Henry VIII: June 1543, 21-25

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Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 18 Part 1, January-July 1543. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1901.

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June 1543, 21-25

21 June.
746. The Council At London to the Council With The King.
Albeit, yesterday, at our departure from Court, we knew the King's pleasure generally of making the intimation to-morrow to the French Ambassador, and accordingly appointed the Emperor's Ambassador to be here at the Sterre Chamber, yet we are ignorant of the King's pleasure what audience should be called, and what delay granted to the French Ambassador "to signify what s[houl]d be said unto him unto his master and to make answer unto the s[am]e, wherein I, the Lord Chancellor, desired my Lord Privy Seal to know the King's pleasure." Being occupied with the matters of Scotland, desire instruction on the premises with speed. "From the Sterre Chamber at one of the clock." Signed : T. Audeley, Chancellor : T. Norffolk : Ste. Winton' : Tho. Westm' : W. Seint John : John Gage.
In Gardiner's hand, p 1. Add. : To our very good lords of the King's Majesty's Privy Council. Endd. : "From the Council at London, xxjo Junii 1543."
21 June.
Add. MS. 32,651, f. 31. B.M. Sadler State Papers, I. 221.
747. Sadler to the Council.
On receipt of letters from the Lord Privy Seal, Mr. Brown and Mr. Paget, from St. Osithes, 12th June, (for Sadler eftsoons to induce the Governor to the apprehension of the Cardinal and Lennox, now that the peace is, "in a manner, fully determined") required access to the Governor, who was then (and still is) sick, at Hamilton, 30 miles hence. The Governor sent the enclosed letter (fn. 1) by David Panter, his secretary and chief counsellor, to know why Sadler desired to speak with him. Told Panter how the cause of delay alleged by the Governor was now removed; and he promised to declare it to the Governor, assuring Sadler that the Governor remained in great choler against the Cardinal and Lennox; but Sadler learns privily that the Cardinal has made such labour for favour that the Governor is induced to forget a great piece of his displeasure towards him.
Having letters from Suffolk touching the entry of the prisoners at Midsummer and the respite of some of them until Lammas, signified the same by Panter; and the Governor has promised the accomplishment thereof. It is impossible for those who shall enter at Midsummer to keep their day; but they shall enter soon after, and Sadler will in next letter certify their names and the names of such as remain until Lammas.
Yesternight received their letters from Pirgo mentioning 16 or 17 sail of Frenchmen seen betwixt Dover and Calais drawing Northwards. A Frenchman is come into Lyghe haven with wines who says he came with the said 16 sail from Diep, and left them, six days ago, between Humber and Flamburgh Head in chase after six sail of Englishmen or Flemings. He says they are all Frenchmen of Diep, come out at their own charge to scour the seas, thinking to meet our Iseland fleet. Caused Angus to send aboard the Frenchman, but could not learn more. The 16 sail are not come into the Firth, and apparently do not purpose drawing to Scotland, but Angus has promised to lay watch on the coasts. Some say that they should hereabouts join 20 or 30 sail of the king of Denmark, and keep the seas against the Emperor and the King, and some that they will land in Scotland and take part with the Cardinal and Lennox against the Governor; but these seem flying tales, for this Frenchman says they are but rovers and never a gentle or honest man captain among them. Advised the Governor, by Panter, to look to it; which may percase stir him against the Cardinal and Lennox. Edinburgh, 21 June. Signed.
Pp. 3. Add. Endd. : 1543.
*** The above is noted (with a list of corrigenda for the text of Sadler State Papers) in Hamilton Papers, No. 386.
21 June.
Add. MS. 32,651, f. 34. B.M. Hamilton Papers, No. 387.
748. Sadler to Suffolk.
Sends herewith letters in answer to those of the King's Council. As for the 16 sail of Frenchmen, enquiry should be made from Berwick to Humber to "know where they become," and the King's navy there warned. The prisoners cannot now enter at Midsummer; but Sadler has sent to the Governor the names of the English prisoners appointed to be respited to Lammas, and also the names of the Scottish prisoners whom the King is content to respite until then. Meanwhile letters are sent out to warn prisoners to their entry, and, for resolution as to which shall remain here till Lammas, Sadler waits to hear again from the Governor, to whom, with Anguish and Casselles, the King referred that matter. Edinburgh, 21 June.
P. S.—This day, Anguish moved for another 100l. besides his wages due on Tuesday sevennight. This is at Suffolk's discretion. Surely the man is at great charge and entertains such a company that all the nobility dread him, goes every where with a great garrison about him and alone upholds the Governor; and if the Governor proceed against the Cardinal and Lennox he must bear the brunt thereof.
Hol., pp. 2. Add. Endd. : 1543.
21 June.
749. Sadler to [Parr.]
Perceived by his letter of 19 June the proceedings of the Scottish wardens touching Swyneho and the other attemptates; and thereupon, because the Governor lies acrased at his house of Hamylton, conferred with Anguish and others of the Council, who have ordered that to the next "day of trew" (appointed, as Parr writes, for Monday next (fn. 2) ) the Justice Clerk here shall repair, with a serjeant at arms, to cause Swyneho to be delivered and see redress made. They seem offended at the lewd proceedings of their wardens, but say that until peace is concluded and proclaimed, they cannot reduce the people to good obedience.
