to accuse this] examynat to the lorde Privy Seal thai he h[ad spoken] many villanous words by queen Aune; and that [the said Sir] Henry Owen had bid the said Thomas Alen [show] the lord Privy Seal that this examynat. could te[ll marvellous tjhings of a great confederacy between the lord Mar[qu]es of [Exeter], the lord Montacute. the lord Chamberlain and lord [De]laware, and that this examynat should be a common [mes]sengev between them." Forgets whether the earl of Oxford was also named amongst them. Thos. Alen replied to Sir Henry Owen that he would not open these things because he saw they were spoken of malice. At Whitsuntide last examinate thanked Alen for this. Examined whether he opened this that Sir Anth. Seyntmount showed him to the lord Delaware; says he never showed it to him or any other.
In another hand: He says also that after the statute for the abolition of the bp. of Rome's authority nothing grieved him so much as to give the oath taking the King as Supreme Head.
iii. 14 Nov. anno predicto:— "Idibus Novembris duobus diebus exceptis Britannie terra renovabitur nova trophea Post quatuor centum cum mille semel et unum Et triplex x octo etas completur in Christo Tune erunt Angli honoribus cito privati.
"The sa[id Croftes further sayeth that he is] in his stomach the same man [in all opinions that he was xx yearjes pa[st]e; and that such statutes and ordinances as have since] that ty[me] passed contrary to that old order [which then] w[as] used in the [C]hurche have ever grudged his [conscience]. He saith also that at the beginning when the statute [was a-ma]king for the abolishment of the bishop [of Rome's a]uthority this examinate once showed the lord Delaw]are th]at it was a mad thing to go about by making of a [law] to make men believe that in England the contrary whe[re]of was believed in all places of the world." When the said statute was newly passed, was minded to have fled the realm, and some rumour being spread thereof lord Delaware wrote to him exhorting him to conform; for if he should flee he would be had again wheresoever he were. Whenever he has heard preaching against pilgrimages, honouring of images, praying to saints, &c, he has declared himself to lord Delaware as of the contrary opinion to that preaching, and in all old customs of the Church to be of the old opinions. Counselled lord Delaware to put from his service a keeper and another servant named Thatcher, a skinner, because they were of the new opinions. Lord Delaware put them away, and one Vaughan, another servant, was put away with them. Has "at divers times so declared [his opinions] . . . . . . . . . that the [said] lord Delaware [might perceive that he] would have him persevere and continue in such opinions] as heretofore were wont to be used in the Church. [And because] he perceived the said lo[rd] Delaware never wavered in [any of they]m, this examinat never counselled him much to stick [in it; but] he saith that if he had perceived that the said lord Delaware [had] begun to waver he then was in mind [to h]ave earnestly [c]oun[selled a]nd exhorted him to stick unto it." (fn. n34)
Pp. 8.
2 . . . . . . . [Novemb]er:— "John [Colyns, priest, parson of Rushale, in] the county of Southampshire, examined, saye[th that about the feast of Corpus Christi] then last past, upon a certain Fryd[ay. this examinate, being at Bock]mar with the lord Montacute, his master, w[as at that time] sent by Sir Geoffrey Poole, then being also at Bock [mar, to the s]ayd Sir Geoffrey's house called Luftingt[on] to burn his letters [there]. Wher[eup]on this examinat the next day following went thither and [burne]d certain letters there, the contents of which he knoweth not, saving that one of them was sent from the vicar of Estmayn, and that certain Popish prayers were contained amongst them." The lady Pole was present at the burning of the letters. Was present with lord Montacute and Sir Geoffrey about midsummer last at Halfnakyd, the lord Delaware's house, and they came from thence "both together" to Chichester townes end, where Sir Geoffrey tarried and lord Montacote rode to Warblington. Further, after the burning of the letters, lord Montacnte and Sir Geoffrey came together to London. At midsummer before the said burning lord Montacute was with the lady of Salisbury, and from her came to Bockmar. Has heard at Bockmar of Hugh Holland being beyond seas with letters, it was rumoured, to card. Pole. Holland was at Buckmar about the same time, and the discussing of his often going beyond seas was by one Ayer to Tyndall, and by Tvndall to the priest of Havant. After the burning of the said letters, came back to Alton the same night and next day to Bockmar. "At his return the lord Montacute was gone to London, a[nd within four or five days came to Boc]kmar again. [An]d being ex[amined whether the lord Mon]tacute at his return asked him any th[ing] o[f the burning of the sa]yd letters, answereth, Nothing to his remembrance. [He saith al]so that he hath heard the lord Montacute many times say th[at he had] no mind to Warblington." After [he] ha[d burned] the said letters he met Sir Geoffrey at Warblington [and] showed him that according to his pleasure he had burned his letters. On better remembrance, thinks he showed lord Montacute he had burned Sir Geoffrey's said letters. At his aforesaid going to Luftington, Sir Geoffrey delivered him a ring for a token to his wife, willing her to bring him to his (Sir Geoffrey's) study to burn the letters of the vicar of Estmayn and others. Doctor Sterkey's man delivered examinate letters from the vicar of Estmayn from Wyttenberg, desiring him to deliver certain candlesticks, surplices, and other trifles. There was nothing else in the letters. Morgan once showed him he would kill with a hand-gun whoever should kill the Cardinal. Bade him take heed what he did. Told this to Sir Geoffrey. On returning from burning the letters at Sir Geoffrey Pole's, his master, lord Montacute, asked him where he had been. Said, at Luftington, where he had burnt the letters he was sent to burn. Lord Montacute asked how lady Pole did. Replied that she did "as a woman in her case might, meaning that she was in heaviness, for such news as was of h[er husband, Sir Geoffrey, and opening] of Hugh Holland's going over seas. He saith [also that among the letters burn]yd in Sir Geoffrey Poole's house there was [one. copy of an epistle sent to the Ejmperor's ambassador, wherein the said Sir Geoffrey [desired the ambass]ador [to] bee good to the vicar of Estmayn. There was also one bundle of lettr]es written from the bishop of London to the said Sir Geoffrey, [and this exami]aat redd but one of the said letters, wherein the said bishop wrote th]att [his] comptroller the bishop of Rochester had been with him to [have a]ppointed one to preach at Paul's Cross, and that he had awn [swere] d that he would preach himself." There was also a little scroll from the vicar of Estmayn to Hugh Holland directing that if the said Hugh carce not to Louvain that summer he should send any letters for the vicar to a friar Observant at Antwerp who would see them conveyed. There was a letter containing that Dr. Latimer, "then being no bishop," had sent a crown to a man beyond the seas. When he told this to Sir Geoffrey, Sir Geoffrey said 'What, have you burned that also? Those letters were shown before the Council, and mv lord of Norfolk told me I might keep those letters well enough.' Has often heard the lord Montacute say he liked not the proceedings in the realm. George Tyrell was often sent from lord Montacute to the lord Marquis, but he knows not what letters or messages Tyrell carried. Lord Montacute often said he was sorry for the death of lord Abergavenny. Knows not whether lord Montacnte's son knew of the aforementioned letters, but he knew that examinate at that time went to Sir Geoffrey's house. John Fowell, of Warblington, went over to Louvain to the vicar of Estmayn for a certificate of his being there. Heard that lord Montacute and Sir Geoffrey rode together to lord Stafford's, but was not at that time with them.
