Letters and Papers: June 1539, 16-20

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Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 14 Part 1, January-July 1539. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1894.

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June 1539

16 June.
R. O.
Received your letter of the 11th, by Mr. Massingberd, and another of the 13th by Watteys. Glad you have received the saddles, but you say nothing of the skins, nor what money you will have of my lord Admiral for Porchester and Beare. Wrote on the 9th enclosing a letter from my lord Privy Seal touching the sending over of witnesses against Ralph Hare and others. You never make thorough answer to my letters, nor have you told me your pleasure touching the offer of one Goslyng, who has a farm in Sussex, near the sea, to furnish you with wood and beef. Trusts that Sir Geo. Carew's purpose will take small effect. When the matter is decided, it will not be found so grievous as he would make it. I hope you will be taken in no more such traps. I do not understand your writing by Watteys that you are "discharged of the letter sent by Mr. Massingberd." Hears nothing of 10 doz. quails for Mr. Pollard. Wrote you the news by Mr Wriothesley's servant. It is thought the King will go to Windsor, and not much leave those quarters. Mr. Polstede says his master (Cromwell) will go through for Paynswick, which only waits your coming over. Will write when the Parliament breaks up. London, 16 June.
Hol., pp. 2. Add.
16 June.
R. O.
I have received your sundry letters and am glad all things have come to your hands. For the carpets there is no remedy, for they will not be sold, but Mr. Tyldesley promises if any are you shall know. I hear nothing of Ric. Harryce or the 20l. Clare had the 40s. of me before you last came, else he should have had none of me, yet he made not a little ado for it, applying several times both in your name and my Lord's. My lord of Winchester will no doubt use Mr. James as appertaineth. The King seems to be yet at no point with Mr. Mewtas for Mrs. Anne's board, but no doubt he will recompense it one way or other. I have been twice at Mrs. Dynnes (Denny's) house to deliver your token but could not speak with her, which I will do before I deliver it. I am sure it is because lady Suffolk is so far off that she does not send you a token. I fear Mrs. Mary's preferment will not take place where you intend, (fn. 1) for one or two gentlewomen of elder years have applied and the King answered he would have none so young about those persons, but only ancient and sad persons. But I will write to you Mrs. Denny's opinion. I will answer the rest of your letter by Tyms in five days. I hear nothing of Lyngham or the potycary. I think the good Earl (Bridgwater) would gladly have money, but Tubb says it will not be "wayde" (weighed ?) under 1,000l., which would be too much. As for Soberton and the brewing vessels I will follow my Lord's commands on coming thither. London, 16 June.
Hol., p. 1. Add.
16 June.
R. O.
Thanks her for her letters and for six dozen quails, of which six or seven died at sea. Is ashamed to have so many dainties daily sent him by her and lord Lisle and to send nothing in recompense. Thanks them again for the French wine. There is no better of that sort this year in England. Has been this Whitsuntide in Essex, where he has drunk of it with some ladies, gentlewomen, and gentlemen, but he makes no "lavasse" of it, but cherishes it as a cup of wine, which will last him all this summer. London, 16 June 1539.
"My poor daughters being all in Essex, preparing clouts for my daughter Audelai's very great belly, humbly recommend them unto your good Ladyship."
Hol., p. 1. Add.
16 June.
Vatican MS.
Note that in Consistory, 16 June 1539, the Pope appointed Roger (fn. 2) to the church of Dromore in Ireland, void by the death of Quintin, with retention of all things.
Also Eugenius, (fn. 3) archdeacon of Down, to the united churches of Down and Connor, void by the death of Tiberius, with retention of his archdeaconry for six months, and the rest of his benefices for life.
Also Richard, (fn. 4) of the Order of Friars Minors, to the church of "Chronensis," void by the death of Quintin, with the administration of the church of "Claonensis," void by the death of Theodoric.
Also Hubert Iseranesis, (fn. 5) monk of the Order (sic) of St. john the Evangelist, "de Felcardi monte," of the Cistercian Order, Rouen dioc., to the church of Elphyn in Ireland, void by the resignation of Lewis Carnus. elect of Glandève (Glandatensis) to whom that (qu. the monastery of St. John ?) is commended at the French king's nomination.
Latin. From a modern transcript in R. O.
17 June.
Vesp. C. XIV.
B. M.
Nott's Wyatt,
Money received by him and his agents from Sir Brian Tuke, treasurer of the Chamber, for diets, post-money, &c., from 12 March 28 Hen. VIII., 3,090l. 3s.
