Henry VIII: January 1521

Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 3, 1519-1523. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1867.

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'Henry VIII: January 1521', in Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 3, 1519-1523, (London, 1867) pp. 415-427. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/letters-papers-hen8/vol3/pp415-427 [accessed 12 April 2024]


January 1521

2 Jan.
C. VII. 214.
Strype's Eccl.
Mem. I.
pt. 2. p. 35.
Received great consolation from Wolsey's last letters, stating that he had instituted, and appointed an early day to commence, a reformation of the whole clergy. Has desired to see this day as Simeon desired to see the Messiah; and since he read Wolsey's letters, doubts not to see a more full reformation of the whole English hierarchy than he ever could hope for in this age. Has endeavored to do within his own small jurisdiction what Wolsey has resolved upon in both the provinces of England; but though he has given all his study to it for nearly three years, where he had to correct and punish, he found the clergy, and particularly (what he did not at first suspect) the monks, so depraved, so licentious and corrupt, that he despaired of any perfect reformation, even in his own diocese. Has known, by experience, that whatever Wolsey undertakes he will do; and such is his skill in divine and human affairs, and his authority with King and Pope, of which the fame has spread over the world, that he will undoubtedly achieve by this reformation a fame greater than that of all preceding legates. Marwell, postridie calendas Januarias. Signed.
Lat., pp. 2.
Vit. B. v. 136. B. M. 1123. [CAMPEGGIO to WOLSEY.]
Excuses the long interval since he wrote last. Before Christmas, the Pope was absent several days hunting and riding "in his suburbanis locis." When he returned, the ceremonies of the festival left no time for business, though the affairs of the court are slow enough of themselves. Sends two briefs, the one for the King and the other for Wolsey, in reply to the letters brought by himself. The Pope desires him and Worcester to urge the King to persevere in promoting peace among Christian princes, and not take part with either the French king or the King Catholic, but make himself an arbiter between them, whose counsel his Holiness will follow. They assured the Pope this was quite the King's intention; which, though declared before to the Pope and Cardinal de Medicis, they are always glad to hear repeated. The Pope is thus led to believe that in time the holy expedition will take effect, of which the King's piety first raised his hopes. In the brief for Wolsey the Pope has ordered a clause to be inserted about the matters of the bishop of Worcester, to show that what Campeggio formerly wrote was by his order. He has again enjoined him to urge Wolsey to intercede for him with the King. Sends the bull for the continuance of the legateship for two years from the termination of the first grant. In granting it, the Pope said he wished Wolsey to acknowledge his kindness, that he might bind him to the interests of the Holy See. He meant this in reference to the affair of the half-tenth, wherein Wolsey ought certainly to do his best to satisfy him; which, Campeggio said, he had no doubt he would do. Had expedited (expediveram) a confessional for the King and Queen, and their children, born and to be born; but it was so full of errors, it had to be recopied, and cannot be sent now.
Lat., mutilated, pp. 2. The last leaf wanting.
6 Jan.
R. O.
Rym. XIII. 734.
1124. LEO X. to WOLSEY.
On the return of Campeggio, granted Wolsey continuation of his legatine authority, with the visitation of the monasteries, first for one year after Campeggio's departure, and then for two years from the expiration of that time, with the additional privilege of granting absolution to those who hear him perform mass in the presence of the King and Queen. Continues these powers two years longer. Rome, 1520, 8 id. Jan., pont. 8.
Vellum, Lat., sub plumbo.
7 Jan. 1125. For the SUBPRIOR, &c. of the AUGUSTINE MONASTERY of ST. MARY, SOUTHWIKE, Winch. dioc.
Congé d'élire, vice Thos. Kent, deceased. Westm., 7 Nov.
Pat 12 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 8.
8 Jan.
Calig. D. VIII. 1.
