Henry VIII: September 1519

Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 3, 1519-1523. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1867.

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'Henry VIII: September 1519', Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 3, 1519-1523, (London, 1867), pp. 156-162. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/letters-papers-hen8/vol3/pp156-162 [accessed 21 June 2024].

. "Henry VIII: September 1519", in Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 3, 1519-1523, (London, 1867) 156-162. British History Online, accessed June 21, 2024, https://www.british-history.ac.uk/letters-papers-hen8/vol3/pp156-162.

. "Henry VIII: September 1519", Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 3, 1519-1523, (London, 1867). 156-162. British History Online. Web. 21 June 2024, https://www.british-history.ac.uk/letters-papers-hen8/vol3/pp156-162.


September 1519

1 Sept.
R. O.
Received two letters from him at the same time, recommending Dr. John Veysy, a councillor, and dean of the chapel, to the bishopric of Exeter. All his efforts on Veysy's behalf were unavailing. The cardinals would not consent to the diminution of the tax, as they say it is not usual either to increase it with the increase of the revenue of a bishopric, or diminish it as it diminishes. Has written more fully to Veysy. John of London, the Cistercian monk, in whose favor the King wrote, and who was to have been promoted to the see of Down, died a few days after his arrival at Rome. Rome, 1 Sept. 1519. Signed.
Lat., p. 1. Add.
1 Sept.
R. O.
Received on the 20th inst. his letter dated the 1st, concerning the election of the Emperor, and containing the King and Wolsey's complaints of the Pope. Answers that portion of the letter in cipher. After explaining to the Pope the contents of the letter relating to the legateship, in which Wolsey gives reasons why the duration of the office should not be limited, he exhorted Wolsey to continue in such a holy work, saying that though he cannot comply at once, since he has granted the French legateship for a year only, he will prorogue the office before it expire, as often as necessary. Is sure that he will do as he says. The Pope approves of the visit next summer of the Emperor to Germany to correct the excesses (fn. 1) there, and of the visit of the lady Margaret to Spain, who is a woman of great prudence. Told him what Wolsey wrote about the ratification of the truce. He will wait the arrival of Campeggio, as Henry proposes, with letters of confirmation, relating to the Turkish expedition.
Thanks Wolsey for obtaining from the King liberty for him to visit his native place and family. Will return by the 15th Oct., when the Pope will leave for a holiday according to his yearly custom. Will return earlier, if necessary, as he will be within four days' journey. Thanks him also for the gift of 500 ducats. His income is insufficient for his attendance at Rome, except he be assisted by the King's and Wolsey's liberality. Will attend to the expedition of the bulls for the elect bishop of Exeter. Is surprised at the report of the merchants that the charges at Rome are increased, and new offices appointed to extort money. Believes the charges remain as usual. Can do nothing for the reduction of the ancient tax on the bishopric, for which the bishop elect wrote to him, although he solicited all the cardinals. The courier has been kept back two days on account of a crime which has just been committed at Rome. A noble Spaniard, a physician, and knight of the order of the Red Sword, was surprised at night in his bed, and carried off towards Naples, by the order of Don Lewis Carroz, the Spanish ambassador, because he was engaged in some suit in the court affecting the interests of the King Catholic. The Pope was angry with Carroz, more so than ever the writer has seen him, threatening to have his head cut off unless the man were brought back, and desiring he should never appear in his presence again. This is a sample of what will happen after the investiture of the kingdom of Naples and the confirmation of the empire. People anticipate many evils will arise. Rome, 1 Sept. 1519. Signed.
Lat., pp. 5. Add.
1 Sept.
R. O.
The Spanish ambassador, who is afraid to leave his house, has asked him and the other ambassadors to intercede for him with the Pope. Could not induce the Pope to pardon him unless the man were brought back to Rome, and his Holiness threatens all the accomplices of the crime. Informs Wolsey of this, at the Pope's request; that if he has to proceed to further measures, Henry will not be surprised, but assist him in a cause so just. If it be necessary to resort to such proceedings, many scandals will arise. Rome, 1 Sept. 1519. Signed.
Lat., p. 1. Add.
6 Sept.
Calig. D. VII.