Whereof for his diets at 41s. a day from 10 March [28 Hen. VIII.] to 1 April 29 Hen. VIII., 795l. 8s.; from 2 April 29 to 1 April 30 Hen. VIII. at 53s. 4d. a day, 988l. 15s.; from 31 March eodem anno till 17 June following 211l. 18s. "Sum of my diets the space I was in the King's service," 1,99[6]l ... (mutilated).
ii. Account of post money since the beginning of his embassy:—To a servant of my lord of Winchester to ride to his master, from Paris 10 April, with the tidings of Mr. Poole, 12 ducats=3l. (fn. 6) To one that carried a letter from me to my lord of Winchester from Paris, 12 April, 5s. For post money for himself and one with him from Saragossa to Valladolid, 4 June, 36 ducats. To Barth. Rougecroix, for a despatch to the King from Valladolid, 23 June, 120 ducats. To Anderson, 30 June, for a despatch from Valladolid to the King by sea, 140 ducats. To Mr. Mason, for a despatch from Montezon to the King, 16 Oct., 160 ducats. To Mr. Mantell, 26 Oct., 27 (sic) Hen. VIII., for a desp. from Barbastra in Arragon to the King by land, 160 ducats. To Bartilmewe the herald, "that he borrowed to come into Arragon," 20 ducats. To Peter Rede, despatched from Barcelona, 18 Jan. last, 100 ducats. Barth. Rougecroix, from Barcelona, 7 Feb. last, 100 ducats. To Mr. Blage, sent from Barcelona, 14 March, 120 duc. For post money for himself and others (5 post horses) from Saragossa to Valladolid, 40 duc. The like from Villa Franca near Nice to the King, 100l. The like for his return from the King to the Emperor at Nice, 100l. To Nich. le Pelle, to seek Mr. Bryan from Valence to Avignyon and his return, 5 July, 20 duc. To the same, "to go to Marseilles from Avignon and upon the sea coast to enquire for the Emperor," 20 duc. For hire of a bark "to go to seek the Emperor from Aques Mortis to the Isles of Heres," 30 duc. To the said Nycholas, "for a despatch from Acques Mortis to the King the _" (date blank), 100 duc. To Geo. Rowce despatched from Barcelona 40 duc. To Copyni, the courier, 6 Sept., for a packet to Mr. Hutton, 5l. To Mr Mason, 19 Sept, for a desp. with Nicholas the courier, 200 duc. To Nycholas le Pelle 9 Nov. 1538, for a desp. from Toledo to the King, 120 duc. Post despatched from Toledo to the ambassador of France (fn. 7) with a packet of letters to be conveyed to the King, 15 Jan. 30 Hen. VIII., 7l. Mr. Blage, desp. with a packet to the King from Toledo, 24 Jan. same year, 50l. Nic. le Pelle, desp. with a packet to the King, 14 Feb. 30 Hen. VIII. 120 duc. A merchant's courier despatched with letters to the King, 23 March, 30 duc. Nic. le Pelle sent with a packet to the King, 30 March, 120 duc. Rob. Rudstone, despatched with a packet to the King from Toledo, 23 Feb., 140 duc. To the merchant's courier despatched with letters to the King, 7 April, 30 duc. To Francis the King's courier, despatched with letters to the King, 1 May 31 Hen. VIII., 120 duc. For his own coming from Toledo with 6 post horses, 3 June, Ao dicto, 200l. Total post money, 987l. 5s.
"Memorandum, for my train coming after both by sea and by land, after I was out of wages, whatsoever it shall please your lordship to appoint."
Total of diets and post money, 2,983l. 8s. 4d.
"So remaineth in my hands, 106l. 15s. 4d."
Pp. 4.
17 June.
R. O.
The work you bid me do is completed and I would have sent it by the bearer, if he would have answered for the remainder, as you and I have had no direct intercourse. Sends an account of plate received from Fowler, by Jande Lacher, valued in Flemish money at 30½ pataerz the ounce, amounting to 68l. 2s 8d. gr., against which the manufactured article at 35 pataerz, amounts to 82l. 5s. 9d. gr. Requests him to send some one with the balance to receive the completed work. Bruges, 17 June 1539.
Fr., Hol., p. 1. Add.: Maistre Thomas Foullaert, marchant a Calays.
R. O. 2. Account of the weight of certain flagons and goblets, amounting in all to 267½ oz.
P. 1. On the back is the following memorandum: 28 Junii 31 Hen. VIII. Mr. Fouller paid John Lacher's son 18l. 17s. 1d., Flemish, amounting to 108 permosans, and the said Lacher gave him again 11d F1.