B. M.
Carew arrived at Funtayn, 31 Dec. Both went the same night to Mounfroo, in the Forest of Bullayn, where the French king lay. Carew presented his letters and instructions. Francis thanked him heartily; and I then showed him about the coronation of the Emperor, and the great labor made by the ambassador of Hungary, and other Almain princes, that the Emperor should take the daughter of Hungary in marriage, which he has refused, in accordance with the King's advice, and concluded the marriage for his brother, Don Fernando, in order to keep his promises with the French king. Francis replied, that if the Emperor kept all promises, the King might be sure they would not be broken by him; that as to the diet about to assemble "after this xii. day," he believed it was for three purposes: 1st, to have aid in recovering the imperial crown, for which Francis thinks the sum demanded will be so great that it will not be granted; 2nd, to have aid in repressing the mutiny in Spain, which will be refused; 3rd, to make Don Fernando king of the Romans, which Francis thinks the Electors will not submit to. Carew also told him that, after the diet and the marriage, the Emperor was determined to return to the Low Countries, giving up his journey to Rome, and soon after to pass into Spain to put down the rebellion. Francis answered little, except that it was needful for him to do so. Carew told him that the King had persuaded the Pope, the Emperor, the Swiss and all the estates of Italy to maintain friendship with France, so that he should have [no] occasion to cross the mountains again, except for his pastime. Francis thanked him, and said his going there was only for the satisfaction of his subjects, and the reform of justice. His mother goes with him, and says, "if he in[tended] otherwise than peace, he would have xx ... of artillery in the lieu and place of the sa ..." When talking on this subject with the Admiral, he thought Henry's counsel right good and [honorable] to the King his master, and that if [Francis' going] over were to his honor the King would not advise him against it. On the French king's coming to Lyons, [he] shall be advertised touching the affairs of Milan more than he knows yet, "and ... if the King his master may conclude all such ... as toucheth his honor and profit," the Admiral will, for his part, advise him not to cross the mountains, as it will be expensive.
As to the new interview, the French king is content to put Wolsey in the same authority on his behalf as in the last. When Carew had declared the King's command touching the sending of Mons. Dowbeney into Scotland as Albany's lieutenant, the King answered that he was sent, against his own will, in consequence of the communication at Arde between the King's mother, Wolsey and mons. l'Amiral, in order to advise the Scots to send an embassy to England for peace; and to show this more clearly, Francis will send Wolsey Dowbeney's instructions.
This day, the King received letters from Scotland from Mons. Dowbeney, and showed Carew and Jerningham that Dowbeney had arrived at Edinburgh, with the Bishop of St. Andrew's and many other lords of Scotland. "And twenty miles thence, on the other party was the ... Chancellor, with divers other lords of the country, t ... number of people with her; and like to have b[een great] inconvenience, if the said Mons. Dowbeney had ..." Having shown his charge to the [king] of Scots, the bishop of St. Andrew's and others, Dowbeney desired [to speak] with the Queen, the Chancellor "and other of hi[r council]," and intreated them in such wise that an appointment is made by which the Queen is to enjoy her dowry, and no further inconvenience is likely to arise.—Francis told them he had written with his own hand to Wolsey touching the duke of Ferrara, a letter which he thought should have been kept secret; but he had a letter from Rome containing the same wo[rds] as the letter the King sent to Wolsey. The Pope's ambassador in England, he says, wrote this letter to his Holiness, and states that Wolsey had shown the matter to him. I have enquired the substance of the four young gentlemen whose names you sent me in your last. They are of good houses and rents, as will be seen by the enclosed bill. The Admiral declares they are of as good houses and greater rents than those in England. They will be sent to Boulogne, and when there will notify the ambassador of France; and when the others are sent to Calais, these will be delivered at Calais, according to the treaty. Carew has been well entertained by the French king since his coming. Francis has "as familiar and great ... as he can desire." He is much pleased with the King's presents, especially the doublet, and asked if they were made in England. Arromatyn, 8[Jan]ever. Signed.
Pp. 7. Add.: To my lord Cardinal's good grace. Endd.
Calig. B. VI.
B. M.
1127. 2. Duplicate of the INSTRUCTIONS of "Messires ROBERT ESTUARD, &c., SEIGNEUR DAUBIGNY" [from France].
