Henry VIII: August 1516, 21-30

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Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 2, 1515-1518. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1864.

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August 1516

21 Aug.
Calig. E. II. 139 B. M.
Sent lately certain "affixions" made by the French elect, notwithstanding the process committed by the Pope to the two Cardinals. They are set up in all places of Flanders and the temporal lordship of the Bishop. Has caused them to be taken down, and copies of the said Cardinals' inhibition affixed, with a subscription showing that the elect had incurred excommunication. Wolsey should have a commission to some one in these parts to "decern the said affixes." The Abbot of St. Amand in Pabulo Tornacensis diœcesis, præpos[itus] ... divæ Pharaeldis Gandensis, et Abbas Sancti M[artini] in Pratis juxta Tornacum, would be very suitable persons. Is in urgent need of money. Tournay, 21 Aug.
Hol., pp. 3, mutilated. Add.: [T]o my Lord [C]ardinal's good grace.
22 Aug.
Er. Ep. VIII. 28.
John would have gained a beating had not More stepped in to save him; for as soon as he heard Erasmus was staying at Rochester he paid him a visit, as if he never expected to see him again. Ammonius is always catching at occasions of sending presents; would have sent back his last had not More dissuaded him. Is much pleased with the handsome white horse Ammonius had sent, but would rather have played the thief with the Abp. of York, Colet or Urswick, the last of whom promised a horse, and will certainly keep his word: "idque ad calendas non Græcas sed Octobres." Will write from Brabant to York and Larke. Rochester, 11 Kl. Sept. 1513.
22 Aug.
Vit. B. XIX. 230. B. M.
Has heard through his ambassadors, especially John Hesdin, the kindness and friendship of Wolsey towards him. Thanks Henry for the payment of the 60,000 fl. Does not desire to have money gratis, but promises to repay what the King has remitted through the Friscobalds. Ympst, 22 Aug. 1516. Signed.
Lat., pp. 2, mutilated.
Town of Oxford.—M. Bp. of Llandaff, Th. Abbot of Abingdon, John Haynes, mayor, Ric. Eliott, serjeant at law, Sir Th. Feti, place. Sir Wm. Rede, Sir Simon Harecourte, Sir Wm. Barantyne, Th. Unton, Wm. Fermer, Wm. Yong, Wm. Bulcombe, John Heede, John Broke and Ric. Millett. Westm., 22 Aug.
Pat. 8 Hen. VIII. p. 1, m. 1d.
23 Aug.
Calig. B. I. 150. B. M. Ellis, 1 S. I. 131.
2293. DACRE to WOLSEY.
Has received a letter from Clarencieux for Wolsey, another for himself. It depends on the answer of France coming by Lafayete what shall be done. Labors to sow debate between the Duke and the lords. For that purpose keeps secretly in his house the Master of Kilmawers. Has sent secret messages to Albany. Rewards 400 Scotch outlaws for burning in Scotland. Sent on the 8th the Master of the College of Graistok into Scotland to levy the Queen's feoffment. Ros Herald and Davy Purves serjeant at arms go with him to note if any resist. Kirkoswald, 23 Aug. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add.: To my Lord Cardinal's grace.
24 Aug.
Giust. Desp. I. 281.
2294. SEB. GIUSTINIAN to the DOGE.
Has received their letters announcing the plunder of Vicenza, &c., and one of the negotiations here. On hearing it Wolsey said, he saw that Venice wanted Verona, and she should have it and be reconciled to the Emperor. He said that he had received a letter from the Pope that day, stating that France promised the Emperor not only to restore Brescia but to sacrifice Venice to Maximilian for 200,000 crowns; that the mediator in this matter was De Chievres, ambassador of the Catholic King, to whom the King of France has promised great presents. Then an attendant brought an extract of a letter from Rome, dated the 4th, unsigned, and at the foot of the paper were the words Wolsey had told him. If the Signory observe Francis wavers, this will help their decision. Wolsey declared that the French were the Signory's worst enemies. Sebastian would not venture an opinion. Stated to the Cardinal his wish to visit the King, who is some hundred miles away, taking his pleasure with the Queens of England and Scotland. Wolsey told him that the King did not wish to be troubled, and perceiving that he would be displeased had Sebastian gone without his consent, the latter declined, and left it to Wolsey to acquaint the King with all that had passed. Wolsey lamented the sack of Vicenza. London, 24 Aug. 1516.
24 Aug.
R. O.
In behalf of Damoiselle Marie, daughter of John Dieryxz, native of Reymerswale, widow of John de Nivelle, formerly pensionnaire of Middlebourg, who has complained to Henry, at Greenwich, of wrongs done to her upon the sea by Thos. Vowell, in a ship called The Christopher, when she purposed to visit Mons. St. Jacques, and thence to go to Civille to Pedro de Palmer, to whom she is promised in marriage. The goods of which she was wronged are valued at 280l. Fl. Brussels, 24 Aug. 1516.
ii. THE SAME to the QUEEN.
On the same subject. Brussels, 24 Aug. 1516.
iii. The SAME to WOLSEY.
On the same subject. Brussels, 24 Aug. 1516.
Copies, Fr., pp. 3.
Galba, B. Iv. 146.
B. M.
2. Original of § iii. Signed.
Fr., p. 1, mutilated.
24 Aug.
P. S.
2296. For JOHN DYMMOK, gentleman usher of the Chamber.
Release, as comptroller of Tournay, of 1,575l. 14s. 5 ½d. received through Sir Rob. Dymmok, late treasurer of Tournay, and of 50l. 14s. 2d., received for the King's use as the price of 163 hides; which sums were expended in victualling Tournay. Eltham, 24 Aug. 8 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 24 Aug.
Pat. 8 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 18.
24 Aug.
S. B.
2297. For JOHN ESTON, cooper of London.
Licence to import 500 tuns of Gascon wine and Toulouse woad. Westm., 24 Aug. 8 Hen. VIII.
