Letters and Papers: September 1539, 1-5

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Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 14 Part 2, August-December 1539. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1895.

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September 1539

See GRANTS in SEPTEMBER, Nos. 2, 9.
1 Sept.
Add. Ch.
B. M
Deed of sale, by Thos. duke of Norfolk to Thos. Vesey, of the manor called le Prioury, in Hintlesham and Aldham, Suff. John Crane and Ph. Smythe to be attorneys to receive and deliver possession. Sealed 1 Sept. 31 Hen. VIII.
Lat. Parchment. Seal cut off.
1 Sept.
R. O.
Kaulek, 124.
Since his last of the 12th ult. nothing worth writing has occurred. Having followed this King in his progress as far as this place, Grapton (sic), 50 miles from London, has learnt that an excellent painter (fn. 1) whom this King sent to Germany to bring the portrait of the sister of the duke of Cleves, recently arrived in Court, and, immediately afterwards, a courier bringing, among other news which is still kept secret, news that the said Duke's ambassadors have started to come hither to treat and conclude the marriage of this King and the said lady. It is commonly said that men are expected from the duke of Saxony. If they get as cold an answer as those who were here not three months ago, they will not wish to return hither for a long time. Sees that this King, for the surety of his states, is seeking as many friendships as possible, showing, moreover, in every way that he has nothing so much at heart as to persevere in Francis' amity and alliance, which he would knit still closer if possible; as also his principal ministers show in conversation with Marillac. Grapton, 1 Sept.
Fr. Modern transcript, pp. 2.
1 Sept.
R. O.
Kaulek, 125.
[Grafton], 1 Sept.:—Would have written earlier if he had had an opportunity. Besides the news that he writes to the King, Montmorency should know that the duke of Norfolk, Cromwell, and the Admiral, hold the same friendly language as this King, and would like to enter into a new capitulation if any one would listen to them. Replies that although the conventions and agreements between the Kings are as good and sufficient as could be, yet if their master would declare his intention Marillac would let the King his brother know it; for he has no charge to advance a single word without instructions. They do not press further, but say that if in the past they have been good Burgundians, as Marillac knows and they will not deny, nevertheless, now the alliance is turned that they must be good Frenchmen — reason wills it, the time requires it, and the master intends it.
This King lately at the chase said to me that his ambassador in France, wrote that certain persons had spread there a report that he was bringing some Germans to invade France; and he said how was that possible, seeing that, on his faith, he had no intelligence with the lords of Germany "a qui sont pour executer un tel dessein." He also made an allusion to his warlike preparations for the coming of the Emperor, which he had undone as soon as he heard the Emperor was not coming into these countries; so that now he had not 10 ships armed (which is true). He knew well the practices of these spreaders of news, who, while they do all they can to make him think ill of the King, his brother, no doubt do the same to animate the said King against him; but in the end it would be seen who had been the good friends, and who had fed the King with fine words (evidently meaning the Emperor, although he named no one); as for himself he was content with his fortune, and desired to keep within his own island, ready to defend himself and not to invade his neighbours, whose grandeur he envied not, provided they left him the little he had, which, however, was enough to guarantee him against such as would hurt him. I show myself more ready to listen than bold to answer, which I do as little as I can.
After this the King approaches London to be there at the opening of Parliament, 1 Nov. The Emperor's ambassador has remained in London, sick of a great fever, and little pleased, I hear, with those who are coming from the duke of Cleves, as he thinks plots are being made against his master, for the quarrel which is between the Duke and him (les deux seigneurs).
French. Modern transcript, pp. 3.
1 Sept.
R. O.
View of all the King's game, woods, customs, metes, bounds, and perambulations of every forest, park, and chase, from Trent northward, taken by command of Sir Thos. Crumwell lord Privy Seal, and chief justice of the said forests, &c., by several commissions directed to Matthew Boynton and Wm. Thwates, as his deputies, and Ralph Hungayte and Wm. Maunsell, as his clerks, and begun at Allertone in Sherwoode upon Monday, 3 June, 30 Henry VIII.