" (fn. n35) The sa[id Colyns being further] examined, saith that Sir Geof[frey Pole showed this examinat walkin]g [in the] court att [War]blington abow[te midsummer was twelve month]s that Hugh Holland had been over the seas [with] card[inall Pole, and that] he had brought kny[v]es for a token to John Walker, b[ut he had n]ott delivered them himself, whereof the said Sir Geoffry [said he wa]s glad, for if Hugh had delivered the knyves he should haveTopene]d more matter also." Asked what matter was that? And Sir Geoffrey said "he should have bid John Walker have c[ome over sea]s to my brother." Sir Geoffrey showed him no more of Holland's message, and he never showed lord Montacute of this communication. About Christmas last lord Montacute showed examinate letters from cardinal Pole to the King and the lord Privy Seal, and the copy of another to the bp. of Durham, saying "Ye shall see he has been plain and opened his mind plainly unto them." Read the letters and gave those to the King and the lord Privy Seal back to lord Montacute, but kept that to the bp. of Durham till Corpus Christi tide last when lord Montacute asked for it and burned it. Speaking of the said letters examinate said the Cardinal "wrote somewhat roughly to the lord Privy Seal. "Marry ! I warrant you," said the said lord Montacute "he uttereth his mind plainly." Lord Montacute asked examinate's judgment of the letters to the bp. of Durham. Said he (the Cardinal) "had sufficiently answered to all the bishop of Durham's reasons, saving that he did not well perceive how he had avoided the first argument made by him. [He sayeth also that the lord Montacute] showed him two letters brought over by [one Belson, the King then lyin]g at Dover, written by the said card[inal Pole to the lady of S]alisber[y] and the lord Montacute, the [contents lof which] he doth [not] (fn. n36) now remember, but he saith he once in [communication sho]wed Master Croftes of them and the contents of them. A[nd at that t]yme he remembreth well he said they were well [and godly wr]itten, because he took the fault from his mother [and br]other, and laid the same upon himself."Received letters from the vicar of Estmayne of the election of cardinal Pole. They were sent from London, but he knows not who brought them over the seas. Lord Montacute said, walking by the church at Bockmar, it would be a strange world as words were made treason. Last summer delivered a coffer of his own and other written sermons to the vicar of Medmedham. Now, on the imprisonment of lord Montacute, told the vicar to burn all the said writings if examinate were sent for. Heard lord Montacute say at Bisham he was sent for at Parliament time that his mother should give up her title in the earldom of Warwick. Told lord Montacute that Mr. Croftes said Sir Geoffrey Pole would go over seas because he was indebted. Lord Montacute answered he had provided to stay that matter, and many of the debts were discharged.
[The words lost in this MS . are supplied from the original deposition. No. 830 (3).]
ii. Collins' further examination, 14 Nov. as in No. 827.
3. Examination of Elizabeth [Darell], as in No. 766.
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4. Examination of Sir Henry Owen, as in No. 821.
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830. Examinations.
R. O. Copies of depositions as follows, viz.:—
i. The seven examinations of Sir Geoffrey Pole. See No. 804.
ii. The three examinations of John Colyns, priest, . . . ., 13 and 14 Nov. See § 3 and Nos. 829 (2), 827.
iii. The three examinations of George Crofts, clerk, taken [12, 13, and 14] Nov. See Nos. 803, 822, and 829. (Transcribed apparently from the last, and containing the same additions.)
iv. The three examinations of the lady Marquis (mutilated). See Nos. 765, 804 iii.
v. Lord Montacute's examination [7] Nov. See No. 772.
vi. The first and second examinations of Sir Edw. Nevell (second very mutilated). See No. 804 iv.
vii. Examination of Eliz. Darell. See No. 766.
viii. Examination of Sir Harry Owen (mutilated). See No. 821.
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R. O. 2. Copies of depositions as follows:—
i. Of Jasper Horsey, examined 14 Nov. [30] Henry VIII. See No. 827 (2).
ii. Of Constance Bontayn, taken 12 Nov. See No. 802.
iii. Of Dame Constance, wife to Sir Geoff. Poole, taken 11 Nov. See No. 796.
iv. Of Wm. Brent, taken 14 Nov. See No. 827 (3).
v. Of George Tyrrell [8 Nov.] See No. 779.
vi. Of Morgan Wells. See No. 828 (2).
vii. Of Mrs. Couper, 12 Nov. See No. 820.
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R. O. 3. Original record of the first and second examinations of Colyns. (See § 1, ii.) Each page signed: Jhon Colyns.
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R. O. 4. Notes from depositions.
"Geoffray Pole:—"Item, . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . the Kyng was a . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . the Kyngz palays at Westm. an . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Sir Edwarde (fn. n37) wolde saye th . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . sytte slepyng, ye and soma t[imes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . slepe etyng lyke a beeste.
"Item, the seide Sir Edwa[rde] . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Sir Geoffray, Be mery . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . chaunge oone daye. And th . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . we shall have a daye upo[n] . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . these words hathe he spoken u . . . . . . . . . .of Westminster, and also diverse tym[es] . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . waye within these twoo yeres."
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R. O. 5. Articles against the prisoners, taken from their own confessions, with marginal references to folios in some book of depositions:—
i. Headed: To be given in evidence.
"Sir Geoffrey Pole sayeth that Croftes hath declared to him that they did like well the proceedings of the card. Pole and misliked the proceedings of this realm and wished for a change of this world." Signed: Geffrey Pole.
Sir Geoffrey showed Croftes of Hugh Holland's going to the Cardinal, and Croftes exhorted Sir Geoffrey to go over sea, "saying that it was the Cardinal that should do good [one] day, and gave Sir Geoffrey 20 nobles towards his charges, saying, 'Go. Ye may be able to do good another day.'" And within two days after Croftes wrote to Geoffrey that he had a vycyon in t[he n]yght from Our Lady that he should do better here than if he went over sea; and thereupon Sir Geoffrey paid the 20 nobles again." (In margin: folio 5). Signed by Sir Geoffrey.
"Item, this is affirmed by Croftes' confession. (Margin (fn. n38) : fo. 11).
"Item, it appeareth by Croftes' confession (fo. 12) that Geoffrey Pole said to him, I must go Northward, but I will shift for one well enough; and if they come to fighting, I will save one. Then said Croftes, If you will do so, then take a good horse under you.
"Item, Croftes prophesied.
"Item [Sir Geo]ffrey Pole saith that Croftes told him that the cardinal Pole shall one day restore the Church again.
"Item, hytt appeyryth by a letter by him sent to his father, which was since he was committed to the Tower, that he is the same manne [in] his heart concerning all things used in the Church as he was 20 years past, and that no act that ever he did more grieved his conscience than the oath which he took to renounce the bishop of Rome's authority; and that he would have done the best to have hid himself within this realm or else to have fled this realm. I neade reherse . . . . . to procure me 8 . . . . . . . [mo]st shameful death if you my Lord(?), schold be my juge. And also confessed himself t[o b]e a [t]raytour ageynst the Kyng.
["Item,] Croftes confessyon affyrmyth the same to be true."
ii. Colyns' confession.
1. He confesses he was sent by [Sir Geoffrey] to his house called Luffyngton to burn his [letters] there, and did so. 2. That he had read two letters from cardinal Pole (fos. 9 and 10 of second examination), the one to the King and the other to the lord Privy [Seal], and had never disclosed the same till now. 3. That this last summer (fo. 10, second exam.) he delivered a coffer of his sermons and other writings to the vicar of Meddenham, and after the taking of the lord Montague told the vicar to burn them if he was imprisoned. 4. That the lord Montague said to him (fo. 10) that knaves ruled about the King, and that he trusted the world would amend, and that they should have a day amongst these knaves one day; and also "This world will come to stripes one day." 5. That he (Colynsy said "that the King and the lord Privy Seal will hang in hell one day for the plucking down of abbeys." 6. That "in the communication of a change of the world he hath thought that the lady Mary should have a title to the Crown one day if any such change should happen." 7. It appears by the second article of his confession that [lord Monta]gue, at the later suppression of abbeys, said "I fear that within awhile they will pull down the parish churches also." 8. The said Colyns said, "I fear the same." 9. It appears in the 5th article that lord Montague said to Colyns after the insurrection was pacified "that it was noised [that t]heare sholbe a parlyament at York, and they theare to [h]ave a reformation of their requestes;" and said also that the time had been when nothing was surer than the promise of a prince, "but now they count it no promise but a great high policy to blind the people withal; but in case they should rise again he thought that the people will beware how they trust any such promise more; and Colyns thought the same." 10. It appears in the last article that lord Montague said to him that card. Wolsey was not so evil as men took him, for things are done now far worse, "and that he had been [a] honest man if he had had a honest master." 11. Colyns never disclosed this till now. 12. (In Ric. Pollard's hand.) "Item, hyt apperyth by Coly[ns] last confession that he had [fled over] see onely of . . . . . .ff concevyd nuely by occasion of a rumor wch whas at the deth o[f the lat]e ladye Anne that the [ladye M]ary shuld b[e heir to th]e Crowne." Each of the above articles signed Jhon Colyns.
iii. Geoffrey Pole['s confession].