25 Aug.
Vit. B. XIX. 231. B. M.
Wrote last ... "at the Emperor's desire, made by Doctor Mo[raton]," who had sent an obligation on parchment, [signed with his] own hand and seal, to remain in Wingfield's hands. Wrote an [answer] from the said town [Inspruck] to Wolsey's letter, [and one from] Henry, dated 11th inst. [On receipt] of the same left Inspruck, and this day "at vij. in the mornynge" waited on [the Emperor] "at a castle of his, standing upon an high mounteeyn na[myd] ...," where the Emperor informed him that since the 18th [he had sent] letters to his ambassadors in England [of] the same, with the minute of a bond. He said also he had had from his ambassadors letters of the 11th inst., informing him that Henry had sent a bill of exchange for him to Wingfield, when he decided [to start for] the Lowe Countrie. Wingfield replied, "he had recevyd advise of it," but it was not yet in his hands. He also informed Wingfield that he heard from his [ambassadors] with the King Catholic that "the Lorde Shevyrs and the Chaunceler" had gone to [Noyon] to conclude with the French. He hopes the summer will not [pass without] bringing the enterprise to the desired end. For he declared ... only avysid to the Pope "that he desyryth noothinge moore thanne [to see the] conclewsyon takyn betwixe youre highnesse and the sayde Kinge, [and tha]t he is verily determined to pay the 1,500 horsemen which be [on this s]ide the Po, ever since the beginning of May, at their own cost." The Emperor said he had sent for the army of Naples, and wanted 16,000 men to join them and the said horsemen, as he is obliged to go to great expense in succouring Verona, where it is necessary to keep a large force to prevent the enemy from returning and taking it, which they will do easily; for the provisions of corn and wine have been so much damaged by them that it is not possible to victual a force large enough to keep it. Considering these circumstances, he hopes the French will not be allowed any advantage.
He said also he had heard from Galeazzo, who asked for 10,000 fl. to pay 2,000 Swiss for a month for an enterprise on the city of Combe. * * * Ten thousand Swiss were set forth, [Affairs] in Italy were never in greater hazard. Finally the Emperor showed him "with how great [secrecy he had] conveyid hym sylfe so far forth from his counsel," so that none can tell his intention, [nor where] he will go. He has told them he will not leave the confines of the Tyrol until he is sure of the King Catholic. He ordered Doctor [Marraton] to bring to Wingfield in this town a minute of the obligation. As Wingfield was writing the Emperor sent one of his [council] named Blasyus, with a credence requesting him to go to Augsburg, and saying he would send ... to him declaring his intentions. Purposes to set forward tomorrow. Fiessen, "the 25th ..." (fn. 1)
Hol., pp. 4, mutilated. Add. Endd.: Sir Robert Wyngfild, 25 Augusti; with the copie of the Emperor's obligation, which is enclosed and dated "in castro ... die Augusti 1516."
25 Aug.
R. O.
With the letters of the Cardinal of Sion to Ammonius he will receive the Cardinal's letters to Pace. If he is not sent for they will never see him again. It rains so hard that he is expecting the deluge, and for the first time in his life he believes the prognosticators (mathematici). Jacobo Gambaro was to leave Coire on the Grison on the 18th, with 4,000 foot. A Spaniard of high birth flies to the city (Rome) to arrange a peace between the Pope and Francisco Maria, who calls himself Duke of Urbino in his edicts, protector of the Church, and enemy of the Florentines. Has heard nothing of the recall of the Bp. of Veroli by the Swiss. Thinks that Sion speaks from conjecture. Is tired of his occupation. The beggars are innumerable, and he is obliged to give to them all. The gold of Midas would not satisfy them. Is to give Erasmus his letters if he is in England. (fn. 2) Does not know whether Sion has written to Wolsey of the French negociation. Constance, 25 Aug.
Lat., pp. 2. Copy, in Pace's own hand, and headed: "Ri. Paceus And. Ammonio."
R.O. 2300. PACE to WOLSEY.
The French King is endeavouring to buy the Duke of Bari on the conditions under mentioned, and to make him quit Germany. The Duke has informed Pace of everything, and will do nothing without the consent of the Emperor and Henry, although the former keeps him so straitly that he suffers from hunger.
The above is in cipher, in Pace's hand, but not signed. What follows is in plain Latin, in a different hand.—The Duke of Bari is to resign his right to Milan to the French King for 100,000 cr. of the sun, of which half shall be paid before he leaves Germany. The King shall procure him to be made Cardinal, with benefices worth 50,000 crown a year, paying him meanwhile 40,000 cr. a year, &c.
Pp. 2. Add.: Cardinali Ebor.
25 Aug.
R. O.
2301. The DUKE OF BARRY to PACE.
A Benedictine monk from Dr. Otrechi informs him that peace has been concluded between the Emperor, the King Catholic, and the King of France. Otrechi advises him to yield to the King of France, who will promote him to the cardinalate; that it is no use trusting to the Germans for aid, but he should follow the example of his brother the Duke Maximilian, who lives comfortably in France. Had replied that he did not want the cardinalate or any other gifts from France. The monk was going to the Cardinal of Sion and to Visconti till he heard that the roads were guarded. Trent, 25 Aug.
Added in cipher, in Pace's hand: "The Duke of Barry sende thes lettre to me in cifers."
Lat., p. 1.
25 Aug.
Vit. B. III. 72. B. M.
Hopes that Wolsey will understand from the letters dated Trent, of the 3rd inst., that he has executed his commission to Cardinal Sion. Hearing, however, of the deaths of Cardinal St. Severin and of the proctor maintained by Wolsey at the Papal court, has been obliged to come to Rome, as he will write fully to Ammonius. Beseeches Wolsey's assistance, or will be obliged to beg. Rome, 25 Aug. 1516.