When Nelson comes, I trust to furnish you with two tuns of wine, but you are like to pay sweetly for it, viz. 20l. st., which please send hither to me, or to the captain of Berwyke or Mr. Shelley to be conveyed to me; for, to be plain, I have not enough to spare 20l. and cannot borrow, so that unless my lord Lieutenant help me I know not how to do. Edenburght, 21 June.
Hol., pp. 2. Flyleaf with address lost.
21 June
R.O. St. P., IX. 422.
750. Wallop to the Council.
Received their letter dated Purgo, 17th (fn. 3) inst., by Guysnes, whom he accordingly despatched to Mons. de Beez, whose answer and Wallop's reply are enclosed. Guisnes can relate what was said.
Learnt to-day that the French king wrote on Tuesday last, from Chasteau in Cambresey, to Mons. de Bees, that he could not believe the report that Englishmen had come over sea to do him displeasure (for he was the King's friend); but if they did he would send De Beez 100 men of arms and 1,000 footmen for more surety of that frontier, and keep the rest of his army together. Paris and Normandy have granted pay of 10,000 men for three months against invasion. Some say the siege of Bapham is withdrawn. Last night many horse and foot entered Arde, and all Boullonoyes is now afraid. Some say the Burgundians made a course this morning and took cattle beside Arde, and are now at Tourneham to put men in one of the old towers there. "At the Slewse beside Bruges is arrived 3,000 Spaniards." Guisnes, 21 June. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. Endd. : 1543.
21 June.
751. Oudart Du Bies to Wallop.
Has received his letter by Guynes herald, the bearer, giving warning that if Du Bies invades the Emperor's lands he must, for his King's honor, assist the Emperor's subjects; which is a language not accustomed. Sends this courier to know if Wallop is commanded to make war on him. As to the treaty of Cambray which Wallop's letter mentions; never heard that his master, by breaking any treaty, gave Wallop's king occasion to aid his enemies. Boullogne, 21 June 1543. Signed.
French, p. 1. Add.
R.O. St. P., IX. 422. 752. Wallop to Du Bies.
Has just received his letter in answer to that sent yesterday by Guisnes herald, in which Du Bies finds a language not accustomed and desires to know, by bearer, whether Wallop is commissioned to make war upon him. Has no commission to declare war and what he wrote was for safeguard of his master's honor, as the letter stated. As to what he wrote, if Du Bies invade the Emperor's lands near this frontier he (Wallop) will do no less than he has written. As to the treaty of Cambray, leaves that dispute to their two masters.
French. Copy, p. 1. Headed by Wallop's clerk : "Copy of my letter sent to Mons. de Beez."
21 June.
753. The Patriarch, Marco Grimani, to Cardinal Farnese.
Farnese will already be informed of events of Scotland by the bearer of his letters of the 11th inst., M. David (fn. 4), Scottishman, by whom (although he did not write it) he was asked, in the name of the Cardinal of St. Andrews, if he had power to proceed against certain delinquents. Now a Scottish captain (fn. 5), in the Cardinal's name, has made the same request and (being answered that the writer's powers extended not to proceed against bishops and greater prelates) has urged him to write of it to Farnese, as will be seen by another letter forwarded by the Cardinal of Tornon. The said captain, being come lately from Scotland for aid from the French king, will return into Scotland with artillery, pikes and halberts and 50,000 ducats in money. The said captain has been several times with him, and, speaking of the troubles of Scotland, fears the great power of the king of England, who has formed a design upon it, and the division of the realm both in wish and in faith. Would himself doubt the same, had he not heard that there is a good union of the better Scots most devoted to the Holy See and natural enemies of the English. Prays God to preserve that realm, because the loss of it would greatly hurt the Holy See and the French King. The Queen and the Cardinal have little to do, but hope to lead things in a good direction. The chief difficulty appears to be the election of the Governor, by the whole Council of the realm, to govern until the Daughter is twelve years old; which Governor claims the succession next after her and appears to be of a different mind from the others, and rather inclined to the king of England. * * * Paris, 21 June 1543. Signed : Marco Grimano, Patriarcha.
Italian. Modern extract from a Vatican MS., pp. 2. Headed : Di Marco Grimano, nuntio in Francia, al Card. Farnese.
[22 June.]
R.O. St. P., IX. 408.
754. Ultimatum to France.
[Preamble of the Council's intimation to the French ambassador.]
To maintain the tranquility of Christendom, the King our sovereign joined in close amity with the Emperor; and, to induce the King your master to join them, lately sent his principal king of arms, Garter, with Toyson d'Or, the Emperor's chief king of arms, with good and friendly offers, but safe-conduct was refused to Toyson d'Or, and Garter was so long kept in suspense, that both had to return without executing their charge. Such unheard-of treatment of heralds, who are the only means of continuing peace or ending war, might well offend the Emperor and King, but they have decided to try yet another way, and have commanded us to announce to you (and deliver in writing) certain terms (propos) to be reported to your master and answered within 20 days.