1. He says (fol. 1) "that . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Nevill of these things (fn. n39) he he[rd Sir Edward Nevyll] say [that] he trusted the world would amend one day." 2 (fol. 5). He has heard Sir Edw. Nevill at Westminster most abominably deprave the King, saying that he was a beast and worse than a beast. 3 (fol. 6). That at [the King's] last being at Cowdrey, Sir Edw. Nevill said "Cousin, [let] us not be seen to speak togethers, for we be had in [suspicion; ye]t it forceth not, we shall do well enough one day."4. That Sir Edw. Nevill showed him (f. 6) ". . . . . . . . God's blood, I am made a fool among them, but I laugh and make merry to drive forth the time. The King keepeth a court of knaves here that we [dare no]ther loke nor speak, and I were able to live I wolde rather [live any] lyfe in the world then tary in the pryvye Chamber." Each of these articles signed by Sir Geoffrey Pole.
iv. My lady Marques confesses in her first confession (fol. 15) "that she has heard Sir Edw. Nevill sing and say divers times that he trusted this world would amend one day, and that honest men shall rule one day;" also that Sir Edward showed her that Peter Mewtas was s[ent over] the sea to slay card. Pole. 2. She confesses in her second examination (fo. 6) "that [Sir Edwar]d Nevill came to her [and b]ad her be merry; whereunto she [m]ade answer, 'How can I be merry, for my lord is gone to battle, and he will be one of the foremost?' Then said Sir Edward, 'Madam, be not afraid of this nor of the second, but beware of the third.'" 3. She also says in her third confession (fo. 15) "that she hath [heard the] said Sir Edward sing and say that he trusted that knaves sh[ould] be put down and lords reign one day."
v. Eliz. Darrell (fo. 2) informed the said Sir Geoffrey that the King intended to kill card. Pole by means of the French king. 2. "Item, the said Sir Geoffrey saith that he heard the [said] may stress [Roper and maystr]ess Clement say within this xij monythes that [they liked not] thys polyng down of abbeys, images, and pilgrima[ges and prayed God] send a chaunge." These two articles are crossed through.
vi. Sir Geoffrey Pole says (fo. 2) that Hugh Holland showed him that card. Pole told him beyond sea "that if his own brother or any other of his kin were of that opinion, that the King and other of his realm be of, that he would defye [the]ym and tread upon the[ym] with his feate." Signed: Gefferey Pole.
vii. The confession of Sir Edward Nevill.
He confesses [that he] gave warning to the Marquis of the apprehension of his bear-ward.
(fn. n40) Geoffrey Pole says that the bishop of London said he himself was but a cipher, for the lord Privy Seal and the bishop of Rochester had appointed heretics to preach at Paul's Cross.
(fn. n40) "Item, hit appeareth by Cobns' confession that he found a bundle of letters in Jeffrey [Pole's] house at Luffyngton, sent to Sir Geoffrey by the byssh[op of] Lo"[ndon]."
Pp. 8. Mutilated and much injured by damp. With annotations in Pollard's hand.
** On a blank leaf of the same document are some jottings in Pollard's hand, partly illegible; but the following words may be made out:—
". . . for the prove herof hyt ys . . . . . . . . . . . . . the Mr., of the Horse laboryd to the Kyug for a letter of comfort unto the lady Merques apon the knolyge of her offence therof. And lykewyse the lord Merques hathe afore thys tyme k . . . . . the same offence to the Kyng."
831. Extracts from Depositions.
R. O. "First touching the lady Marques by her own confession."
The lady Marquis examined, confesses she showed lord Montacute, that the lord Marquis her husband was warned to avoid his company, and that the King had sent her husband to London "concerning a certain berewarde." She has heard Sir Edward Nevell say and sing merrily "he trusted this world [would] amend one day and that honest men should rule one day." She rebuked him. Sir Edward said Peter Meotes was sent over sea to slay the cardinal Poole. When her husband was gone to the North at the Insurrection, Sir Edward came to her saying "Madame, how do you? Be ye merry?" Answered, "How can I be merry? My lord is gone to battle, and he will be one of the foremost." He replied, "Madame, be not afeared of this no[r] of the second, but beware of the third." She said "Ah! Master Nevell, you will never leave your Welsh prophecies, but one day this will turn to your displeasure." Has heard Sir Edward sing in her garden at Horsley about Peter Meotes (as before) and "that he trusted knaves should be put down, and lords should reign again one day."
ii. Depositions of Sir Geoffrey Pole touching the lady Marquis.
After Mrs. Darell showed him of the intended displeasure against his brother the Cardinal, he went to lord Montacute in his garden and said "Marry, I hear that our brother beyond the sea shall be slain." "No," said Montacute, "he is escaped. I have letters." Thinks the letters were either from Mrs. Darell or from the lady Marquis of Exeter. Saw letters of the lady Marquis to lord Montacute containing that when the latter was spoken of in the Council the lord Marquis had offered to be bound for him. Montacute showed him the letters beside Hounslow: they were all in the lady Marquis' hand. The lady Marquis once bore him good mind; "but after it was perceived that the King favour[ed] this examinate they said he would tell all and therefore trusted him no le[nger]."
iii. Depositions of lord Montacute touching the lady Marquis.
Received letters from my lady Marquis saying that her husband had offered in Council to be bound body for body for him. Has heard Sir Edward Nevell sing merry songs when the lady Marquis was present "and willed him to stop or stay there."
iv. Depositions of Jasper Horsey.
Was with the lady Marquis, "she then being in a disgysed (?) apparel," at Canterbury with the Nun there. Saw the Nun and a monk called Bockyng in a nunnery at Canterbury at dinner with the lady Marquis. Another time the Nun was at Horsley and there had a trance as he heard.
v. Deposition of Constance B[ontane].
That about two years past she and the lady Marquis rode to the Nun at Canterbury, she being attired like the servant and examinate like the mistress.
The lady Marquis never showed her why she went or what she heard except that the Nun "showed her that she should come to a very shameful death." Afterwards the Nun came to Horsley and there lay in a trance. The lady Marquis often wrote to, and had letters from lord Montacute. The lady Marquis said "nothing grieved her husband so much in all his life as the putting out of the Privy Chamber"; also that noble men are put out and the King takes in others at his pleasure.
vi. Deposition of William Brent.
Has seen the superscription of letters from lord Montacute to the lady Marquis which one Tyrell used to carry.
vii. Deposition of George Tyrrell.
Carried letters from his master lord Montacute to the lady Marquis and brought back answers at Candlemas, Easter following, Midsummer and again at Easter last.
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R. O. 2. Depositions touching the lord Delaware.
i. Of Sir Geoffrey Poole.
Examined with whom he has spoken who misliked the proceedings in the realm and wished for a change: Says lord Delaware, twelve months ago, was of that opinion, but lately, when the King was in Sussex, Delaware said he was not so inclined to that as he had been.
ii. Of George Croftes, clerk.