Hol., Lat., p. 1, badly mutilated. Add. in a modern hand.
26 Aug.
Galba. B. IV. 147. B. M.
Has received his letters by Giles Ringot. Thanks him for his decision in the affairs of his brother and himself. In his letters of the 24th, desired Tuke to show Wolsey the Scotch news he had learned at Antwerp. Since his return, has seen the Chancellor, who told him they had concluded the desired peace and the marriage between their master and the French King's daughter. There is now no cause that can engender war in Christendom, except the grudges about Verona and Tournay. The Chancellor says, though they have provided 15,000 ducats for Verona, for the month of September, it is not likely the Emperor can keep it. The French refused to desist from assisting the Venetiaus. The Pope is sending into England a personage who will pass by this court, and who has full power to enter into a defensive league in the Pope's name. On Thursday next the Provost of Cassel leaves for England to explain the proceedings at Noyon. He will bring with him a copy of the treaty. Very few are satisfied with the proceedings ... yesterday to France, to take the French King's oath to the treaty, and the Lord Dorval to come hither. There is less preparation than ever for the going into Spain. Some think they will take occasion to go by France. The Frisians have abandoned the siege. The King's army has followed them. It is retained for one month, to expire on the 2nd Oct. The Admiral is come from Zealand, to confer, it is said, about the voyage, but not ten in a hundred believe the King will go this year. Is to be with the ambassador of Arragon this afternoon. Brussels, 26 Aug.
Hol., pp. 3, mutilated. Add.: To my Lord Cardinal's grace. Endd.
26 Aug.
R. O.
2304. JAMES MEIGER, burgomaster, and the TOWN COUNCIL of BASLE, to HENRY VIII.
Seconding the request contained in their confederates' letters touching Daniel de Oringen, goldsmith of Basle, and the jewels and silver taken from him at Calais by the Daciarii. 26 Aug. 1516.
Lat., p. 1. Add. and endd.
26 Aug.
S. B.
Grant of land in Rederhith, Surrey, to support a solemn anniversary for the souls of the King's parents: on surrender by Gerard Danett of patent 27 Oct. 7 Hen. VIII. It appears by inquisition taken at Suthwerk, 9 May 8 Hen. VIII. before Hen. Saunder, escheator, that Sir Hen. Lovell was seized in tail male of the said land, with remainder to Fras. Lord Lovel, attainted; that Sir Hen. Lovell died 13 June 4 Hen. VII., without male heirs; and that the said land is held of the Abbot of Bermondsey as of his manor of Rederhith. Del. Westm., 26 Aug. 8 Hen. VIII.
Pat. 8 Hen. VIII. p. 1, m. 7.
26 Aug.
P. S.
2306. For JOHN SALESBURY, sewer of the Chamber.
To be keeper of Gorssnodeok park, in Denbigh, Marches of Wales, with 2d. a day: on surrender of patent 16 June 5 Hen. VIII. granting the same to W. Wylock and the said John, in survivorship. Corff Castle, 24 Aug. 8 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 26 Aug.
Pat. 8 Hen. VIII. p. 1, m. 9.
26 Aug.
Er. Ep. VIII. 27.
Did not dare ask Erasmus to stay even two days, as he seemed in such a hurry to get away; will venture, however, though all are not like the Bishop of Rochester. Is not surprised his hunting proved unsuccessful. It is a new kind of metamorphosis to transform books into horses. Ammonius has received the letters Erasmus left for More. Will look to his business, but he must not expect haste, the passages are beset with soldiers. Compliments to the Bp. of Rochester. Westm., 7 kl. Sextil. 1513.
27 Aug.
Vit. B. III. 70. B. M.
Received his letter of the 18th ult. by the Ricasoli. Can come to no certain conclusions from his letter. Suspects that some of them have been lost on the road, because letters have come from Lyons of the 13th inst ... Wrote to him yesterday by a courier, "... passo di qui che venia dInghilterra; il quale corr[iero] none mai arrivato;" perhaps he is taken by the French. Has been abused for the slowness of his correspondence by Tuke; will be better informed in future. Campucci makes him despair of bringing Balbi's case to a conclusion; he has told so many lies about it these two years past, and always excuses himself by the gout.—" ... quella sfortunata de mia sorella, madre, et ... infelice ribaldo, che more di fame, et voi non [lo] credete." Is in great anxiety. Ammonius has often promised to ask the Cardinal in his favor. The money was paid to Hadrian, with much trouble, at Lyons. Desires him to send a copy of his agreement made with Hadrian when Ammonius took the office. The magnifico Lorenzo has been made Duke of Urbino, and invested with the duchy. Bonvix left here about ten months ago, in disgrace, and is going to Niccolao in Flanders. ... by his friendship with De la Pole, who is in France, "sapra da ... dere mille tristisie; e quando cosi sia, Lorenzo di ... dovra fare male che anco lui dovre pure ... volta patire di tanti soi ribalderie." M. Marchio, servant of Card. Sion, has come here, thinking to manage his master's affairs by [his influence with] Card. San Severino. Helps him as much as he can, considering the French interest with the Papal court.
Began this letter eight days ago, hoping to find some way of sending by Lyons. Does not suppose it will have to wait ten days. Ammonius' letter of the 10th has arrived, very brief, and mostly in cipher. Refers again to Campucci and Hadrian's payment. Sends him a letter which goes to the Master of the Rolls. If there be any complaint of its delay, tell him it was addressed "Puntestal" for "Tundestal."
Is to tell Wolsey he cannot give him any positive answer about the indulgences for York, nor yet of those other innovations at Cambridge, because for two months the Pope has done no business, or very little. Worcester's chamberlain is very negligent, and he thinks of getting rid of him. Rome, 27 Aug. 1516.
Hol., Ital., badly written and much mutilated, pp.
28 Aug.
Vit. B. III. 73. R. M.
In recommendation of Johannes Anglicus. Windsor, 28 Aug. 1516. Signed.
