Henry VIII: August 1542, 11-20

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. "Henry VIII: August 1542, 11-20", Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 17, 1542, (London, 1900). 345-364. British History Online. Web. 18 May 2024, https://www.british-history.ac.uk/letters-papers-hen8/vol17/pp345-364.


August 1542, 11-20

11 Aug.
R. O. St. P., IX. 123.
604. Chapuys to the Council.
Has received their letters of yesterday, and seen that (fn. 1) of Mons. de Roeulx, which is conformable to that (sent herewith) which he writes to Chapuys. They will have the news from Mons. de Valopt. On receipt of their letters despatched at once to the Queen, yet, as the danger is so pressing, lest the saying, Dum Romani consulunt, Saguntum expugnatur, should fit this occasion, begs them to intercede with the King to lend assistance at once. Assures them that in return the Emperor will do more for the King, and will pay all expenses. London, 11 Aug. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. Sealed. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
11 Aug.
R. O.
605. William Gonson to Thos. Mylldmaye.
"Loving son," at this point I have had your letter written this day at Chellmysfford, and perceive you have command to prepare 20 footmen, and that you would be holpen with bows, arrows, and bills, if you lack any, and that I should write how you shall act and whether you shall prepare coats for the men. Although the preparation of 20 men be much, you must needs do it, and as for bows, &c., I am compelled to buy for myself and so must you; and I suppose you must prepare coats. Mr. Chancellor, who this day departed from London, can best inform you. Deptford, 11 Aug.
Hol., p. 1. Add.
11 Aug.
R. O.
606. Wallop to the Council.
Wrote on the 9th what was then done by Mons. de Vandosme. Yesterday, Vandosme, with the Count de Bryan, Mons. de Kerkey, and the provost de Paris, went to Mountory with 500 horse, leaving De Bees with the camp at Tourneham, and thence to Arde to dinner. Where they intended to burn Oderwicke and other churches, hearing that the Great Master lay there, they, instead, sent a trumpet to know whether he would give them battle in an indifferent place, for where he is are too many ditches. Is not sure whether the trumpet was sent. Yesterday 700 horsemen of the Great Master's issued out of Oderwicke towards Northkerke, and killed 100 Frenchmen who were spoiling the country. An espial yesterday saw them uncovering Tourneham castle and undermining the walls to overthrow it, the camp lying beside the town for two or three days yet, and then going to the new river beside St. Omerz to see what the Great Master will do. The espial saw 500 men join the camp, the daily increase of which Wallop mistrusts; for if they conceive from the daily coming over of Englishmen that the King will make war against them, they may "make some course." Guisnes will, in two or three days, be no meet enterprise for their numbers, "and specially that nation, although Bourgonyons be now so much afraid of them." A poor man of Bredenerd, taken by the French and ransomed, has just reported that the Great Master has made a bridge over the river at his camp beside Oderwike; which camp daily increases and shall number, within two or three days, 30,000 men, and yesterday 500 horsemen joined it.
Mr. Ponynges, with his men, and Wallop, with Mr. Long's, have been making up the braie betwixt the bulwark next the mill and travers wall, "which wall I trust will be at his height within iiij or v days, being a very warlike piece to behold." The Gate House rises fast, and begins to cover much of the castle gate. This night or to-morrow will be a good quantity of water round the castle, and therefore they sleep more quietly. Guisnes, 11 Aug. Signed.
P.S.My lord Chancellor's men arrived yesterday at Calais, and will to-day be here. Mr. Chancellor of the Augmentations' men came thither this morning.
Pp. 2. Add. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
11 Aug.
R. O.
607. Richard Woddall to Sir Ric. Longe.
On the 4th inst. I arrived with my company at Guisnes, and presented your letters to Mr. [Wallop], who for your sake appointed me to a fair bulwark, and willed me and my friends to take his house as boldly as I would yours. Mr. Wallop would have me write to you to help me to a tent or pavilion, which he reckons necessary whatever happen, and thinks, too, I should have a horse, to exercise myself at leisure amongst the other gentlemen here "that daily useth that pastime." I beg you to help me therein, and will pay for the horse as you command, for I cannot "recover" one here. Mr. Vaughan, Mr. Pawlmer, and other gentlemen received me kindly for your sake. Please thank them. Those who bought your bows deceived you, for they are mostly little worth, but I trust to recover better shortly. The Frenchmen have won Dorneham by appointment and Mountory, which was relinquished at their approach. It is thought the Bourgonyons will shortly make them a banquet. Guisnes, 11 Aug. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. : of the Privy Chamber. Endd.

R. O.
608. For a Treaty with Charles V.
"The chieff poyntes that Grandevela did sticke apon, having in other agreed to the articles," with "our brief answer to the sayd poyntes."
[A statement of the negociations of Bonner and Thirlby in Spain, giving the points in order with the answers in the margin opposite them. Most of the answers state, in defence of the articles, that they were passed by common consent of the Commissioners, i.e., of Chapuys and Henry's VIII.'s deputies.]
That the second article be cancelled and drawn as in the treaty of Cambray without the restriction of the merchants. Answer.The restriction is in accordance with the laws of the Kingdom and indifferent, and was understood in former treaties.
That the fifth article of rebels, traitors, and fugitives, be likewise drawn, and reason had for the subjects of the Emperor and the Empire. Answer.It is conformable to reason and strict amity, and the subjects are provided for by the wording.
That the sixth and seventh articles be likewise reformed; and the seventh put as in previous treaties, where is no mention of the islands (fn. 2) there specified. Answer.They conform to the words of former treaties and contain what the Emperor is to lend; and the specification in the seventh article is the specification of what was in the former treaties.
In the eighth article it should be considered that the Emperor cannot lend soldiers except at increased pay; and moreover it seems equitable that aid should last as long as needed, and at the cost of the lender. Answer.The article is indifferent, and may be altered after the treaty is made; and it was so modified for reasons given by Chapuis.
The change in the comprehension of the kingdoms of Spain with regard to aid seems serious. Answer.It was deliberated, and the King showed good inclination, but finally [it seemed] that this kind of defence is not suitable for Spain or Ireland.
Consideration should be had that the Emperor be not bound to lend this subsidy if actually at war, with which he was threatened, in Italy against France and the Turk, who are common enemies. Answer. The article is equal, but the consideration is not reciprocal.
In the thirteenth, the treaty of intercourse should be formed as in the treaty of Cambray. Answer.We see no just causes for this.
The 15th might be modified to permit, in the event of an invasion, treaty for the cessation of the invasion. In the 17th the King of the Romans ought to be comprehended. In the 18th it might be provided that, in case of contravention, the prince offending should have opportunity to excuse himself. Answer.These points can be considered by the princes after the treaty is made.
The indication of war shall be by common consent, and the time according to the progress of affairs. Answer.It seems very much the Emperor's interest that it should be made as soon as possible, unless he has from elsewhere hope of concord.
Account should be had of defence against the Turk. Answer. This may be better done afterwards.
A convenient concession might be made in the subsidy by the Emperor for the opening of the war by the King. Answer.This is concluded in England and Flanders.
Lat., pp. 2. In cipher, with modern decipher attached.
R. O. 2. Contemporary decipher of the preceding.
Lat., pp. 4. Slightly mutilated.