French, pp. 3. Endd. : "The preface spoken by my lord of Norfolk to the French ambassador."
R.O. 2. Draft of the preceding in English; by which it appears that the original wording (which is altered) was that the heralds went to induce Francis to join for the quiet of Christendom and "the more speedy expulse of the Turk, great enemy of the same;" and that they were refused safe-conduct and constrained to return.
In Wriothesley's hand, much corrected, pp. 3. Endd. : Preface.
R.O St. P., IX. 388. 3. [The Council's intimation to the French ambassador.]
The King our Sovereign (considering that the present troubles of Christendom are chiefly caused by the war which the King your master has recommenced against the Emperor, and that the Turk, common enemy of our Religion, daily advances), by advice of the Emperor, requires the King your master to consider that, for some years past, the Turk ceases not his efforts to subdue the lands of the Christians and destroy our Holy Religion.
Also our Sovereign complains, in particular, of the injuries he has suffered from your master, always hoping that, in consideration of the pleasures done him in his necessity, your master would make redress. Our Sovereign's desire for amity is shown by his patience; for, whereas by a treaty of perpetual peace your master is bound to pay 102,104 cr. yearly he has not, for 9 years past, paid one penny, thus showing little regard to his honor or to our Sovereign's friendship. And meanwhile your master has maintained divers of our Sovereign's rebels, as namely the son of a cobbler (fn. 6) (savatyer) who boasted that he was of the blood royal and called himself la Blanche Rose. Likewise, your master procured the late King of Scots to break the peace and invade his Uncle's realm; and, since his death, has sent ambassadors and Scottish subjects into Scotland with offers of aid to continue the war. Also your master's ambassador persuaded our Sovereign to let his merchants go to France for wines, as usual, promising them immunity from Frenchmen and Scots in their passage, when they were betrayed into the hands of the Scots. And lately your master has imprisoned divers of our Sovereign's subjects, merchants and others, without cause, and by recent proclamations in favour of our Sovereign's subjects has drawn them into his country, where, contrary to honor, reason and justice, they are rigorously imprisoned.
These things, together with his desire for the preservation of Christendom against the Great Turk, have moved our Sovereign to join with the Emperor in requiring of your master satisfaction for these griefs and those of the Emperor, which Mons. de Chappuis, his ambassador, here present, will declare.
Our Sovereign, for his private quarrel, requires your master to pay the debts and arrears due, and deliver, in security for the pension in the future, the towns of Boullongne, Ardre, Monstreul, Terrouen and the county of Ponthieu; to release of his subjects with their ships and goods; to abstain from practises with the Scots and others to our Sovereign's detriment; to cease his war against the Emperor, so as to give leisure to resist the Turk; and to indemnify the Emperor, as Chappuis, here present, will declare.
Upon these conditions our Sovereign, with the Emperor's consent, will receive your master in friendship and continue the peace with him. If your master refuse to satisfy these demands, or to give sufficient pledges to do so, within the next 20 days, our Sovereign demands, in addition, the realm of France, the duchies of Normandy, Gascoigne and Guyenne and all the lands which your master has usurped from him, or else will make war against him to bring him to reason; intimating that if the above demands are not accomplished within the said time he (our Sovereign) denounces war against him and will not desist from it without the Emperor's consent.
French, pp. 6. The last half in Mason's hand. Endd. by Paget : The minute of the intimation made to the French ambassador.
R.O. [Spanish Calendar, VI. II., Nos. 163-4. 4. Another copy of § 3, endorsed as the paper read and put into the French ambassador's hands by the duke of Norfolk in the name of the Privy Council, 22 June 1543.
ii. The intimation made at the same time by Chapuys, on the Emperor's behalf, calling upon the French king (1) to desist from amity with the Turk, (2) to satisfy the king of Romans and States of the Empire for damage caused by the Turk's invasion made at his solicitation, and restore Maran to the king of Romans, (3) to cease war against the Emperor and pay for damages, (4) to restore the provinces usurped by him and his predecessors from the Empire, especially Savoy, and compensate the duke of Savoy, (5) to pay the king of France and England all that is due by virtue of the treaties between them, and make reparation of the injuries heretofore declared by the duke of Norfolk. That done, the Emperor, with the consent of his ally the king of France and England, will receive him into amity.
But, if he will not obey such just and amiable admonitions within the time declared by Norfolk, the Emperor, in addition, requires him (1) to restore the duchy of Burgundy, counties of Charlois (sic), &c. (detailed), (2) to restore to the king of France and England what is detained from him, as declared by Norfolk, (3) to restore to the emperor the towns and castles of Hesdyn, Estenay, Ivoix and Dampvilliers, (4) to restore to the Empire Provence and Dauphiné, (5) to fulfil the treaties of Madrid and Cambray, (6) to restore 25,000 cr. which he forced the abp. of Valence to pay, and make reparation for the abp.'s detention.