Lord Delaware, on coming from the arraignment of lord Darcy, said he trusted Darcy would not be put to death, for the lord Privy Seal had promised the lords at the arraignment to try and save both his life and goods. Lord Delaware also said he and many other lords were with the King at Hampton Court. When the Act of Uses was passed lord Delaware, being at home, said he grudged much at it. At the time of the last Insurrection, lord Delaware showed him that Sir Henry Owen had spoken against him (Croftes); and counselled him to go, with such strength as he could make, to Court and offer his service to the King. Went and abode there all the time of the Insurrection, and on his return told lord Delaware all about it. When the statute was in making for abolishing the bishop of Rome's authority, he said to lord Delaware it was a mad thing to attempt by law to make men believe in England the contrary to what was believed everywhere else.
When the statute was first passed he was minded to flee the realm, but lord Delaware, hearing of this, wrote exhorting him to conform to the statute. Touching pilgrimages, praying to saints, honouring of images, &c, he has shown himself to lord Delaware to be one of the old opinion used in the Church. Lord Delaware dismissed one Thatcher and another servant for saying they were of the new opinions. Intended, if he had ever perceived lord Delaware to waver in any of the old opinions of the Church, to have exhorted him to against doing so. Being examined in what old opinions lord Delaware never wavered he said those touching prayer to saints, pilgrimages, purgatory, free will, and justification.
iii. Of Sir Henry Owen, knight.
Has heard lord Delaware say he "liked not this world of plucking down abbeys," and speak against Acts of Parliament, and say, "A time will come that God will punish for this plucking down of abbeys and for reading of these new English books."
The lord Marquis of Exeter and the lord Delaware were very intimate and many presents passed between them.
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14 Nov. 832. Cranmer to Cromwell.
Asks him to find means to prefer Cranmer's chaplain, Dr. Champion, to the benefice of Shepton Mallet, worth 26l. a year, the incumbent of which, one Croftes, is in the Tower and like to be convicted of high treason. It is the parish in which Dr. Champion was born and where his kinsfolk dwell. The King and lord Delaware give it alternis vicibus and the King gave it last. He can best tell whether he gives it again by reason of this attainder. It will be more to Champion's commodities than a benefice ten times its value, because he will not only have occasion to do some good continually in his native country by preaching, but also help the judgments of his kinsmen and friends the sooner by this means. Lambeth, 14 November, Signed.
P. 1. Add.: Lord Privy Seal.
14 Nov. 833. Lady Lisle to [Lord Lisle]
R.O Arrived on Saturday the 9th. Sent on Sunday to know whether I could speak with my lord Privy Seal. Saw him on the Monday. Found him very good lord to me and my son, (fn. n41) his servant, both for my suit and your annuity. At his suggestion sent to Sir John Russell to know when I could see the King. He told me I must come to Hampton Court. I was greatly disquieted, and sent again to Russell, who sent me word on Wednesday that I should come to the Court to his chamber at 4 in the afternoon. At my coming there I was had to a lodging prepared for me, and other lodgings for my lord and lady Suffolk, the earls of Sussex and Hartford, and their ladies, unknown to me. We were highly feasted and after dinner today his Grace showed us all the commodities of his palace. I thanked him for the great goodness he had shown unto us and my son. He was very gracious unto you, and willed me to resort to the lord Privy Seal, which I shall do this morning. I have heard nothing of Paynswick. London, 14 Nov. Signed.
In Hussey's hand, pp. 2.
14 Nov. 834. John Husee to Lord Lisle.
R.O. My Lady has been both with the King and my lord Privy Seal and had good words as well for her own suit as for your annuity. My lord Privy Seal says you shall have the Friars; but the time must be tarried. Hitherto my Lady has had no motion for Painswick. The boars' heads my Lady sent the King and so "demerited" thanks. Acton promises to make assurance; if not I will sue his bond. Mr. Smith of the Exchequer is half miscontent at your requiring assurance from him. If you have any bond over him I would fain see it. I have not yet spoken with my lord Marquis. Mr. Bonham is in hand with my Lady and would pay 30l. and the rest at a day. The liveries must needs be paid now, and 30l. will not serve. Edw. Russell will give as much and pay ready money. My Lady will write of this. On Saturday next Lambert shall dispute his cause concerning the Sacrament against eight doctors in the King's presence. "It is verily thought Lambert will to the fire, which if he deserve God send him." London, 14 Nov.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Deputy of Calais.
14 Nov. 835. Southampton and Thos. Bp. of Ely to Cromwell.
Ellis 2 S.
Yesterday, 13 Nov., as we wrote we would do, we travailed with the lady of Salisbury all day, both before and after noon, till almost night; but for all we could do she would confess nothing more than the first day. Today, between 8 and 9 a.m., on receipt of your letters dated Westminster, the 13th, we repaired to her again. But first, as instructed, we called her men servants before us, and apprehended Standishe. We then "entreated her with both sorts, sometime with doulx and mild words, now roughly and asperly, by traitoring her and her sons to the ninth degree, yet woll she nothing utter, but maketh herself clear;" strongly denying everything laid to her, and saying that if anything she has denied can be proved, "she is content to be blasme in the rest of all the articles laid against her. Surely, if it like your Lordship, we suppose that there hath not been seen or [harde of a] woman so earnest in her co . . . . . . manlique in continuance, an[d] . . . . and so precise, as well in gest[ure as in] words, that wonder is to be . . . . For in her answer and declara[tion] she behaveth herself so, and so . . . all thing sincere, pure, and up[right] on her part that we have concey[ved] and needs must deem and th[ink] the tone of ij things in her, that [either] her sons have not made her pr[ivy] ne participant of the bottom and pit [of] their stomachs, or else is she the [most] errant traitress that ever [lived]. And now that we have sei[zed her] goods and given her notice [that the] King's pleasure is she shall [g] (fn. n42) . . . . . . . . she seemeth thereat to be somew[hat] appalled. And therefore we deem [that if] it may be so, she woll the[n] utter somewhat when she is remo[ved], which we intend shall be tomor[row], so that we have caused invento[ries] to be made of her said goods; and of such things as may be easily carried, as plate and other . . . . charge, our purpose is to take [them with] us. For the rest, and for the [ordering] of her household, we have appointed John Chadreton and [Babham] (fn. n43) steward of household, whom [we take] for an honest man, that they shall s[ee to] the order and rule thereof, and [also] wait and attend continually thereon till such time as the King's pleasure be farther known from your Lordship therein." We have also required one White, farmer of the late priory of Southwyke, Mr. Waite and Mr. Talke, all gentlemen and neighbours, with others, to have vigilant eye to repress any stirring that may arise. Will bring Standishe safe up with us, for we can get him to confess nothing. Warblington, 14 Nov. late in the night. Signed.
Pp. 3. Add.: Lord Privy Seal.
14 Nov. 836. Sir Raynold Carnaby to Cromwell.
R. O. Received by his brother, Thomas Carnaby, Cromwell's letters signifying that the King was content with his service. The copy of his letters to my lord President will show the state of affairs here. Is sorry he cannot report better news. Allenton in Ryddesdale, 14 Nov.
Hol.,p. 1. Add.: Lord Privy Seal. Endd,
15 Nov. 837. Dr. Skipp, the King's Almoner.
See Grants in November, No. 23.
15 Nov. 838. The Countess of Salisbury's Goods and Servants.
R. O. Inventory taken at Warblington, 14 Nov. 30 Hen. VIII, of the furniture in the following chambers, viz.:—the wardrobe, the middle and lower chambers over the gate, the nether and uppermost corner chamber, the two bedchambers, the low parlour next the great parlour, the great chamber, the next chamber called the waiting chamber, the dining chamber, the chambers of Mr. Stuarde, Mr. Chamlay, Sir Robert, (fn. n44) Mr. Nicholson, the clerk, George Mysse and Harry Somers, the cook, John Hode and Harry Latymer, Edm. Thurlowe, Thope and Davy, the porter, the comptroller's servant, Mr. Newburghe, Mr. Warnay and Mr. Middileton, Mr. Parkyns and Mr. Hasset, Broune and Cotismour, the groom of the stables, the baker, John Pistowe, in my Lady's own chamber and the chamber within it, in the chapel chamber and closet, in the chapel, in the middle chamber in the tower over my Lady's chamber, in the great parlour, the ewry, kitchen, scullery, and buttery. "The apparel in her guardrobe," i.e., 1 gown black satin furred with "bowge"; 1 gown black satin furred with martens, sleeves lined with sable; 1 gown black velvet lined with buckram, sleeves with satin; a suit of foynes for a woman's gown, the sleeves martens; 1 kirtle tawny velvet; 1 old kirtle tawny damask; 2 small cloth sacks, 7½ tod of wool, and a "botle sadle coverd with buff." An "estimate view" of the remainder in all offices, including farm stock at Warblington, Crockham, and Dorford.