Lat., p. 1. Add.
28 Aug.
Vit. B. XIX. 234. B. M.
Wrote last [from] Fiessyn the [25th of] this month, and enclosed ... and the minute of another, informing the King that he intended to come to this city. Yesternight was at a town six Dutch miles from this, where he received a letter from Dr. Marroton, which he quotes in full, dated at the village of R[ute near the] Castle of Erenberge, the 26th of the same. It was to the effect that the Emperor had called Marroton into his presence alone, and told him in the lingua Brabantinica that Chievres and the Chancellor had returned and declared at a secret council: (1) That the marriage of the King Catholic with Renée is broken off, and a new one made with Anne daughter of the present King of France. (2) That the King of France has renounced the action which he had [proposed] for the kingdom of Naples; "et nulla est facta [mentio de rebus] Navarræ." (3) That if the King of France die without heir male, the duchy of Milan [is to revert] to the King Catholic "in subsidium ma[trimonii]." (4) As to the Venetians, the French are unwilling to lay aside their ... but if the Emperor will renounce the right he pretends to the cities [of Brescia] and Verona, he shall have from the Venetians 200,000 f[1.]; [if] the Emperor is unwilling, the King Catholic will help him [against the] Venetians, on condition that he lay not [hands on the duchy] of Milan. Marroton replied, that in his opinion "nullum est ... istius pacis," nor is any mention made of England ... except as touching Verona. He replied, "Tu verum d[icis] ... et tradimenta; ideo vade et scribere oratori [Angliæ] ... opinionem suam. Nolo respondere illa ..."
Wingfield answered this letter ... and prayed him to tell the Emperor that the said tidings were so important, and varied so much [from th]ose which the Emperor showed him at his last visit, that he could give no opinion, as "an advice of counsell" to the Emperor, but would "saye as me semyd nessessari" to Marroton, And first, that whereas "always hitherto the Emperor's Majesty hath peculiarly suffered his bounty and goodness to vanquish his great wisdom and experience, yet now me seemeth his goodness ought give place to the other twain," so as to take vengeance on those who desire to separate him from his tried friends; and the more speedily he does it the more throughly will he confirm his friends, and strike his enemies with fear and confusion. As to the four articles in Maroton's letter, the first pleases him well; since, as the first marriage is dissolved, the second will have but little effect; for if the King Catholic can wait for the growing up of the Princess of France, he will be glad [to wait] that of the English Princess, Henry's daughter. "... th a noothir manner of possybylite thanne the Pryncesse ... comyn of a race which is neeythir halte or lame ..." Could give no opinion on the other articles, except to desire the Emperor "to reste fermely ... noon oothir but very such as he hath jugid all ... and treasons, and that it maye lyke his ma[jesty] with all diligence the high perfection of his greet ... so that by the meane the said delusions and tre[asons shall] be discovyrd," and the traitors punished.
Since Wingfield has been here, Blasyus of the Emperor's Council, named in [his] said letter of the 25th, has come to him with a credence from the Emperor desiring him to declare to Jamys Fukkyr, principal merchant of this [town], the amity between the Emperor and Henry is as firm as it ever was, and that Henry is d[etermined] to assist him. [Wingfield said] that in his opinion in a few days Henry would send a gr[eat] sum to these parts, praying the Fukkars to prepare so that matters may advance, because it is notorious what damage happened of late from money not being in time. Blasius also desired him from the Emperor to get the Hugstettyrs and the Belzers taken into faith again; for since the return of the Swiss all the wor[ld] has thought that all friendship was [at an end] between the Emperor and Henry. To w[hich Wingfield replied], that as to amity for the part of your [grace ye would not] fail both to preach and affirm it, for though * * *
If the King desire to bring the Italian cuterprise to a successful issue he ought to have some person of character, trust, and authority with the Emperor here; for if some means be not found to provide for sudden chances the danger will be great. Doubts not the King will provide for all necessities. Augsburg, 28 Aug. 1516.
P.S.—Has just received a letter from Dr. Marroton, which he encloses. The Emperor has great difficulty in getting out of the Tyrol, "and to colour that none should understand what he intendeth, and what difficulty shall be for him to pass that way which he must go, considering the war that is now prepared betwixt the Duke William of Bavier and the Duke of Wiertenberge, which is the mightest prince of men in all the empire, whose country the Emperor must needs pass through; and all the princes of Almaine been like to be in war by the mean as confederates to the said Dukes." Wirtemberg's allies are of the French faction, and when they heard of the Emperor's offer to resign the Empire to Henry, offered their support to the [Fren]ch King.
Hol., pp. 4, mutilated.
Vit. B. XIX. 236. ... "hoc mane ad vestram Excellentiam ... Cæsar scribas domino oratori ... Ricardus Paceus dixit meis ... Elvesios agentibus regem A[ngliæ non] posse mihi dare auxilia nisi lig[a fuerit] conclusa, et Cæsar ad partes in [feriores] venerit. Certe istud est secretum pal ... et admodum ex hoc indignatur Cæsar. Quare jussit ut has ad vestram Magnificentiam m[itterem et] nomine Cæsario requirerem, ut quan[tocius] fieri poterit serenissimo Regi vestro scribatis, [quod] ... Cæsarius ad partes inferiores secrete te ... ut omnia melius et securius agi p[ossint]."
"Unum non omittam, dominos oratores Cath[olici Regis] conclusisse, excluso patre. Dic xxvj. tarde."
"Fulmen e cœlo xviija præsentis pulveres bo[mbardicas] Venetorum tetigit et consumpsit xxve re ... ita quod bombardare parietes Ver[onæ non] possunt, id quod negligere ..."
Contemporary copy, p. 1. Add.: Excell. d. Roberto [Wyng]efelde ser. Regis [Angli]æ et Franciæ consiliario [ora]tori apud Maj. Cæs ... honorando ... Augustæ.
