Letters and Papers: June 1539, 21-25

Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 14 Part 1, January-July 1539. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1894.

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June 1539

21 June.
R. O.
Has received his letter, dated 16 June, by Edward Malpas. Will be a right champion in the matter. Has delivered to the King a book concerning the misbehaviour and disobedience of many persons in Calais. The Commissary and the parish priest of Our Lady Church are prisoners in the Fleet. Thinks more will be sent for shortly, for an Act is passed which will set every true Christian in a good quietness concerning the Sacrament of the Altar, shrift and housel, and for calling in erroneous books against any part of the said Act. Advises him to send to Sir Antony Browne, my lords of Norfolk or Hertford, evidence against the persons here. Hopes Parliament will be prorogued in four days, and will then prepare homeward. London, 21 June.
Asks him to show this letter to my lord Chamberlain, Wallop, Mr. Porter, and Mr. Treasurer, for he has no time to write to each, "for all you do take to be as one."
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Deputy of Calais.
[21] June.
R. O.
It is showed me that you are put to some cumbrance by Mr. Knevet that hath married your wife's daughter. I trust my daughter, your wife, will declare herself, and you shall find me the same as ever towards you. You have already my hand and my seal, which I think is sufficient; if not, devise what more assurance may be done for you and your children, and I will do it. I will send shortly for such things as I must have against the King's coming into this country; I pray you take some pains for me. Trotton, Saturday before Midsummer Day. Signed.
P. 1. Add.
21 June.
R. O.
The king of France has written to the king of England in favour of Mons. de la Rochepot, his brother, asking that the affair of the captured ship, of which no doubt Cromwell has often heard, may be remitted to him to whom the cognizance of it rightly belongs. He sends this gentleman (fn. 1) because nothing has hitherto been done in the matter. Asks Cromwell to help, as it is a rightful cause. Paris, 21 June. Signed.
Fr., p. 1. Add.: Privy Seal.
R. O. 2. English translation of the above.
In Soulemont's hand, p. 1. Endd.: The Constable of France to my Lord.
21 June.
Poli Epp.,
II. cclxxxi
21 June, from Toledo.
Wrote on the 19th what passed from the time he left Barcelona until the first meeting with His Majesty. Describes how yesterday he visited the Prince, and afterwards, accompanied by the duke of Alva and the bp. of Coria, went to the Emperor at the monastery of the Sisa. Spoke with the Emperor alone in presence of the Nuncio and M. Marcello, and declared the rest of his commission, i.e., the perfection of the peace, the affairs of England and the Council, and business of Germany.
Describes his arguments in favour of peace, viz. that it would make the enterprise against the Turk stronger, and that, if they had had peace, the Venetians would not have detached themselves from the league (here referring to what Gio. Montepulciano wrote to M. Durante from Venice, 29 May); and that the Pope, on his own account, because of Parma and Piacenza, and that of his house, would prefer to have the Emperor in Milan. Said then that, by letters of Mons. d'Ivrea, nuncio in France, and by report of M. Latino and M. Chno (Christofero ?), secretary of the Constable, the Pope heard that the French King approved the Emperor's opinion about first sending persons to England to protest; and that he was sent to solicit the despatch [of them], so that if the bull and the censures were not executed, no further injury might be inflicted on the Holy See. Lastly, said he had letters since leaving Rome that the Council was deferred, as advised by the Emperor and the king of the Romans, who expected much good from the next diet at Nuremberg.
The Emperor replied, it was unnecessary that the Pope should remind him of a work he so much desired as the perfection of peace. As to the marriage suggested, (fn. 2) he was old, and one who has daughters to marry would scarcely give them to one of his age. Then he has a son and daughters, and ought to think of them rather than himself. There were other means than this for perfection of peace with France. As to the withdrawal of the Venetians he did not believe they had shown so little regard for his Holiness and himself, and until the truth was known it would not look well to take offence.
As to England, he replied that the Nuncio already knew his view, which was to send the persons to protest (li protestanti); but, for the reputation of the business, Card. Pole must go to treat it with the French king as he had done with the Emperor. Farnesc answered that certainly the Pope had intended Pole to go also to France, but that since, for fear of his life (knowing how many snares the king of England lays for him) he had stopped at Carpentras, and having sent the abbot of San Saluto to the king of France, had received an answer there on the matter which he was negociating, it remained only to order these protestanti to go, &c. The Emperor replied that was not enough, because the French king might ingratiate himself with the king of England by saying he had refused to receive Card. Pole, for few knew he stopped at Carpentras for fear of his life; but Farnese might discuss it with the ministers, and the Emperor would then make a further answer.