Otherwise the Emperor will, with the assistance of the king of France and England, continue to make war upon him.
French, pp. 10. Modern transcript from Vienna (where there are two MSS. of § ii. with variations described in the transcript.)
22 June.
755. Suffolk and Tunstall to [Parr].
Where two ships under George Reveley and another captain are charged to bring to London 150 mariners and soldiers, and this day a great number of French ships are said to be off this coast, as ye were advertised last night, the two ships should not depart till they see the sea clear. We require your Lordship in all haste to warn the two ships, which lie about Skaythe Rode or Holy Elande, to take heed of their enemies. Darnton, 22 June.
P.S.—A great ship of three tops rides this day within three miles of Hartilpole "whom they may look upon if there be no mo, having the shore their friends." Signed.
P. 1. Fly-leaf with address lost.
22 June.
R.O. St. P., IX. 424.
756. Seymour and Wotton to the Council.
Wrote to the King the answer made by Mons. de Courrieres and President Score concerning the impost; and, the same day, (fn. 7) advertised the Governor and Company of it. Next afternoon, Tuesday, the merchants began to ship goods; but the officers demanded the impost, saying they had not heard from the Regent to the contrary. Next day, learning this from the Governor, sent to the President, whose answer they wrote to the King's Council through the said Governor. Enclose a letter sent them by the President (fn. 8) at that time. Yesterday, being Thursday, the Governor sent word again that, although suffered to depart, it was to the derogation of their privileges; for they were required (1) to take oath that they carried none but their own goods, (2) to certify everything they carried hence, with the price and how they bought it, (3) to promise that it should be carried nowhere but to England and there distributed and sold, and (4) to pay impost on what was shipped before the Regent's commandment came.
On this, would not complain any more to the President but applied to the Queen, who said that the merchants were to depart freely without breaking of their privileges, but some order must be taken to eschew fraud, and for this she would send the President to the writers this day. This afternoon the President was with them and said that the easiest way to prevent our merchants carrying other men's goods was to take their oaths; as to the promise to carry nowhere but to England, both De Courrieres and he had declared that to be the Regent's pleasure and the writers had found no fault; as to the other points, viz., the selling in England and the receiver's being made privy to everything carried and what was paid for it and taking impost for goods shipped before, no more should be heard of them. Answered that they did wisely to provide against deceit, but must not contravene the intercourse, as by binding the merchants to carry merchandise nowhere but to England, for although both De Courrieres and he used the words pour Engleterre the writers understood them to mean that no goods should be carried for strangers but only for Englishmen. After long reasoning he required them to deliver in writing the faults which they found with the order, and the Queen would answer each point. He then said that a new commandment was sent for our men to pass freely, and doubtless we should hear from Andwarpe that they were gone. "Thus have we never no end of this endless matter," but think it expedient to signify what is done. Send copy of the first commandment sent on Wednesday. (fn. 9) Bruxelles, 22 June 1543. Signed.
Pp. 3. Add. Endd.

Hatfield MS. [Calendar of Cecil MSS., Pt. I., 38.
757. The Impost In Flanders.
At the request of the Queen Dowager of Hungary, Regent, &c., to declare in writing the complaints of the English merchants touching a new imposition "du Cme" and an Act passed on that subject 19 June last, the English Ambassador replies as follows :—
1. That he and his colleague have shown the President in writing a full specification of those grievances, and have received in writing some mere excuses which afford no remedy. 2. That by the first article of those excuses it appears her Majesty has been informed that the exemption from imposts here applies not to English subjects generally but only to the merchants of the English nation subject to the "Courtmaistre" of the said nation; whereas the contrary appears by the 2d article of the treaty of 11 April, 1520, which is confirmed by an article of the treaty of Cambray, 5 August, 1529, and further by an article of the more strict alliance recently made, all which articles are quoted verbatim. 3. In the 2d article the word "quelzconcques" should have been added in accordance with the treaty of 1515, which allows no restriction except on victuals in time of scarcity. 4. As to the 3d, the treaties allow transport to England as well as elsewhere. 5. As to the 4th, speaking of the imposts which the English have paid in past times, it is true they have been accustomed to pay certain tolls (tonlieux), but they are exempt from all imposts by treaties of 1520 and 1495. 6. As to the 5th article, the words "par forme de provision et tant que autrement sera ordonn" would reduce the treaties of 1520 and 1495 to mere provisions. 7. Further observations on the 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th articles showing that both the impost and the Act of 19th June are against the treaties; for which reason the Ambassador requests the Queen to make restitution and release all sureties.
Fr., pp. 18.
22 June.
R.O. St. P., IX. 423.
