Letters and Papers: June 1539, 1-5

Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 14 Part 1, January-July 1539. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1894.

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June 1539

1 June.
R. O.
Along with his letters of the 29th ult., written on the arrival of Cromwell's servant, Thos. Palmer, has received the two prisoners, Ralph Hare and the barber of Marke, who shall be duly examined and, if found guilty, be sent back for punishment. Never took Lisle to be a malicious man, but always thought him "of a good and gentle natural disposition," therefore there was no need to excuse himself. Has always freely remonstrated with him when he saw anything which did not tend to his commodity, as one whose prosperity he greatly desired. As to your conjecture that ill reports are made of your doings, "and that, if you can find no remedy for the same at my hand," you would rather be a prisoner for life, and you will write to the King to that effect; "suspect no man further than needeth, which should trouble yourself and breed some inconvenience amongst you." Let me know your griefs wherein you say I have hitherto failed you, and I will declare them to the King and join with you for the healing of them. If you mistrust me, you may, without any offence to me, seek other remedies. St. James's, 1 June.
Thanks him for the porpoise. The prisoners are committed to the Gate-house. Signed.
P. 1. The last paragraph in Wriothesley's hand. Add.
1 June.
R. O.
Came hither on Whitsun Monday, for 2 or 3 days, and next day learnt there was measles in his house at the Bowre where the Admiral lodged when the King was last there. A child of his daughter Audelais, who was kept in the house, was brought to Tuke's house; and, as there is much measles at the Bowre, he doubts whether, having there no business but what Mr. Northe can do, he should enter the Parliament house. Desires an answer by the bearer who has not been with him at this time. My house beside Havering, Trinity Sunday, 1539.
Hol. p. 1. Add.: Lord Crumwell, lord Privy Seal. Endd.
2 June.
R. O.
Money paid by Sir Bryan Tuke, treasurer of the Chamber, to Sir Thos. Wyatt, late ambassador with the Emperor, for diets and post money from 19 March 28 Hen. VIII. to 2 June 31 Hen. VIII, 3,140l. 3s. 8d. The persons who received the money were Mr. Mantell, Sir John Dudley, Sir Thos. Poynynges, Geo. Blage and Ralph Fane; and the dates and details of 19 separate payments are given.
Certified by Tuke, as being the sums paid to Wyatt until his second return, which was before Michaelmas, 31 Hen. VIII.
Pp. 3. Endd.
2 June.
Wilkins, III.
In this year was published a writ to the abp. of Canterbury, dated 12 March, for the summons of a provincial synod at St. Paul's, London, 2 May. On that day the convocation assembled and was continued through five sessions. On the sixth (2 June) Cromwell proposed to the inferior house certain questions upon which to give their answer the Thursday following. Gives two forms of the questions which were upon (1) transubstantiation, (2) communion in both kinds, (3) marriage of priests, (4) chastity, (5) private masses, (6) auricular confession; and the answers returned (the Six Articles), the substance of which is as follows (1) affirmed; (2) unnecessary; (3) forbidden; (4) to be kept; (5) meet and necessary; and (6) expedient.
After various continuations, in which nothing is believed to have been done, until the 12th session (1 July), the convocation was prorogued by royal writ until 4 Nov., and thence to 16 Jan., and thence to 14 April of the following year.
R. O. 1064. _ to HENRY VIII.
Thinking it the duty of every subject to assist the King's efforts for the advancement of true religion, has drawn up a bill for further reformation of the Church, with the following provisions:—
1. The King to have power to assign to bishops lands necessary for their reasonable finding without superfluity, and to retain the surplus or assign it to other bishops newly to be instituted, or employ it otherwise.
2. The lands of all cathedral churches, "places collegiate," free chapels, chauntries, &c., to be at the King's pleasure.
3. To make enquiry as to, and regulate the lands held and fees exacted by archdeacons, commissaries, and other bishop's officers.
Pp. 6. Endd.: A bill drawn and not put up for the Parliament House.
Six questions similar in purport to those contained in the Act of the Six Articles [31 Hen VIII. c. 14] but in a different order, viz.:—
1. "Whether there be in the sacrament of the altar transubstantiation of the substance of bread and wine into the substance of flesh and blood, or not."
2. "Whether priests may marry by the law of God or not."
3. "Whether the vow of chastity of men and women bindeth by the law of God or not."