Further discussion with the Emperor upon the prorogation of the Council and the affairs of Germany. The bp. of Lunden is here. The duke of Bransuich, who came with the Bishop, departed again almost at once. M. Adam Centurione made a mistake from the similarity of the name when he said, at Barcelona, he had heard that the archbishop of London and the duke of Bransuich had come from the king of England. England has not sent any other than the ordinary ambassador as yet. The Emperor says the Duke came about German affairs; also that, having six months to accept or not the suspension of 15 months which has been made at Francfort, he would not decide until the end of the term.
21 June.
Poli Epp.,
II. ccxciii.
21 June, Toledo.
I arrived at Toledo on the 16th, and had letters from Rome on the 17th, signifying that you had orders again, as to going to France, to follow my commission. I visited the Emperor on the 18th and 20th. His Majesty's fixed opinion is that you should go to the king of France "come ostata da lei." (fn. 3) I replied that since you had not gone the first time you could not now be sent to discuss that upon which the King had already given us his resolution, i.e., as to sending the protestanti to England; adding that if you heard from Mons. de Ivrea that you could freely go to that Court, you would satisfy the Emperor at all risks. I was referred to the ministers, with whom I have not yet concluded. I hope shortly on my return to speak with you at Avignon. Commendations to Card. Sadolet.
22 June.
R. O.
I have made your commendations to Mr. Pollard; but the quails are not come, though my lady wrote me that I should have 10 dozen by Gillam, who received none. The Commissary, parish priest, (fn. 4) Ralph Hare, and the Fleming, (fn. 5) prisoners, were brought before the Council last Thursday afternoon. No one was admitted. The Commissary and the "perelous" priest were committed to the Fleet; the other two to the Gatehouse. One of them has put up a bill against you to the Council:—I think it is Hare, but I am not sure. It was with their whole consent. I trust you will be able to answer at any time what is laid to your charge. They boast that my lord Chamberlain and Mr. Wallop have set you a-work and will leave you in the briars when you most trust them. However the matter shall end, they bear a good "braugg," especially the Commissary. Will be in hand with my lord Admiral. The man (fn. 6) who offered to serve you in wood and beef will not meddle unless he may do both. For Paynswick there is no stay, except for your licence to come over, which will be had if the King goes into Kent. Mr. Marshal's licence was obtained today, viz., a letter from my lord Privy Seal. Has never heard of Mr. Bonham since Shoryer was here. Mr. Wyndsor will be here on Monday, when I will be in hand with him for the wheat and kettle. The ships are set at liberty and the merchants may trade where they will. The King's navy is discharged, except his own ships which are at Portsmouth, where they will remain till the King comes. Those in the Temps shall remain here still. On Monday or Wednesday the Parliament will be prorogued. When the statutes touching the Sacraments are published I think men will not be so liberal in preaching as they have been. As for Lisle's statement that if he came over he could show the King and lord Privy Seal reforms for bettering the town, thinks he should advertise the King of them whilst the lords of the Council are here. London, 22 June.
No solemn watch will be held in the city this year on Midsummer night, at which some of the citizens of London are not a little dissatisfied.
Hol., pp. 2. Add.
I have received your sundry letters and the last by Gillam, with the carpet, which I will cause to be scoured if I can find any man in this city to do it. Gilliam denies having received the 10 doz. quails of which you write, so that Mr. Pollard is not like to be served at this time. You wrote to Mrs. Anne that I should have given her 40s. and was allowed for it, but I never wrote that I delivered her more than 20s. I do not think it is so charged in my last account of 37l. 13s. 4d. I am sorry that she should think from your writing to her that I dealt craftily with her. I spoke to my lord of Hertford according to your former writing. He said he remembered the matter very well; the gentleman was now in the country, but he would see him this summer and communicate with him about your purpose, and you should know his advice at the King's return from his progress, and further that the gentleman would be here himself next term.
I spoke also to the duke of Suffolk, who said that his wife was in Lincolnshire, and he was riding thitherwards, and would consult with her and give you such an answer as you should be pleased with. He said also that her Grace would be here before All Hallowtide, "and till then should be no time to send her."