28 Aug.
R. O.
Requesting that Daniel Ocringer of Basle may be reimbursed the sum of 600 florins, which he lost in Henry's dominions by ignorant trausgression of the laws. Zurich, 28 Aug. '16.
Lat., p. 1. Add. and endd.
28 Aug.
S. B. b.
2312. To LORD MOUNTJOY, Lieutenant of Tournay, and JERNINGHAM, Treasurer.
To admit as one of the gunner quartermasters Th. Dolling, to exercise the said office by himself or deputy, at 1s. 6d. per day. Corfe Castle, 28 Aug. 8 Hen. VIII.
Calig. B. VIII. 102. B. M.
i. "Memoire de ce que Jacques Marchal, secretaire de Monseigneur le Duc d'Albany, regent et gouverneur du royaume d'Escosse, aura charge faire en Angleterre."
1. He shall demand ratification of the articles which he carries with him, signed by Albany, and send him word of his proceedings, getting Clarencieux to hasten the ratification if he cannot procure it immediately. 2. If it be despatched before he starts, he is only to wait two or three days, and state that Albany demands the hostages. 3. Is to obtain a safeconduct for Albany according to his instructions. 4. This done, he is to present his memorials, and obtain consent to one of the three. 5. Is to learn if it be the Cardinal's pleasure to send a credence by the said Marchal to the King of France, mainly to promote the peace between the three kingdoms. 6. For this object he shall entreat the Cardinal to write to Dacre, to arrest and send the Master of Glencairn to Albany, accused by the Earl of Eglinton. He is supposed to be now at Carly[sle]. But Dacre and his sons will know.
Fr., pp. 3. Endorsed.
ii. "Memoire sur le fait des sccurtez et ostaiges que Monseigneur le Duc d'Albanye demande pour son passaige au royaume d'Angleterre."
1. That the King and his sister Mary will surrender all claim to France, and the Queen of Scots to Scotland, and not revive them in the event of the Duke's being stopped in his passage; or, 2, that two hostages be placed, sc. two Dukes and the Lord Dacre, one in France, the other at St. Johnston, Dacre at Dunbar; France to be security for them; or, 3, that Clifford and Conyers, who have been offered already to the Duke, shall be sent to Boulogne, and Dacre to Scotland with the Captain of Berwick, and the castle of Berwick be placed in the hands of the Duke, with provisions for six months, &c.; or, 4, to deliver the great cham- berlain, the Earl of [Surrey], son of Norfolk, the Grand Prior of St.John's and the Lords Dacre, Clifford, and Conyers.
Fr., pp. 3.
29 Aug.
Calig. B. III. 260. B. M.
Albany is sending Jaques Marshall, his principal secretary, bearer of this, with letters to the King. He has the counterpart of the articles signed and sealed by the Duke, as the other was by Wolsey. The Duke will not have his going into England mentioned in them. His secretary is charged to learn what hostages shall be delivered. Were it not for the Estates of the realm he would go without them. He hopes to remove all scruples, and that the Kings of England, France, and Scotland shall remain brothers and allies. He will forsake France if it refuses compliance; expects to have his answer therefrom by La Fayette, and wishes Clarencieux to remain with him till then. Clarencieux is anxious for an answer to his letter dated Edinburgh the 9th, sent by a servant of the Lord Dacre's.—Since the above, has been with the Duke about the hostages. Explained to him his instructions. Albany desires Wolsey's favour; has deferred the parliament from the 2nd to the 15th Sept. The Bp. of Glasgow, chancellor, writes by the bearer. He is well inclined to peace. Encloses a letter of Angus to Queen Margaret, and others received from Marion Boucle. Cannot perceive that there are any bands in this realm. Angus, the Chamberlain, and their party, hang together, but are outwardly submissive to the Duke. Falkland, 29 Aug.
Hol., pp. 3. Add.: To my Lord Cardinal's good grace. Endd. by Darby.
29 Aug.
Vit. B. xx. 68*. B. M.
"... domine honorande, legi majti Cæ. vestras [literas. Pla]cet vestra oppinio et candem sequetur [ejus] celsitudo." He can write this to the King, "[quod] nisi in Owerlinghe dictum fuisset suæ majestati serenissimum regem vestrum nolle admodo succurrere suæ majestati, res non essent in istis terminis." If the King will keep firm to the Emperor he will never desert the King. These are the words spoken to Marroton by the Emperor to be written to Wingfield. The Emperor orders Wingfield to be in Fussen on Saturday, 6 Sept. He will arm there and set forth. He desires to have speech with Wingfield there. "Ex Rute," 29 Aug.
Hol., Lat., p. 1, mutilated. Add.
30 Aug.
Er. Ep. VIII. 33.
Much regets he could not pay Wolsey a visit before leaving England. Wolsey is his sheet anchor; but all things must give way to St. Jerome. Found the roads beset with robbers never more than at this present; the Rhine swollen with rain and snow, and all the country under water, specially in the neighbourhood of Strasburg. The New Testament in Greek has come out as it was written by the Apostles; Erasmus has added a Latin version and notes. Is employed on some trifles, and when they are finished will hasten his return, especially if Wolsey's bounty will provide him with some comforts. Basle, 3 kal. Sept. (fn. 3) 1516.
30 Aug.
Galba, B. IV. 149. B. M.
Wrote last on the 26th; on which day he received Wolsey's letters of the 21st. Went accordingly to see Fellinger, and urge him to promote the new amity. Fellinger told him it was his principal charge. A Council was to be assembled that morning, Friday last, to which many of divers nations were called. The Chancellor in the King's presence related at length the effect of the amity desired by England, approving of the defensive league, but objecting to the clause by which the confederates were bound to assist each other if any prince violated his engagements with them. The King was advised not to bind himself to so blind a matter. The clause might bring him into open war, coutrary to his oath. Only one man was of a different opinion, and though he had 25 or more against him, upheld Henry's proposition as more beneficial to them than to England. Many are surprised that England has made such an offer, being so far from equal in territory.