B. M.
Wrote his last on the 14th Aug. The King tells him that he has heard from his ambassador that the king of Castile will go next summer into Flanders, thence to Frankfort. He thinks Charles will go to Rome to be crowned, and must pass through France or the Venetian territory; but neither the Pope nor the Venetians wish him to go to Rome. He thinks also the Emperor will not be able to pay for his coronation. Had a long talk with the King's mother respecting Don Ferdinand and his prospects. She thinks it will be a long time before his brother Charles can have children; and Madame Charlotte, the King's daughter, is only three years old. She said she heard he had few folks of honor about him, "and said how Bouton was put to him." Her son will be this winter at Lyons, near the king of Castile, the Swiss and the Pope, the Venetians and Milan. The King has been curious to know what sort of a man the English ambassador in Spain is. The Queen will, in the course of a fortnight, send a gentleman to England with a token to queen Katharine, and another from the Dauphin to the Princess. The Venetian ambassador is on his return here from England, of which he gives a good report. The Pope's legate and the ambassador of Venice have more communication than usual with the King, and the Spaniard less. William Pa[wne] has been despatched with a letter to Loogis, governor of Tournay, commissioning the latter to buy such material of him as may be needful for the repair of the castle. Seigneur Marcantoyn de Coloigne (Colonna) is here, in great favor with the King, "and is of the order of France." He is sick, but not dangerously. The Admiral is still sick. The Legate will have the bishopric of Coutance. The cardinal of Roussy died lately at Rome. Great sickness reigns here. Blois, 6 Sept. Signature burnt off.
Mutilated, pp. 3. Add.
6 Sept.
R. O.
Has heard by his priest, the bearer, Wolsey's intentions respecting the controllership of the King's household, and his wish that Boleyn should have the treasurership. Whatever grant he has had of the former, he now resigns it to the King and Wolsey's hands, as the bearer will further inform him. Is much bound by Wolsey's promise to send him his diet for the half year. Blois, 6 Sept.
Hol., p. 1. "My lord legate, cardinal and chancellor of England."
11 Sept.
R. O.
Ellis, 3 Ser.
I. 198.
448. PACE to WOLSEY.
Mr. Hesdin desires him to inform Wolsey that he has today received letters from my lady Margaret, stating that the French king tries hard to induce the king of the Romans to pass through his realm into Almayne, offering the Queen and her children as hostages for the safety of his person. Hesdin thinks the bishop of Elna, now arrived at Gravesend, should be well entertained at his coming, that he may have no occasion to write otherwise than well. The dean of Paul's (Colet) has lain since Thursday in extremis, and is not yet dead. London, 11 Sept.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: To my lord Legate's grace.
12 Sept.
Galba, B. V.
B. M.
The bishop of Elna and John de la Sauch arrived yesterday at London. Has received commands from his master to apply to Wolsey for an audience with the King. The envoys abovesaid bring agreeable proposals. As Wolsey has been the great mover of this alliance, begs he will see them favorably received. They will thank the King for the offers made by him to their master. John de la Sauch will speak to him of the marriage he knows of. The matter will be easy to colour (bonne a excuser). Both have been well received in Calais; they were conducted half a league out of the town, and the old controller [Wiltshire] came with them the whole way. Is advertised by my Lady that Francis uses every effort to induce the King (Charles) to pass through his dominions, offering his wife and children as hostages. Wolsey' is omnipotent in all these affairs, as Charles will be entirely governed by the counsel of England. London, 12 Sept. '19. Signed.
Fr., pp. 2, mutilated.
16 Sept.
R. O.
On Wednesday last was with the Legate about some affairs of the Emperor. Wolsey said that Tuke had gone to the King on the same business; and at his return, which was expected in a day or two, Tuke would give Jouglet an answer. The bearer, Richart Courrier, is charged to bring back the said reply speedily. London, 16 Sept.
Hol., Fr., p. 1. Add.
16 Sept.
R. O.
Desires to know wherein he has offended, "to be thus unkindly intreated and discharged" from the "office of Knarsburgh," notwithstanding Darcy's promise. Although he has been disabled by the "stroke of God," prays for the 50 marks due for five years' fee. Adwykk, 16 Sept. Signed.