[Shewing the names of officers, keepers, and regarders, and of the constables and four men of each township, the "perambulation" (round the boundaries), verdicts of the juries of each township as to whether there is any disturbance of the game, &c., orders given by the justices about felling trees, &c., claims of rights and privileges, &c., and fees of officers in each forest].
Sherwood Forest:—Court held at Allerton, Monday, 3 June 30 Hen. VIII., by Boynton and Thwates; perambulation, 9 Sept., 30 Hen. VIII., by the regarders. Haytefelde Chace:—Court at Haytefelde, Wednesday, 5 June 30 Hen. VIII. Galteres forest:—Court at Esyngwolde, Wednesday, 18 June 30 Hen. VIII. Middleham:—Court at Middleham, Monday, 12 Aug 31 Hen. VIII., before Thwates and Wm. Maunsell. Rotheburie:—Court at Anwike, Monday, 18 Aug. 31 Hen. VIII., before Wm. Maunsell. Ynglewoode forest:—Court at Carlisle, 28 Aug. 31 Hen. VIII., before Wm. Maunsell. Teesdale:—Court at Bernerde Castle, Monday, 1 Sept. 31 Hen. VIII., before Matth. Boynton and Wm. Maunsell. (Most of these forests include several smaller forests as members, and the courts are sessions "in itinere" or "swanmote").
ii. Number of able men in Yorkshire, Northumberland, and Cumberland, inhabiting the late earl of Northumberland's lands, under Thos. lord Crumwell, lord Privy Seal, head steward of the said lands; as appears by indentures between Ralph Hungate and Wm. Maunsell, deputy stewards, and the bailiffs of the several lordships.
Shewing the leader of each lordship, and the number of soldiers he can bring of bowmen, billmen, spearmen, and able men without horse or harness. Total 3,911.
iii. Number of the King's game (red and fallow deer) in every forest, park, and chace north of Trent.
Shews the number of deer, and names of keepers of 32 parks, forests, &c. Total red deer 2,067, fallow deer 6,352.
Parchment book of 68 large pages, 9 of which are blank.
1 Sept.
R. O.
I had no letters from you since I saw you in Canterbury. "As you left the charges of your kinsman, so it hath continued, without any discharge of his friends. And as I am informed by Master Litilcote, your brother thinks none other but German is a good grammarian," and I would God he were so; I can make him do no good at this faculty, nor at anything I set him to for his profit. It is but folly to let him consume the time at that. I have assayed so many ways that he makes me despair. Do not cause his father to conceive any displeasure against him for his dulness. There are many quick and apt to worldly matters and drawlatches to learning. If you write or speak, so moderate your doing that no hurt come to the guiltless, "eblandiendus favor eorum qui vel nocere possunt vel prodesse." Cant[erbury], St. Giles' Day.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Sir Gregorie Botulfe, chaplain to the lord Lisle at Calais.
1 Sept.
R. O.
I have received your letters with two bills of complaints therein enclosed, by John Cotton and by Robt. Cragg against Ric. Kyrkeby. I have examined the cases and made an end between both the parties. I have received other your letters enclosing a complaint by Alexander and Henry Staynton, whereby they pretend to a tenant right in a place called Erleghe Cote, alleging that their ancestors, time out of mind, were tenants there of the abbey of Furness till expelled by one Alexander, late abbot, and desiring to have their title tried by inquest. This is all untrue; Erleghe Cote has always been a "hyrdewyke" or pasture ground for the sheep of the abbots of Furness, and in charge of the abbot's herd. To grant an inquest would be against the custom of Furness. The King's manor place of Furness, 1 Sept. Signed: Jhon Lamplugh, k.
Pp. 2. Add.: Lord Privy Seal. Endd.: Sir John Lamplew.