11 Aug.
R. O. St. P., IX. 124.
609. Bonner to Henry VIII.
Upon the arrival of my lord of Westminster, they have done their best for the setting forth of his instructions. The declaration of their conferences with the Emperor's council, he refers to my lord of Westminster as a man of truth, wit, and learning, especially as he carries a remembrance of the pith of their doings signed by them both; with the coming also of Mons. de Curriere, otherwise called Philippe de Montmorence, captain of the guard of the Almains. (fn. 3) By my lord of Westminster, received the cipher. Begs the King to remember his suits made heretofore and now, by Sir Ant. Browne and Mr. Hennage, touching the signing of his bill and his diets, now behind. Barbastro, 11 Aug.
Copy in Bonner's hand, headed by him, "The copy of the bishop of London's letters sent to the King's Majesty by my lord of Westm." P. 1. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
12 Aug.
R. O. St. P., IX. 125.
610. The Privy Council to Chapuys.
Since our last letters, we have heard that Tornehan and Montoire are surrendered to the French, of which being sorry, we nevertheless hope that this will suffice to express the misfortune of Sagunto, which you mentioned in your letters. (fn. 4) Seeing how few men Mons. de Vendosme has, viz., 3,000 Picards, 2,000 Normans, and 2,000 enfans of Paris, he will not dare to besiege any strong place; still, as we promised in our last letters, we have obtained commission for Mons. de Walloppe to treat with Mons. de Rieulx. Windsor, 12 Aug.
French. Draft in Mason's hand, p. 1. Endd. : Minute to th'Emperor's ambassador, xijo Aug. ao xxxiiijo.
12 Aug.
Cott. Appx., XXVII. 80. B. M.
611. Thomas Smith to Gardiner.
[A treatise upon the pronunciation of Greek, arranged in three books, which the writer afterwards printed at Paris (in 1568), and which has been reprinted by S. Haverkamp in his Sylloge Altera Scriptorum, etc., pp. 469-574.].
Derived great pleasure from Gardiner's conversation when he waited upon him the other day at Hampton Court, partly officially and partly for the sake of consulting him. This pronunciation of Greek which they [at Cambridge] have used for seven years he then briefly defended, and Gardiner opposed with such arguments as he had before written to Cheke; but there was no opportunity in conversation to argue the matter at length. Points out the magnitude of the punishment imposed by the edict (fn. 5) in comparison with the offence, and details encouragement which he received in France and Italy to continue this pronunciation, from Christophorus Landinus at Orleans and from Strazelius at Paris. From a Greek whom he met at Paris in Bernardo claustro he could learn nothing, as they could not understand each other, but Strazelius gave him the opinions of a learned Greek at Padua named Janus.
The remainder of the first book and the whole of the second book are occupied with details of pronunciation and opinions of scholars upon them.
In the third book he gives the history of the introduction of the new pronunciation at Cambridge seven years ago, when Gardiner was away in France or Italy. He and Cheke and John Ponet introduced it, a Greek comedy was acted with it, and a most distinguished man of letters, John Redman, S.T.P., always used it. Four years passed, and all who held any reputation were using it. Then Smith went to France, and the King gave the Greek lecture to Cheke, who spent the first six days of his lecture upon the amendment of pronunciation. Then arose Ratliffus and announced his opposition, instigated by those who knew no more than himself, and caused much rioting. Peace followed, and until Gardiner's ediot the youth of Cambridge gave itself to the study of Greek with much fervour. Argues the necessity for the innovation, and concludes with an earnest petition for it to be allowed. Cambridge, 12 Aug. 1542.
Latin, pp. 65. In several different handwritings, the last ten pages apparently being Smith's own. Seal (a three-masted ship).
12 Aug.
R. O.
612. H. Lord Maltravers to Henry VIII.
Yesterday afternoon the French host departed from Tornham into Brednarde, and lay the night at Colencope, between Els and Frolond, about a mile beyond the river, bruiting this day to overthrow the church at Owderkyrk, and then all other churches in Brednarde of any strength, and send the bells to Arde for "necessary uses." The foundation stones of the new works at Montaury are carried to Arde, "and the French intend to rase the great old tower which hath so long remained and borne the name of Montaury." The French captains bruit that 6,000 Bretons landed, three days ago, at St. Valerys, beyond Abbaville, to join them. Calais, 12 Aug.
Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd. : ao 1542.
12 Aug.
R. O.
613. Wallop to the Council.
Wrote yesterday of the order the Frenchmen took for undermining and overthrowing Tourneham and Mountory. For further knowledge, sent out four espials, one to Daverne and Waste, another to Muttrel, and two to the camp, who report as follows :
One sent to the camp, who was there threatened for a spy, heard it bruited that, but for Englishmen, they would have taken St. Omez, Bourbroughe, and Gravelinges; and that, from Tourneham, they should go to Ayre, Arras and along those frontiers. The other from the camp heard say that they would have taken Bourbroughe, Gravelinges and St. Omez, but "the King's Majesty hath forbidden them not to go there;" also he heard that "when they bruit one way they intend otherwise;" and that the camp should remove this night past to Olske, a league from Tourneham towards Bredenerd; which removing is this morning affirmed, and that they will lie there until they have totally overthrown Tourneham and Mountory. The two espials sent to Daverne, Chamer de Boiz and Muttrell, agree that there are coming, between Amiens and Muttrell, a great number of lanceknights, and that certain Brittons are coming by sea. One he sent as far as Normandy, to recover two mares stolen from Ballingham, saw 2,000 lanceknights between Amyas and Abbeville, and also divers companies of adventurers coming to seek wages. So that the camp daily increases, being very nigh neighbours here upon whom he keeps close watch.
Begs them once again to send pikes for the soldiers lately come hither, who brought only bows and bills. Guisnes, 12 Aug. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. Endd. : 1542.
12 Aug.
R. O.
614. Adrien De Croy [Sieur De Roeulx] to Wallop.
Has received his letter, and as to Tourneh[em] and La Montoire, is grieved, but it is better that the enemies took that than anything else, and their demolishing of them is a sign that they could not keep them. Thanks him for his evident desire to have had Englishmen to aid the writer in this war; but since it has not pleased the King, he will look elsewhere, and hopes that some day the King will know that the good of this country is the good of his own realm, and that our enemies detain as much and more from him than they do from us. As to their boast about sending a trumpet to offer battle, none has come; nor was there any need, seeing that I was four days encamped a league and a half from them with much fewer men than they, where they might see my watch fires and hear my drums; and I have since come here, not for fear of them but to provide for affairs, leaving at Saincte Marie Querke only three ensigns of foot, who have been two days and nights without alarm. In keeping on the defensive I only do my duty, since the French king assails us without warning, sending daily to the Queen that he would not begin the war, and would keep the truce, [and] Mons. de Vendosme has written as much to me; and yet when the Turk has invaded Christendom he suborned a great number who were ready to go against the Turk, and has thrown them into Brabant, and at the same time an army into Luxembourg and another here, having allied with the Turk to destroy the Emperor and, consequently, Christendom. They need not wonder at being fifteen days in this country without being fought with, for I have been three months in their country, and others longer, without seeing sign of combat. I will be guided by the service of the Emperor, with the advice of those with me. Piedbroucq, 12 Aug. '42. Signed.
French, pp. 2. Add. Endd. : Mons. de Rieulx to Mr. Wallopp, 12 Aug. 1542.
12 Aug.
Spanish Calendar, VI. II., No. 49.
