Henry VIII: May 1546, 1-5

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Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 21 Part 1, January-August 1546. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1908.

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May 1546, 1-5

1 May. 719. The Privy Council.
A.P.C., 398.
Meeting at Greenwich, 1 May. Present: Chancellor. Privy Seal, Durham, Winchester, Cheyney, Browne, Gage, Wingfield, Petre, Sadler, Riche, Baker. Business:—Letter to mayor and jurates of Rye that, notwithstanding the order for stay of all adventurers, the King licensed John Frencheman, of Rye, to pass to the North Seas with two barks and a little row-boat on his giving surety to behave well towards the King's subjects and friends and to register all prizes at the first English port. Letter to Hertford in favour of Don Mighel, now repairing to the Camp; who also had passport. Letter to Deputy and Council of Calais to take measures to receive a mass of grain for the army, which grain was spoiling because the town gates most commodious for receiving it were kept shut. Letter to wardens of the East and Middle Marches who had written of the lewd act by gunners and others of the garrison of Warke against prisoners returning into Scotland, that they should hang three or four of the chief malefactors in chains, so that the Scots might see that the crime was punished, and keep the rest in ward until the King's further pleasure. Letter to George Lawson, captain of Warke castle, to see the said offenders safely delivered to the wardens.
1 May. 720. Ireland.
The Chancellor coming to England. See Grants in May, No. 4.
1 May. 721. Wm, Walter to Anthony Bourchier.
R. O. Appeals to him in the matter of the controversy between his (Bourchier's) brother Mr. Michell and Mr. Huntley (as executor to his brother Mr. Bennett) in which Mr. Michell fails to observe Bourchier's order (described, including among other things a payment to the dean and chapter of Gloucester). Turkeddane, 1 May.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Mr. Bochour, auditor to the Queen's Majesty.
1 May. 722. Bailiffs' Accounts.
R. O. Bill, headed "Petterborowe," of the costs and charges of the "grett courtt of leytt," kept at Monkeshall manor in Gosberkyrk in Holland, Linc., at May Day 38 Hen. VIII., viz.:—half a seme of wheat 10s., a seme of malt 9s., a quarter beef 6s. 8d., a veal 2s. 8d., a wether 4s. a lamb 20d., 3 green geese 8d., 2 pigs 9d., 2 capons 12d., and half-a-dozen chickens 6d. Total 36s. 11d.
P. 1. Subscribed in another hand: Allor. 40s. in plenam solucionem 65s. 11d.
R. O. 2 Bill, headed "Petterborowe. Md. that thyse be the [...]aytmenttes of old,' viz.:—
For steward fee 3l. 6s. 8d., bailey fee 53s. 4d., Smyth Flores 6s., a pasture called Shepe Bryges 3s., a pasture sometime in the holding of Thos. Cheny 3s., Flaxe Hous 16d., under bailey fee 6s., my livery 10s. (these two last amounts struck out and 6s. 8d substituted). Small paper, p. 1.
R. O. 3. Bill, headed "Peterborowe," for "reparacions of the saltt coottes belonynge to ye maner of Monkeshall" done in 38 Hen VIII., viz., payments for a thousand of reed to repair Stanworth Coott 10s. carriage of the same 12d., meat and wages of Robt. Jacson and his men thatching of the same coott, 7 days, 8s. 2d., 2 dossyng of ruse rope" for the same 18d., and to Jacson "for regyng of the same coott another coott in the holdyng of Robartt Elward," 3s. 4d. Total 24s.
P. 1.
R. O. 4. Reparations "layd outt be me Nyclys Haryman, ballye in Gosberkyrk," for making the fen banks for the King's manor of Monkeshall in 37 Hen. VIII. and diking and scouring the common drive called New Drive in the present year 38 Hen. VIII., viz., payments to John Ward, John Goslyng. Thos. Ward and Ralph Osborrne for the fen banks 6s. and for the diking "3 score ruddes and a halffe and 2 fott at 5d. the rude," 25s. 3d. These repairs were done "for savyng of a grett payne sett by the justissys of the suars." Signed as examined by Ant. Irby. steward.
ii. "Fallows":—Two acres of land in the holding of Thos. Okkey, 3s. 4d.: 1 ac. in the holding of the wife of Wm. Cheell 2s. 8d.
P. 1.
R. O. 5. Reparations made upon the manor house of Aylton, 38 Hen. VIII., viewed and surveyed by the Queen's bailey there and four of her tenants, viz., Wm. Bariffe, Wm. Scherman, John Fostar and Robt. Robynson.
Payments to Ric. Tornay "for setting up the gate house which was blown down with a tempest of wind," to Cerby, the slater, for covering the gate house with slates and for pointing various walls, to Pygne for 13 days' thatching upon the great barn, to Comberell for mending the stone walls, for timber, lime and lath. Total 39s. 10d.
Signed with two marks and "by me Wyll'm Barryff.
P. 1.
R. O. 6. Bill, headed "Stamford nuper priorat., anno 38o H. viijvi," setting forth many small payments to masons, slaters, wrights, etc., and for lime, slates, and timber for repairs in the tenements in Stamforde of Alice David, Thos. Barbor, Thos. Howett, Achell Hurdson and Tymyng. Total 27s.