758. Edmond Harvel to Henry VIII.
Since he wrote on the 17th, letters from Naples, of the 16th, report that the Turk's navy of 200 sail passed Otrento on the 10th towards Sicile. Barbarossa has executed Corsairs who robbed Venetians. The Turk is esteemed to be at Buda. The Queen of Hungary, Friar George and other Hungarians have agreed with him. Ferdinando had made no real provision against him, and now sends the bp. of Vienna to the Emperor for succour. Men despair of parliament between the Emperor and the Bishop, who would not assent to Guasto's entering Parma with 3,000 foot and 400 horse for the Emperor's safeguard. The Emperor was coming to Mantoa, where he gives the duke of Florence possession of all fortresses in return for 150,000 cr. a year and 6,000 footmen paid for 6 months. The Duke pardons all banished Florentines except the Stroci, whose goods are given to the hospital of Florence. French galleys (14 or 22) lately issued out of Toulon, and Doria forthwith left Geane with 48 galleys to "rescontre" with them and so go to Sicile. Venice, 22 June 1543.
Hol., pp. 2. Add.
23 June.
R.O. [Spanish Calendar, VI. II., No. 165.]
759. Chapuys to the Queen of Hungary.
Has received her letters of the 6th (16th?) inst.; and the King and his Council have well taken her answer upon the articles they proposed, and advertisement of the forces of Arschot and De Roeulx. As for the wagons and horses which they will need for their artillery and the carriage of their men, especially horsemen, the Sieur de Chenay on arriving at Calais, for which he left to-day, will advertise her or the King's ambassadors; and as for victuals, the King will allow grain to be had from here and from Calais. After or upon the departure of Garter from Calais, the Deputy received a letter from Du Bies to the effect that he had his King's commission to hear the king of arms, and would make him good cheer and get him brief answer, which would suit him better than to risk himself among men of war of so many different nations, and also the King had no great leisure to communicate with him, being occupied with the war; Du Bies would tell the king of arms something that would be to the singular pleasure and satisfaction of this King. The Council thereupon debated whether they should send the king of arms or not, and sent the earl of Arfort and Sieur de Cheney to ask Chapuys's advice whether to give Garter commission to declare what Thoyson d'Or was to have declared. Answered that he had no power to do this, and did not think that the Queen had; and, even if he had, he would not consent to it; that it was not for their King's honour, whom the French evidently mocked by sending the letter after Garter's return and denying him access to the French king, and that, to intimate the charge, the Ambassador here, who represented his master, was a more authorised person that Du Bies, whatever commission he might have, of which however they had no certainty, and it was mockery to say he would declare a thing of such importance to the king of arms, which would be more fittingly put forward by the ambassador. Finally, on Wednesday, 20th inst., Chapuys being in Court, it was concluded, in accordance with his first opinion, to intimate the charge of the kings of arms to the ambassador. And this was done yesterday after dinner, at Westminster, in presence of all the Council and of several other lords and gentlemen. If Chapuys had commenced the ambassador might have said that he had no charge to hear him. It was, therefore, thought best that Norfolk should speak first; which he did, reading a writing (of which Chapuys will send a copy). After Norfolk had read a part Chapuys declared the summons on the Emperor's behalf, and then Norfolk proceeded to the further demand and declaration of war, and Chapuys, likewise intimated the continuation of war, according to Thoyson d'Or's instructions; and finally both gave the ambassador, in writing, the charge of the kings of arms, in the form shown by the documents (fn. 10) which Chapuys will send.
Returning from Westminster, late, received her letters of the 19th, which he will answer after he has been at Court, and, having here two couriers, of whom she may have need, despatches this bearer without the aforesaid documents. Informs her in confidence, that, yesterday, the Council, after the ambassador left, asked if, on the French raising the siege of Bappaulmes, Mons. de Roeulx would not make some enterprise. Answered that he thought so, if they would make those which had been talked of, and sent men to aid therein besides those whom they send for the capitulated assistance; but at present there is little appearance of inducing them to it, and there is one in the company (fn. 11) who puts forward so many considerations as to spoil all. Perhaps, seeing affairs of France not prospering as people expected, opinion may change. They also asked whether, if more than the stipulated number of horse and foot were sent over, the Emperor would take them into his pay. Answered that he did not know, but would willingly write of it. They said also that Chenay, who was present, led 400 horse, as well to assist the footmen as that he should have men to do notable service (they being gentlemen, the flower of the youth here, among whom would be the ambassador (fn. 12) who is with the Queen). Told them that the Queen was charged to require only footmen, according to the capitulation, but he thought she would not object; and, on his asking how much they esteemed the horseman, Cheyney said that the 400 would count only for 500 foot; although Norfolk would count them at 600 foot, counting three footmen for two horses.
The Council affirm that affairs with Scotland are settled as the King desires, and only remain to be put in writing. London, 23 June 1543.
Has just obtained copy of the writing which Norfolk yesterday read and delivered to the ambassador of France. Sends it to her, to forward with his packet to the Emperor.
French, pp. 5. Modern transcript from Vienna.
23 June.
R.O. [Spanish Calendar, VI. II., No. 166.
760. Chapuys to Granvelle.
The documents herewith show the news here, especially what passed with the French ambassador as regards the summons and intimation of the war. "Et crois bien que, neque vobis neque Plutarco auctore, (fn. 13) ledit ambassadeur a accepte lez escriptz que sur ce luy ont est baillez ne prinse charge d'envoyer en diligence a ceulx et en rendre brefve responce, dont yl a rendu merveilleusement joyeuse la compagnie et speciallement moy pour lez respectz que votre seigneurie peult considerer." Awaits eagerly the Emperor's resolution as to what he will have to solicit here. London, 23 June 1543.