615. Charles V. to Henry VIII.
Sends the Sieur de Courrieres, captain of his body guard, to declare his intentions touching the charge brought by the bp. of Westminster. Desires credence for him and Chapuys. Monon, 12 Aug. 1542.
From the Vienna Archives.
12 Aug.
R. O. [Spanish Calendar, VI. II., No.48.]
616. Charles V. to Chapuys.
His man arrived on the 22nd ult. with his despatch of the 30 June, and memoranda of what he had transacted with the Queen of Hungary, and of his communications with the King of England and his Council touching the treaty of closer amity. Having examined these and the draft treaty brought by the bp. of Westminster, four conferences were held with him and the bp. of London. Subjoins an account of what passed.
The two ambassadors first exhibited the draft treaty signed by the King at the beginning and end, and delivered an unsigned copy (copy herewith) and offered to pass the treaty in that form, for which they had full powers, urging haste. The following objections were raised :(1) That some articles were couched in terms which the Emperor could not honestly allow; (2) others should be amplified, explained and made equal; (3) others should be referred to the Queen of Hungary or Chapuys. In the 2d. article, relating to hantise and intercourse, a new limitation had been introduced, making it extend only to merchants, which would make the Emperor's other subjects resident in England amenable to the laws, and consequently imply the Emperor's consent to his subjects living there in accordance with the new opinion of the King; but the ambassadors refused to modify the article. [The articles for a defensive league against all persons cannot be allowed to pass, as they are manifestly intended to include the Pope. The ambassadors replied that the article and clause were substantially the same as in the treaty of Cambray, and that out of regard for the Emperor they had consented to the Pope not being expressly mentioned. But the Imperial Councillors answered again that at the time of that treaty there were no difficulties between the Holy See and England, and the then Pope (Clement VII.) was expressly comprised in it. They added that Henry] (fn. 6) might trust the Emperor to fulfil his engagements, and that as he did not acknowledge the Pope's spiritual power, he need not fear his temporal, unaided by other princes. The ambassadors could not deny their arguments, but refused to modify the article.
The ambassadors insisted on the comprehension of the islands which have been included, for defence, with England, saying that the King and his predecessors have peacefully possessed themthat they are so small that there is no likelihood of an enterprise with 10,000 men being made upon them, and that to make difficulty about it would annoy the King.
The Imperial Ministers demanded that the article about rebels and fugitives should be worded as in the treaty of Cambray, viz., that they are not to be harboured but expelled; for such restitution might lead to inconveniences. The ambassadors replied that the French king had accorded it, and that Chapuys had made no difficulty about it. It was answered that the Emperor would not take example by the promises of the French king, but would treat in good faith, and this was to the King of England's advantage, for the Emperor had no occasion to prosecute rebels in England. This expulsion is injurious to the trade of the Low Countries, and all the more suspicious considering the new opinion of the King, and that the words used by the ambassadors, and their insistance upon this point, show that their master would use it against such as were fugitives for refusing to accept the new opinion, whom the Emperor could not conscientiously surrender. The ambassadors being asked why there was no mention made of rebels to the Empire, replied that their comprehension would be too general. They were then pressed as to the dukes of Cleves and Holstein, whose rebellion, and the wrong they did to the Emperor and his nieces was notorious; but nothing could be obtained therein.
To the ambassadors frequent remark that Chapuys made no difficulty in this and the preceding articles, it was answered that he remitted all to the Emperor's determination, and that there were things agreed by the English which they afterwards changed, such as the removal of Spain from the specific [clause of] defence to the general. And as it was suspected that other changes might be made which Chapuys had not seen, nothing was said of the diversity of the draft he sent, so as not to reveal that he had sent it. They confessed that their master had once accorded the comprehension of Spain, but the Council, at which Norfolk was present, dissuaded him; and they affirmed that the articles were substantially as concluded, whereas the contrary is evident when the drafts are compared, notably, in the article of defence, about the army by sea, which is another point as Chapuys well considers, to the Emperor's disadvantage.
Further articles which the English will not modify :(1) A clause which seems to bind the Emperor to send aid, even if at war, in Italy, against the Turk or the French, whereas the King ought rather to aid him against the Turk. (2) The insufficient pay for horse and foot. (3) The intercourse, which they will not have as in the treaty of Cambray, but refer to the treaty of 1520, a point noticed in the despatch (advis) of the Emperor's sister.
On the article forbidding one party to treat without the other, it was suggested that to stop invasion one party might treat alone, provided that nothing was done to the other's prejudice. The ambassadors left that for consideration after the treaty was concluded. As to the bonds, &c., requisite for observance of the treaty, if one party complain of its infraction the case should be submitted to deputies of both before voyes de faict are resorted to.
As to the declaration of war against France, the only difficulty made was about the time, which the Emperor could not fix till he saw the result of the present enterprises of the French king and Turk against him, and of the army of the Empire against the Turk. As to the aid demanded by Henry if he should make particular war on Francis, has readily consented, provided the article be amended honestly, the aid not to be obligatory, and the Low Countries to be assisted, if necessary, by the said army. As to the enterprise of Montreuil, which the Emperor desires above all things, he refers it and all that the King would enterprise against France to his sister.
After four days' conference on the above points, no agreement was come to with the English ambassadors, who said they had no commission to admit alterations, and advised that objections should be made as few as possible, lest the King should be offended, promising their good offices therein. It was then agreed that some one should be sent to England from the Emperor's Court to promote the matter. Sends therefore the Sieur de Courrieres, captain of his body guard, whom Henry knows well, the present instructions being drawn up for him and Chapuys. Gives a summary, declaring his mind, at great length, as to (1) hantise, (2) comprehension of the Pope, (3) the islands, (4) rebels, (5) the dukes of Cleves and Holstein,, (6) inclusion of the Emperor's kingdoms de par dea in the defence, and exemption of the Emperor from the obligation to defend England if he be at war on the side of Italy, with the Turk or with France; (7) duration of the aid to the Low Countries; (8) pay of horse and foot; (9) intercourse of England and the Low Countries, on which they must be guided by the Queen of Hungary, as the Emperor has no copy of the treaty of 1520, and lost all but an unsigned one of that of Cambray in the expedition to Algiers; (10) the condition that one party is not to treat without the other; (11) the liberty granted to either party to proceed against the other for contravention of the treaty; (12) whether the English wish Ferdinand to be included (which need not be insisted on if opposed); (13) time of declaration of war (the Emperor's demands against France should not be specified beforehand); (14) the enterprise against Montreuil.
Though Francis has practised against the Emperor in Italy, in Flanders and on this side of Roussillon and Navarre, and now masses great forces on this side, he has not as yet broken with the Emperor, but continues to talk of peace; and the Emperor would still temporise with him, to see what he will do, before being bound to another war and to abstain from treating without England, and not enterprise anything against Montreul, which would mean a return to open war. They must delay until the Emperor notifies to his sister and them his final intention; but if the French meanwhile break openly, they shall conclude the treaty, by the advice of his said sister. They may excuse delays by the necessity of consulting with the Queen, and De Courrieres may go over to Flanders. The Emperor will forthwith provide two "zabres," and if the English do the like, news will pass continually. Finally, they must press again for aid against the Turk, with the further argument that the Pope will refuse it, owing to this treaty, while France will instigate the Turk the more to attack the Emperor and him.