Long strip of two pages stitched together and written on one side only.
R. O. 7. Bill for "reparacions done by Richarde Cycell, esquire," upon the manor place of Tynwell in the year 38 Hen. VIII. Describing work done by Thos. Holmes and his brother, masons, at 6d. a day "with meat and hire in all," their labourer at 4d. "with meat and drink," and by Ric. Este and Wm. Clerk, carpenters, at 6d. "and find himself." Total 7s.; to which is added in another hand "For my fee" 13s. 4d. For the decay of a mill called Caves Mylle, 10s. 10d.
Long strip, p. 1.
R. O. 8. Bill for "Repracyons done of the lordeschype of Fletton a[...] R. H. Oct. xxxviijth, viz.:—Paid to John Holte, the mason, for "8 days work of a stone wall that closeth in he yard," 4s.; to Thos. Halle for serving him, 8 days, 2s. 8d.; for three load of stone 15d.
Small paper, p. 1.
1 May. 723. Paget to Henry VIII.
R. O.
St. P., xi. 122.
This night arrived Francisco the courier from Venice with a "great sort of letters" to the King and Paget from the King's ambassador at Venyce and captains in Italy. The secret matter (for which Francisco was sent) appears in Mr. Harvel's letter to Paget, and the letters from Loys Gonzaga (touching whom Harvel writes to the King and Ludovico de Larmi sends a special messenger) and the other captains are only "letters of office." Advised De Larmi at his departing to require the captains, being the King's pensioners, to be ready, and ask them secretly (to entice them the rather to blow it abroad) whether they could provide their men upon sudden warning, and how the King's enemies might best be annoyed in Italy. The captains write their opinions, much to one effect. Did this, trusting that the King would not be offended, because it costs nothing and would (as it has done) put the enemy to greater charge upon Italy side. As to Francisco's going to Venice, Mr. Harvel's letter remains with the other letters in Mr. Peter's keeping, sealed with my seal because you wished it kept secret. It is in the packet of Harvel's letters of March or February.
When we come to treat it is to be considered whether the Scots may be comprehended without the Emperor's consent. If this latter "eclarysment" have not taken it away, you had as great liberty to agree with them as the Emperor had "(though it had been true that Darras said)" to agree with the Frenchmen; for when I was last with the Emperor (as I can remind Mr. Wootton), when David Panter was there, the Regent said to us in the presence of the Emperor's Council that they had no cause of enmity with Scotland but for your sa[ke], and therefore remitted the matter wholly to you. It touches the Emperor so little, and the enmity between the Low Countries and the Scots is so friendly (Camphire, Mydilburg, Flushing and elsewhere the Scots haunt as boldly as if it were peace) that I think he will easily condescend thereto. Pray signify your pleasure in this, and whether, in comprehending the Scots, to provide for restitution of Lynoux and his brother without mentioning the quarrel between the Governor and him for the right of succession. Passing this in silence serves your turn, for I trust one day to see you "set them both besides the cushion." Are we to agree to the renovation of the old treaties (for the pension must be paid by virtue of them) with a clause of reservation of your treaty with the Emperor "as he did for your Majesty in his treaty with France, the copy whereof it may please your Majesty to command to be sent unto us?"
My lord of Hertford has just sent to me to write to your Majesty for money, the want of which will protract the works there. It may be seen "with what courage the soldiers, having money, have brought up in so little a time such a wonderful piece of work." Calais, 1 May 1546.
Hol., pp. 4. Add. Endd.
1 May. 724. Paget to Petre.
R. O. I send you a schedule of the "purposes we mean to descend unto after persuasion first made to the Frenchmen to let Bulleyn to us without further claim." Pray show it to the King; and, as we have "but a bare memorial, made only from a remembrance, let us have a letter from his Majesty or the Council repeating his contentation upon the said points and upon certain things wherein I now write to him. And henceforth, when we write that the French will come to such and such points, pray answer us not generally, but repeat articulatim what his Majesty likes or mislikes, that we may not mistake his resolution. The plainest way of instruction is by articles, and those short; "and so both the Emperor and French king use to pass always their instructions." Pray send us the certainty of the arrearages. Where you wrote lately that neither the Duke of Ferrar nor his ambassador had spoken of the matter of Manfroni, you should remind his Majesty that the Duke's ambassador gave to my lord of Westminster a special remembrance (which his Majesty has seen) of the Duke's request to his Majesty not to entertain him. It is to be considered that the King would think it unkind of the Duke to entertain a person so devilishly disposed to him. Commend me heartily to my lords Chancellor, Great Master and Privy Seal, and the Master of the Horse, and "tell him that I had thought to have sent a packet of Italian letters to him, to have bragged him with my styles and my titles." Cales, 1 May 1546.
P.S.—"I pray you tell the Master of the Horse that when the French Admiral cometh to Cales after the peace is made we have no venison for him. Tell him that for red deer and Mr. Treasurer (to whom I pray you commend me) for fallow deer. My lord Admiral and my lord Deputy commend them heartily to you. I pray you return to me a copy of my letter to the King's Majesty."
Hol., pp. 2. Add. Endd.