The Frisians have separated into great bands, and withdrawn into various towns on the frontier of Gueldres, where they cannot be assailed. The Lord Nassau and all the gentlemen of Spain are leaving. Lord d'Isselstein, Count Felix, and Lord Wassener have remained "retained ..." Posts have constantly come out of France these six days, sometimes twice a day. On Thursday the French ambassador was in communication with the Chancellor, Chievres and Fellinger. A servant of Andrew de Bourgo, who left Innspruck on the 22nd, says the garrison of Verona was very discontented, and the inhabitants suffered much from its extortion. The Venetians had made a bridge over the Adige. They and the French, before setting their ordnance against the town, "would come and take the close upon 12 miles this side of Verona." Great preparations were made in the Tyrol to relieve it. It can only be saved for a time. The French have offered [the Emperor] 200,000 cr. for it ... "and take it in their hands, not only for the sum ... but also for 225,000 more that they had leynn (lent) to h[is] majesty upon the said city." If so, the Venetians can have little hope to have it. The Genoese fleet against the Turks arrived in Sicily, and victualled itself. Some think it went there to help the insurrection. The Duke of Gueldres has taken an important town in Holland, which belongs one half to the King and the other to the Lord Tamyse. Encloses a report made by the servant of the Master of the Posts, who came two days ago from Mettz. Has paid him 30 gold guldens. Brussels, 30 Aug. 1516.
P.S.—Has not since spoken with the ambassador of Arragon, "for we tarry for ..."
Hol., pp. 4, mutilated.
30 Aug.
R. O.
In accordance with his letter of the 22nd, has taken leave of the King Catholic this day, stating the cause of his return. On Monday next will start for Calais, and go by Tournay to consult with Mountjoy. Will write to morrow along with Tunstal the answer they have this day received from the Council. Brussels, 30 Aug. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: My Lord the Cardinal of York, Chancellor of England, Endd.
30 Aug.
Vit. B. XIX. 238. B. M.
[Wrote] from Inspruck on the 20th of this month, "[and received your] most gracious letters of the 11th of the same" on [the...] of this month. Wrote to the [King] from Fiessen, and from, this city. Has received Wolsey's letters [dated] the 18th of this month, and with them [letters to] the Emperor from Wolsey on matters contained in Wingfield's letter of the 29th of [July]. Will execute the King's commands, but until he hears fresh news it is needless to "stymull the [Emperor very] besyly," for as far as his power goes he is as well [disposed] towards the King as any prince ever was towards another. When the Emperor finds himself strong and united with the Catholic King he will not fail to punish the traitors. (Here follows a passage too mutilated to be intelligible.) "As touching the desire your grace maketh to me [and] Master Pace, surely your grace may command; and though [so be] that it is openly spoken in this court that he, not only [in] the favor which is borne to the Venetians, but also because that it was thought most meet to him and the Lord Galias, that the said Venetians might take opportunity to recover not only Brixa and Verona, but also all such other things as hath been won or fallen into the Emperor's hands since the war began, and shett his majesty clean out of Italy, and then by their favor without the Emperor to make perfect the enterprise of the duchy of Milan; yet I have not only excused him in this matter to the Emperor, and defended him against all other, but also do esteem verily that the acts which the said Master Pace hath done, for which the Emperor hath taken displeasure, hath rather proceeded of a fervent desire that he hath had, to serve the King truly and satisfy your grace diligently, than otherwise." Wolsey will have heard before these come to his hand that the Emperor has forgiven Pace his past displeasure, and hopes his conduct will not be repeated. He is, however, troubled by his demeanour, as will appear by a letter of Dr. Marroton enclosed, which came unto my hands when I ... Wolsey has need to [know what the] Venetians intend, not what they say; [as it] is written of Gracchus and his orations. The Emperor deals with the Venetians much better than they deserve, and wonders they are so favoured by the King of England. They are the principal supporters of the French in Italy. Dated ...
Wolsey's letter to the Emperor he has already [sent with a let]ter to Dr. Marroton, "answering to his ... enclosed in these," adding what he thought fit, asking him to delivery Wolsey's letter [to] the Emperor, and to call for an answer, as Wingfield will not be where the Emperor is till the 6th of next month. Stays here till Wednesday, when he starts to meet the Emperor at the place appointed, three days journey from this. Will find great difficulty in conveying the 6,000 fl., which he will receive here of Friscobald's agent, because the order is so intricate. For in Henry's letter of the 11th he orders Wingfield to pay the said sum to the Emperor as soon as he is sure the Emperor will descend, while the letter of exchange orders the agent to pay the sum by Wingfield's order to the Emperor. Has written to Marroton to get the Emperor's acquittances.
Hol., pp. 4 badly mutilated. Dated in margin in a modern hand: 1516, Awgsburge, 30 Aug.
30 Aug.
P. S.
Grant of their petition that the mayor elect take the oath of office before his predecessor, the recorder and two or three aldermen, instead of before the Barons of the Exchequer. Monastery of Christchurch, 18 Aug. 8 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 30 Aug.
Pat. 8 Hen. VIII. p. 1, m.9.
31 Aug.
Er. Ep. II. 10.
Perceives by his last that he had not received the letters Erasmus left for him with Thos. More in London. Would have been glad to have returned to his old associates. Intends to winter at Louvain. Is glad to find that his N. Testment is applauded at Cambridge; although he has heard from very credible authority that there is a college there which has put out a decree that the book shall on no account enter its precincts. Think of men so absurd as to condemn a work they had not read, or reading could not understand! They had only heard, over their cups, or in knots in the market, that a new work had appeared which was to pluck out the eyes of theologians like crows. They pretend that nothing of the kind ought to be attempted without consent of a General Council. May not Erasmus restore what they have depraved? Insists on this absurdity, and the discrepancies in the citations from the N. Testament. Meets the objections against a new version. Thinks that even a General Council might overlook things, especially if they were not of necessity unto salvation. So they intend at all hazards to retain their mumpsimus! They vociferate, "O earth and heaven, Erasmus has corrected the Gospels!" Produces instances of new editions of parts of Scripture. Aristotle has lost none of his authority by his modern translators, nor Hippocrates and Galen by the labors of Cope. If grammar does not make a theologian, the absence of grammar does not.