(1.) That the king of Scotland should maintain peace during his minority; (2.) that Francis, immediately on his accession, had despatched, at their request, the sieur de Flamigny (lord Fleming ?) and Jaques Ogubi, ambassadors of Scotland to Lewis XII.; (3.) that, on his making a treaty with England similar to that of Lewis, he would have included Scotland; (4.) but had been obliged to make modifications, subject to which it was sent by Villebresme to Scotland, accepted by the Estates there, and sent to the king of England. (5.) Thus the king of France conceived that peace between Scotland and England would remain unbroken; but as it turned out otherwise, they had been obliged to make a truce; (6.) to prevent the expiration of which, he had despatched as ambassadors the sieur de St. Romain and Cordier to England, and thence to Scotland. (7.) To secure the peace of Christendom, he had sent the Admiral into England to form a new treaty, desiring that Scotland should be comprehended therein, without effect. (8.) After its conclusion he had sent Denis Poullot into Scotland to notify the comprehension and the modifications required, which they would not accept. (9.) Thereupon the said Flamigny required the recal of Albany into Scotland, saying there were so many disorders that otherwise the kingdom would go to perdition. (10.) At the meeting of the two Kings at Ardre and Guyne, Francis and "Madame sa mère" used their efforts to comprehend Scotland in a treaty, without effect. (11.) On proposing Albany's return, Wolsey had declared it was not agreeable to the King his master, or safe for his nephew, and if Albany attempted it England would oppose him; (12.) that intestine divisions were fomented by the Duke, not by England; that if the king of Scotland would send an ambassador to England, the queen of Scots would do the same, and compose all divisions. (13.) As soon as Flamigny should return to Scotland with the pacificatory letters, Francis would send an ambassador to assist in tranquillising the kingdom, which he had accordingly done; help to recal the exiles, compose the differences, and aid the Queen. (14.) They will show the king of Scotland and his council the good will that France has always borne them in promoting the national interest. (15.) Scotchmen were treated in France like natives, and held in such esteem that they formed the King's chief bodyguard. (16.) In consideration of which, and their own interest and security, the ambassadors shall beseech them to stop this effusion of Christian blood. (17.) If Albany returns war must inevitably ensue, and therefore (18.) it is better he should stay in France. (19.) For these reasons, Francis has promised to prevent his going. (20.) They shall urge the sending two ambassadors to England, as above, and the payment of the Queen's dowry.
Fr., pp. 15. Endd.: Double des instructions à Mons. d'Aubigny.
10 Jan.
R. O.
Inventory of the tackle, &c. belonging to the Herry Grace Diewe, now in the storehouse at Erith, in the keeping of John Hopton, viewed by Sir [Ric.] Wyngfeld and Sir Weston Browne, by the King's order, 10 Jan. 12 Hen. VIII. The main stay, of 16 inches, tarred, little worn. 2 main "bollyn." A halser of 8 inches, tarred, &c. 2 cables new tarred; one 22 inches, the other 20 inches. A cablet of 9 inches, tarred, &c. on the loft. The garlonds for the main-top, the fore-top, and the main-top gallant, of iron. Garlonds for the fore-top gallant, main mizen, and bonaventure, &c. A halser of 6 inches, for a gier for the main sail. A snache pulley with a brazen schever. Halsers from 4 inches to 8 inches. 181 morrispikes. 51 flagstaves. 136 javelines. 12 dozen casting darts. 6 dozen fyldstakes. 17 dozen long targets, and—round targets. The main course with two bonnets double.
Pp. 3.
11 Jan.
R. O.
Ellis, 3 Ser.
I. 235.
Reminds him of a licence he asked for at Hampton Court, for him and two of his brothers to export and import goods until the customs on them shall amount to 2,400l., which they will pay at the rate of 300 marks yearly. Wishes to know his pleasure soon, as he is sending a ship to Turkey. "And whereas your grace oweth me 280l., I am contented to give it your grace for the said licence, and have made your grace a general quittance, which I delivered your grace at Hampton Court." London, 11 Jan. 1520. Has given the said licence to Master Henage.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: To my lord Cardinal's good grace. Endd.
12 Jan.
R. O.
1130. BAPTISTA DE TAXIS, Imperial Postmaster.
Three receipts for 324 florins received from Sir Wm. Santhes, treasurer of Calais, for posts from Calais to Brussels, from 12 Jan. 1520 to 12 April of the same year, commencing at Christmas. Calais, x .. July 1520. Signed.
Fr., mutilated, and the writing much faded. Endd.: "The posts for three months."
R. O. ii. Three receipts by the same for 324 (?) florins, from Sir Wm ... verts (?), treasurer of Calais, for the payment of posts for the King from Mechlin to Calais. Dated at Mechlin, 12 Nov. [12 Dec.]. and 12 Jan. 1520.
Hol., Lat., mutilated. Endd.: 12 acquittances of the posts.
15 Jan.
Mon. Vatican.
p. 3.
Jortin, III. 87.
1131. LEO X. to ERASMUS.
Is glad to find by his letters that his loyalty to the apostolic see continues unshaken. Praises the services he has rendered to literature, and assures him he shall always be gladly received whenever he thinks of visiting Rome. Rome, 15 Jan. 1521.
19 Jan.
Vit. B. IV. 79.