1 May. 725. English Demands.
R. O.
St. P., xi 124.
The French to pay pensions, and other sums due, as they are bound by former treaties; and if anything has been left undone for the assured payment thereof, the French king to cause it to be done. Arrears to be paid all in hand, or half in hand and the rest at days: until we learn out of England the certainty of the arrears we ask the more and drive them to show an acquittance for the last payment. Expenses to be repaid to the King as we can agree,—not less than prescribed in our instructions. All sums paid and other covenants kept, we to surrender Bulloyne and the whole county of Bulloynoys; and meanwhile to enjoy them quietly. The Scots to be comprehended as they were in last treaty between the King and France, so as they deliver out of hand their young Queen' to be married to my lord Prince and keep the rest of their covenant for the marriage, or, not delivering her, put in hostages for performance of the whole treaty of marriage.
P. 1. Endd.: Tharticle touching the Scottes, po Maii.
1 May. 726. Hertford to Henry VIII.
R. O. Eight days past I sent my shallop along the coast of France, and yesterday she returned with three little prizes laden with victuals for Estaples, besides the boat she sent hither before, whereof my lord Admiral and I lately wrote. They were in company with twenty fishermen and victuallers bound to Estaples, and had the weather not been foul and stormy she might have "bowged and sonke the substance of the rest." The masters and mariners of the prizes, being examined as to the French navy and the haven at Estaples, agree upon its goodness as my lord Admiral and I lately wrote, saving that we wrote, by the oversight of my secretary, that at neap tides at full sea 3½ fathom flows at the worst, whereas the minute ran, at neap tides 2½ fathoms at full sea at the worst. The forwardness of the French navy appears by their confessions herewith.
Has granted bearer, John Brygandyne, one of the commissioners of Almayne footmen, licence to go into England for eight days. He and his fellow Brende have served very honestly and brought "a handsome band of men." Camp at your Majesty's Newehaven in Bullonoyes, 1 May 1546. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. Endd.
1 May. 727. Hertford to Petre.
R. O. You write to Mr. Secretary Paget that you have received my letters mentioning the death of Sir Ralph Ellerker, but that the King is not advertised how he was slain: whereat I marvel, for I despatched John Rogers a day before his death was known with Lord Grey's letter (copy herewith) of that advertisement. From the Camp at New Haven in Bullonoys, 1 May 1546. Signed.
P. 1. Add. Endd.
1 May. 728. St. Mauris to Prince Philip.
viii., No. 259.
The infant daughter of the Dauphiness is not yet christened. If peace is made with England the king of England will be godfather. The Queen (of France) will be one of the godmothers. Melun, 1 May 1546.
1 May. 729. St. Mauris to Covos.
viii., No. 258.
Negociations for peace with England have progressed so far that three days ago the Admiral went to Ardres to meet the Lord Admiral of England and offer 1,200,000 cr. in cash for arrears and a million in gold for war indemnity and expense of fortifying Boulogne. This million will be payable in six years in addition to current payments and at the expiry of the six years the English will surrender Boulogne. The English continue to strengthen themselves on this side, and have now 10,000 or 12,000 men in the field, but have only attacked Ardres as yet. If peace is concluded the galleys will shortly go to the Mediterranean. Nothing will be undertaken against Spain this year, as money must be found to pay the English. The people are in great distress. Melun, 1 May 1540.
1 May. 730. Mont to Henry VIII.
R. O. On 16 April Nicholas the King's post brought him, at Francfort, instructions for dealing with the Landgrave, Count William a Furstenberg and Dr. Bruno. Departed next day to the Landgrave; who said that his communication to Mont of the Emperor's conversation at Spires had not deserved so great thanks, and in releasing the guns he had only done his duty; and as for Reyffenberg, his lieutenant Wolff Schlegel had two days ago asked audience for him, but the Landgrave refused it until Reyffenberg should purge himself of the King's accusations, for he had both slandered the Landgrave, as having counselled his action, and falsely obtained of the Emperor lands which were subject to the Landgrave. His (the Landgrave's) advice was to commission someone to call Reyffenberg to justice, and within his territory he would compel him to appear; but he would not advise Mont to execute that office, as it would irritate the nobility. Confederation between the King and these states he desired, especially now because of the Bp. of Rome's Council; and these states had often (and lately at Worms) descended to a definite aid, but nothing was ever offered on the King's part, and they would not declare themselves unless they heard something from the King; he would write to the delegates at Worms to resume the subject. As to the private offer of a pension; he had said that he would repute as an honour some gift of angelots from the King, but now when the King offered a pension with reciprocal obligations he would deliberate and shortly answer in writing,—and he asked what hope there was of peace between the King and the French king, which was much to be desired. Mont said he was going to Count William a Furstenberg, on the King's business and asked to have the answer sent to him at Worms, for he would, on returning thither, despatch the King's post; and within two days the letter herewith was sent. Also sends a letter received from him two days before Nicholas arrived. Went from the Landgrave on his way to Furstenberg and Bruno, to Worms, where the Convention was dissolved the day after his coming, because of the delay of the cities of Saxony and the Emperor's haste to have the Diet (comitia) at Ratisbon. Saw in the Convention at Worms, besides the usual states, the Palatine's chancellor and one of his Council, and ambassadors of the Abp. of Cologne. The Frenchmen Reckrodus and Basfonteyn were also at Worms pretending their King's favour to sincere religion. Found Dr. Bruno there, and thanked him in the King's name for the letters he lately sent; and he assured Mont that on the fifth day after Easter he would start for England. On 25 April, came to Count William a Furstenberg, attending to health in the Baths within the Duchy of Wirtenberg. Declared the King's