Moreover, in the present Lateran Council it has been decreed that any book may be published by consent of the ordinary. That approbation he has from the Bishop of Basle and the Abp. of Canterbury. Mentions various scholars who had expressed their satisfaction with the work. Are not the dunces ashamed to revile what their own Chancellor the Bp. of Rochester has applauded? Sends a copy of the two papal letters in his favor. Ammonius had entrusted them to Pace, who is now ambassador with Maximilian, to forward them to Erasmus at Basle. Last winter sent one volume to Leo.
Are they afraid lest the book should entice their scholars and empty their lecture rooms? Thirty years ago nothing was taught at Cambridge except Alexander's parva Logicalia, some scraps from Aristotle, and the Quæstiones of Duns Scotus. In process of time improved studies were added; mathematics, a new Aristotle, a knowledge of Greek letters. What has been the consequence? The University can now hold its head with the highest, and has excellent theologians. Of course they must now study the New Testament with greater attention, and not waste their time as heretofore in frivolous quibbles. He could name certain theologians who have never so much as read the Scriptures, or even turned over The Sentences, or anything else, "præter quæstionum gryphos." Can wait cheerfully the judgment of posterity. Begs remembrance to his friend Dr. Fawn, John Brian, John Vaughan, Humphry, his old host Gerard the bookseller Understands that Watson is away. Palace, Rochester, prid. kal. Sep. 1516.
31 Aug.
Galba, B. IV. 151. B. M.
On the 23rd Chievres and the Chancellor demurred to the article touching invasion, as contrary to the league lately formed at Noyon, on which the writers proposed the modification of the second article, according to the drafts sent them by the Council from England, as they wrote in their letters of the 23rd. Since then, to prevent the Chancellor from misinterpreting the article, brought him a copy, and had a full meeting, where the King was present. Yesterday were told that the King, after long deliberation with his Council, would not accept the proposed modification as inconsistent with his honor, and would never consent to any article of invasion. Tunstal explained that the King had been requested by the Emperor to enter on this league from the advantage it would be to the Prince and his dominions, as he is mor likely to suffer than any other prince; for the same reason Henry had consented to punish all disturbers, although no prince was more likely to be free from invasion than himself, being environed by the sea; and that the article of invasion was so modified that it could not reasonably be rejected. In conclusion they consented to send an ambassador to England to declare this matter, and what had been done at Noyon. This would be the Provost of Cassell, who is not favored by the Council there. Think he will be empowered to show the King Catholic the excuses of his Council and a copy of the treaty of Noyon. The King will not go to Spain, although they pretend it, and will possibly hold a Toison, and go to the sea to blind the people. Besides Mons. de Ravestein and the Provost of ... must go to France to take the French King's oath for the new league, and Mons. Dorvell comes for the King Catholic's oath. The Duke of Gueldres has taken Newporte in Holland, and various prisoners. It is thought to have been done that the King may not leave the country without defence, because Mons. de Ta[myse] who is a strong Gueldrite, holds half the town.
Wingfield visited Chievres to announce his departure, when the King Catholic desired to state that he was anxious for the favor of England. Told Felynger they had done all they could to press the article; he said he considered it reasonable, expressed his sorrow that the enterprise of the Swiss could not go forward, and said he would report to the Emperor accordingly, and the same to Andreas de Burgho. De Gomez, the great Lord of Biscay, with whom they fell in by chance, told them privately that England should be under no apprehension of these practices with France, "for they were but bowrds and could not endure" after the King came into Spain. Tomorrow Wingfield leaves for Calais. Thinks the new amity should not be pressed on this court. The influence of the present governors cannot endure, they are so much disliked. They must not, however, be openly opposed, but civilly treated. Will not have to advance the loan if the King does not go. Have said nothing of Chievres' pension, as he is too much wedded to France. The Spaniards make good report of England's munificence. Brussels, last day of Aug. Signed.
Pp. 8, mutilated.
Er. Ep. VIII. 14.
Hopes the hunting may prove as fortunate to Ammonius as it has proved unfortunate to Erasmus. It carried away the King, then the Cardinal. Had angled for Urswick by sending him a New Testament, and asked for the horse he had promised. Finds, when visiting him on Monday, that he also had gone hunting. Thynne slips off in the same way; and now Ammonius. Begs him to break open the letter destined by Erasmus for the Pope, and have it recopied. Hopes success in their project.
P.S.—Might possibly stay in England a few days, waiting for the horse from Urswick, were he not tired of this country, and felt that he was a stale guest to More's wife; ("sentirem me vetulum jam hospitem uxori Moricæ supputere"). 1511.
Er. Ep. I. 30. 2324. ERASMUS to LEO X.
The Pope's condescension surpasses his utmost wishes. Knew that the King Catholic had written in his favor, but not that the King of England had done so. It will be an additional spur to his exertions. The restoration of letters will be one of the imperishable trophies of Leo X. Brussels, 1516.
Returns his thanks. What will not Worcester do for others when he has done so much for Erasmus, vix de facie noto? Is not surprised he should have stood so high in favor with Henry VII. and Henry VIII. Brussels, 1516.
Calig. B. III. 139. B. M. 2326. SCOTLAND and the DUKE OF ALBANY.