4. "Whether auricular confession be necessary by the law of God or not."
5. "Whether private masses may stand with the word of God or not."
6. "Whether it be necessary by the word of God that the sacrament of the altar should be ministered under both kinds or not."
P. 1. Headed, in the same hand, as § 3: "Questions."
R. O. 2. The same questions, with words added in qs. 2 and 3. as in Wilkins, III. 845. With the answer of the clergy of the Lower House, assembled before Dr. Hethe, their prolocutor, who, with only two exceptions, (fn. 1) say they are content to obey and approve all such order and determination as is already made or shall be made by the King and the Bishops.
P. 1.
R. O. 3. Opinions given by the spiritual lords on the above questions.
As to q. 2, the abp. of Canterbury, the bps. of Salisbury, Worcester, Rochester and St. David's, the abbot of Westminster and the abbot of St. Alban's say that priests may lawfully marry; the bp of Ely was not fully resolved. The abp. of York and all the other bps. and abbots opposed it.
A blank left after q. 3. To q. 4, the abp. of Canterbury, the bps. of Ely, Bangor, Salisbury, Worcester, Rochester, Norwich, St. David's, St. Asaph's and Llandaff, and the abbots of Westminster and Gloucester say that they cannot find confession expressly enjoined in the word of God, but they think its use "very requisite and expedient." 5. All agree that private masses may stand with the word of God. 6. The abp. of Canterbury and the abp. of St. David's think it necessary that the sacrament should be ministered under both kinds. The abbot of Westminster thinks it was so ministered at the first institution, but will give no resolute answer till he has studied further. The abp. of York and all the other bps. and abbots think it unnecessary.
Pp. 2.
R. O. 4. A list of divines who have given affirmative and negative answers to some question (evidently the question of accepting the decision of the King and Bishops as above in § 2). Some of these divines appear to have commanded two and some three votes, but most of them only one. The names are:—
Affirmative: Hethe, 2; Skipp, 2; Bell, 3; Gwent, 3; Colyns, 1; Rawson, 1; Grene, 2; Coren, 2; Wilson, 1; Mathew, 1; Bolleyn, 1; Leeson, 3; Griffith, 1; Jonson, 1; Bagh, 1; Witton, 1; Duck, 1; Awdeley, 1; Pollarde, 3; Benett, 1; Pate, 1; Arche, 1; Barloo, 2; Crome, 1; Barker, 1; Fleshmonger, 1; Worthiall, 2; More, 1; Gybbon, 1; Hennege, 3; Robertson, 2; Boone, 1; May, 2; Claxson, 2; Dogeon, 1; Williams, 1; Snede, 1; Strete, 3; Poole, 2; Traves, 1; Edw. Leighton, 1; Sparchford, 1; Lloydd, 2; Henry Morgan, 1; Qwarr, 1; Bulkeley, 1; Birchinshaa, 2; Evans, 2; Runcorn, 1; Wynter, 1; Ryvett, 1; Okyng, 1.
Negative: Levynson, 1; Jo. Taylor, 1; [Okyng] (fn. 2), 1.
All the names have the prefix "Master" or "Mr."
In the same hand as § 2. P. 1. Endd.: Questions of the sacrament of the altar and of other things.
Part of a dialogue between a Master and D. (disciple?) on transubstantiation, in which the former explains the sense in which the body of Christ in the Eucharist may be called "natural" and "corporal."
Pp. 3. Begins: "D. And with no case else but only that. Mr. Yes truly, and that is this.
Ends: to sustain divers displeasures.
R. O. 2. Modern copy of the preceding, with some misreadings.
Pp. 3. Endd. A very inaccurate note of the transcriber says that the original is in "an old hand of Hen. VIII.'s time and somewhat resembling his."
Cleop. E. v.
B. M.
Draft of a treatise upon the Eucharist, advocating the preaching of consubstantiation. Thinks it expedient that this view should be declared before the King and Parliament, and that the King should appoint that the clergy and people should order themselves as Scripture commands, all other newly invented opinions utterly set apart, "and if this be done, it is very like that when a free Catholic council gathered by authority of kings and princes shall come, that they will fully in that point stick fast to the truth of Scripture, as the King's grace and his Parliament do."
Pp. 10. Begins: "He that believeth that God was of power to make heaven and earth.