good opinion of him and determination to give him a pension of 5,000 fl., if he would be always ready to serve with a competent number of soldiers upon certain prescribed conditions, which Mont read to him in German, and with his friends impede levies by the King's enemies. He asked whether the King would permit him to except the Emperor, the Empire and the Protestants. Mont said he might except the Emperor and king of the Romans. He then said that he desired to serve, especially by leading forces against the French king, and asked for a calendar of pay and conditions, which Mont delivered. Next day he sent for Mont and said that he would hasten to the King if called, but the rate of pay for high officers was too small and there was no mention of pay for battles or assaults. Answered that all the soldiers who now served the King were sworn to that pay, and no doubt battles and assaults successfully executed would be liberally rewarded. He then said that defalcation of dismissal money could not be so exactly kept among soldiers, and Mont answered that the rule did not apply to hours but to the week or more, and doubtless the King was aware that if dismissed beyond sea the soldier could not return home if his money was thus defalked. Finally, he said that he would take counsel and shortly send answer in writing. Offered to stay with him till he decided; but he answered that it was unnecessary, and asked where to send a letter. Appointed Worms, where Mont has determined to await the coming of Mr. Mason. The ordinary post is set there. Asked the Count to hasten his reply because the French captains would soon carry off the soldiers; but he thought that the French king would obtain very few good soldiers this time, and the German soldiers who were in France would gladly depart if they could, because of their diminished pay. The same evening, met John ab Heydeck, brother of the baron, Henry's servant, whose wife is daughter of Count William's sister and who said that he much desired to serve the King under the Count, who had evidently told him all. Told him that there would be no difficulty,—Conradt Pfenning and all his regiment served at that pay. He said that the rate for high officers was too slender to attract experienced officers; the Count himself was to have 300 ph. but had always had 800 ph., and so much the Protestants had appointed him. Answered that the King's munificence might be depended upon in the Count's case, but for the other officers he could not promise other pay than was prescribed. He replied that the King and Count would doubtless agree; for the Count would ask nothing but what was just, and he himself would do his best to promote it.
Returned by way of Heydelberg, both to see if Philip was returned and what the state of religion was, for he had heard that the Palatine on Palm Sunday abrogated the Mass. Heard nothing of Philip, but found the French captains there trying to allure the Elector, Otto Henry, Wolfgang and the whole of the Court with French promises, having lately given a Lucullian banquet to Otto Henry, Wolfgang and the chief of the Court. They seek a mustering place and soldiers; and Mont is told that the Elector has taken oath of certain captains not to serve against Emperor, Empire, Protestants and himself, and licensed them to seek service abroad. But the Chancellor, with whom Mont is familiar, says that the Elector has given no such licence and will keep his soldiers at home. Be that as it may, the French practise in the Palatine's court and Hubertus, the Elector's councillor, who was formerly in England, sent to the King by Frederick, is now sent to the French king. The French captains are giving travelling money and appointing the soldiers to be at the mustering place, Port St. Nicholas near Nanze in Lorraine within eight days; but Mont cannot yet learn the number of standards. The travelling money they give is very small, and therefore many refuse to enrol themselves. The place of masters is at least 30 German miles from hence. Not above 1400 German soldiers of those which John ab Heydeck brought remain in France. The Palatine proceeds to establish religion according to the rites of the Nurnberg church, and on Palm Sunday reformed the mass. The introit, Gloria in excelsis, and the rest, are sung as usual, but the priest in his vestment pronounces the epistle, gospel and the words of consecration out of the Gospel in the German tongue, and in that mass which alone is celebrated in the church (que una et sola in templo celebratur), gives the sacrament of the altar in both kinds, private masses being altogether abolished. Worms, 1 May 1546.
Lat. Hol., pp. 6. Add. Endd.
1 May. 731. Mont to Paget.
R. O.
St. P. xi. 125.
Could not return the post sooner, having to go to those whom the King wished him to speak with. Came upon the Landgrave 8 miles from Frankfort journeying homewards, he having gone from Spires to the Palatine and then to the Duke of Wirtenberg. The Convention of Wormes was hurriedly dissolved because the Emperor wrote that it was important to be early at the Diet and because the cities of Saxony had not yet arrived. Business was therefore transferred to Ratisbon; but new ambassadors are sent to Ratisbon by many of the princes and cities, which change of ambassadors may be troublesome to us. That Duke Philip and Mr. Mason are now present will be important; for the French are assiduous in the Palatine's court, who now has an ambassador in France. Thinks that the French insinuate themselves under pretext of a Danish agreement. Margrave Albert is said to be dismissing the horsemen he raised. Will here await the coming of Mr. Mason; for Heydelberg is not more than a day's journey hence. Will send Count William's answer by the merchants' ordinary post. The Count is now at leisure at the baths, and it is uncertain when he will send, so that Mont dare not detain Nicholas for it. Wrote by the way to the Baron ab Heydeck to promote that matter. Gave Dr. Bruno letters both to Carn and Vaughan, asking them to advise him in his journey to Paget. Hears of none of the Princes preparing to go to Ratisbon. Has written all the rest to the King. Begs him to speak with Mr. Bucler about payment of the writer's diets. If the King thinks fit to confederate with these States, it may now be propounded to their assembly at Ratisbon where all their affairs are managed. Here they determined nothing save to press the Emperor to confirm what he decreed touching religion in the Diet of Spires. Commendations to Mr. Peter, Paget's colleague. Worms, 1 May 1516.