A memorial in the hand of John de Barbon, intended to be shown the King of England and Wolsey. (1.) Albany's desire to visit England, and his answer to the lords of Scotland, who were afraid of the same. (2.) The commandment given by him to the writer, to put Henry in mind of the good words he had sent Albany from time to time. "And if now it please his grace to send him (Albany) ony werd in France, to be said othir in his grace's name or in my lords awin, he schal entierly do it." For this purpose he desires that Clarencieux may be sent, or he may know the King's mind by the writer. 3. As too much time has elapsed to do anything before St. Andrew's Day, begs the truce may be prorogued until St. John Baptist's Day. 4. This prorogation can do no harm, if Albany during the time should come into Scotland, as it will only be to secure peace between the two realms, and to serve the Queen of Scotland. 5. Ambassadors will be sent to him for peace, and Albany has commission to that effect from the Pope. If the Cardinal desire the peace it will be to the universal good.
Pp. 3.
Vit. B. XVIII. 172. B. M.
1. To give the recommendations of the King Catholic to his uncle and good brother [the King of England]. 2. Since the death of Ferdinand, France has been pretending a right to the kingdom of Naples. 3. He has therefore been advised to make peace with France to obtain quiet possession of his kingdoms; 4, but he has expressly comprehended England, and done nothing to its prejudice, as will be seen by a copy of the treaty sent. 5. Is willing to make a treaty with England, according to the terms demanded by the ambassadors now at Brussels; and, 6, to enter the great league between the Pope, Emperor, King of England, and the Swiss, who shall be subsidised according to the powers given to the Bp. of Elna, his ambassador [in England]. 7. If the King of England wishes to be comprised in the treaty with France, he must send [ambassadors] betimes to the King Catholic. 8. The King Catholic desires from England a loan of 100,000 crowns for his voyage into Spain, to be repaid by instalments in three or four years. As the King of England had replied that he would write to his ambassadors on this point, and they have agreed to lend him 20,000 marks (equal to 120,000 livres of 40 gros), to be repaid in two years, on receiving bonds of the King Catholic and the members of the order of the Toison, minutes are enclosed of the said letters for the King's approval. 10. Is to communicate, before he sees the King, with the resident ambassador of the King Catholic, who will advise him how to manage.
Fr., pp. 2, badly mutilated. Endd.
* The sense in some places is obtained from marginal notes made before the fire.
Galba, B. IV. 162. B. M. 2328. [WOLSEY] to [TUNSTAL and SIR RICHARD WINGFIELD.]
By their letter to the King, dated Brussels, 23 Aug., understands their meeting with Chievres and the Chancellor, after their return from Noyon, the league and the marriage concluded with France, their desire to modify the article sent them by the writer at the King's desire, &c. As Chievres and the Chancellor made no direct answer, can give them no further instruction. The letter is very reasonable for all parties and only for remedying of wrong after refusal of redress. (fn. 4) Notwithstanding their advice against making the protestation, if they find that at the meeting of Noyon it is intended to convey the King to France, they are to follow their instructions.
Draft, corrected by Ruthal, pp. 3, mutilated.
Calig. E. III. 9. B. M. 2329. [WOLSEY] to [HENRY VIII.]
Thanks the King for his letters and instructions. Though ... has given charge to the officers of the town [of Calais], will charge them to make fitting provision there, as the King commands. Desires confirmation from the Emperor's ambassadors or Mr. Pace, of the overthrow of the French in Italy. After the return of [Chievres] and the Chancellor from Noyon, they declared that in the late amity and the marriage contracted between the King and the daughter of France nothing was done prejudicial to their good intelligence with England. They object to the article of invasion. By the arrangements proposed, if France attempt any wrong or refuse to pay the yearly pension, they will be bound to give aid and help him with an army. This day Hesdin, the Emperor's ambassador, came to him with proposals from the Emperor, of which he sends a copy. To counteract the pride of France, though [he leave] Verona and the whole of the Tyrol in jeopardy, the Emperor will descend forthwith to the Low Countries, and visit the King at Calais. Begs the King will take due deliberation on the subject, and let him know whether the writer and the ambassadors should resort to him. The Pope and the Swiss are as well minded towards [the King, and to drive] the French out of Italy, as ever they were. A gentleman named Fayette has come from the French King to the Duke of Albany, "licensing him ... [to] return into France from Scotland by this your realm." Thinks they will have the Duke; but if he defers leaving Scotland has practised with Lord Dacres to make him weary of staying there, as the King will see by the abstract of the letters enclosed. Infers, however, from Clarencieux's letters, that the Duke will come.
Draft, in Ruthal's hand, much corrected; pp. 4, badly mutilated. From Wolsey's letter book.
Galba, B. IV. 126. B. M.
Acknowledgment of the loan of 100,000 crowns from Henry VIII., and arrangement for its repayment, and likewise 35,000 crowns of gold which Henry lent the Lady Margaret in the year 1511, for levying troops for the reduction of Gueldres. Brussels,—Aug. 1516, I regni. Not signed.
Fr., pp. 3, mutilated. Endd.
Ib. f. 128. Security for the above, of Philip de Cleves, Sr de Ravestain, Ch. de Croy; Henry Count of Nassau, Sr de Breda; Wm. de Croy, Sr de [Chievres], Great Chamberlain; Jacques de Luxembourg, Sr de Fiennes; Th..., Sr de Bourgoingne; Jehan de Savage, Sr de Descaubeque, Chancellor; F ... de Croy, Sr du Reux; G. Master d'Hotel; Jehan Sr de Berg[hes;] ... Hugo de Melun, Viscount de Gand; Charles Baron de Lelaine; Au ... de Lalain, Sr de Montigny, chief financier.
Fr., pp. 3, mutilated.


  • 1. A leaf containing the bonds is inserted.
  • 2. Added in Greek.
  • 3. This month is an error.
  • 4. The next paragraph is entirely in Ruthal's hand; but as it is pasted on the fly leaf of the above draft, it is by no means certain that it belongs to it. The paper also differs.