Cleop. E. v.
B. M.
Strype's Eecl.
Mem. I., II.
No. 100.
R. O.
Brief notes of arguments in favour of the celibacy of the clergy. Beginning:—"Descriptio clerici a Græco secundum Jeronimum." In Henry VIII.'s handwriting.
2. A paper on religious vows, such as those of "monks, friars, secular priests, nuns, widows," &c., insisting on their binding character, except where a dispensation has been granted by "a man's supreme sovereign lord under God, his prince."
Pp. 3, Endd.: De votis et castitate sacerdotum.
2 June.
R. O.
Sends, by Gillam, the saddle and harness that my lord of Hertford gave him. Has laid it in the Spanish skins, of which he sends the scantlyng. Hopes the Spanish skins will please him. The other saddle is ready, but cannot come in this ship, nor is the slophouse ready for it. London, 2 June.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Lord Deputy of Calais.
ii. On a slip of paper enclosed: Will receive by the bearer a saddle with harness and all complete, and a lined slophowsse for the best saddle, packed in canvas.
2 June.
R. O.
You will receive of the bearer, Gilliam, trussed in two ells of coarse canvas three quilts and 16 panes of saye. I have paid the broderer 57s. and 12d. for the canvas and packing. The quails were delivered to Sir Brian Tywcke, who is now in the country. Jas. Robertz's wife made up her number. London, 2 June.
Hol., p. 1. Add.
2 June.
R. O.
On receipt of the King's letter for preparing men to serve his Grace on the sea, he required Robert Lucas, one of his tenants, to do so, who refused to serve under Turvyle. Said, "if he had right he should be hanged," and Lucas answered, "It is no time now for the King to hang men, for if he do he will repent it." Has commanded the said party to prison until Cromwell's pleasure be known. Leicester, 2 June.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Lord Privy Seal. Endd.
2 June.
Add. MS.
11,053, f. 158.
B. M.
1072. FISHERY in the WYE.
Order made by the Commissioners in the Welsh Marches, at Wigmore, 2 June 31 Hen. VIII., between Thos. Fawkener, clk., and others, plaintiffs, and Roger Faryngton and Roger Bynnor, defendants.
Confirming to the defendants, tenants of John Skudmore and of the canons of Hereford, in Home Lacy, a right of fishery in the Wye over against the lordship of Foune Hope; as the King's farmers of that lordship fail to prove an exclusive right of fishery, and the King's patent to John ap Gllm., one of the sewers of the Chamber, of a lease of a mill there, does not express such exclusive right.
Certified copy, p. 1.
3 June.
R. O.
An inhabitant of Dover has informed, 1 June, against John Russell, a Frenchman, for saying to some Picards who bring fish to the town:—"The king of England hath pulled down all the abbeys in England, and he will pull down all the parish churches also"; and further that the King had caused 20 cartloads of gold and silver to be carried from Canterbury to London. We have attached the said Russell, and he confesses it, saying he has often heard it said within the realm. We wrote of it to Mr. Baron Hales who has advised us to inform you. Dover, 3 June.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Sir Thomas Chayne, knight, treasurer of the King's Household and lord Warden of the Five Ports."
4 June.
R. O.
On 4 June 31 Hen. VIII., James Freeston, servant to Thos. Cokkys, of Tylmyston, beside Sandwich, Kent, came before Edw. Felyp, bailiff of Tenterden, John Foules, Edw. Hales, John Parker, John Wode, Thos. Asten, and John Austen, jurates there, and confessed that in August last, when servant to Robt. Sentlyger, of Bylsyngton, Kent, he heard a man, whose name he does not know, but he dwells in Bylsyngton, say to Sentlyger that he knew two or three men of Bylsyngton who said that Sir John Bromfyld, priest, had said unto them in confession "Suffer awhile and ye shall see the Pope in as great authority as ever he was." He saw Sentlyger write the words "and said that he would cause the said priest to be brought to a higher promotion than ever he was."
Large paper, p. 1. Endd.