Lat. Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd.
2 May. 732. The Privy Council.
A. P. C. 399.
Meeting at Greenwich, 2 May. Present: Chancellor, Great Master, Privy Seal, Durham, Winchester, Cheyney, Gage, Browne, Wingfield, Petre, Sadler, Riche, Baker. Business:—Passport for Alexander Grego and (blank) others to pass to their native countries. Warrant to treasurer of the Chamber to pay the King's reward to Alexander de Mister Grego 201.; and to Mr. Leighton for posting to Mr. Paget to Calais, 40s. Letter to lord Gray of Wilton that Vincent Mondy was licensed to repair hither for 12 or 14 days. To my lord of Norfolk that the King thanked him for his proceedings, that the servant he sent up was committed to the Tower, and that whereas Lord Thomas Haward, his son, was now sent for, it was for disputing indiscreetly of Scripture with other young gentlemen of the Court, and the Council were ordered to admonish him and reconcile him if he had the grace to accept the King's clemency herein. Letter to Lord Thomas Hawarde to appear before the Council, To Lord De la Warre to stay certain leather which, as he wrote to the Lord Chancellor, was shipped for conveyance beyond sea. To Hertford, reminding him that the Council formerly sent him a supplication of Hugh Peryne against his lieutenant in Jersey, and that Mr. Secretary Paget had promised so to declare the matter to him that it might ere this have been despatched. Mr. Deveroux, Lord Ferrers' son, examined touching words about creeping to the Cross, Holy Water, &c., and "a new sort of Confiteor," and commanded to attend when called. John Bonde, of Ireland, who had slandered the Deputy, ordered to attend the Council.
2 May. 733. The Privy Council to Paget.
R. O.
St. P., xi. 135.
Having seen your letters of 1 May, and being advertised of the articles you sent to me, Sir William Petre, the King commands us to signify that he likes the articles, and will have you, in pursuance of your letters, if you can nowise persuade them to leave Bulloyn and Bullonoyse, descend to your said articles (copies returned herewith); and then, if you cannot bring them to these articles, proceed further according to your instructions received here and sent from hence since. Mary! touching comprehension of the Scots you shall at first make some stay thereat because, being common enemies of the King and the Emperor, the Emperor's consent to their comprehension is necessary. But, if you cannot persuade them to make the peace without mention of the Scots, you shall follow the tenour of your article and your former instructions, qualifying your agreement "so as the Emperor shall assent unto the same." As to the arrears of the pension, my lord of Wynchester, who has had long experience of that matter, says that the pension is due and unpaid for 12 years and that there is due besides, by obligation, 500,000 cr. For opening the matter of arrears the King likes your suggestion to require them to show their last acquittance.
Draft in Petre's hand, pp. 2. Endd.: M. to Mr. Secretary Mr. Paget wt ijo Maii 1546.
2 May. 734. Mary of Hungary to Henry VIII.
R. O.
St P., xi. 127.
Was pleased to hear of his good health by bearer, (fn. n1) one of the squires of his stable (escuyers d'escuyerie), bringer of a present of hackneys, greyhounds and running dogs for which she thanks him. Binch, 2 May 1546. Signed.
French. Broadsheet, p. 1. Add. Sealed. Endd.: The Regent of Flaunders.
2 May. 735. William Damesell to Paget.
R. O. Coming from Macline, from proving the ordnance which he bought for the King, received this day the enclosed packet from Mr. Caern; and learns the arrival, yesterday in Zeland, of two of the King's ships, which he will stay a day or two, the wind being contrary, until he can lade another hoy with part of the provision specified in Paget's letters. Will despatch her tomorrow, being Holy Rood Day and has got the Margrave's leave to have men to work on the holyday. As John Dymocke will have more money than he can employ, begs to have of it the 2,500l. Fl. which he (the writer) will lack. The Bourse news is that Paget has already concluded peace between the King and the French king. Has letters today reporting Mr. Mason's arrival at Collen on 27 April. Andwarpe, 2 May 1546.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: at Calais. Endd.
3 May. 736. The Garter.
Order of the
ii. 435.
Forasmuch as in 38 Hen VIII. the 23rd of April was Good Friday, the ceremonies of St. George's Day were deferred to 3 May. That day, at vespers, the King, being at Greenwich with Lord Russell, Lord St. John, Sir Thos. Cheyney, Sir Ant. Browne, Sir John Gage, Sir Ant. Wingfield, Sir Ant. Seintleger and Lord Wriothesley, appointed Lord Russell his deputy for the ceremonies. At later vespers knights were nominated as follows:—
Lord Wriothesley:—Princes: Marquis Dorset, earl of Cumberland and earl of Sussex. Barons: lords Cobham, Par of Horton and Wharton. Knights: Sir Wm. Paget, Sir Thos. Seymer, and Sir Wm. Herbert.