II . Inventory made 15 Nov. 30 Hen. VIII. by the lord Admiral and bishop of Ely, of the goods of the lady of Sarum:—
1. Coffers at Warblington which the said lords have sealed and left with John Chadreton and John Babham, steward to the said lady; one of them contains silk and gold to work with, another silk "to set the young a-work and a cushion wrought with the needle," another linen and a case of knives silver and gilt, with a. little cup of mother-of-pearl, and so on. (2.) Coffers brought from Warblington to Cowdrey, and there left sealed, i.e., a black carriage chest, the little chest of "seo "with a chequier in the top, the great red carriage chest, containing numerous items of plate (detailed). Of all the coffers my Lady has the keys and the said lords have sealed them.
(3.) Stuff my Lady has to serve her at Cowdrey. Md. besides the "said money" in the leather bag and the crimson velvet purse there is found in the coffers of the said lady 20l. delivered to John Chadreton to serve the household at Warblington, and 6 silver spoons to be occupied there. Besides the plate at Cowdrey there was pledged to the steward, Babham, 2 standing cups and 1 doz. trenchers of silver, and to the comptroller, Oliver Franklayne, a salt of gold and 6 silver bowls.
III . The names of her servants.
The lady Margaret Stafford, Mrs. Wenefred, Mary and Margaret Poole, daughters of Sir Arthur, Katharine Poole, daughter of Sir Geoffrey, Johan Cholmeley, Johan Francleyne, Anne Raglande, Eliz. Cheynye, Dorothy Erneley, and Alice Densell. John Babham, steward, Oliver Frankleigne, comptroller; Mr. Newton, Mr. Nicholson, and Sir Robt. Backhouse, chaplains; Geo. Vernay, Wm. Perkyns, Chr. Newburgh, Edw. Middleton, Walt. Browne and Ant. Cotismor, gentlemen waiters; John Larke and Thos. Tandishe (sic) clerks of the kitchen. Also 6 yeomen of the chamber, marshal and usher, and servants in the pantry 2, buttery 2, ewry 2, wardrobe 2, Harry Roberts at Bisham, porters 2, grooms of the chamber 2, cooks 3, and bakers 2; all named. Also a slaughterer, a "catour," a tyler, a beer brewer, 3 boys of the kitchen, a horsekeeper, servant of the "squillery," almoner and laundress, all likewise named.
"Gentlemen's servants," 10; viz., Babham 2, Frankleigne 2, Newton 1, Nicholson 1, Geo. Verney 1, Perkynz 1, Newburgh 1, and Cotismor 1.
Harry Corbet, found of alms; and the fool. Total, 72.
Mutilated, pp. 25. The last leaf found apart. Endd.: Th'inventarie of my lady of Sarum's goods. § § I. and II. are in the hand of Southampton's clerk.
15 Nov. 839. Suppression of the Monasteries.
R.O. Book of account of Thos. Ligh, LL.D., and Wm. Cavendish, auditor, the King's Commissioners for the dissolution of these monasteries following. * * Setting forth in detail, a. the goods sold (under various heads, as, for instance, in the case of Merivale, the church, vestry, cloister and chapterhouse, hall, buttery, chief parlour, inner chamber, great old chamber, and four other chambers, named, kitchen, larder house, brewhouse, malt house, bakehouse, lime house, implements of the barn, carts and cart ware, smithy, grain at the monastery, grain at Newhouse Grange, hay, cattle at the monastery, cattle at Newhouse, sheep at Cronxston (fn. n45) in the Peak, and white plate), b. rewards given to monks and servants, c. Commissioners' expenses (headed "cates bought"), d. goods unsold (gilt plate, white plate, lead, bells), e. rents already received, f. rents still unpaid, g. fees and annuities granted out under convent seal, h. debts owing by the house, i. debts owing to the house, k. money owing to the house for wood bought' l. pensions appointed to the monks, and m, memoranda.
i. Lists of names of the juries who appraised the goods of the several houses, 12 for each.
ii. (1.) Merivale abbey, Warw. a. Sold to lord Ferres, 133l. 12s. 2d. b. To the abbot 6l. 13s. 4d.; to eight monks 50s. each, to one, a deacon 40s., and to 42 servants and others, various sums, 49l. 2s. 10d., the last item being "a poor man, 12d."c. 8l. 16s. 11d. d. 132 oz. of gilt and 26 oz. of white plate, lead valued at 32l., and 4 bells at 30l. e. and f. 29l. 1s. 2d. g. To the marquis of Dorset 40s., the lord Privy Seal 4l., and to 14 others; in all 26/. 16s. 8d. h. 150/. 2s. 6d. i. By Edw. Chamberlain, Jasper Owynne, Sir Wm. Turvell and 13 others 92/. 10*. Sd. k. Si. 17*. Sd. I. To Wm. Arnold, abbot, 40/., John OneBhye, Wm. Robynson, John Dane, Wm. Tunman, Edm. Crokhyll, Wm. Broone, Thos. Bensoune, and Kobt. Sany, 5/. 6*. Sd. or 5/. each, John Spere, deacon, 53*. Ad. m. There remain the buildings iron and glass, and lord Ferres was pnt in possession, 15 Oct. 30 Hen. VIII.
(2) Brewod, Staff, a. To Thos. Gyfforde, 7l. 6s. 1d. b. To the prioress, 40s., three nans, 20s. each, and eight servants, 78s. 2d. c. 60s. e. 4l. 3s. 4d. f. 34s. 9½d. l. To Isabel Launder, prioress, 66s. 8d.; Christabel Smyth, Alice Beche, and Felix Baggeshawe, 33s. Ad. each.
(3.) Lylleshull, Salop, a. To Wm. Cavendyssh, 74l. 18s. b. To ten canons, 25l., and thirty-eight servants, 28l. 15s. 4d.; several of them being "gentlemen" and one item being "to iiij gentlemen's sons, xiijs. 4d." c. 8l. 15s. 6d.; also paid to Thos. Langton, chantry priest at Lychefelde, his half year's pension due at All Saints Day next, "in consideration of his debility and sickness," 66s. 8d. d. Gilt plate 63 oz., white 96 oz., 7 bells 37 cwt., valued at 66l. 13s. 4d.; lead at 400l. m. There remain the buildings, &c, and Wm. Cavendish was in possession 18 Oct. 30 Hen. VIII. l. To Robt. Watson, abbot, 50l., and the mansion of Longdon, with an acre of ground thereto adjoining, and timber and firewood; to John Hall, Chr. Ledis, Thos. Dawson, John Pousebury, Roger Knowsall, Wm. Scutche, Ric. Cuerton, Thos. Maynard, Wm. Massie, Peter Robynson, 5l. to 6l. each; Sir John Takyll, 4l. 6s. 8d. g. To the earl of Shrewsbury, high steward there, 53s. 4d., Jas. Michell, (the King's corrody) 60s., and eight others, 19l. 6s. 8d. in all. h. 26l. 6s. 4d.