The ambassadors, after their first conference, desired a memorandum of the points (fn. 7) on which difficulty was made; which has been given them, that they might make a written reply, but they have not done so. The difficulty about the King of England's titles will be avoided by the course mentioned in a previous letter to the Queen of Hungary. Leaves to her and De Praet the question about giving pensions to Henry's chief councillors, having already written to her to give them presents and excuse the pensions. Will observe the promise (fn. 8) Chapuys took in his name not to treat, before next October, to each other's prejudice, and to keep it secret; but will accept overtures from the Pope, the King of France, and others, to prevent war, and the promise may be prolonged upon that condition. Monon, 12 Aug. 1542.
French. Modern transcript, from the Vienna Archives, pp. 27.
12, 13Aug.
Dasent's A.P.C., 20.
617. The Privy Council.
Meeting at Sonninghill, 12 Aug. Present : Hertford, Russell. Durham, Winchester, Browne, Wriothesley, Sadler. No business recorded.
Sonninghill, 13 Aug. Present : As above. Business :Letters sent to Sir Thos. Cheyney, the mayor and the lieutenant of the castle of Dover, that, since the King had won the pier of Dover clear out of the sea, their liberties should not extend to it. Letter sent to Tuke to appoint to all the posts between London and Berwick 3 horses, instead of their ordinary one horse, and allow them 2s. a day instead of 1s.
[*** Next entry is 15-18 Aug.]
13 Aug.
R. O. St. P., IX. 129.
618. The Privy Council to Wallop.
According to their former advertisement, send him the King's commission to commune with Mons. de Rieulx, if he have like commission from the Regent. For secrecy and surety, the King refers the meeting to Wallop's appointment. On their meeting he shall say that when Vandosme and the French first laid siege to Turneham, the King, believing it could have been relieved by the men of Guisnes, wrote to the Regent to commission De Rieulx to conclude with Wallop for its relief, but, as Turneham and Mountory are now won past recovery, and the enemy so few, 8,000 foot and 2,000 horse, that they dare not besiege any place that might hold them any time, the cause of that commission seems to be gone; nevertheless, if De Rieulx thinks the French will lay siege to any place that can hold out long enough for men to be conveyed over, because he dare not adventure his men as he might have done when they were so near neighbours, he trusts that, upon reasonable conditions, the King will succour them. If he press to have them suddenly sent over, Wallop shall repeat that the ground of the commission being gone, he must first advertise the King and know (saying this as not doubting but that he is furnished for it) how much shall be paid for the wages, conduct, and levying of the men, whether they will promise a correspondent aid in horsemen in case the King hereafter attempt anything against France, and whether if the French injure the King's countries there, they will take no end with them (the French) until the damage is redubbed or revenged. Wallop shall then, giving him good hope and reminding him of the tenuity of the enemies, take his leave; and advertise the King.
In speaking of the enemies, Wallop shall say that Englishmen much marvel (considering the tenuity of their host, in which were all the chief men of war of all the garrisons in Picardy, "the overthrow of whom should have been no small victory") that De Rieulx did not pick men from the garrisons of Flanders, leaving enough to defend the towns, and either give battle or spoil the country in return. Finally, if, as Wallop writes, Vandosme has sent a trumpet to offer him battle, Wallop shall say he cannot with honour refuse it, and advise him to appoint the place near Guisnes, where he may the sooner have succour of Englishmen.
Draft corrected by Wriothesley, pp. 10; the last paragraph in Sadler's hand. Endd. : Minute to Mr. Wallop, xiijo Aug. ao xxxiiijo.
13 Aug.
R. O. St. P., IX. 126.
619. Wallop to the Council.
On the 12th received theirs of the 10th containing four points, viz. : 1. That he should thank De Rieulx for his advertisements, promise to try and get him some Englishmen, as he desires, and advise him in the mean season, &c. Two or three days past, to know his inclination and whether Vandosme had sent a trumpet offering him battle, sent a letter to De Rieulx, declaring Vandosme's being before Tourneham, with their small number and loose order, scattering from Tourneham to Arde and from Mountory to Tourneham, and in his own country of Bredenerd; adding, for further encouragement, that Englishmen daily descended at Calais, the Emperor's affairs in England went well, and that his letters touching the entertaining of Englishmen were sent to the King, and also his letters to the Emperor's ambassador. Will to-night send him another letter, according to their instructions. 2. To the second point, to be kept most secret, thanks the King for his confidence, and trusts to fulfil his pleasure. 3. To report with all diligence how many Englishmen would suffice, with De Rieulx's forces, to meet the French in the field or stay their further enterprises. Considering how long the Frenchmen have lain upon these borders in small numbers and bad order, and De Rieulx with as many as they so nigh, concludes that "Flemings be nothing worth," and that he himself could, with 500 Northern horsemen, have taught the French to keep better together. When the King sends footmen over, 500 Northern horsemen should come with them. To meet the Frenchmen in the field would require no less than 4,000 Englishmen, or to stay their further enterprises 2,000. The French are well chosen, and, moreover, 2,000 Almains join them to-day or to-morrow, and 4,000 Bretons are coming to them. When these are together all Flanders is not able to give them battle, but 4,000 Englishmen, with at least 2,000 Almains and De Rieulx's men, would make them retire faster than they came. Englishmen would more discourage them than any other nation (whose coming they fear already), and would most comfort the Burgundians. Good Mons. de Rieulx is now out of hope, as his letter herewith will show.
[4?] "And where, in the post scripta," the King thinks my letters to Mons. de Rieulx should note the small number of Mons. de Vandosme's camp, I will not mention the coming of the lanceknights (although he must know it), whose coming will give him less courage; howbeit, Mons. de Lisquez is coming to him, within two days, out of Liexemburgh, who is one of the hardiest gentlemen of Flanders.
Wrote yesterday that the camp removed the day before to Olske, 2 miles off. Yesterday they removed a mile further towards St. Omez, where they mean to lie until they have fully overthrown Mountory and Tourneham, and then proceed to St. Omez. Guisnes, 13 Aug. Signed.
Pp. 4. Add. Endd. : ao 1542.
13 Aug.
R. O.
620. Wallop to the Council.
Upon their letter of the 3rd inst., for 100 of the 500 men last appointed hither to be sent to lord Graye, captain of Hampnes, sent my lord of Oxford's 100 who came yesternight. Lord Graye, who, by his indenture, has the making of the captain and petty captain of the men under him, discharged those that had the leading of the said 100, saying that his servant, this bearer, brought him word from Mr. Comptroller of the King's house that he might at all times make the captain and petty captain there. The gentleman who was captain greatly laments his discharge, and desires to know the Council's pleasure. Guisnes, 13 Aug. Signed.
P. 1. Add. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
13 Aug.
R. O. St. P., IX. 125.
621. Charles V. to Henry VIII.
Credence for his ambassador, who will speak of the dearness of wheat here, owing to the drought, and desire licence to import some from England. Montson, 13 Aug. 1542. Signed.
French, p. 1. Add. Endd.
14 Aug.
Add. MS., 32,647, f. 25. B. M. Hamilton Papers, No. 119.