[Sir Anthony] Seintleger:—Princes: Dorset, Worcester, Sussex. Barons: Delaware, Cobham, Grey of Wilton. Knights: Sir Fras. Bryan, Sir Thos. Semer, Sir Wm. Sydney.
Sir Ant. Wingfield:—Princes: Dorset, Derby, Cumberland. Barons: Delaware, Par of Horton, Wentworth. Knights: Sir Wm. Sydney, Sir Giles Strangwais, Sir Fras. Bryan.
Sir John Gage:—Princes: Dorset. Huntingdon, Cumberland. Barons: Delaware, Par of Horton, Grey of Wilton. Knights: as Wingfield.
Sir Ant. Browne:—Princes: as Wingfield. Barons: Delaware, Wharton, Par of Horton. Knights: as Wingfield.
Sir Thos. Cheyney: Princes: Dorset, Derby. Sussex. Barons: Sturton, Cobham, Delaware. Knights: Sydney, Sir Ric. Page, Strangwais.
Lord St. John:—Princes: as Wingfield. Barons: Par of Horton, Delaware, Wharton. Knights: as Wingfield.
Lord Russell:—Princes: as Wingfield. Barons: Par of Horton, Cobham, Delaware. Knights: Strangwais, Semer, Sydney.
No election followed. The feast of St. George appointed to be kept at Windsor, 6 June, by Lord Russell assisted by Cheyney, Wingfield and Seyntleger: which was done in due course.
3 May. 737. Christopher Breten to John Johnson.
R. O. Commendations, good brother Johnson, from my wife and me. On Tuesday I was at Glapthorne where my sister and her two little [ones were well]; as also my cousin Ottwell and his wife. Describes at great length purchases of wool for Johnson, mentioning Mr. Shukburgh of Navesby, and his own brothers, Robert and Serjeant. Has not been at Coventre since he spoke with Brother Serjeant about Mr. Rogers' land in Dene. Will cause his cousin Starkye to move the matter again. Money matters between the writer's wife and his brothers Perche and Lightfoote, in which there is question of the books of "my predecessor" (apparently his wife's former husband?). Tyckeford, 3 May 1546.
P.S.—....... ghton is content to let Johnson have his wool, for which Ralph Freman and Parson Saxby have spoken.
Hol., pp. 3. Mutilated.
4 May. 738. The Privy Council.
A. P.C., 401.
Meeting at Greenwich, 4 May. Present:—Great Master, Privy Seal, Durham, Winchester, [Cheyney, Gage, Browne, Wingfield, Petre, Sadler, Riche, Baker]. Business:—Letter to vice-provost and bursers of Eaton College that where, after the bp. of Carlisle's departure, Lord Maxwell's younger son was sent to the Dean of Windsor, and now the Dean was departing into the bpric. of Durham, they should take the said gentleman into their custody. Placard for Hugh Lyon, my lord Admiral's servant, to take up post horses to Dover for his master's necessaries. Warrant to — Flemyng, deputy to Sir Thomas Seymour, to deliver — Lewson, captain of Portland castle, four barrels of serpentine powder. John Hilly, master of the King's pinnace called the Sacre, in the Marshal-sea for spoil of certain pieces of "russell worstedde," released upon sureties, viz., Thos. Felsted and John Singleton of London (recognisance given).
4 May. 739. Prince Edward to Henry VIII.
See later, under date 2 June.
4 May. 740. The Queen's Surveyor.
R. O. Receipt 4 May 38 Hen. VIII., by John Basset, the Queen's Surveyor, from Robt. Grove, of 4l. 6s. 8d. for costs from London to Yarcombe, Stokland and Loders, to make fines there to the Queen's use. Signed: per me Johannem Basset.
Order subscribed in another hand, to be allowed in the account of R. Grove, receiver.
P. 1.
4 May. 741. Lisle, Paget and Wotton to Henry VIII.
R. O. Receiving on Sunday last (fn. n2) your pleasure concerning the abstinence and the enlargement of our commission for giving safeconduct for a greater number, we sent to my lord of Hertford, your lieutenant, to signify it to the Admiral of France. The said Admiral answered this morning by Monluc that the abstinence could not be perfected without tract of time, and prayed us to send first our safeconduct that we might meet and arrange it. We have (charging the Admiral on his honour not thus to revictual Ardre) sent the safeconduct. Ardre has been well revictualled within these three weeks by Turwayn side. Now I trust that our delay is past and that we shall meet on Thursday (fn. n3) as Monluc promises. Guisnes, 4 May 1546. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. Endd.: The Commissioners at Callys.