P. 1. Endd.: Copy of Sir Ric. Mallyverer's letter to my L. in Sept. anno 11.
21 Sept.
Vit. B. IV.
B. M.
Has not written to him since his last from Calais. Proceeded thence through France to Brussels;—paid his respects to the lady Margaret and prince Ferdinand, and satisfied them of the King and Wolsey's good feelings towards them. Arrived at the court of France on the 19th. Had an interview with the King next day. Spoke of the kind treatment he had received in England. The King expressed his great affection to England, and his desire for a firm union. He is well aware of Henry's cordiality, from other proofs than the restitution of Tournay, and begged Campeggio to say so;—stating that he would consider Wolsey, not as his servant, but as his special friend. On Campeggio presenting his letters, he embraced him, and offered him, with great delicacy, a pension of 8,000 francs. Is indebted for this liberality to the king of England, but would accept no benefit except from England. Proceeds on his journey tomorrow. Blois, 21 Sept. 1519.
P.S.—Card. S.M. in Porticu sends his compliments. Signature burnt.
Lat., mutilated, pp. 3. Add. and endd.
24 Sept.
Calig. E. I. 13.
B. M.
Begs credence for the seigneur de Saint Romain and master Pierre Cordier, and requests that they may have liberty to go to the borders of Scotland. Hopes he will prevent any inconvenience such as happened to his ambassador Poillot. Bloys, 24 Sept. Signed.
Fr., p. 1, mutilated. Add.: "A mons. le cardinal Dyort, mon bon ami, legat," &c.
24 Sept.
Calig. D. VII.
B. M.
Wrote his last on the 6th, which he sent by his priest. On Sunday came the Pope's legate that was late in England, and was brought to the court on Monday by the cardinal of Bourbon and others. The King received him "in his dining chamber, somewhat within the door," embraced him, and led him by the hand "to a beddys syde in the same chamber, and so stonding there talked with hym half a quarter of an howre," when he delivered the King a letter from England, which he read; and calling the other Legate, "talked with hym, lenyng on the bedde more than half an howre," whilst the cardinal of Bourbon discoursed with the other Legate. The Legate speaks very highly of the liberality of England; says that the King here willed the other Legate to show him that he would give him an annual pension of 8,000 francs a year, which he refused, as he could not serve two masters, and wished to remain faithful to Henry. He left Blois yesterday morning, when Boleyn accompanied him a mile on his way, and received from him two letters, transmitted herewith; one to Wolsey, the other to the Venetian ambassador in England. He had no other convoy but his own company of 24 horses and 5 mules.
Hither is also come the ambassador sent to Scotland, and taken prisoner there, who reports well of the great cheer made to him by Wolsey in England, and of Henry's interference to procure his deliverance. Two ambassadors are now sent to Scotland, the one of the great Council and Parliament here, the other Lafayette's brother, captain of Boleyn. They are to go through England, show their instructions to Henry, and be ordered by him in everything. It is reported by the French ambassador in Spain, that Charles will go next March through England to Flanders. In hunting yesterday, "and riding under a [tree] with a bough," the King hurt his brow, for which he keeps his [chamber]. The admiral is coming from Orleans within ... Divers gentlemen of the court have gone to meet him. In consequence of the sickness, it is forbidden, on pain of death, that any one coming from Paris, Tours, Amboise, or Vendôme, enter this town. The Chancery is to be kept for awhile at Meun near Orleans. My lady the King's mother has the gout. The Queen is supposed to be with child. Blois, 24 Sept. Signature half burnt.
Mutilated, pp. 3. Add. Endd.
28 Sept.
R. O.
Writes in behalf of Antony Savage, brother of Susan Savage, a servant of hers. At Wolsey's last being with her and Suffolk, at Letheryngham Hall, he promised to show some favor to Savage in his trouble. Butley Abbey, 28 Sept. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: "My lord Cardinal."
29 Sept.
R. O.
456. JOHN SHIRLEY, cofferer of the Household.
"Desperat tailes in ao xo r. Hen. VIII."