622. Robert, Bishop Of Llandaff, to the Council.
This 14 Aug. received letters from Sir Wm. Eure, captain of Berwick, notifying a report by Barwike the pursuivant, "which of late was in Scotland," that the King of Scots, 9 Aug., rode from Edinburgh to Leith, and was displeased because his four ships were not so soon ready for sea as they should have been. A Scottish herald came from their ambassador at London, called Thomsone, who bruited that 10,000 men came down to the borders of England and more should follow; whereupon the Council of Scotland warned all between Edinburgh and the Borders, and proclaimed that the gentlemen of Lawdeane (Lothian) should be on Lammermoor, 10 miles from the Borders, on Tuesday next, for their defence. Proclamation was also made for oxen and horses for carriage to be ready to accompany the King. The Cardinal of Scotland is come home and in favour. Old Maltone, 14 Aug., 6 p.m. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. Endd. : 1542.
14 Aug.
R. O.
623. Deputy and Council Of Calais to Henry VIII.
This day some 40 Frenchmen entered the Pale "and drave a certen number of beasse towerdes foorthe of the same; but yet, being empeached by your Grace's subjects, they drowned certen of the beasse in dryving them; and so departed." The King's subjects caught one of the Frenchmen on French ground, who had lingered behind the rest, and who confesses that he was one of those who entered yesterday, as their last letters signified. The Deputy, this day, sent Calais pursuivant to Mons. de Vandosme with a letter requiring punishment of the offenders and restitution of the spoil. Ask how to deal with such incursions. Calais, 14 Aug. 1542. Signed : H. Mawtravers : Rauff Ellerkar : Edward Bray : Edwarde Wotton : Edward Ryngeley : Antony Knyvet.
P. 1. Add. Endd.
14 Aug.
R. O.
624. H. Lord Maltravers to Henry VIII.
This day Mons. de Byes triumphantly told one that I had in the French camp that yesternight he sent four "vanes" of the host to alarm a peel of Mons. de Reus, called Remyngham; and, at the sight of his men, the 300 Burgundians within the said peel set fire to it and fled. Another espial reports that this forenoon certain young men of Mons. de Reus, against the Great Master's command, passed the river beneath the abbey of Watton, and one vane of them marched towards the Frenchmen who were straggling abroad; and so fell into an ambush, in which were one vane of Picards and two of Normans, Mons. de Bagkauyll and Saynt Obyn captains, who took 60 of them. One boatfull of the Burgundians was drowned, wherein were eight persons. Mons. de Fosquesolles was near by with 1,000 horse to rescue the French if required. Brednard is sore spoiled. The French lie scattered as if they feared nothing, part at Tornham, part in Brednard, part at Remyngham, and the battle at Montcove. "I shall now for shame cease to advertise your Majesty of any other news that they bruit, they be of such untruth." Calais, 14. Aug.
Hol., pp. 2. Add. Endd. : ao. xxxiiij.
14 Aug.
Poli Epp., III. 61.
625. Cardinal Pole to Cardinal Contarini.
The causes which necessitate my retaining our Signor Abbate are explained by himself and by M. Alvise, and I am sure you know that, but for necessity, I would prefer your service to my own. Has already written why he did not answer Contarini's letters. Hopes to declare by mouth rather than by letter his sense of the importance of that matter. Prays God to favour Contarini in this holy legation. Expects Sadolet at the end of this week. Viterbo, 14 Aug. 1542.
15 Aug.
R. O.
626. Henry VIII. to Sir Thomas Seymour.
We have received your sundry letters containing your arrival at the King of Romaynes camp with his gentle entertainment of you and other things worthy advertisement; your diligent signification of which we take in good part. As you will have seen everything worth noting before these letters reach you, and, as your service here is required, you shall upon receipt of this take leave and return home.
Draft in Wriothesley's hand, pp. 2. Endd. : Minute to Mr. Seymour xvo Aug. ao xxxiiijo.
15 Aug.
R. O.
627. Wallop to the Council.
On the 14th received theirs dated Windsor, the 11th, and perceives that the King desires the speedy finishing of his two bulwarks in the Marshes, and would have Wallop desire all men of war who can be spared to help the work. All the men of war in the crew of Guisnes have, since their coming, wrought about the castle with a very good will. Mr. Ponynges first persuaded his company very discreetly, and remained in the works while they wrought, and the others have followed his good example. Trusts therefore to satisfy the King's expectation, and awaits only the coming of the Surveyor from Calais.
The Frenchmen remain in their camp beside Tourneham, to St. Omez wards. Yesterday they sent 2,000 foot and certain horse to a castle of the Great Master's, called Remyngham, about which in the fields were five standards Burgundians, and 400 men within the castle, who seeing the French approaching fired the castle. The five standards perceiving it on fire fled away, and the Frenchmen pursuing, killed or drowned 120 or 140, and took as many prisoners, as they report. The captain of the five standards was Mons. de Newerley, who is drowned or killed. Trusts to know more in two days, having written to the Great Master.
Encloses depositions taken before Mr. Rous, Mr. Ponynges, and himself. The accused denies the words utterly. Asks what to do with him; he has long been a soldier here and reputed honest, "saving that he will be sometimes drunk." Guisnes, 15 Aug. Signed.
P.S.Thinks they know of the great sums of money the Regent has gathered at Antwerp and elsewhere.
Pp. 2. Add. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
R. O. 2. Several depositions of Thos. Fayre and Perot Taylour, to the effect that as they were drinking a pint of wine at one Waterton's house in Guisnes, Ant. Huchetson, being very drunk, asked to drink a glass with them, and complained that his way home had been stopped. Fayre said that the next time he spoke with the King he would desire that a new way should be made for him. Huchetson answered, "Hang the King and them that made the way." Fayre said he ought to be hanged for speaking such words; and he asked what words? He then fell down and went to sleep.
P. 1. Endd.
15 Aug.
R. O.
628. Adrien De Croy [Sieur De Roeulx] to Wallop.
Thanks him for his letter and advice. In war are all fortunes, good and bad. Had one yesterday bad enough, but not so important as the French will say. Lost half a dozen gentlemen and one ensign with 25 compagnons killed, and a 100 killed and 100 taken. Knows not yet whether the enemies will go towards Bapalmes or look to pass this river. No wonder if a country assailed on three sides at once suffers somewhat. If France were assailed in as many parts and as suddenly it would be scarcely less astonished. Two assaults by the enemies upon Ivoix in Luxembourg have been repulsed and the Sieur d'Aumale, eldest son of Mons. de Guise, and Mons. Desden (fn. 9) with 12 or 14 great lords and 1,500 men slain. With an army put in the field within eight or ten days, if only for three weeks or a month, "on les habilleroit bien; mais de ce que ne peult estre fault avoir la paciens." Waten, 15 Aug. Signed.
French, p. 1. Add. : A Monsr. le Capitaine de Guisnes. Endd. : 1542.
16 Aug.
R. O.
629. The Privy Council to Wallop.
The King has received his letters (fn. 10) of the (blank) inst., in the end of which he writes that Mons. de Lisques is come from Luxemburgh to the Great Master of Flanders. Knowing Mons. de Lisques to be a hardy gentleman, and one whose presence in Luxemburgh is very necessary, if affairs be there as reported, and the Clevoye joined with Mons. d'Orleance, the King thinks that things there cannot be in such evil case as was noised. You are to search how the things of Luxemburgh stand, and what Mons. d'Orleance has done and intends, and whether the Clevoyes have indeed joined him; also what has become of the lanceknights who were going to Mons. de Bures and the prince of Orange, and what they have.
Draft in Wriothesley's hand, pp. 2. Endd. : Minute to Mr. Wallop, xvjo Aug. ao xxxiiijo.