4 May. 742. Paget to Petre.
R. O. At this instant arrived Nycolas the courier from Mr. Mownt and Lodovicus Montius from Ludovico de Larmy. By the minute of the writings sent to each you can consider their answers. Aloyse Gonzaga's entertainment will be very chargeable, who seems to require the King to be at the charge of his defence. Would wish the practice with him to be only a practice; which may be done by deferring answer until the first forty days are past, and then answering some part of the matter and requiring "further knowledge of his mind," whereby the other 30 days will pass and Aloys must appoint new days. Thus the summer will pass, and for the next summer it may be considered whether we shall be in a position "to do anything upon Italy side." Once bargain with him and the bargain must be kept, or else you lose your credit there and make him your enemy. Entertain him with good words, to occupy your enemies' heads on that side; and, if war continue, send him a reward in the beginning of winter and devise means to practise with him against next summer, "as at my coming home there shall, I trust, be leisure enough to think upon it." Likewise for the Lantgrave and County Guillame, if you once go through for their pensions, "though the letters patent be but durante beneplacito, yet in peace they will look for it or be your enemies." Pensions of mean captains we may be bold to stay, but not those of princes; and, as both Lantgrave and County "take deliberation for the receipt of your pension," so would I wish the King to take deliberation, now that the matter is in his hand again, entertaining them with further talks and asking their advice as though you had a special trust in them. But for the ease of these and other matters the best way is a peace. "As I mislike not, for my simple capacity, the overture which the Lantgrave maketh touching the General Council, so forsooth the good Duke Frederic's dealing with the French king is much to be noted, yea to be twice noted, that can find unkindness that the King's Majesty hath not holpen him at his beck against the king of Denmark, and now send a special ambassador to the French king, who hath always been in league with the said king of Denmark and hath answered touching their matters of religion as his Majesty hath been advertised. So as you see almost what is to be hoped at his hand both touching the matters of religion (I mean as the King's Majesty intended) and also for the empeachment of his Majesty's enemies any other sure amity. But if upon advertisement from Mr. Mason it shall appear that his Majesty's meaning that ways shall take none effect, and if that we make not peace here (as I pray God we may, if it so may please God and the King's Majesty) I would wish a counter practice were used both with the said Duke and French king in this matter." Babbles thus to pass the time until the passage at Calais be ready, in the morning. It were well to move the King to hear Montius' credence from Gonzaga. Such benignity (which is natural to his Majesty) gains more than money: for men are moved by affections. Do we not see the Frenchmen, for all "their slipper breach of promises," practised with again by those with whom they "deal so slipperly?" "Good countenance, good words, fair speakings, embracings, blaming the former ministers, lying, braving, etc.," some great princes (if a man might name princes without offence) had been now "ruynated" if they had not used such fashions; "and why should I not name both the Emperor's and the French king's ministers, seeing I may not honestly name their masters." Guisnes, 4 May 1546.
The captain Menart van Ham, whom the Lantgrave mentions, dwells in Gelderland and is the Emperor's subject. I believe he is much given to the King and makes no men at present, and yet it were well to write to Mr. Kerne therein. I would be loath that any man "should see the first part of my etter sent you this morning but the King's Majesty." Tell the Master of the Horse "I would have her bake the red deer for me which fed the fat hens and made the good puddings, which puddings my lord Admiral saith he liketh well."
Hol., pp. 5. Add. Beneath the address Paget writes "Ask Nycolas of his handling at Graveling." Endd.
4 May. 743. Hertford to Paget.
R. O. Perceiving by your letter my lord Admiral's answer to you touching the answer to be made by him and me to the Council's letter (viz., that he has already written as much as concerns him and will not write more) I think the matter too important to be thus left, and have therefore answered fully by my brother, whom I send today to the King. As Mons. L'Admyrall's safeconduct entitles him lieutenant to the French king it had been no dishonour to the King if I, as his Highness' lieutenant, had been at this first meeting; but, as it is now too late, pray advertise me what you think I should do hereafter therein, I cannot gratify Mr. Peter's desire, having not so few as three sundry times been an earnest suitor for my friend, as Mr. Dennye (who was a remembrancer and mean therein) can be my judge; for which office my friend, who is honest and discreet, witty and well learned, must give the King some money. I cannot, therefore, with honour grant my good will therein otherwise, albeit as ready to do Mr. Petre pleasure as any friend he has. "At my coming forth the attorney of that Court was departed, which room if it please the King's Majesty to bestow upon my said friend, Mr. Petre might then have the other." At the camp, 4 May 1546. Signed.
P. 1. Add. Endd.
5 May. 744. The Privy Council.
A.P.C., 402.
Meeting at Greenwich, 5 May. Present: Chancellor, Great Master, Privy Seal, Durham, Winchester, [Cheyney, Gage, Browne, Wingfield, Petre, Sadler, Riche, Baker]. Business:—Wourley, page of the Pallet Chamber, for proud behaviour to the Council in his examination for unseemly reasoning of Scripture, committed to the Porter's lodge. Trymmel of Rye committed to the Tower for spoil of Spaniards' goods claimed by Barth. Fortuni. Letter to lieutenant of the Tower to let no one have access to Trymmel. Letters to Chancellor of Ireland to repair hither. Goldsmith, clerk of the Council there, bearer of the said letters, instructed, after seeing the Chancellor on shipboard, to deliver to each of the Council there, apart, letters requiring their private answer to the following articles (here follow the sixteen articles of No. 745 (2) concerning the Deputy, Ormond and the Chancellor). Letters to Lord Admiral in favour of Cornelis de Frasto. To customers of Southampton and Portsmouth to permit wares for Portugal to be transferred from the hulks taken to the King's service. To John Valentyne, on behalf of the Emperor's ambassador, for lease of his house in the country. Cornelys Vanden, the Queen's servant, had passport towards Almain. Letter to Abp. of York to appoint a more convenient place for the Mint, or else appoint it at St. Leonard's. Upon letters from Jas. Skynner, Nic. Legh and Wm. Sanders, of Surrey, touching lewd words by Seton, a Scot, who had escaped from the constable, answer was made to warn the constable to be more careful, and punish Seton's wife like a vagabond, and likewise himself if he may be found.