B. M.
Spoke in his last of the death of the Turk. Has since heard that one Gazele has formed an insurrection against him, who has called the Sophi to his aid. The Pope has sent troops to preserve tranquillity, being apprehensive of the proceedings of the fleet which stormed Zerbe. Rome, 19 Jan. 1521. Signature burnt off.
Lat., mutilated, pp. 2. Add. in modern hand.
19 Jan.
R. O.
A courier of Antwerp brought him yesterday a letter from the King to the Emperor, asking for a licence of wheat for Ant. Vivalde, a letter from Wolsey to Chievres, and one to himself. Will assist Vivalde as Wolsey desires, as soon as his factors come to give him full information; but none have come yet, and the courier has not heard of any one coming. If the King's letters are of the same date as Wolsey's, 22 Nov., the affair has not been conducted with the diligence that was promised when the King's letters were obtained. Perceives by his servant's letters Wolsey's kindness in advancing him a prest of 500 marks for his diets. Will account for it at his return. Worms, 19 January. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add.: My lord Cardinal of York, [legate] de latere, &c. Endd.
20 Jan.
R. O.
Has written by the post which the Emperor is sending to his ambassador in answer to the cordial letters Wolsey wrote lately. Brussels, 20 Jan. 1521. Signed.
Fr., p. 1. Add.: A mons. le legat d'Angleterre.
20 Jan.
R. O.
1135. SIR JOHN DAUNCE and JOHN HALES, the King's General Surveyors, to JAS. WHITENEY, Receiver of Newport, or THOMAS AP MORGAN, his deputy.
At the session of Oyer held in September last at Newport, the King's tenants redeemed the sessions for 600 marks to be paid in three years. As one day is expired, and no process made for levying the money, require him to issue a process out of his Chancery there, for levying what is due. London, 20 Jan. Signed.
P. 1. Add.
20 Jan.
R. O.
In behalf of Gregory Casali, who has asked him to write to Wolsey for expediting his pensions. Knows there is no necessity for doing so, but could not refuse one who had deserved so well of him. Rome, 20 Jan. 1521.
Hears that John de Cavalcanti has got into trouble for undertaking, while Campeggio was in England, to pay money for him in Italy. Requests he may not be molested, as any proceedings taken against him will injure Campeggio. Signed.
Lat., p. 1. Add. Endd.
21 Jan.
Add. MS.
15,387, f. 86.
B. M.
1137. HENRY VIII. to LEO X.
Has consulted with the nuncio, the Pope's auditor, upon certain matters of great importance which the bp. of Worcester had intimated to him in the Pope's name. Has caused Wolsey to write to the Bishop an answer in detail. Greenwich, 21 Jan. 1520.
Lat., copy, pp. 3.
22 Jan.
Rym. XIII.
1138. JAMES V.
Commission to Thomas abbot of Kelso, Andrew Ker of Cesfurde, warden of the Middle Marches, and Adam Ottirburn of Auldhame, to treat for peace between the two kingdoms with Thomas lord Dacre of Graystok. Edinburgh, 22 Jan. 1520.
23 Jan.
R. O.
Articles of marriage between the earl of Kent and Mrs. [Dawes] of London, widow.
The Earl to settle on her lands to the value of 300 mks., for her life, and to be paid 2,000 mks., one half at the marriage, half before the following Pentecost, besides plate or money to the value of 500l. Half the said sum to go to the redeeming of manors, &c. purchased from him by the lord Marquis, Ric. Dicone and Wm. Botry.
Mrs. Dawes not to be indebted to any one at the time of the marriage above 100l. She is to find sureties for the performance of these articles in 3,000l. All her manors, &c. "to be made sure to the said Earl, and to her term of life," and the heirs of her body. Dated 23 Jan. 12 Hen. VIII.
P. 1.
R. O. 1140. LADY OF KENT.
"These byn the parsells that I, Wm. Husy, gentylman, have laide downe for the right honorable lady of Kent at dyverse tymys in London."