Mrs. Denny thanks you for your token and sends a gold cramp-ring. I moved the matter concerning my lady Elizabeth. She answered that suit was made for Mrs. Hill, and the King answered that she should no more, for my lady Garrett's daughter was lately admitted, so that her Grace was full furnished, and he said she had too much "uthe" (youth) about her. However, Mrs. Denny offered, if you would, to move Mr. Denny to speak to the King, but she thinks the matter will take none effect, for divers have had nay in like suit. I spoke to Mr. Mewtas concerning Mrs. Anne's board and charges. He answered that she was there at the King's setting, and that all that he had was of the King. I think they look for some pleasure. As the King set her there, I know the charge will be requited, yet some remembrance may not be forgotten. To have Mrs. P. there, I think will not be brought to pass, for I think if the other had not been assigned to them by the King, they would scant have received her. Mr. Parcus is rid westward 10 days since, so that I return his letter. As soon as I can get money, I will see the apothecary paid. If your had letter come in season, I would never have moved Mrs. Denny. I know unless further suit be made, she will never make motion of it. The earl of Waterbridge is gone home. I trust he will not return till I send for him. He says plainly he will not meddle under 2,000 marks. You shall not need to attempt buying any carpets out of the Wardrobe. There is no good to be done till the view be taken, which passeth not once in 30 years, and then the lord Chamberlain and the head officers have the best stuff, and the worst remain for the mean and inferior officers. I have received 6l. 13s. 4d. from Mr. Rolles, and 3l. 6s. 8d. for my annuity. Mr. Wyndesor will be here on Monday next. I will then be in hand with him for the wheat and the kettle. I think he has no letter of the grant, so that the matter will be "easelyer" stayed.
Now you know the answer of all your former letters, you may dispose the piece of French wine as you think most convenient. You need not fear my making any offer to Mr. Mewtas or any other without your assent. In the latter end of my reckoning I put the cost of wine. I sent it to your ladyship and not to my lord.
Hol., pp. 2.
22 June.
R. O.
I have been at Callys and fully furnished my room. My lord Deputy and the Council will not fail to do your lordship's commandment. The King's works at Callys, Rycebanke, Newnome Bryge, Hames and Gynnys are well forwards. As for victuals, there is not wheat enough to last till new come in, nor malt to last three weeks, and very little wood. Provision for half a year were little enough. If there went not so much to Flanders, Callys should be victualled well enough; there were seven or eight English ships at Newporte and Dounkyrke when I was at Calais. One Thomas Lounde, of Sandwich, laded a ship in Sandwich haven. 12 June last, with 100 "semes" of malt and 30 "semes" of wheat, to be delivered at Calais, but sent it straight to Dunkirk and came himself to Calais, where I have had him arrested till his ship comes. When I speak with your Lordship I shall show more. The Dounes, 22 June. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add.: Lord Privy Seal. Endd.
22 June.
R. O.
Enclosing a letter he received, 17 June, out of Bretyn, from John Gurney. The day before its receipt, his ship left for Biskey. Has sent in it a trusty friend who, with the master, promises to fulfil Cromwell's pleasure, if they can "make their party good, or else not to meddle." John Wynter has showed him Cromwell will write to Bristol shortly. Bristowe, 22 June. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: Lord Privy Seal. Endd.
22 June.
Poli. Epp., II.
Was glad to hear by his letters, of the 8th instant, that they were all well. Is well himself and enjoying the beautiful palace of the Card. of Carpi. The summer is only beginning to be warm. Will pray God to provide for his afflicted Church and to direct Pole.
What Pole learnt from the Nuncio in Spain and from Card. Farnese was heard here rather later. Conjectures the same thing himself that Pole seems to insinuate. As to himself, though he would deem it arrogant and rash to seek such additional dangers, yet he should think it impious to refuse that which is offered, for fear of his life. Commendations to Sadolet and the two Pauls. Rome, 22 June, 1539.
Italian and Latin.
Poli Epp., II.,
Da Toledo alli _ (blank) Giugno 1539.
Arrived at Baja (sic) on the 16th as he has writtenby his three other letters of the 19th and 21st, and next day arrived letters from M. Durante, of the 4th. Sees the Pope's wish for him to return as soon as possible and hopes to set out in the beginning of July. The "mezzi frutti." Others who came on the same mission as he, as M. de Brisac, the master of the Queen of France's household, and the Duke of Brunswick, did not stay long. The Emperor will leave on the 25th for Madrid.
As to England we are about finding a way, if possible, that these protestanti may go and that Card. Pole may go to the Court of France, but I doubt it will be difficult, for the Nuncio has sounded Granvelle upon the Emperor's opinion, which is that, though the protestanti might be sent, his Majesty will not break with England until the affairs of Germany are settled. Let the King of France do as he likes, and when once the affairs of Germany are settled, even if the French King will not concur, the Emperor alone will fully avenge the Holy See and himself. I write to Pole that I shall soon be with him and communicate what has been done.