(4.) St. Thomas nigh Stafford, a. Sold to the bp. of Coventry and Lichfield, 18 Oct. 30 Hen. VIII., 87l. 9s. 6d. b. To the prior, 6l., to 5 monks 40s. each, and to one, 20s., and 26 servants, 12l. c. 8l. 19s. 10s. d. 28½ oz. of plate, lead worth 40l., and 4 bells worth 54l. m. Buildings left and a note of plate mortgaged. l. To Ric. Whytell, prior, 26l. 13s. 4.; Ric. Harney, sub-prior, Chr. Symsoun, Thos. Bagley, Wm. Pykestoke, and Wm. Stapleton, 5l. to 6l. each (Wm. Boudon who had 20s. reward has no pension), g. To lord Ferres, high steward, and 13 others, 13l. 20d. h. 235l. 19s. 7d.
(5.) Delacres, Staff, a. To Edw. earl of Derby, 21 Oct. 30 Hen. VIII., 63l. 14s. l0d. b. To the abbot, 6l.; to the prior and two monks, 50s. each; and to nine others, 40s. each; and to 30 servants, 14l. 5s. 10d., also 26s. 8d. to 8 poor beadwomen. c. 10l. 17s. d. 87 oz. of gilt and 30 oz. of white plate, lead valued at 720l., and 6 bells, 50 cwt., at 37l. 10s. m. l. To Thos. Wytney, abbot, 60l.; Robt. Bageley, prior, Hen. Benett, and Geo. Farny, 6l. each; Ralph Motsett, Randall Barnes, Win. Crosse, Robt. Cheryngtoun, Edm. Boultoun, Wm. Prowluffe, 5l. 6s. 8d., or 5l., each; Thos. Loke, Ric. Cordon, and John Bykertoun, 40s. each. g. To lord Derby, high steward, and to 18 others (among them Humph., John, Thos., and Nich. Wytney), 34l. h. 171l. 10s. 6d.
(6.) Darley, Derb. a. To Robt Sacheverell, 24 Oct. 30 Hen. VIII., 168l. 14s. 2d. b. To the abbot, 6l. 13s. 4d.; to the prior and 13 others, 50s. or 40s. each; and 57 servants (among them "a little poor boy" and "another poor boy "), 23l. 8s. 8d. c. 91. 10s. 4d. d. 98 oz. gilt and 37 oz. white plate, lead worth 640l. m. l. To Thos. Rage, abbot, 50l.; Wm. Stowbag, prior, 6l. 13s, 4d.; Ric. Macham, subprior, Walt. Ray, Hen. Hay, Nich. Jones, Hen. Tofte, Wm. Souter, Wm. ("Thomas" in the list of rewards) Haryson, Wm. Holylee, Thos. Trypett, Thos. Cost, and Edw. Cradoke, 6l. to 5l. each (Thurstan Bronne and Thurstan Bowesforth, who appear in the list of rewards, are not noticed for pensions). g. To the earl of Shrewsbury, 66s. 8d.; to Dr. Legh, 6l. 13s. 4d.; and to 41 others, 69l. 7s. 2d. in all. h. To 58 persons, 142l. 2d.
(7.) Dale, Derb. a. To Fras. Pole, 24 Oct. 30 Hen. VIII, 77l. 12s. 2d. b. To the abbot, 6l. 13s. 4d.; and to 15 monks, from 30s. to 40s. each; and to 30 servants, 15l. 9s. 8d. c. 6l. 6s. 8d. d. 62 oz. of white plate, 6 bells 47 cwt., and lead 200 fother. m. l. To John Bebe, abbot, 26l. 13s. 4d.; Ric. Wheteley, prior, John Gadman, Ric. Hawslon, Thos. Bagdhaw, Wm. Smyth, and Robt. Hervy, 5l. 6s. 8d.; John Banks, Geo. Coke, aud Ralph Heryson, 5l. each; John Shemold, Robt. Wilson, and Jas. Chenyholme, 56s. 8d. each; Jas. Clayton and John Bateman, 40s. each; Rob. Jerett, 16s. 8d. g. To Sir Hen. Sacheverell and 11 others, 18l. 13s. 4d. h. To 13 persons, 24l. 11s. 6d. i. 20s.
(8.) Repton, Derb. a. To——(blank) Thacker, 26 Oct. 30 Hen. VIII., 162l. 19s. 6d. (this including an item of 122l. 17s. 6d. "received of John Smyth and Richard Haye for money by them embezzled from the said late priory") b. To the subprior and 8 others 40s. each; and to servants, 15l. 8s. (in 25 items, among them "to 5 men that found certain plate, 25s.," and "a guide from Repton to Gracedieu, 20d.") c. 5l. 7s. 8d. d. 42 oz. of white plate, 4 bells 24 cwt., lead 39 fother. m. l. To Ralph Clarke, subprior, 6l.; John Wood, Thos. Stringar, Jas. Yonge, John Asshby, Thos. Pratt, Thos. Webster, Robt. Warde, Thos. Brauncetoun, and Thos. Cordall, 5l. 6s. 8d. to 4l. each. g. 12 items, 22l. 18s. 8d. i. By Thos. Leason, parson of Castell Ashby, 69l. 10s, and by two others, 6l. 13s. 4d. h. To 18 persons, 631. 13½d.
(9.) Gracedieu, Leic. a. To John Bewman, 28 Oct. 30 Hen. VIII., 125l. 7s. 4d. b. To the prioress, 60s.; to 14 nuns, 30s. each; and to Cecil Bagnal, Isabel Seyton, and Eliz. Slete, "sent to the said late priory," 20s. each, and to 35 servants, 5l. 13s. 4d., also 47s. 6d. to "sundry poor folk having corrodies." c. 6l. 19s. d. Plate 20 oz.; 3 bells 9 cwt.; lead 10 fothers. m. l. To Annes Lytherland, prioress,——(blank), Anne Grasley, sub-prioress, Kath. Chesyleyn, Marg. Powtrell, and Kath. Baker, 40s. each; Eliz. Hall, Dorothy English, Marg. Knottford, Amy Gyllott, Amy Asshby, Emma Michell, Eliz. Prestbury, Joan Barwell, Eliz. Farnham, 33s. 4d. each; Agnes Cosby, 26s. 8d.; and Eliz. Trotter, 40s. g. 10 items, 12l. 3s. 4d. h. 3 items, 12l. 2s. 3d.
(10.) Pypwell, Ntht. a. To Sir Wm. Parre, 6 Nov. 30 Hen. VIII., 121l. 12s. b. To the abbot, 10l.; to 11 of the monks, 50s. each; and to two, 40s. each; and to servants, 44 items, 21l. c. 7l. 4s. 2d. d. 70 oz. gilt and 271 oz. white plate; 5 bells 66 cwt.; and lead 115 fother. m. l. Thos. Gyllm., abbot, 66l. 13s. 4d.; John Baford, Chr. Haryat, Robt. Davy, John Godfrey, Thos. Alyn, John Harcote, Thos. Ball, Thos. Hadley, Thos. Chester, John Bennett, and Thos. Gabitus, 6l. to 5l. each; John Webster and Geo. Wodnett, 26s. 8d. each. g. 17 persons, 25l. 13s. 4d. h, 10 items, 90l. 6s. 4d. i. 5 items, 4l. 7s. 4d. e. 27l., which is accounted for.
(11.) Barnewell, Camb. a. To John Lacy, 7 Oct. (sic) 30 Hen. VIII., 61l. 15s. 2d. b. To the prior, 4l., and 6 monks 40s. each; and to servants, 19 items, including "a boy of the kitchen," "singing boys," "parchment, wax, and ink," and "the Chancellor's man of the University," 8l 5s. 4d. c. 6l. 6s. 1d. d. 32 oz. Gilt and 3 oz. white plate, 109 fother of lead and 6 bells 25cwt. m. John Lacy put in possession 7 Nov. 30 Hen. VIII. l. To Yevon Badcoke, prior, 60l.; Warren Hasshe, Ric. Harnam, Wm. Raynes, Robt. Wisse, Edw. Ball, and Thos. Palmer, 6l. 6s. 8d. to 5l. 6s. 8d. each; also Thos. Raulyns, 11l., and Nich. Smyth, 18l., priors quondam deposed before the dissolution, g. 9 items, 20l. 6s. 8d. h. 19 items, 125l. 5s. 7d. i. By Dr. Lupton, Dr. Heryson, and 36 others, 129l 15s. 6½d.
iii. A memorandum that the plate before mentioned was delivered to John Williams, Master of the King's Jewels, 15 Nov. 30 Hen. VIII. And some concluding memoranda.