2 Sept.
R. O.
As yet I hear nothing of the hawks that should come from Mr. Tywke, though I have been there twice every day. Tomorrow I ride to Court with my Lord's letters and will speak to Mr. Long for the lanerd in Mr. Tywck's name, and also do my best to get one for your ladyship. I can get no messenger to convey either Mrs. Katharine's letters, which Nich. Eyer delivered to me, or her petticoat which lies ready made at Tong's. Mr. James's letter I have already forwarded to Hampshire. I wrote about a cook for whom Mrs. Anne, Mr. Mewtas, and his wife spoke to me. The poor man would gladly know your pleasure. Lady Garnyshe sends you a venison pasty by Harry Vernham. London, 2 Sept.
Hol. p. 1. Add. Sealed.
3 Sept.
R. O.
The castle at Sandgate, within your lordship of Folkestone, is well brought forward. Three towers are ready to be covered; which Stephen the Almain, deviser of the said castle, would have covered with canvas, pitch, and tar. Thinks lead would be better, of which there is enough to cover the whole castle. Sandgate, 3 Sept. Signed: Thomas Cockes, comptroller of the castle at Sandgate.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Privy Seal.
4 Sept.
R. O.
Ellis, 3 S. III.,
Sends a Welshman, named John Davy, who takes upon himself to be a prophesier. He is very desirous of speaking with the King, and says he will never open the truth till then. He is contented to go to prison and suffer death if what he foretells does not chance to be true. Thinks he is but a "weryshe" person to have any such learning of prophecy. London, 4 Sept. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: Lord Privy Seal.
4 Sept.
R. O.
I am glad to hear of your welfare and that you give so much satisfaction to my lord and lady. (fn. 2) I have received three letters from you and seen those you sent to my brother Sir William, showing the goodwill you bear me, and I trust to do the same to you in like case. Your first I received on the 3rd Aug., the very day I was married, for my advancement into my Lord your master's service or the steward's of your house. If it had not chanced as it did, there is no service I would more willingly have belonged to than my Lord's house. I wrote to you a fortnight after Lammas and delivered it at the Red Lion in Southwark to be given to one of my lord Lisle's servants, but have not heard of it since. Your other two letters I received on Sunday before the Nativity of Our Lady last, and I have made you answer above. I would not meddle with the matter touching the King's Bench or the Marshalsea. On the receipt of your third letter I took the letter enclosed in it to the wife of the Red Lion and demanded the money of her, but she said she had received none of Master Sacffelde or of any other. She said there was another before me for the same money two or three days before. I endeavoured to find Sir Harry, but he was gone abroad in the city; but he told me before St. Bartholomew Tide that he would write to you by the next that came. Hopes he will be over at Michaelmas. You and I can go to my brother William who is but 11 miles from me. As to our elder brother, I would have written to you some part of the matter but it is too long to recite. If you come to Sudbery you shall have poor Sudbery fare and welcome, but we will have Sir William to make merry with us. Sudbery, Thursday before the Nativity of Our Lady, 1539.
Hol., pp. 2.
4 Sept.
R. O.
Receipt by Jaques of Brikhove, alias Jacop Spoor, bourgeois of Brugges, from the Deputy of Calais, of 6 cr. au soleil for a horse harness. 4 Sept. 1539. Signed: Bi mi Jaca Van Bricoue.
Fr., p. 1.
4 Sept.
Vit. C. XVI.
B. M
Commission of Wm. duke of Cleves to his ambassadors (not named), to conclude a treaty of marriage between Henry VIII. and his sister Anne. Dusseldorp, 4 Sept. 1539.
Lat. Copy, pp. 2. Mutilated. Endd.
4 Sept.
Vesp. F. III.
B. M
Desires credence for William ab Harff, prefect of his court, and Dr. Henry Olysleger, whom he sends with John a Doltzk, knight, and Francis Burchart, vice-chancellor, the ambassadors of John Frederick, duke of Saxony. Duysseldorp, 4 Sept. 1539. Signed.
Lat., p. 1. Add. Endd.