4 June.
R. O.
I have received your letters, by the bearer and by Grobb, and have delivered Mr. Tylsley's letters, who promises to do his best. He will be tonight at the Tower and anything he finds meet, short or long, will be laid aside and I shall see it in the morning, and send it forthwith, if it seem fit; for two ships here tarry only for wind. I am glad the gentlewoman (fn. 3) pleases you. As for the woman, (fn. 4) [she] was, by your command, staid to go with her; and I wrote that my lady her mother offered to send a man and a woman with her. You will receive by bearer a letter from lady Husee. A bible which she sends you I have delivered to Gylliam. To-day I heard from my lady Suffolk, who wishes the wine delivered to my Lord's place; so I spoke with my Lord who sends commendations and thanks. I have received of Mr. Geo. Rolles 6l. 13s. 4d. You shall be informed by the next how the rent of the parsonage is unpaid, and also of the earl of Waterbryge's (Bridgwater's) last mind. I have received in all 37l. 13s. 4d. Clare demands 40s. for cloth he has put to making for you in Kent, but it will leave me little in hand. I hear nothing of Harryce or of the 20l. I have delivered to Mrs. Anne 20s., and will common with Mr. Mewtas how the matter stands for her board. My lord of Winchester will furnish Mr. James with all necessary apparel, but this year he compounds for the firstfruits.
I hope Kynterdal's maid has by this time arrived at Calais with the spices. I doubt not my lady of Sussex and Mrs. Anne will be good friends ere she depart. I had put the quilts and say on board for Calais, but have taken them out and delivered them to the bearer, Mr. Corbett, who conveys them by land. I have packed with them your kirtle of cloth of gold and your kirtle of crimson velvet with the sleeves. I will do anything you tell me about Mrs. Phillipp or Mrs. Mary. London, 4 June.
There is also packed up a kirtle of white taffeta. I enclose a letter for lady Garnysshe.
Hol., pp. 2. Add.
4 June.
Galba B. x.,
100 ** b.
B. M.
1076. NEWS from ANTWERP.
From "Amthwerp," 4 June 1539.—If his Majesty wants guns, I can have the fairest, lightest, and best possible, made, and if he wants fortresses made I can find the means to bring over the Governor of the Munition of War at Awspowrg for three or four months. All the ships and men of war are discharged. In Allmeyn all the principal captains who served the French king are assembled together, but wherefore is not known. This was written from Awspowrg, 25 ult.
P. 1. In the same hand as Nos. 786, 810, &c.
5 June.
R. O.
C.'s Letters,
The bearer is John Robynson, one of my lord of Wiltshire's servants, whom Cranmer asked Cromwell to take into his service. He daily attends to know Cromwell's pleasure. Lambeth, 5 June. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: Lord Privy Seal. Endd.
5 June.
R. O.
Yesternight, about 6 o'clock, I received at Woborne your Lordship's letters and immediately rode to Toddyngton and apprehended Sir John Mylwarde, "he being already to bedward." I kept him in the town all night and secured his goods and books, which are "a great sort for one such as he is. I have here sent your Lordship certain writings which he desired much to have with him." I thank your Lordship for remembering my suit to the King. Toddyngton, Thursday, 5 June.
Hol., p. 1: Add: Lord Privy Seal. Endd.
5 June.
R. O.
Is so much bound to Wriothesley he can never recompense it. Thanks him not only for his own matter but for his friend the abbot of Osseney. Has sent up Sir John Mylwer, according to my good Lord's letters. As it will be a fortnight before he can be discharged here, will send his brother to wait on Wriothesley. Tuddyngton, Thursday, 5 June.
Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd.
5 June.
R. O.
Received on the 1st inst. a packet of letters from the English ambassador, but could find no bearer till to-day. Has given them to Thomas Coke, merchant, who is going to Rouen. Paris, 5 June 1539.
Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd.
5 June.
Add. MS.
28,591, f. 149.
B. M.
* * * The Nuncio has written that, on his speaking to the Emperor's Council about the remedy for the affairs of England, it was agreed to send two persons, on the part of the Emperor and French king respectively, to the king of England, requesting him to return to the obedience of the Holy See, because otherwise they could not excuse themselves from executing the Pope's commands. The Pope much pleased thereat. Venice and the Turk. Rome, 5 June 1539.
Spanish. Modern copy from Simancas, pp. 5. See Spanish Calendar, VI. i., No. 66.


  • 1. Originally written "three," but altered, in the same hand, to "two."
  • 2. Cancelled and inserted at the end of the "affirmatives."
  • 3. Lord Hussey's daughter.
  • 4. Nicholas' wife. See Nos. 1004, 1014, &c.