Large paper, pp. 101.
840. The First Suppression. (fn. n46)
R.O. Fourteen articles, which seem to be answers to interrogatories charging the Commissioners, receiver and auditor [in Leicestershire at the suppression of the minor monasteries] with irregularities and peculation. The second item is, "Item, to the 2nd article, at the praising of the dyaper and linen was no Commissioner privy, but the receiver and the auditor; and at the praising of the vestments and stuff of the church was present John Beaumont, one of the Commissioners; and at the praising of all other things was no Commissioner privy." It further appears that the abbot of Garradon had plate of great value appointed to him, and every one of the receiver's servants had money. At Olston and Kyrkby, plate which had been conveyed away was found by the King's true subjects, as——(blank) Tompson, and others, but deponent thinks the King is not answered truly thereof. The Commissioners kept two books, took horses, cattle, &c., to their own use without certifying them, &c; and of every man that had a lease they took 6s. 8d. at least, which is contrary to law and grieved the poor men sore.
In a hand like Ric. Pollard's, pp. 3.
R.O. 2. Certificate addressed to Sir Ric. Riche, Chancellor of Augmentations, notifying that Thos. Syeston has a lease from Garradon Abbey, dated ——(blank) 25 Hen. VIII., of Stanton Grange, Leic, which Thos. and Hew Ward keep and occupy although they have had a whole year's warning to avoid the said grange.
15 Nov. 841. Lady Lisle to Lord Lisle.
R.O. Wrote yesterday by Geo. Brown of the Wardrobe, how the King entertained me; but I forgot to tell you that the King wished for you at the banquet; and I answered, you would have been glad to have been there and it would be no little comfort for you to know that he had asked for you. The banquet was the best I ever was at, and was partly made for me. I had not expected it, till Air. Grenway, gentleman usher, met me with a wherry and caused me to land at the privy stairs, where Mr. Hennage received me and conveyed me to my chamber (and there Mr. Comptroller met me), where was a rich bed furnished, and nothing lacking for me nor my folks. The King was very gracious, and both lords (fn. n47) are forbidden to meddle with my son's inheritance. I expected to have spoken with my lord Privy Seal today, but he has sent word by Hussey to put it off till tomorrow. I shall speak to him for the parks and lands in Devonshire, (fn. n48) according to your letters received this day by Byrchaume. Mr. Pollerd has been with me respecting Paynswick I hope soon to despatch my business, for I would fain be with you.. You promised me after my departing you would dine at 10 every day and keep little company because you would mourn for mine absence; but I warrant you I know what rule you keep and company well enough since my departing, and what thought you take for me, whereof you shall hear at my coming home. Desires respects to my lord Controller, my nephew Graynfylde, and his wife. London, 15 Nov. "By her that is more yours than her own, which had much rather die with you there than live here."
Recommendations to Messrs. Rockwood, Fowler, Scryven, Snowden, and others. "I pray you make no man privy to my letter, for this quarrel I make you is but my fantasy."
Pp. 2. Sealed. Add.
15 Nov. 842. John Husee to Lord Lisle.
R.O. This day I received by Byrcham your sundry letters, with one to my lord Privy Seal (and a copy thereof) which I immediately delivered; and he showed me he had despatched, for the payment of Calais, 2,500l., and that to the rest of your letter I should have answer. I moved him again for the Friars: which he says plainly you shall have, but his business must be first something past. Further he willed me cause my Lady to be with him tomorrow by 6 o'clock, where her ladyship is minded to move my Lord concerning the lands and parks in Devonshire (fn. n49) which you write of; "but yet is not known what shall become of the L. M."(lord marquis of Exeter). I trust God has sent my Lady to make speedy despatch in your affairs. Recommends sending a piece or two more of French wine like the last to my lord Privy Seal, for hitherto he has kept the same for his own drinking. "Tomorrow Lambert shall be heard concerning the sacrament, at which reasoning the King shall be in person." London, 15 Nov.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Deputy of Calais. Endd.: Huseis letters of 14 and 15 Nov. Seal good.
15 Nov. 843. John Varney to Cromwell.
R. O. Thanks Cromwell for his goodness in "steing" of his office in Barkhamstede and Langley, and begs its continuance, for he hears Mr. Brian will set in keepers in his said office again, which he may not suffer. Marvels at Mr. Brian doing so again after promising to Cromwell not to trouble the writer more in his office. Is not young and is subject to disease, so that he cannot attend to sue for his own business. 15 Nov. Signed.
P . 1. Add.: Lord Cromwell, High Councillor and lord Privy Seal. Endd.
15 Nov. 844. Wirksop, Worksop, or Radford Priory.
R. O.
Rymer xiv.
Surrender of the priory and all its possessions in cos. Notts., Staff., Derb., Warw., and York, and elsewhere in England, Wales, and the marches thereof. 15 Nov. 30 Hen. VIII. Signed by Thos. Stokkes, prior, Wm. Nutt, subprior, and 14 others [See Deputy Keeper's Eighth Report, App. ii. 50].
Without seal.
Enrolled [Cl. Roll, p. 5, No. 63] without mem. of acknowledgment.
15 Nov. 845. Town of Gravelinghes to Lord Lisle.
R. O. We received yesterday your letters by the bearer and called before us the Commissioners of the Emperor "au fait de la chercherie," who reply that they have only done to the bearer what is reasonable according to the charge given to them by the Emperor. Nevertheless, to maintain good relations we have caused what has been taken from him to be restored. Gravelinghes, 15 Nov. 1538.
Hol., Fr. p. 1. Sealed. Add.
15 Nov. 846. Edmond Harvel to Cromwell.
St. P. viii.
Wrote last on the 25th. Has since heard of the Turk's departure from Moldavia towards Constantinople, where he is expected to be about Christmas. He has taken one of the chief towns from the Caraboldan. King John of Hungary is agreed with the Turk and has given him 300,000 ducats excusing the deed to Ferdinando as done to preserve the country. The king of Poland gives his daughter to the said king John. The Christian navy departed from Corfu on the 24th ult., and took Castelnuovo on the 27th after a great struggle, and several towns thereabout. It is thought the Christians will compel Raguse to pay a great sum of money and desert the Turks. The Christian navy will go to Dirachium and return to Corfu for the winter. Barbarossa and his navy remain at Previsa, but infest the seas so that no ship can enter this Venetian gulf without peril. He lately took five vessels coming from Cyprus and Candia. The Italians and Galiottes in the army have been ill-treated by the Spaniards. The Emperor's daughter, duchess of Florence, has been received at Rome with great feast. The Emperor is expected in Italy by February at furthest, though his Council would have deferred the expedition until he had put things in better order. Lately one Anthony, (fn. n50) once the marquis of Dorset's secretary, and afterwards your Lordship's servant, was here. Learned from him that he had come out of Ireland and asked for cardinal Pole, saying he would go to Rome, but it is said he has returned to Paris. Letters have come from the rector of Corfu mentioning that Barbarossa on the 2nd had passed by with 130 sail going to Vallona, which shows great courage. Venice, 15 Nov. 1538.
Hol. Add.: Lord of the Privy Seal. Endd.
15 Nov. 847.——to Richard Moryson.
"This is 15 November 1538 in Veni[ce].
Vit. B. xiv.