12 ells of Holland cloth, at 2s. "Half a nelne of powpyngen sasenet," 3s. 4d. For waving of ribbons, 14d. 1,000 pins, 7d. A frontlet of gold, 40s. 12 yds. of black satin, 5l. 8s. 12 yds. of black velvet, 8l. 3 yards of "tawne medley," 15s. To Jas. Gentyll, mercer, 3½ yds. of French black, 41s. To Jas. Monkecaster, 21s. For making 3 gowns, of black velvet, satin and cloth, and a cloak of camlet, 29s. To Rowche the skinner, for furring and performing furs, 31s. 8d. 1 oz. of gold, 2 oz. of silk, 7s. 8 "elnys" cambric, at 4s. the elne. For making 2 shirts and the gold belonging to them, 8s. 4d. "To deliver unto my lord, by your commandment," 6s. 8d. Horse hire, for carrying her stuff from London to Canysasby, 10s. "For a male," 7s. 2 pair shoes, 19d. Making a gown for maistres Wiburn, and lining for the back, 2s. 2d. To master Locke for ballis, 29s. 4d. Lent unto my Lady in ready money at Greenwich, 53s. 4d. Paid to Reynold, groom of her chamber, 13s. 4d. To Thomas, poticary, 2s. To Baker, for boat hire at divers times, 8d. Boat hire for Geronnyne and Thomas, poticary, when she was sick, 4s. 8d. To Master Brooke, 6s. 8d. Delivered to my Lady at Greenwich, 3 ducats, 13s. 6d. Boat hire between Greenwich and Westminster, 16d. To the clerk for writing indentures, 5s. A loaf of sugar, 15d. To Baker and Sharpe, for lining their coats, 5s. 6½ yds. russet damask, 52s. Total, 48l. 2s. 2d.
Of this sum, received in plate, at Ampthill and London, from Katerin Pratte, 15l. 2s. From my Lady, a collar set with stones, 3l. 16s. 8d. Received upon an obligation of Belknapes, 6l. 13s. [4]d. From Maistres Wiburre at Greenwich, 3l. From my lord of Kent at Greenwich, 4 mks. Received in stuff of my Lady, 7l. 4s.
Pp. 4, mutilated.
25 Jan.
R. O.
On the 24th Jan. a man came to him from the Emperor's court with news that the parliament at Worms was begun, that Don Ferdinando should marry the king of Hungary's daughter, and that the Emperor should soon after return into Spain. He says also that 5,000 or 6,000 Spanish rebels attacked a castle belonging to Fonteseca after he had left Spain, but were repulsed, and many slain by blowing up some powder which had been placed in the ditch. A captain and 14 or 15 others were taken and hanged on the walls. The constable of Castile has taken the Emperor's mother and her daughter out of the hands of the commons at Towrdecelis, and those who were made her councillors by the commons were hanged. He was told for a fact that Gerone in Catalonia, 15 leagues from France, had rebelled against the Emperor, and that the archbishop of Toledo, Chievres' nephew, had died at Worms, and the bishop of Burgos, brother to Fonteseca, should take his place.
Thinks Wolsey may know the certainty of this news better than he does. Would like to be informed if they are true, that he may know whether to believe his informant. Has sent him back again, and has other persons in divers places, but has heard nothing as yet from them. Calais, 25 Jan.
Hol., pp. 3. Add.: To my lord Cardinal's grace.
26 Jan.
R. O.
"Anno xii.
"Saturday, 26 Jan., John ... gentylman, sworn upon a book before my ... taken, that one Thomas Gyldon, of Kirkby, ... about the 20th day of January, in the 11th [year of Hen. VIII.] ... Ryesby, within the said county, behind the high ... [said that the] Cardinal would destroy this realm, a[nd se]tt all the n[obles] in the King's top, and within this two year he the said Ca[rdinal would have] the shamefullest fall that ever had chanced [in] En[gland] ... authority; and fartherly that it had cost his master ... ssy ... for to obtain his favor, and yet he could not get hi[t] ... his master. We shall never have no stroke while he reigneth; verily I would give 100l. of my purse that that time were come. And m[oreover h]e will bring one Wm. Marlyng, his brother, that will swear ay ... his oath that the said Thos. Gyldon said unto him these words or other as ill. All which premises the said Wm. Marling, when [he was ex]amyned, confessed that he heard them and more, and affirmed them to be true. Also the said John Marlyng saith that he shewed the said words to his brother, William Marlyng."
Thos. Gyldon's answer to John Marlyng's bill of complaint.
He says the whole of it is untrue, which he will prove as my lord's council will award, and that he heard "one Flude, which is a brewter called, say that he did see by provese (prophecy) that a great man being a bishop, should ride upon a high horse and should have as great a fall as ever had man, but whether the said Thomas ever spake these words to t[he said] John Marlyng or not, he is not in remembrance."
This bill was examined before Mr. Lovell, Sir Ric. Rokeby, Sir Thomas D[en]ny [and] Mr. Asheton, steward, treasurer, comptroller and surveyor to the Cardinal, and Mr. ... and Mr. Shelley, his councillors.
Pp. 3, mutilated.
30 Jan.
Rym. XIII. 736.