French, p. 1. Modern transcript from Vienna.
23 June.
761. Suffolk and Tunstall to [Parr].
This morning we received a letter from Court declaring that the truce now ending shall be prorogued to 1 Aug., at the request of the Scottish ambassadors, and ordering proclamation of this to be made before the expiring of the truce. Your lordship must enter this new prorogation upon the last proclamation, and write to your deputy wardens to proclaim it in time. See that the thing you intend to do to those who attempt against the truce is first done; and your letter of this morning, to Suffolk, "containing that something should be done, was stayed unto it be done, and not sent forth, for that purpose." Darnton, 23 June. Signed.
P.S.—In your letters this morning you write not what is become of Robt. Colingwood, "nor which Robert Colingwood it is, whether the chief or the other."
P. 1. Flyleaf with address lost.
23 June.
R.O. St. P., IX. 427.
762. Seymour and Wotton to Henry VIII.
The Queen Regent, hearing that a certain Scot who was a great favourer of the enemy should pass this way, has arrested, on suspicion, one that was going towards Lorraine, who calls himself Alex. Gordon, brother to the earl of Huntley, and she thinks that Henry should be apprised of it. The Grand Esquire, Boussu, is returned from the Emperor, who, he says, may speak with the Bishop of Rome at Parma, but will not tarry but hasten to join the lantzknechts and horsemen prepared for him in Germany. The Prince has been these two days within a mile of Heynsborgh, and the Clevois do not give battle. French prisoners say that their King will besiege Avesnes, and that Mons. du Bies came in haste to show him that a great number of Englishmen were come over, which moved him not a little. Bruxelles, 23 June 1543. Signed.
P. 1. Add. Endd.
24 June.
R.O. [Spanish Calendar, VI. II., No. 167.
763. Chapuys to the Queen Of Hungary.
Wrote yesterday. This morning the King, solicited to hasten the succour, answered that he was attending to it as carefully as possible and it only depended upon Cheyney, who has the conduct of it, being ready; and that the men already over, who, as the Council showed yesterday by a list, are 5,500 foot, could not be sent forward until Cheney's arrival. There was no one there fit for the charge and it was better to defer a little than hazard his men and reputation. On Chapuys's suggesting, for the second time, by advice of some of the Council, the captain of Guisnes as a person of great experience and in the confidence of De Roeulx, the King answered that he did not expect to be counselled to deprive of its chief, at this season, the place of Guisnes, which was one of the strongest of Christendom. Showed him that there were gentlemen at Guisnes sufficient to guard it now when it was not likely (the Emperor's men and his being in the field) to incur any danger. He began to be piqued, saying that a friend ought not to be pressed to do what might turn to his disadvantage; and Chapuys then remitted all to his wisdom, reminding him that his men over sea were doing no service; as he has also reminded the Council, whom he finds inclined to advance affairs, but for the two (fn. 14) of whom he wrote some time ago, especially Cheney, who indirectly puts forward so many considerations that the aid may be said to be retarded by him.
As to the contradiction and present of the English merchants the King says that they will do their duty, and he has commissioned the Council to deal with them. Believes that if, without declaring anything to the ambassadors, she had given him commission to make the answer, the present would have been better.
The King rejoices at the retreat of the French who were before Bappaulmes and especially at their loss of 600 men and two or three captains, which he recited to Chapuys, adding that he was astonished to hear nothing of the enterprise of Monstreul. Answered, as she wrote, that De Roeulx was only waiting for the French to lay siege to some place. He was pleased to hear that she had ordered the preparation of the army by sea in accordance with the capitulation, for the enemy are not asleep in strengthening themselves by sea. The Council say that the King has ordered an inestimable quantity of victuals to be sent over, 4,000 or 6,000 qr. of wheat, 10,000 qr. of malt (grains) for beer, 20,000 ducats worth of cheese, and an innumerable quantity of bacon, beans (? feues) and other things; affirming that 6,000 more men than are required for the aid will shortly be sent over.
Would not speak to the King about the safeconducts, considering what he has divers times said of it and that there was no time to explain the whole; but debated it with the Council, who, at the beginning, were very irritated but softened a little, although truly they do not like it. However, they have released without difficulty three ships of the Vuychardimes laden with wines, which were taken three or four days before.
In his haste, the day before yesterday, forgot to write that the French ambassador made no answer to the intimation of war and only said that, to pass into France, Garter needed no safeconduct. Being told that Garter was right in asking for it, seeing that the King's last ambassador (fn. 15) had been unjustly arrested there, the French ambassador attempted to excuse the arrest, but was confuted by the ambassador who had been detained, who answered him very well before the whole assembly. The French ambassador, moreover, said that the term of 20 days seemed very short, protesting, however, that he would not waste time by asking to have it prolonged. Yesterday the said ambassador sent to tell the Council that his master wished him to advertise the King, his good brother, that his affairs were in the best possible state, and he was now with 16,000 lanzknechts, 25,000 adventurers, 1,800 light horse and 2,000 men of arms, and expected moreover 10,000 Almains and 12,000 Swiss; and that he was sending forward Marshal Ennebault with a good band and would shortly follow in person. Of these news this King made a jest as did also the Council. London, 24 June 1543.