P. 1.
18 June.
Cleop. E. IV.
B. M.
of the
Ellis, 1 Ser. ii.
Is compelled to write, not being so bold as to appear before his Lordship until his pleasure is known. This last Lent not only wrote to [Cromwell] but was admitted to his presence, suing for service. Now his suit is different. Desires the King's pardon because he, being a priest, has married. Wishes the King could have found it lawful for priests to marry; they would have been to the Crown doubly faithful, first in love, and secondly for fear of the bp. of Rome. But as the King has established a contrary order, "that all priests shall be separate by a day," has sent the woman to her friends three score miles from him and resorted hither to desire the King's pardon. 18 June.
Hol., p. 1.
18 June.
R. O.
On Sunday "was sevennight," the 8th June, divers men of Copforde came before me complaining that a French priest, parish priest of their town, had not put forth the bp. of Rome's name in his "portns" and "antiphonar." I sent to Mr. Tey, a J.P. near them, for it was far from me, and he has taken sureties for their appearance. Further, these poor men will certify your Lordship of the whole matter. Tolleshunt Darcy, 18th "of this present month." Signed.
P. 1. Add.: Privy Seal. Endd.: "18 June."
18 June.
R. O.
His wife is greatly encouraged by Cromwell's comfortable words. The writings appertaining to her suit are of small effect unless the King shows his gracious favour, and the matter is more intricate than she can plainly declare, or than he wished her to know for fear of discomforting her, for she hopes to have more interest for her jointure thereby than indeed she has. Will wait on Cromwell himself and declare the whole matter. Is fatherless, motherless, and friendless, unless the King is good to him. His wife also is fatherless and motherless. Hopes for some comfort and help for the wealth of his poor children. Lordyng, 18 June.
Hol., pp. 2. Add.: Lord Privy Seal. Endd.
18 June.
R. O.
I wrote to you six days ago when you were at Guines Castle. My man returned without an answer. The bailly of Guines told him you had no leisure to write, but that you would send a reply by Saturday night last; but I have had none yet. Gravelinghes Castle, 18 June '39.
Would like a mastiff (doghe) if Lisle has one to spare that is good and tractable.
Fr., p. 1. Add.
18 June.
R. O.
The King writes to the king of England touching the affair of the Sieur de la Rochepot, brother of Montmorency; also to Norfolk and the lord Privy Seal. The bearer (fn. 8) is sent with instructions on the subject. Marillac well knows the importance of having this affair sent back to be determined here. Paris, 18 June.
Modern transcript, p. 1. French.
See abstract in Kaulek, 104.
19 June.
R. O.
Received his letter by Sandys. Learns by it that the Commissary and parish priest (fn. 9) are come over; also the witnesses concerning Ralph Hare. Trusts thereby the good will be known from the ill. Expects some will be examined today before the King's Council, and some before the bishops. The distinction will be made between offences committed before and after the proclamation. It is expected that Parliament will be dissolved on Friday or Saturday. Has written frequently. Expects Mr. Wyndsor here on Monday next. London, 19 June. Signature torn off.
Hol., p. 1. Sealed. Add.
19 June.
R. O.
I have today received your ladyship's letter of Malpas, and also the sleeves, about which I will do my best, with the borderer's advice, but the pattern is no use. I do not yet know the full determination of your ladyship's other affairs, but trust to learn by tommorrow night. The draper is not content, and I fear when need is we shall lack what is desired. I hear nothing of the 10 dozen quails my lord writes he has sent to Mr. Pollerd. London, 19 June.
Hol., p. 1. Add.
19 June.
R. O.
Marvels that he hears nothing from him or Mr. Popeley, considering the goodness of my lord their master for his preferment. If he had not trusted in them as solicitors, would not have departed till he had sped or not sped, for it is costly going to and fro, specially for him, having but a groat a day and seven mouths to find. Asks one of them to write to him. "My Gossopp Wall" says Flecton says he has paid Thacker and has his quittance. He marvels Thacker does not write. 19 June.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: servant to Lord Privy Seal, at the Rolls
19 June.
R. O.
The abbot of York has refused me the farm of his parsonage of Hornse in Holderness, notwithstanding your lordship's letters. I beg you will move him yourself for the same; and also write to thank Mr. Maugnus who accomplished your request. As I hear all the lands that were lady Salisbury's will come to the King, I beg you will get me the manor of Cottyngam, at the rent it has gone heretofore of 45l. 11s. Further, please get me the demesnes of Nunkeyllynge in Holderness, at the rent of 21l. 12s. 4d., as your lordship encouraged me to write to you when I was last with you. York, 19 June. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add.: Lord Privy Seal. Endd.