23 June.
R. O.
Your Ladyship wrote to me, in Lent last, for a French Bible, which I bought and sent you by Mr. Style, a merchant, who said he delivered it to a servant of yours of Rouen. I have written several times to know if you have received it. If I knew you had not I would send you another. It cost 30 cr. Paris, St. John's Eve, 1539.
Hol., p. 1, Add. At Calais.
24 June.
R. O.
1151. The SUBSIDY.
Account of moneys remaining in the hands of the collectors of the lay 15th and 10th, granted 26 Henry VIII., at the Feast of St. John Baptist, 31 Henry VIII. In different counties and towns. Total 3,406l. 4s. 5½d.
Pp. 3, mutilated.
24 June.
R. O.
According to your commandment and Mr. Wallop's I have declared your message to my lord Winchester, concerning Broke, who has made the answer ensuing. 1. Touching the motion made by him in Parliament, against the Sacrament; my lord says that he, being a burgess there, might well declare his opinion. Nevertheless, he was then immediately and fully answered by Sir Wm. Kyngston, comptroller of the King's household, who said that if he doubted about the Sacrament of the Altar, he should show his opinion to the King's Council after 12 July next, (fn. 7) and then he would receive an answer to every article. 2. As to further examination, whether his motion in Parliament proceeded of his own mind or of the instigation of others; my lord says there is no doubt he will be more strictly examined than he has been before his departure out of the city, both touching his motion and his supporters. Of this, my lord of Winchester desired me to inform you and Sir John Wallop. I have delivered your letter to the bp. of Norwich, who thereupon was very good lord to me, and I showed him the trouble you had sustained by the Commissary and other obstinate persons on account of their erroneous opinions. He said they have denied all that is objected against them. I showed him that your lordship had sent hither witnesses to prove the said matters and also the depositions of very honest men taken at Calais. To this he gave me no answer, but commanded me to wait upon him again to-morrow, which I will do. London, Midsummer Day.
Hol., pp. 2, Add.: Deputy of Calais.
Trusts that he and his wife, "my child, Thomas Penryd," John Rowsse and all other good fellows are in good health. Mr. Commissary and the parish priest (fn. 8) are discharged of all their troublous charges and will shortly return to Calais with small honesty to them that caused their troubles. The Prior of Friars, (fn. 9) Sir Edmond, (fn. 10) "and Swete Lyppys my Lady capplyn," with others, will repent this business. Sir Edmonde, by the report of my lord Privy Seal, is as naughty a knave as liveth. This was reported before the duke of Suffolk, the bishop of Durham, the earl of Oxford, and others of the Council, at the first examination of Mr. Commissary, the parish priest and Ralph Hare, which Ralph, he doubts not, will do well. Parliament is not prorogued. Some of the articles that were passed, of which he spoke when in Calais, will be called in again. Asks him to tell Thos. Pendrythe that he cannot yet speak with the archbp. of Canterbury for the Friar, (fn. 11) for he is so busy that no one can speak with him. If he will send him to London, will put him to board where he will be honestly treated. Asks him and Thos. Penryd to send his quails. His father is dead. London, 24 June. Signs: Sir Cypryan Thystylthwaye.
Desires to be commended to Wm. Stevyns and Sir Adrian.
Hol., p. 1. Begins: "John Sutton, I heartily have me commended."
24 June.
R. O.
On the 3rd of June last, John Clerke, of Henton, Soms., weaver, and Roger Prygge, of Stofford, Wilts, tukker, showed me that as they were drinking in the house of one John Elyottes, in Henton, Sir Nic. Balam, priest, late a monk of Henton, said he would never take the King as head of the Church, but only the Pope of Rome. They brought the priest to me, and he remains in my house; he has been out of his mind and is not much recovered. Dr. Tregonyon can tell you more of him. At my last being in London, Sir Thomas Arundell came to survey the late monastery of Henton, and before your Lordship's letter in my behalf was delivered to him, he despoiled and carried away a great part of the church and buildings I had paid for to the King's visitor, Dr. Tregonyon. This will be to my great loss, unless you direct him to recompense me. He has surveyed the demayns at such a rate that I cannot pay the rent, unless out of my own lands. Moreover, at the surveying, the back door of the prior's cell was broken up by Harry Chapnys (Champneys), gent, of Orchydly, Soms., and others, without the knowledge of Sir Thomas Arundell, and Chapnys and his company entered the cell where the King's evidence lay. At my coming from London I heard of this and rode thither, and found the door of the evidence shelf broken, and the evidence "rofflyd," and the seal of a grant by one of the King's ancestors broken. I enclose the confession of Chapnys' accusers, and have taken sureties for their appearance when commanded. Blackdon, one of the doers, is now in London, in the King's service, as he says. Blackdon and others have taken of the surveyor and the late prior part of the demesnes of the house and say I have acted out of malice; and so, for my discharge, I called my neighbours, and they signed their names to the said accusers' confessions.