Add. MS., 32,647, f. 153. B. M. Hamilton Papers, No. 159.
630. Henry VIII.
Memoranda in pencil in the King's own hand as follows :
"For the Privy Seal's going and Brone's. Which way to redubb the pact with th'Emperor. For the loan to Flanders upon conditions. For the hacbutiers at Gynys. For a sufficient number to th'emprise of the sea. For to determine whether the journey over sea may be this year or not."
16 Aug.
Kaulek. 450. (The whole text.)
631. Marillac to Francis I.
Part of the said (sic) ships which this King had equipped for war left two days ago to convoy, as accustomed, the wool fleet which goes yearly to Calais; and the rest are ready to sail towards Porchayne, where the others retire, or to carry men or provisions of war towards Scotland, which is easier done by sea than by land. There are a good many other ships of lords and merchants, of which 7 or 8 of 300 or 400 tons are taken for the King's service and the smaller forbidden to sail without permission, which is however easily granted, provided the masters ship double crews (y ayent mettre double equipage). As to land forces, wrote on the 10th that a general review was being made of those who could bear arms. It is since reported that choice would be made, by parishes, of those most apt for war; who would be retained and enrolled to hold themselves ready whenever sent for. The same commandment has been made to the gentlemen of the Household called the King's pensioners. There is no one but feels these preparations, the nobles preparing to go in person, the merchants and mean people either to go or contribute, and the ecclesiastics compelled to prepare wages for soldiers, as for instance the abp. of Canterbury for 300 men, the bp. of Winchester for 200, and the bp. of Durham and others in proportion to their revenues. If occasion offers, all the forces of England will be seen. The Privy Seal and Chesnay, called milord Varden, cross the sea, the former to Calais and the latter (with a good number of men of Caint) to Guynes. Norfolk is reserved for the North in case of movement on the side of Scotland. It is said that the Grand Esquire, Mr. Bron, will leave in four days to go to Francis, with a secretary and a herald; if so (for as yet he cannot assure it) Marillac thinks it will be to speak of the pensions or some other troublesome charge, for this Mr. Bron is the worst of those who are hostile to France; and Francis will remember the good report he made here on returning from his journey in Francis's Court when the Queen of Hungary came to Compigne. (fn. 11) Begs Francis also to remember to keep him waiting before his audience and after his despatch as the English commonly do with French envoys, which is at least 8 or 10 days; and so gain time, which is very important at this advanced season. Daily, men pass in succession towards Calais or the North, and one sees harness, ensigns, and liveries of footmen and, at times, a number of men wearing already the red cross, indicating the will to make war, the bruit of which is still incomparably greater with regard to Scotland than to France; for it is commonly said that there is no intention to break with Francis unless he should aid the king of Scotland; whom they propose to harass, whatever fine words they use to his ambassador, who is still here, and cannot be despatched so soon as he thought.
French. Headed : [London,] 16 Aug.
16 Aug.
R. O.
632. Wallop to the Council.
Received on the 15th theirs dated Sonnynghill, the 13th inst., with a commission to commune with Mons. de Rieulx, if he have the like from the Regent and desire it. Has not yet heard from him for any such purpose. Perceives, by theirs of the 10th, that the King would have him answer De Rieulx, thanking him, &c. (words of No. 594, both letter and postscript, recapitulated). Had written the like to him before receiving their letters, and lately sent them his letters in reply, and of Vendosme's sending no trumpet to him. Upon their said letter, sent this bearer, Mr. Awdeley, to him with letters; both for surety (he being very discreet) and to learn the number and order of his camp. Awdeley arrived incontinent after the Frenchmen had given the overthrow to his men that passed over the water to rescue his castle, and saw the bodies of those drowned in the flight pulled out out of the water. He can relate the whole circumstance and describe De Rieulx's camp and inclination (being apparently "far from the purpose I should persuade him unto"). He is an honest man, meet for the wars, and able to set men in order from 1,000 to 10,000 and upwards, "hardly to be amended." Encloses De Rieulx's answer (to his letter by Awdeley), who has scarcely touched the principal points; and is unable to give battle, and scantily to defend his country, and has no horsemen with him. Wrote that 4,000 men, with his company, could give battle to Vandosme, but now thinks 6,000 too little; for all his footmen are not worth 1,000 good men (Wallop would rather have 2,000 Almains), and his best men are now killed, drowned and taken, and he "greatly astouned with the said loss." He is recomforted with his news from Divoix, where were killed Mons. de Guise's eldest son, Mons. Damaile, and Mons. Disden, with 12 or 14 great personages of France, and 1,500 footmen. "Monsr. Daumayle and Monsr. Disdayne were ij of the gallierdes, and greatest personages in France, the King's children and Monsr. Vandosme excepted."
Hears only from the French camp that they will tarry two days yet, to overthrow the great dungeon and other towers at Tourneham and likewise at Mountory, and then go to Bapayme.
Begs them to get Hubberdyn, the King's servant here under Mr. Vaughan, made captain of one of the two new bulwarks in the Marres, "who is a hardy man and a roister meet for such a bulwark" Guisnes, 16 Aug. Signed.
Pp. 3. Add. Endd. : 1542.
16 Aug. 633. Paul III. to Charles V.
The letter noticed under this date in the Spanish Calendar is of the 26 Aug.
17 Aug.
Spanish Calendar, VI. II., No. 51.
634. Mary Of Hungary to Chapuys.
Before answering his letters of the 2nd and 9th inst., informing her of the representations made by the King to him and the French ambassador, thinks it well to tell him what the Emperor has answered to her letter on the closer alliance. Sends abstract of the Emperor's letter dated 15 July. Thinks as he has openly declared his intention on two most important points, Chapuys should set forward the negociations at once without stopping at the new title given to the King, lest he should resent it. If, however, he find that the Emperor ought to give him the title he speaks of, he had better suspend the negociation till he know what answer has been made in Spain to the bp. of Winchester's (Westminster's?) mission. Delay would be awkward, for if the negociation were suspended, the King would only be bound to help the Emperor according to the treaty of Cambray. Has appointed the bearer Franchois de Phallaix to go to England, and according to his instructions, which he will show, go with Chapuys to ask aid of the King pending the negociation of the treaty. Would have sent one of the principal personages in these Low Countries, but that the enemy is attacking on every side. The fall of Tournehem and La Montoire, which Chapuys, in his letter of the 9th, feared might discourage the English, has already taken place; but, as the French have destroyed those fortresses instead of keeping them, the English will see that the loss was unimportant. Tournehem could not stand a regular siege, and the fortifications of La Montoire had not been completed. Orleans is still before Yvoix, and the French say will continue the siege till he has won the town. Warships from France and Denmark are on the coast of Zealand and Holland. We are ill furnished to repel an attack. Pray get the King to assist us promptly. Brussels, 17 Aug. 1542.
From the Vienna Archives.
17 Aug.
Baronius, XXXIII., 14.
635. Paul III. to Francis I.
Although his mediation between Francis and the Emperor has hitherto been vain, he is prompted by the danger of all Christendom to continue his efforts for peace, and is sending two legates, the one of them James, cardinal of St. Callixtus, to Francis. Rome, 17 Aug. 1542.
15-18 Aug.
Dasent's A.P.C., 20.