5 Sept.
R. O.
Has received Gonson's and the lord Privy Seal's letters. Spertt, William Hourrey, John Tebowrow, Adam Outlawe, and Richard Couchey have viewed the Great Nicholas of Bristol, and find no fault except that she draws 3 fathoms of water in ballast and 3½ when laden. Find in her 6 port pieces, 2 slings, a small fowler, 8 bassys, 6 hacbus, 1 new cable, 2 worn cables, 3 hawsers, 3 anchors, 4 tope armurs, 10 flags, 1 streamer. She is worth 700l. if it were not that she draws so much water. Portsmouth, 5 Sept. Signed.
I pray you answer my Lord Privy Seal's letters for us both as above.
P. 1. Add.: Esquire for the King's body, in London. Endd.
The letter noticed in Vol. XIII., Part II., No. 284, may be of this year. See Notes and Errata to that volume.
5 Sept.
Calig. B. VII.,
B. M.
St. P. v. 158
On leaving the King, came to York and attended his Grace's service there, as the Council wrote. Repaired thence to the assises of Cumberland and Westmoreland, where small execution was done, only two felons in each; and thence through his office of Cokermuthe to Karliell. Met there Mr. Mansell, one of Cromwell's deputies as high justice of forests beyond Trent, and [found ?] the whole country there summoned. As he was alone it was decided that Sir Thos. Curwen and Wharton should sit jointly with him as Cromwell's commissioners. No justice court had been kept in that country within the memory of man. Mr. Mansell doubtless has or will certify what was done.
On Friday, 29 Aug., met lord Maxwell, at Tollercrycke in the Debateable land, and found him well inclined for good orders to be made for the preservation of peace. Among other good orders, it was there devised that no subject of England or Scotland, within the West Marches and Ledesdayll, shall "ressett" any rebel on pain of death. On Tuesday following, 2 Sept., met, at Kyrkander's kirk in the Debateable land, at a day of march for the ministration of justice and to declare the devices for the good of peace. Good deliverance was there made for attemptates. The West Marches are as quiet as within any man's time now living.
Has received letters from the Council at Newcastle to be there, 7 and and 8 Sept., for consultation. The getting to liberty of Sir Ranald Carnabye was nothing so difficult as was supposed.
News of Scotland is that the King lies beyond the water of Forth, keeping a small house, and himself fearing war from England. He inclines more and more to covetousness. Wharton's espial reports that he has said he will break peace with England for no outward prince. He is the more inclined to peace considering how many of his nobles he has exiled and deprived of livings. Murray, Huntley, and Bothwell are all out of favour. Bothwell shall be suffered to pass to the Emperor, an exile from England, Scotland, and France, and the King has taken Liddisdaylle from him. Adam Otterburn and John Chesome are pardoned for a great fine. The Scots grudge that their Queen should say she was with child, and is not. No news yet of the coming of the abbot of Arbroath out of France. Give credence to my servant, the bearer. Karlesle, 5 Sept.
Hol., pp. 3. Endd.
5 Sept.
Calig. E. IV.
B. M
(The commencement, which is much mutilated, contains the words "Parrys," "great reparations done," "joining work in all the diligence.") "Item, also at Seint Antonys whiche ys wt owte ... of a myle by the hy way side betwene ... and the Bastyll ys there a gallere made of ... whiche shalbe all glass wyndowes ffor the ... in to se all the order of Parrys that schal ... receyve hym.
"Item, also theire ys brought unto the Bastyll gr ... ordenance and the voyse ys that all the men ... wth the serjeants a chevall sthande in a raye ... syde wher that the Emperiour schall se all ... and upon the saide hyll theire schalbe layde ... ordenans to be showte." Preparations within the town at the Turnelles for a ceremony in which the president, the rect[or of the university] and lords of the town shall take part. Preparations made for "his lodging" at the Louver, where hangings of the arms of the Emperor and of Burgundy are displayed, a [gallery?] "the length of Grenewiche Hall" is made, &c. Paris, 5 Sept. (fn. 3)
P. 1. Top and right edge much injured. Add.: Privy Seal. Endd.


  • 1. Hans Holbein.
  • 2. Lord and Lady Lisle.
  • 3. So in the Ms., but the month must be wrong, as the letter is evidently later.