For the assignment made upon the Hanaper, 500l. "Upon the Warwick, Spencer and Sarum is lands," 633l. 6s. 8d. Upon the lands in the Isle of Wight, 88l. 17s. 8½d. Upon "censu forestæ de Cornbury," 7l. Upon the ulnage of Northampton, 4l. 10s.; of London, 16l. Upon the custom of Southampton, 200l. 1,449l. 14s. 4½d.
ii. Petition of John Shirley, cofferer, for letters of privy seal to Sir John Heron, ordering him to pay the above sum to Shirley, in full satisfaction of the said "desperate tailes" remaining in his accounts from Michaelmas 10 to Michaelmas 11 Hen. VIII.
Pp. 2.
Yearly expenses of the sheriffs of Bristol, which they are bound to pay of their yearly receipt of 60l. of the chamber of the same town, for the lands taken out of their predecessors' hands, and of the tolls, forfeitures, deodands, &c. which they receive. The following charges have always been paid by the sheriffs and bailiffs until Wm. Dale, now one of the sheriffs, refuses to pay, contrary to his oath and an ordinance made by a former mayor and council; "and to any other charges specified in the articles of the said sheriff, the said sheriffs ben not bounden nor need not to pay but at their pleasures."
The King's fee farm in the Exchequer, 102l. 15s. 6d. The abbot of Tewkesbury, 14l. 10s. The prior of St. James, 3l. The constable of the castle, 28l. 7s. 3½d. The foresters of Kyngeswood, 11l. 7s. For the profers at Michaelmas, 3l. 3s. For writing them, 2s. Wax to seal them and wine, 14d. Sending them in a box, 4d. For the "proffers" at Easter, 41s. 8d. Making the sheriff's account yearly, 8l. Wages of the sheriff's four waiting men, 26s. 8d. a year each. To the porters of Newgate, Ratclif gate, Temple gate, Frome gate and Pithey gate, 5l. 13s. 4d. To the keeper of the key, 26s. 8d. To the Keeper of the back, 26s. 8d. For the winter livery, 9l. 2s. 8d. The summer livery, 5l. 16s. To the mayor: for his pension, 20l.; for 12 yds. scarlet, 8l.; the fur, 6l. 13s. 4d.; wine, 3l. 6s. 8d.; for the minstrels, 3l. 6s. 8d.; for 2 torches, 13s. 4d.; for the commission of the Staple Court, 22s. 6d.; for 2 scabbards, 30s. To the swordbearer: for his pension, 3l.; his fur, 6s. 8d.; his summer gown, 13s. 4d.; two hats, 40s.; two hats, 40s.; a winter gown of six broad yards, at 5s. a yd. To the mayor's four servants: four gowns of 16 broad yds. at 4s. 4d. To the recorder: for his fee, 10l.; 10 yds. scarlet, 6l. 13s. 4d.; his fur, 3l. To the town clerk: for his fee, 4l.; his fur, 6s. 8d.; parchment, wax and wine, 20s.; for two law days, 6s. 8d.; a gown of six broad yards, at 5s. a yard. To the steward: for his fee, 3l.; his fur, 6s. 8d.; parchment, paper and wine, 9s. 4d.; a gown of five broad yards, at 5s. the yard; 20 quires of paper for him and the town clerk, with two forells and two bags, 6s. 8d. A gown of four broad yards for the townclerk's clerk, 4s. a yd.; a gown for the steward's clerk, ditto. To the town attorney: for his fee, 3l.; his fur, 6s. 8d.; a gown of five broad yards, at 5s. a yard. The under sheriff's fee, 40s. To the chamberlain, a gown of five broad yards, at 4s. 4d. a yd. To St. George's priest, his wages, 5l. 6s. 8d., and a gown. To the water bailly, a gown. The waits of the town, 29s. 8d., and three gowns. To the keeper of the market, a gown. The charges of Spycer's Obyte: to the mayor, 6s. 8d.; the town clerk, 3s. 4d.; four servants, 16d.; 20 priests, 6s. 8d.; four orders of friars, 13s. 4d.; the vicar of St. Nicholas, for light, 3s.; bellringing, 4s.; the bellman, 4d.; bread dealt to poor people, 30s. 4d. Keeping St. Nicholas' clock, 26s. 8d. Ringing the common bell on Michaelmas day, 4s. Six torches at St. George's Tide, 20s. Drinking at the same feast, 3l. 6s. 8d. Drinking at Trinity Chapel, 20s. Costs at sessions and gaol delivery, 40s. Drinking on St. Nicholas' day, 3s. 4d. The wrestling at St. Laurens, 6s. 8d.; pears and wine, 6s. 8d. Wrestling at St. James's Tide, 6s. 8d. The bearwards, 3s. 4d. The minstrels, 6s. 8d. The messengers of the Exchequer, 4s. For a sermon at St. Austin's, 6s. 8d. The four orders of friars, 32s. The charges of Midsummer watch, which is at their pleasure, but by estimation 20l.