The King has just sent, at 6 p.m., news of the success of the Prince of Orenges about Hainsbergue, of which he shows himself marvellously glad.
French, pp. 4. Modern transcript from Vienna.
24 June.
R.O. St. P., V. 308.
764. Suffolk and Tunstall to Parr.
In his letter of yesterday he writes that 10 Scottishmen with 18 horses are taken on the East Marches and brought into England, and also three taken with Sir Ralph Eure's company, and asks how to entreat them. They should be entreated well or otherwise as Swynnowe and the constable of Forde are entreated, but surely kept. At the day of truce, it is to be answered that this was done, without the knowledge of the authorities, by such as had their friends and gear taken and could get no redress because of the deferring of the days of truce and refusal of justice, although the Governor had ordered redress. The Borders must be put on their guard against the Scots revenging it. Darnton, 24 June. Signed.
P.S.—If the Scots attempt revenge, they must be paid home by those who suffer; without command by Parr or his deputy-wardens, who, however, shall give them advice and see that they do it strongly.
Pp. 2. Flyleaf with address lost.
24 June.
765. Garrisons and Ships.
Newcastle upon Tyne, 24 June, 35 Hen. VIII. :—Brief declaration by John Uvedale, treasurer appointed to pay the earl of Angwishe, Geo. Douglas, the lord Warden and the garrisons on the Borders, and also the charges of ships, since 25 May last; of which a signed copy is delivered to the duke of Suffolk, lieutenant in the North.
Showing that on 25 May he had (partly in broken and refuse gold and light crowns) 5,743l. 7s. 1½d., whereof he has paid :—
By Norfolk's warrants : To James Lawsone, Hen. Aundirson and Robt. Thomsone, of Newcastle, sums of 115l., 35l. and 30l. odd, respectively, for victualling, tonnage, &c., of their ships the Elizabeth, Antony, and John Evangelist; and to John Jenyns of Newcastle 17l. 9s. for victual provided for these ships when in the Frethe in Scotland anno 34 Henry VIII.
By Suffolk's warrants : To Angwishe in prest 100l.; and for wages of himself and Geo. Douglas, and their petty captains and 200 men, for 70 days ending 2 July, 518l. To Petrus Franciscus, trumpeter, for 70 days ending 2 July, 5l. 5s. Total 623l. 5s.
By lord Lisle's warrants : To Jas. Lawsone for victualling, tonnage, &c., of the Roberte, "being a victualler unto the said four ships at such time as they were in the Frethe in Scotland," 27l. 2s. 5d., also for victualling, &c., of the Elsabethe from 15 Jan. to 8 March, when she was discharged, 87l. 18s. 11d. To Wm. Woodhous, Dunstan Newdigate, Laur. Folberie, and George Riveley, captains of four ships appointed to keep the North Seas, for two months ending 21 June, 221l. 17s. 6d.; and for tonnage, &c., of the ships, as appears by accounts taken by Robt. Lewen and Geo. Riveley, 60l. 4s. 8d.
By lord Parr's warrants : To lord Parre, Sir Robt. Bowes, Stephen Metcalf, trumpeter, and the garrison of 459 men, for wages of themselves, captains, &c. (items detailed), until 2 July, 754l. 2s. 2d.
Remainder 3,769l. 0s. 14½d.
Estimate that the monthly charge of the lord Warden, garrisons, &c., is 898l. 7s. 4d. Signed : Jo. Vuedale.
Large paper, pp. 2.
[24] June.
766. Seymour and Wotton to Henry VIII.
This morning, at 1 a.m., their neighbour, the master of the Posts, sent to declare news from the camp that went to the rescue of Henesberge, viz. that, yesterday afternoon, the armies of the Emperor and the duke of Cleves met "and that the Emperor's folkes wan the battell." Brewselles, this morning, 2 a.m. [23 June]. (fn. 16) Signed.
P.S—After writing the above, I went and spake with the party that was at the camp, who says that the Clevoys gave three alarms the night before, and yesterday the Prince arrayed his men at day break and marched towards the Gelders, who were in order of battle with ordnance bent upon our folks, but, seeing our men not afraid, fled, leaving ordnance and everything behind. In the pursuit the Prince's horsemen slew a great number and took many prisoners.
In Seymour's hand, p. 1. Add. Endd. : 1543.
25 June.
767. Henry VIII. to Maltravers and Wallop.
Henry Palmer, bailiff of Guisnes, has signified a secret offer by one of Arde to fire the town house of Arde, in his keeping, in which is much munition, artillery and victuals. Has commanded Palmer to open the matter to them, that they may consider the possibility of surprising the town in the confusion which would ensue. The destruction of the house, &c., would be worth the hire, and "if there might also ensue the surprising of the town we would, as you know there is cause, be glad of it." If it is to be done Wallop shall execute it, taking sufficient men from Guisnes and Calais, as well labourers as of the crew, and such captains as he pleases.