636. The Privy Council.
Meeting at Chobham, 15 Aug. Present : Southampton, Hertford, Russell, Durham, Winchester, Browne, Wingfield, Wriothesley, Sadler. Business :Letter written to the French ambassador for restitution to John Tolouse, alderman of London, of goods taken at sea by Frenchmen.
Meetings at Chobham 16, 17, and 18 July, with the same attendance, but no business recorded.
[*** Next entry is 20 Aug.]
18 Aug.
R. O.
637. Wallop to the Council.
Yesterday sent two horsemen to St. Omez to learn what preparations they made and what De Rieulx did, and, in passing the camp, to hearken when they should dislodge. They sent word, by 10 a.m., that they found the said camp dislodging. Two footmen who went thither, feigning to buy victuals, reported the same, and that Mons. de Vandosme and the horsemen waited upon the hill beside Tourneham to see the great tower overthrown with powder, which was not so effective as was expected, "ne also the like of divers things that they would have done, as well there as at Mountorey." Some say Vandosme lodged that night at Equerres, beside St. Omez and Turwan. Some think he intends homeward, and to put his men in garrison, others that he will first go into Bappayme. Thinks that, with his number, he will not besiege any strong town. The Surveyor and Palmer, the captain, intending to go to Arde, by Wallop's advice feigned their coming was for safe conduct to the camp, and saw the town in going and coming, being well intreated and supping with Mons. de Torsey. Palmer brought commendations from Mons. de Vandosme and the Count de Bryan, which latter said that, being that day in Bredenerd with 5 ensigns, he chased an ensign of Burgundians, accompanied with a good number of peasants, who took refuge upon the King's ground (apparently beside Bowtes), and folded up their ensign and cast it down; whereupon he pursued no further, because Vandosme had forbidden going upon the King's ground. The Surveyor and Palmer intend to write further what they learnt. If the Burgundians came so to take succour on the King's ground the lord Deputy should know it; but an espial has just reported that yesterday some Frenchmen in Bredenerd attacked some Burgundians, who retired into a marsh beside Oderwike, not being the King's, killing in their retreat some 30 of the Frenchmen, who were afraid to follow them into the marsh, not because it was the King's ground, but because another ensign of Burgundians was approaching. If this be true it shows "how Frenchmen can excuse their own faults and turn the same to their honor."
Yesterday the Bailly was also at the camp seeking knowledge, not knowing of his brother and the Surveyor being there. Caused him to write what he learnt there, and encloses it. Has heard nothing from the Great Master since Awdely's departure. If the Frenchmen retire he will have leisure to study how best to hurt them, "which he shall hardly do without the King's Majesty's assistance; thinking thereby the rather to hear from him." Guisnes, 18 Aug. Signed.
P.S.Required Palmer, the captain, if Vandosme asked news, to say Wallop heard that Damayle and Disdayne were killed at the assault of a town in Luxemburgh. He confessed Daumale to have been hurt. Apparently "the Frenchmen have had great loss there."
Pp. 3. Add. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
R. O. 2. The Bailiff of Guisnes' report.
At my arrival at the camp of Mons. de Vandomes beside Oske, at 7 o'clock this morning, I found the footmen on the march, about 4,500, who went to lodge this night at Equerres. Mons. de Vandome went to Tornaham with most of the horsemen, some 1,500, and abode there from 8 in the morning until 5 at night. Fire was given to the mines, but took so ill effect that the dungeon and other places remained whole. Mons. de Vandome then departed, leaving order for its overthrow. Mountorye was overthrown the same day. An acquaintance showed me that Longavall should repair with his men, those that were before Andewarpe, to Mons. de Vandomes, but was now appointed to go to Mons. de Orlyaunce, who had lost some men "at sault of Yvoy in Lewsenghborughe;" also that 6,000 Bretons and 2,000 lanceknights, who were coming, are caused to retire, and Vandome goes homeward by Bapame for this season, for his commission extended no further than for Tornaham and Mountory. Signed by Henry Palmere, and headed by him : Thursday, 17 Aug.
P. 1.
19 Aug.
Add. MS., 32,647, f. 27. B. M. Hamilton Papers, No. 120.
638. Sir Wm. Eure to the Council.
On the 15th inst. received a letter from the Council of Scotland, dated Edinburgh, the 13th, which he took to be an excuse to learn affairs here, and therefore wrote to them again by Harry Raye, pursuivant, who returned this 19 Aug., at 3 p.m., with the letter enclosed. On his way to Edinburgh he met, beyond Haddington, on the 16th, lord Seton and the lairds of Lowdean, south of Edinburgh, assembled, as they said, for defence of their realm; but Raye heard that they would invade England, and that the west of Lowdean and Lauderdale was coming to join Teviotdale. Huntley is lieutenant, because Murray is sick. The earl of Argyle, with the North Isles and the Irish, is ready at an hour's warning. One Scrymeshen, master of works, comes to Coldingham with 300 men, and one Charles Murray to Dunse and Cockburne. In Edinburgh Raye was commanded to keep his inn, accompanied by a serjeant at arms, and escorted back to the Borders by a pursuivant. The Scots on the 18th inst. burned Carham tower and waste houses in Cornell. John Carr, captain of Wark, had, the morning before, burnt waste houses in Teviotdale, called Ryden and Halden. There are 1,000 workmen in Berwick, and 200 men come with Angus and Sir George Douglas, which is far more than the garrison. Desires, if war arise, that he may, like previous captains, have 300 men of his own to strengthen the garrison. Mr. Clifford had his nephew here with 300 men in the last wars; and the writer's indenture is for 250 to be taken in if he see need, and 250 more, if siege be laid to the town or castle. Here is only one windmill for grinding wheat, and a watermill without St. Mary gate, which may have the water drawn from her, so that provision of barrel flour or more mills is needed. Angus is an honorable man, and Douglas a worshipful one, but they are Scotsmen born, and if the King of Scots died would return to Scotland, and they shall by their remaining here know the privity of Berwick as well as I, the captain. There is such strait punishment in Scotland for intercommuning with Englishmen, that it is hard to get espials for money. Berwick, 19 Aug., 6 p.m. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
19 Aug.
R. O.
639. Wallop to the Council.
His two servants who were sent, as he wrote yesterday, to St. Omez, report that the French camp lay yesterday at Fuxemberge, 6 English miles thence, intending to disperse into garrisons. The same night their camp brake up, Mons. de Rieulx came to St. Omez with 800 tall men, newly come to him, whom he left in garrison, and yesterday departed with 800 horse. The bruit is that he is gone to meet the prince of Orrenge, who comes towards him with 5,000 or 6,000 horse and 16,000 foot, and that "the Dolphyn should have an evil rencountre by the Spaniards beside Bayon."
By Mr. Wingfeld was yesterday advertised that the Frenchmen have cut, in their marsh beside Ardre adjoining Bredenerd, three or four great trenches which will draw away the water coming to Calais, so that the boats that were wont to come from St. Omez with victual will be this day unable to pass, and the whole country and the brewers at Calais incommoded. Would have written to Mons. de Torsey to know what he meant thereby, but desires first to know the King's pleasure. My lord Deputy will have written further of it. As fast as they draw away the water on that side much faster can we draw it of their plashe on this side "to their great discommodity." Guisnes, 19 Aug. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
20 Aug.
Dasent's A.P.C., 21.