5 May. 745. The Privy Council to Certain of the Council of Ireland.
R. O.
St. P., iii. 566.
The King, desiring to know certain matters touching the state of that realm, and knowing your wisdom and experience there, requires you to answer the enclosed articles in your own hand, with reasons, "not omitting to declare at good length, without respect of any man, frankly your opinion in every part thereof." The King's further pleasure is that you keep this letter and articles and the effect of them secret, not conferring upon any part of them with any other man of the Council or others.
Draft, pp. 3. Endd.: M. of the l'res sent to divers of the Counseile in Irelande, vo Maii, wt articles enclosed.
R. O.
St. P., iii. 566.
2. The Articles.
1. First, to certify the state of the land, and whether it is better than when the lord Deputy came there. 2. What obedience the King has more than six years past and what tributes then paid to Irishmen are now extinct? 3. What fortresses upon the English pale are most meet to be in the King's hands? 4. Whether any of the Englishry hold lands which ought to be the King's? 5. How Sir Ant. Sentleger, Deputy, has used himself in the King's service, and how he has administered justice? 6. What gifts and rewards he has taken, and for what causes? 7. Whether he has ever misused any of the Council there? 8. To signify what misdemeanours you know in the lord Chancellor, or earl of Ormond, "or any of them," especially the Chancellor; aud how they have used the Deputy in Councils and elsewhere. 9. By whose means the accusations lately exhibited against the Deputy were set forth, whether any of the Council were doers therein, what you did and what others did? 10. Whether the Chancellor has always attended in Council, or upon feigned causes absented himself? 11. Whether he has in matters of justice taken rewards, of either side or both? 12. Whether he has upon leases reserved any part to himself, to the King's hindrance. 13. What murders have been committed by soldiers in Dublin these six years, or have been "bolstered" by the Deputy? 14. By whose procurement the Kavenaughes are now united, who were at variance when the Deputy departed? 15. How may the realm best be governed to the King's honor and profit? 16. To signify the misdemeanours of every Councillor, and whether they attend upon their offices, and what dissensions are between any of them, and why?
Pp. 2.
5 May. 746. Sir Henry Savill to [William] Plumpton.
Corresp. 250
Cousin Plumpton. I write because Roger Ramy told me you would be at Thornhill about Low Sunday. "Ye shall come to a old house clean down and as yet little amended; but ye shall be very welcome." Would be sorry not to be at home when he comes. Tomorrow I must ride to Tankerslay, 8 miles hence, and meet my lord of Shrewsbury, and on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday a great number of gentlemen meet at "Cocxs" at Sheffield, where I intend to be, lying every night at Tankerslay; so it will be Friday ere I come home, which is the xviij (xiiij) May. Hopes he can put off his coming till then, or else come to Tankerslay, where he will show him a "polard or two" and some cockfighting. There will be Lancashire of one part, Derbyshire of another and Hallamshire of the third part. "I perceive your cocking varieth from ours for ye lay but the battle." This Wednesday at Thornhill, 5 May 1546, 38 H. VIII.
5 May. 747. Joachim Gundelfinger to Mont.
R. O. After the bp. of Westminster's departure, when I had gone to Augsburg, on Easter Day, there came to my house one calling himself Anthonius Musica, who told my wife that he was sent from the King and had many thousand crowns to deliver to me to buy arms. My wife answered that I would be back the next Wednesday, and meanwhile he should enjoy my hospitality. He gave out that Philip Palatine should lead 20 standards of footmen into England and I should be the King's commissary therein; and many both nobles and others who had arms, came to me desiring to be remembered. Not knowing the man, I was for some days in expectation of orders from the King. At length, after accepting a loan of some crowns from me and always affirming the coming shortly of those 20,000 cr., he departed without saluting me on the 2nd May, and aroused the laughter of the whole city. Now I have heard that relying on his knowledge of various tongues, he sometimes talks rather boldly. I will gladly write better things of Musica when I learn them; for this levity of a servant of the King, a joke to others, was shame to me.
Lat. In Mont's hand, p. 1. Endd.: Translatio epistole misse a Joachimo Gundelfinger ad Christophorum Mont.
R. O. 2. Original of the above. Dated Nurinb', 5 May '46.
German. Hol., pp. 2. Add.: [Fra]nckfordt. Endd.: Goldenfinger to Mr. Mount.


  • n1. Andrew Dudley.
  • n2. May 2nd.
  • n3. May 6th.