Draft, pp. 6. Endd. : "Mynute to my lord Deputy of Calays and Mr. Wallop, xxvo Junii 1543."
25 June.
768. Tunstall to [Parr].
Replies to his of the 24th June that the lord Lieutenant has sent his of yesterday and to-day to Court, "with great discourse of the misorder of the Scottish borders and of the slackness of the wardens of the same;" wherein my lord Lieutenant needed no spur. Wrote so effectually that answer cannot be long in coming, and meanwhile their counsel of yesterday (to let nothing appear the deed of Parr or his deputies) should be followed; but those who act should be advised to go strongly, beware of bushments, and avoid "burning or murder if it may be eschewed." Darnton, 25 June. Signed.
P. 1. Flyleaf with address gone.
25 June.
Sadler State Papers, I. 224.
769. Sadler to Suffolk and Tunstall.
This morning received theirs of 23 June with the Scottish ambassadors' letters to the Governor. Yesternight the Governor sent word that, being recovered from his sickness, he would be at Edinburgh to-morrow, and would then commune of the matters which Sadler notified by David Panter, touching the Cardinal and Lennox; also that he had by letter warned all prisoners of their entry, and would resolve who should remain till Lammas when he spoke with Sadler; as to the English prisoners to be likewise respited, named in the enclosed schedule, he had written to their takers for their respite. Will, at his coming, move him in this, and for proclamation of the truce till 1 August. Can learn nothing more of the French navy. The Frenchman at Leith will not confess otherwise than they (the navy) are adventurers from Diep looking to join with, at least, 20 sail of the king of Denmark, and so keep the seas against the King and Emperor.
Headed : To my lords of Suffolk and Durham, 25 June 1543.
25 June.
770. H. Lord Maltravers to the Council.
Having just received the enclosed letters, I feigned in my answer to be ignorant of the day, doubting whether the King would have me advertise "him." Fears still to be pressed in this behalf. In sundry letters Maltravers and Wallop have written for slings for this town and Newnham Bridge and 3,000 pikes for this and Guisnes. Of the pikes 1,500 are arrived, with a letter from Serjeant Ouxley that 1,500 more are coming and no slings of iron can be had. As the number of men for Guisnes is increased, has given Wallop 600 pikes more than he requested. Begs them to consider the lack of slings. Has dismounted some here and sent them to Newnham Bridge. Calais, 25 June 1543. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. Endd.
25 June.
R.O. St. P., IX. 428.
771. Seymour and Wotton to Henry VIII.
This day the Regent sent for them and declared the danger the country is in, the enemy entering further into it; and desired that she might have Henry's aid sent as soon as possible, and notice of the numbers and manner of men, so that she might prepare either to meet the enemy or otherwise as her Council should advise. If Henry's men join the Duke and the 3,000 Spaniards new come and the Prince, who comes back out of Juliers, they will deliver the Frenchmen battle; the Prince's men being encouraged and desirous to fight. The French king lies at Maroles in Hainault. They have taken 2 or 3 towns of no defence, as Landryssy and Maulbeuge, and destroyed the country. People round here bring in their goods. Letters are intercepted in which the French king writes to the duke of Cleves that 10,000 gentlemen, all footmen, are coming to join him, and that he himself will meet him. The Prince is expected at Court today. The Scot of whom they wrote had passports of the king of Denmark and duke of Cleves; and a letter found on him was endorsed "Generoso Alexandro Gordon Huntley comiti in Scotia et sororio Regis ibidem, amico suo." Beg Henry to signify whether he shall be kept safe. Bearer, Mr. Bellingyam, Henry's servant, can describe the revietnalling of Heynsborgh; and desires, for his learning, to be sent over hither with Henry's men. Bruxelles, 25 June 1543. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. Endd.


  • 1. No. 734.
  • 2. 25th June.
  • 3. Qu. 18th? See No. 730.
  • 4. David Bonar. See No. 494.
  • 5. James Stewart. See page 332.
  • 6. Through a curious misreading the word, "savatyer" in § 4, has been translated "knight of the Garter" in the Spanish Calendar.
  • 7. 18 June.
  • 8. No. 744.
  • 9. 20 June. But the commandment referred to must be No. 737, which was not only dated 19 June, but according to President Schore (No. 744) was despatched the same day.
  • 10. See No. 754.
  • 11. Cheyney. See No. 763.
  • 12. Sir Thomas Seymour.
  • 13. There seems to be some reference here to Granvelle's refusal in 1528 to carry from Francis a letter of defiance to his master. See Lanz Corresp. des Kaisers Karl V., i. 265.
  • 14. The Bishop of Westminster and Cheyney. See No. 259, p. 147, where "Winchester" is unfortunately a misprint for "Westminster."
  • 15. Paget.
  • 16. Added by Wotton, who, however, seems not to have begun a new day at midnight.