Total costs, 346l. 0s. 5½d., stated by the sheriff to be 31l. 2s. 11d. more. Average receipts, 286l. 17s. 8d., stated by the sheriff to be 14l. 7s. less. Average expense, 50l. 2s. 9d., "which is not for any honest person called to any worshipful room in any town to complain of." The 240l. mentioned by the said sheriff is charge for meat and drink and raiment for his own household. "It is thought their apparel for them and their wives is too sumptuous, and proceedeth of their high and prodigal minds," for it is "more than good reason and discretion, and would agree rather to be for a mayor and his wife than a sheriff," and can be diminished at pleasure. The fees and casualties received by the recorder, town clerk, steward and town attorney cannot be diminished as the said sheriff alleges. All his considerations are insufficient. His predecessors have always been content to bear the said charge.
Sept./GRANTS. 458. GRANTS in SEPTEMBER 1519.
4. Charles De Moy. Licence to import 200 tuns of Gascon wine. Greenwich, 16 Aug. 11 Hen. VIII. Del. Newehall, 4 Sept.—P. S. Pat. p. 2, m. 31.
4. Rob. Adams, porter, alias soldier, of Calais, Wm. Gilbert, alias Northfolk, of Calais, watchman, and John Bolt, of Calais, commoner. Pardon for an affray. Del. Newehall, 4 Sept. 11 Hen. VIII.—S.B. Pat. p. 2, m. 21.
12. Wm. Vertue and Hen. Redmayn. mason. To be master masons of the King's works in the Tower of London and elsewhere, during pleasure, with 12d. a day, and a robe like the suit of esquires of the household; on surrender, by Vertue, of patent 28 July 2 Hen. VIII. "T[este]," Westm., 7 July 11 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 12 Sept. 11 Hen. VIII.—S.B. Pat. p. 1, m. 23.
20. Edward and Miles Forest. To be bailiffs of Middelham and keepers of "le West parke" there, in survivorship, on surrender of patent 27 Jan. 20 Hen VII., granting the same to James Conyers, serjeant-at-arms. Del. Westm.,—Aug.—Hen. VIII.—S.B. Westm., 20 Sept. Pat. 11 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 20.
23. Sir Rob. Constable. To be steward of the lordship of Hothom, York; with an annuity of 20 marks out of the issues thereof. Del. Westm., 23 Sept. 11 Hen. VIII.—S.B.
24. Sir John Walop. Licence to import 300 tuns of Gascon wine and Toulouse woad. Newhall, 8 Sept. 11 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 24 Sept.—P. S. Fr., m. 5.
26. Th. Nott, grocer, London. Protection; going in the retinue of Sir John Pecche, deputy of Calais. Havering, 22 Aug. 11 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 26 Sept.—P.S.
26. Humph. Coke. To be head carpenter of the King's works during pleasure, with 12d. a day. Havering, 22 Aug. 11 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 26 Sept.—P.S. Pat. p. 2, m. 31.
26. Tho. Thwaytis. Annuity of 20l. out of the customs and subsidies of the port of Ipswich, Suff. Del. Westm., 26 Sept. 11 Hen. VIII.—S.B. Pat. p. 2, m. 28.
27. Nich. Jenyns, of London, leather dresser. To be the King's leather dresser or serjeant furrier (serviens pelletriæ) vice Th. Jenyns, deceased, with 12d. a day. Westm., 27 Sept.—Pat. 11 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 20.
Draft of the same.—R. O.
28. William Dod, vintner, alias merchant, of London. Protection; going in the suite of Sir John Peche, deputy of Calais. Del. Westm., 28 Sept. 11 Hen. VIII.—S.B.


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