19 June.
R. O.
Sends the bearer (fn. 10) to obtain an answer concerning a prize taken by a ship belonging to the Sieur de la Rochepot, of which the French ambassador has no doubt already spoken. The matter does not concern Henry or his subjects, and Rochepot's claim for the "renvoy" appears good. Paris, 19 June 1539. Signed.
Fr., p. 1. Sealed. Add. Endd.
19 June.
Kaulek, 104.
The gentleman* he sends to the king of England about the affair of the Sieur de la Rochepot will give Marillac a copy of the letter he carries. He shall make every effort to get the cognizance of the affair remitted to France, as it concerns neither the king of England nor his subjects. paris, 19 June 1539.
French. Two modern transcripts, pp. 2, each.
* A modern transcript is in R. O.
20 June.
R. O.
Kaulek, 105.
This King asks that a merchant of Brittany, of whom one of his household has bought, and paid for, some sails, may be authorised to despatch them hither. It appears they are but 101 pieces of "holones" for making sails, and worth only 200 or 300 crs. Wrote in his last of the state of religion, and about the fortifications. This King proposes to go and see his country of the North after Parliament ends at St. John's tide. London, 20 June 1539.
French. Two modern transcripts, pp. 2 each.
20 June.
R. O.
Kaulek, 105.
Nothing new since the 9th. Begs him to obtain the despatch of the sails of Brittany, as the Flemings have gratified this King in a much greater matter. (fn. 11) The day before yesterday there was made on the river here, in presence of the King, a game of poor grace, much less invention, of two galleys, one carrying the King's arms, the other the Pope's with several cardinals' hats (as he was told, for he would have deemed it contrary to duty to be a spectator). The galleys fought a long time, and ultimately those of the King were victorious, and threw the Pope and cardinals and their arms into the water, to show people that this King will entirely confound and abolish the power of the Holy Father. They continue to cart artillery and to fortify places; and when Parliament finishes the King will go 200 or 300 miles north, whither Marillac will follow him. London, 20 June.
French. Two modern transcripts, pp. 2, each.
20 June.
Add. MS.
28,591, f. 152.
B. M.
The Turk and the Venetians, the enterprise, &c. Affairs of Germany. The "medios fructos," cardinalate for the bp. of Geneva, and dispensation of the comendadors. Has full and confidential communication with the French ambassador. Hears that the Emperor (fn. 12) has communicated to him the commission which the Cardinal (Farnese) brought, to speak of the matrimony with the French king's daughter, and to treat and resolve the affair of England, so that what is to be done may be settled by consent of all three. * * * Rome, 20 June 1539.
Spanish. Modern copy from Simancas, pp. 24. See Spanish Calendar VI., I., No. 67.


  • 1. In the Princess Elizabeth's household. See No. 1145.
  • 2. Roger Macciadh, according to Brady (The Episcopal Succession, I. 299), his predecessor's name being Quintin Cogly.
  • 3. Eugene Magenis.—Brady, I. 263.
  • 4. Richard Hogan "provided" 16 June to the bpric. of Clonmacnoise (Cluanensis), on the death of Quintin Jegyn.-Brady I. 245. And on the same day he was given the administration of Killaloe (Laonensis).—Ib. II. 117.
  • 5. Humbert Isseran, a Benedictine, according to the Gallia Christiana (XI. 305) was abbot of Foucarmont (Fulcardi Mons) in the diocese of Rouen, a Cistercian Abbey dedicated to St. Mary and St. John Evangelist. His promotion to Elphin is not mentioned elsewhere and seems to be a mistake, for it is said that he was promoted to the see of Glandève which was ceded to him by "Ludovicus de Charny."
  • 6. The sums in ducats are also given in sterling money throughout, always at the rate of 5s. to the ducat.
  • 7. Meaning the English ambassador in France, i.e., Bonner.
  • 8. The Sieur d'Ampont.
  • 9. William Smith.
  • 10. The Sieur d'Ampont.
  • 11. From here this letter is printed by Ribier as a part of the letter to Montmorency of the 9th June. See No. 1092.
  • 12. Gayangos makes it "his Holiness;" but the original Spanish reads (according to the B.M. transcript):—"He sabido que v. M. le ha comunicado la comission," &c.