640. The Privy Council.
Meeting at Hampton Court, 20 Aug. Present : Canterbury, Southampton, Hertford, Russell, Durham, Winchester, Browne, Wingfield, Wriothesley, Sadler. Business :Letter sent to Sir John Baldwyn, C. J. of Common Pleas, that his letters enclosing depositions are received, but the matter seems not of such weight that he need trouble further therein. Letter sent to Norfolk for speedy conveyance to Berwick of 500 qr. wheat, 500 qr. rye, and 1,000 qr. barley, signifying that, in consideration of his business, he might be absent from Court. Letter sent, upon advertisements from the North, for Norfolk to repair next day to Court.
20 Aug.
Harl. 283, f. 166. B. M.
641. [Wriothesley] to Lord Cobham.
Has received his letter by the bearer with that sent to Mr. Waller, for which Cobham will receive another better ordered than the last. But I cannot diminish "his" number except on his own certificate. He must therefore write to the whole Council what he can furnish, "and I shall help that he shall be discharged of the rest." Mr. Vane is now discharged of this journey, "so as those men may be at your commandment. I think he would not have meddled with them if he had considered before your office and authority over them;" but as the thing is now past I would not that it should breed unkindness between you. Hampton Court, 20 Aug., at night. (Unsigned.)
In Wriothesley's hand, p. 1. Add. : To, &c., my lord Cobham.
20 Aug.
Add. MS., 32,647, f. 30. B. M. Hamilton Papers, No. 121.
642. James V. to Henry VIII.
Received on 18 Aug. his writings, dated Windsor, 8 Aug., answering the writings and credence sent with James Leirmonth of Darsy, one of James's masters of household, who has also written at length the answer given to him. Accordingly, to dress the difference betwix them, is sending the ambassadors named in letters of supplication for their safe conduct; and, meanwhile, asks credence for Leirmonth. Halirudhous palace, 20 Aug. 29 James V. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. Sealed. Endd.
Royal MS., 18 B. VI., 141. B. M. 2. Contemporary copy of the preceding in a letter book.
P. 1.
Ib. 3. "Ane mynutt of ane supplication for ane safconduct to ye ambassatours."
We direct towards you Robt. bp. of Orknay, John lord Erskin, James Leirmonth of Darsy, one of our masters of household, Master James Fowllis of Colintoun, clerk of our register, and Master Thomas Bellenden, director of our chancellary; praying you, dearest Uncle, to grant letters of safe conduct for any four, three, or two of them.
Copy in a letter book, p. 1.
20 Aug.
Royal MS., 18 B. VI., 141b. B. M.
643. James V. to [James Leirmonth].
He shall receive from bearer James's answer to the writings he lately sent from the King of England, to be delivered to the said King, together with a copy of the same and a credence written by James's Council. Haste the bearer again with the safe conduct for the ambassadors. Marvels at his writing that the King and Council will not take heed that these breaks began by the English. It is notorious that they rode twice into Scotland before the Scots invaded them, as James's Council wrote. Likewise the English officers were the first refusers of justice, as the ambassadors will show. Edinburgh, 20 Aug. 29 James V.
Copy, p. 1. Begins : Weilbelovit, we grete zou hertlie wele.

Royal MS., 18 B. VI., 141b. B. M.
644. [Council Of Scotland to James Leirmonth.]
Received his writing by bearer, and saw the King of England's writing to their sovereign, brought by him. Their master rests ever of good mind to keep the peace with his uncle, who seems to have undeservedly conceived suspicion of him. Wrote his instructions at his departing, and since then the attemptates done before the departing of Bute pursuivant, who they believe is now there with him. Since then, notwithstanding any charge sent by the King of England for abstinence, the English have ridden, burnt, harried and slain continually in Scotland, especially Quhitsum, Fyshewyke, Pakstoun, Fowlden, Haymouth, Hupsetlingtoun, and other towns in the Merse, and there is like to be great trouble unless the Princes find hasty remedy. Their master is content to send ambassadors fully instructed to conclude, and writes the answer to the King of England's letters and a supplication for safe conduct (copies enclosed), "quhilk saufconduct ze sall gar speid and send with yis berare with diligence." Because their sovereign understands that there is great "garnising" coming to the Borders of England, and kens not whether they are to invade his realm, "his Grace hes gert sende ma wageours to his bordoures nor we wrait to zou wes send afore to Kelso, for defence alanerlie. And quhair James Doig, solistit be ye counsale of ewill men, had his fute baunde lay in Kelso to ye byrning of Carame and Cornewell, (fn. 12) by ye command gevin him he is brokin and send for to be punist; "and the earl of Huntlie made lieutenant on the Borders, and sent there this day with command to cause the wardens to write to the wardens of England to stop all invasion, and to appoint days of meeting, and make and take redress. Their sovereign will subtract his footmen and garrison from the Borders if the King of England will do the like and abstract his. He must desire the King of England to send sharp command to his wardens to condescend to the abstinence. Assure him, on their honors, that their master desires peace, and could do no less than supply his Border unless he would have suffered his lieges to be burnt, harried and destroyed. There may still be peace, for the damage done is amongst the Borderers, who have always been evil given towards the peace.
Copy, pp. 3.
20 Aug.
R. O.
645. Jehan De Torsy to Wallop.
Last night (ars-soir) the gentleman who brought your letters saw arrive here certain compagnons of Boucqhault, who said that 11 or 12 English horsemen came to them and demanded drink. They brought them 14 or 15 pots of beer, and after they had drunk, they were going to pay, when some compagnons came up, three of whom wore the St. Andrew's Cross, and they had words, so that an Englishman, who is here, struck one of the compaynons with a pike like a halbert, and he seems to be mortally wounded. "Je retins votre homme qui la blesse pource qu'il estoit tart. Je le vous renvoye. Depuis il passa, quelques gensdarmes des miens qui venoient de Boullongne vyrent descendre trois compagnons du bois qui venoient aux carrieres dequoy il y en avoient deux qui portoient escharpres la croix Sainct Andre et l'aultre portoit une robe bigarree a quy il ne vit point de croix." While your man was with me a compagnon of this country spoke to him in English, which I do not understand. Your man said he used injurious words, and so I at once sent him to prison, where he shall remain until I hear from you. An Englishman who makes his abode often at Andre with half a dozen Burgundians, is the cause of all these broils. He was within Tournehan, and goes secretly through the villages. Three days ago they carried off, as prisoners, two labourers of the King's country. I think they have not done well either on your [side] or ours. I would like to ask you to take and punish them or licence me to take them. I have ordered in this town that none depart without leave of his captain.
Last night came news that Yvoie is taken by Mons. d'Orleans, in which were 100 men of arms, 2,000 lanceknights, and 1,000 footmen of the country. They sold their capture well, and many gentlemen of Mons. d'Orleans's household and others were slain in the assault. Ardres, Sunday morning, 20 Aug. Signed.
French, pp. 2. Add.


  • 1. No. 576.
  • 2. The Channel Islands. See pp. 350, 351.
  • 3. The punctuation used in the State Papers here seems to be wrong.
  • 4. No. 804.
  • 5. See No. 327 (3).
  • 6. The page of the transcript containing this portion is missing.
  • 7. See No. 608.
  • 8. See No. 440 (2).
  • 9. Apparently meaning de Sedan, but the report was false both as to him and as to d'Aumale.
  • 10. No. 619.
  • 11. In October, 1538.
  • 12. See No. 638.