B. M.
"Right worshipful Mr. Moryson, after all due . . . . . . . . . . . you do consider the causes why I have not . . . . . . . . . . . you at Padua afore now written you, be these. . . . . . . . . . that coming into Italy was (as you know) little. . . . . . . . . . wandering, was yet scant settled in Bononye, w. . . . . . . . . . I heard of you, where you were on your way towa[rd England and] since your arrival there, I have known you have been contyn[nally occupied in] things of great moment. Insomuch that presuming. . . . . . . . . . so important occupations, with reading or answering. . . . . . . . . . sure I should seem rather to perturb your enterprise. . . . . . . . . . to do my duty officiously. Also, continuing in Bo[nony, I had] more occasion to investigate and observe things, s[uch as you shall] know hereafter, than great commodity or any surety [for sending] letters. But now, I feared shortly a just expostulation from you] if I should longer defer the duty of one that pretendy[th to be your] friend, other in congratulation of your so manly des . . . . . other in ascertaining you from hence continually such t[hings as I] think you will be content to know. Because y[ou] have finished your occupations, so honourably as . . . . . [persu]adyth and your books declareth, and I am comen to . . . . equal opportunity to hear things, and liberty to "w[rite them]. Moreover, here passed the first of this mouth, one A[nthony,]‡ whose renewing with me acquaintance had afore time in . . . . . . house gave me also one piece of matter for this letter. [I unde]rstod after, that he would to Rome, and was come away. . . . . . . . . . certain money of my lord Privy Seal's, and for certain [other] causes. Insomuch that I thought meet to advertise yo[u thereof], both to give my lord Privy Seal knowledge of this Ant[hony and] for myne own discharge. Because the humanity I had. . . . . . . . . . farther knowledge, was only for the true heart and so. . . . . . . . . . my lord Marquis, because we are also his poor kyn[smen| . . . . not writing afore, or writing now, this I trow. . . . . . . . . . I am sure, ye shall hear many ways how the Christian a[rmy hath won] Castell Novo, but every man will not spend a bez[ant] . . . . . . . . . . retraect as I do. I wished many times you k . . . . . . . . Magci brave, that the Spanish fantarye, ever. . . . . . . . . . galiots of the buttye, and that the * * * . . . tre from a gentleman of Bononye that they are in grea[t . . . . bish]oppe of Rome will make his son el Segnor Pieroluig[i . . . . .e. And at my departing there were sent for to Rome . . . . st heads of Bononye; men knew little then for what . . nd of news I write no more, because I am sure you shall . . . . . with the duke of Urbine's death and other mo, by other . . . . . I cannot but tell you. M. Donato (fn. n51) buyeth still great books [Greek a]nd Latin, that the opinion of unlearned slauder him not when he [shall bec]om bishop. Nevertheless, he joineth as ungraciously as ever [five o]r six Latin phrases, which you know he is wont to despatch in . . . . . . ion, with his other vulgar ware. Of mine ordinary study, . . . . . . y but this, that if I had commodity of one to write, I . . . . . . this have in order, of things but extraordinarily noted these . . . . . . um locorum Dialecticorum cum tabulis, Scholia in epistolam Ciceronis . . . . . . Preceptiunculas de utraque Copia with a little commentary . . . . . . corrupted places of divers authors, or considered or amended . . . . . . owres I go about to describe el governo de la Segnoria di . . . . . . to join to a little thing I made in Bononye of the . . . . . . de la Spagna. Which I know partly by the Inquisidor Generall [of Spai]gnes sonnes information, my familiar in Paris and Bononye, part . . . . . . gathered here and there, out of an history in Spa[nish, which] the King our supreme lord's ambassador (fn. n52) gave me when the [Empero]r was in Florence. Sometime I spend also in reading and . . . . . . to a commentary, where I have ever since my first coming . . . . . . e (that is since the creation of papa Paulo iij.) noted the success [of] notable things in these parts. Which thing as I began [hy]tt in sport, so methinks I find it of more utility [many] weys, than I was ware of. Now and then, I go hear a Greek . . . . com en from Corfu, where he hath lost a great riches by Turks. [Be]caus he was a great man, and hath good knowledge of the . . . . . [th]e Segnoria giveth him provission. When I am weary of all . . . I recreate myself with a little music, as I remember . . . . . (wiselier than I did then understand) you counselled me to do . . . . . . you know of all my doings. There resteth but to tell you . . . . . . for Mr. Lygh, of whom in all things (saving study . . . . . . . . as good company as I could wish. He writeth me . . . . . . . . I have found so fair and honest a house in Venice . . . . . . . . in rio Santa Catherina, a meetly eyros place as you . . . . . . . . lino di Santi. A very spacious house with a . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . over the sea, nor I pay but reas[onably] . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . er Mr. Lygh, that for on * * *."
Mutilated. Add.: To &c. Mr. Richard Moryson, in the Court of England.


  • n1. Warblington and East Meon in Hampshire..
  • n2. Name substituted for John Fow ell.
  • n3. The copy in No. 630 (2 ii.) says "two years." But as the nun vas executed in April 1534, it is evident that a much longer time is intended.
  • n4. See the passage about "the young Marquis," wrongly supposed at the time to be Dorset, in Vol. V., No. 340 (p. 161).
  • n5. Lordington.
  • n6. This abbey, called Anno in Hugh Holland's deposition (p. 310 ante) appears been Alne near Charleroi. See Vol. XII., Part i., No. 1293
  • n7. Supplied from No. 831 ii
  • n8. Roughey near Horsham. See No. 796.
  • n9. Drawn up, apparently after his sixth examination, which was on the 9th and 11th November. See above
  • n10. Does not name himself prior.
  • n11. The citizens of Ragusa
  • n12. Sic in MS
  • n13. This letter is likely to be of an earlier year, but cannot in any case be later, as Paulet became lord St. John in March 1539.
  • n14. Apparently an endorsement made after Lisle's arrest in 1540, when his letters were searched. Cromwell
  • n15. Crossed cat in MS.
  • n16. Here the verso off. 83. begins.
  • n17. "bym" erased; are "yowe" interlined in these two places.
  • n18.
  • n19. f. 84.
  • n20. Crossed out. Perhaps Havant was meant.
  • n21. The whole document is in the handwriting of this witness, whose signature is mutilated: "N. Westme . . . . . "
  • n22. f 85.
  • n23. f. 85b.
  • n24. In margin, After she came to Cowdrey
  • n25. Crossed out.
  • n26. Inserted but crossed out.
  • n27. Originally written "the xij "; corrected "xiij."
  • n28. The date is here lost by mutilation.
  • n29. "Mr. Lawe" in No. 829 i.
  • n30. The papers under this heading constitute only one document, although Arabic figures are used for the larger sections.
  • n31. The mutilations in this continuation are supplied from No. 830 iii
  • n32. No. 830 m. reads "within fornyght after."
  • n33. The -words in brackets are supplied from No. 822 (1 and 2).
  • n34. The mutilations in this deposition have been for the most part supplied from two other copies.
  • n35. This is a further examination, the original of which is dated 13 Nov.
  • n36. Omitted here, and also in the original deposition, No. 830 (3), but supplied in No. 830 (1 ii.).
  • n37. Sir Edward Nevill.
  • n38. These marginal notes to folios are from this point inserted in parentheses in the text.
  • n39. A mutilated interlineation "meaning th . . . . "occurs here.
  • n40. These last two entries are crossed out
  • n41. John Basset.
  • n42. This "g" is now lost. The document seems to have been a little more perfect when Ellis printed it.
  • n43. See No. 838 III
  • n44. Sir Robert Backhouse. See § m
  • n45. Crankston near Pilsbury in the hundred of High Peak. See Valor Eccl. iii. 71.
  • n46. These documents are probably of an earlier date, but may conveniently follow the last.
  • n47. The Earls of Hertford and Bridgwater. See No. 672, and previous references in Part I.
  • n48. Chedam Holt, and Ockyngton. See No. 798.
  • n49. Chedam Holt, and Ockyngton. See No. 798.
  • n50. Anthony Budgegood. See Nos. 416, 433, 694.
  • n51. This is underlined, and Moryson writes (on the flyleaf, "Maister Donato was Pole's host in Venice."
  • n52. Ric. Pate.