I desire you to be a mean for me to the King, that I may have in fee farm, for ever, the manors of Henton and Phylyps Norton and demesnes and house of Henton, Longlete, Luttcumsmyll, Greneworthe, and Yford. My old friend Sir Henry Long desires to have part of it of me, and all lie within a mile of my poor house of Farleygh, except Greneworthe and Longlete. Farleygh, St. John the Baptist's day. Signed.
Pp. 3. Add.: Lord Cromwell. Sealed.
24 June.
III. 721.
* * There has been a great discussion at Rome, in the Pope's Council, whether the Emperor shall make war upon England or the Germans. The Emperor has answered that he is preparing war against the Turks and will not be diverted therefrom. St. John Baptist's day, 1539.
25 June.
IV. 149.
Has received two letters from him, one by his servant the bearer, the other by his own ambassadors. Thanks him for his gentle reception of the ambassadors. Rejoices to learn his willingness to treat for a closer amity, and will gladly receive his ambassadors who are to come to conclude it. Westminster Palace, 25 June 1539.
Latin. Original endorsed: "Productum Anthonium Furierer in Callingpurg (feria) quarta post Margarethe (fn. 12) anno, etc. 39."
25 June.
R. O.
The King's almoner told the King yesterday that Shaxton's man was recovered a month ago and none of the house have taken harm or contagion from him. The King answered that he would speak with him after Parliament was ended, and meautime he should come to the Parliament unless forbidden by the Council. Thus it will be seen that he is forbidden by them, unless by this occasion they agree to his going thither again. Made no suit to Mr. Almoner to speak about coming to the Parliament. Asks him to find out the pleasure of the other lords of the Council. St. Laurence in Pownteney, 25 June.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Lord Privy Seal. Endd.
25 June.
R. O.
1158. [J. HUSEE] to LORD LISLE
The Parliament is not yet broken up. They have rested fifteen days upon an Act for proclamations, but they are now at a point and tarry but the making [out] of the book. On Thursday or Friday next it will be prorogued or dissolved. The clerk is in hand with me for his duties. I have written to you several times in his behalf. "It is brywtyd lattely here ... she ... [h]ere ... sayth w ... I do skantly credytt. And to advertyce ... folkes doth here with the bysshoppes I ... tt knowe butt I think or hitt be long yo[ur Lordsh]ipp shalbe asertened how they (fn. 13) spedythe. They hath grett frendship and grett sywit is made f[or] them." London, 25 June. Signature torn off.
Hol., p. 1, mutilated. Add.
25 June.
Add. 11,041,
f. 30. B.
Thanks him for the payns he has taken on the writer's behalf in surveying the late friars' houses in Worcester, "considering my painful and long circuit that I am in"; which he will acquit hereafter as well as he may. Has sent his clerk, the bearer, Thomas Palmer, on this business, and about other later houses. Coventry, 25 June. Signed.
P.S. in his own hand: Trusts he will find his said clerk honest and trusty. Desires him to accept him at this time in his own place, considering the "inordinate travel, labor, and pains" he has now in Warwickshire, and he is likely to have more for six weeks there and in Leicestershire.
P. 1. Add.: Mr. John Scudamore, esq., one of the King's receivers of his Court of Augmentations.


  • 1. D'Ampont.
  • 2. With Margaret of France. See No. 1138.
  • 3. These words seem as if they had been transposed from Farnese's reply in the next sentence: "poiche la non era andata la prima volta come ostata da lei" (since you had not gone thither the first time, as you were opposed by him, i.e., by Francis).
  • 4. William Smith, of Our Lady Church.
  • 5. Jacob, barber of Mark.
  • 6. Goslyng. See No. 1119
  • 7. The day on which the Act of the Six Articles was to come into operation.
  • 8. William Smith.
  • 9. John Dove, prior of the White Friars of Calais.
  • 10. Sir Edmund Bryndeholme. See No. 1210 (2).
  • 11. Perhaps Sir Robert Thompson. See No 4199.
  • 12. Two days were dedicated to St. Margaret in July, the 13th and the 20th of the month. The former seems here to be intended, and the Wednesday after (feria quarta) would be the 16th.
  • 13. The Commissary and others on their trial before the Bishops.