Truce taken at Ridane, 30 Jan. 1520, between Thos. abbot of Kelso, Andrew Ker of Cesford, Adam Ottirburne, for king James, and Thos. lord Dacre for England, from the 1st Jan. last to the 9th April inclusive, for the intent that the king of Scotland may send ambassadors to England. The term to be further enlarged to the 30th June, the said ambassadors "beand sett forethwart" within the realm of England.
30 Jan.
Calig. E. I. 26.
B. M.
[1st leaf lost] "... maistre car sen retourne devers le Roy vostre m[aistre, par] lequel ledict sieur entendra, et vous aussi, les deviz quil a en[vers] le Roy son bon frere que me gardera vous en faire [co]nte par ma lettre," except that he wishes to assure him of Francis' friendship towards Henry. The persons mentioned by Jerningham to be exchanged for the hostages will be at Calais at the end of February. Romorantier, 30 Jan. Signed.
Fr., mutilated, p. 1. Add.: Le [car]dinal d'Yort, legat, &c.
R. O.
Has received his letters dated Greenwich, 30 Dec., asking leave for the mayor and aldermen of London to import from Flanders, by their factor, who is named in the said letter, 80 "gros cens" of corn for the use of their city. Regrets being unable to comply, as the people are in a state of commotion, owing to the dearness of grain. Asks credence for the bishop of Badajoz, the Emperor's ambassador, to whom she is writing also. Malines, _ (fn. 1) Jan. 1520. Signed.
Fr., p. 1. Add. Endd.
Galba, B. VI.
B. M.
To the same effect. Malines, _† day of Jan. 1520. Signed.
Fr., p. 1. Add.: A mons. le cardinal dYorck, primat et legat d'Angleterre.
Calig. B. III.
B. M.
1147. BERWICK.
"Hereafter followeth certain articles of remembrance that I [Ughtred ?] must show unto my lord Cardinal's grace, touching the danger of the town and castle of Berwick."
(1.) Notwithstanding the smallness of the number of soldiers, many have patents to be away. (2.) To ask for the appointing and dismissal of all officers and servants as he is bound for the keeping of the town. (3.) To have letters to the prior of St. Oswald's for the tithes of Bamburgh.
Subjoined is a memorandum of the number of the soldiers and their fees.
Pp. 2.
Desires them to deliver the ratification of the perpetual peace between Henry VII. and James late king of Scotland, and the treaty for reformation of attemptats, with the king of Scots' commission and an indenture of their ambassadors, to the bearer, Mr. Udale, to be brought to the Legate at the More. Signed: Thos. More, under-treasurer.
P. 1. The titles of the documents in Tuke's hand, the rest in More's.
Vit. B. XX.
B. M.
Has well considered his letters in cipher, dated 17 Dec., in which he describes at length the form and manner he has employed in [executing] the charges committed to him, and notices [the an]swer made by Chievres and the Chancellor to his over[ture and the sup]plications and reasons by which he sought to induce them to lay aside their difficulties. Thanks him for his acquittal of the charges, and for giving his opinion, as requested, about the validity of the oath to be made to Henry by the Emperor, which is, that it would be of no force if mention were not made of the Pope's dispensation, the parties being in the second degree of consanguinity. This point was too manifest to be overlooked, but the council considered that to have the oath made dependent on the Pope's arbitrement by the words added by Tunstal might lead hereafter to influence being used with the Pope by the Emperor, the French king, or others, to refuse the dispensation altogether. They therefore thought it would be inexpedient to put them in the oath before they were sure of the Pope. If, however, the words be inserted in the oath, a brief or bull must forthwith be obtained from the Pope, dispensing with the parties, "now as then, and then as now, to contract matrimony, whensoever they should mind and determine so to do, the said impediment notwithstanding; which at this treate" * * *
Draft, in Ruthal's hand, mutilated, p. 1.
Galba, B. VII.
B. M.
On receipt of your first letters, dated Worms, 17 December, describing the manner in which you made overture of the charges committed to you, the answers of Chievres and the Chancellor, and your replies to their objections, we had determined to answer you upon every point; but upon the arrival of your second letters, dated Worms, the 29th, showing that the Emperor was more untoward than ever, we have been compelled to change our purpose, and frame our answer to the purport of your last letters, which comprise all the points in the former. We thank you for your discreet behavior and good service, which we shall remember. We marvel at the sudden change of the Emperor's council, in resolving not to enter further in this alliance till he have leave from the Pope, and unless we consent to treat of all matters at once; viz., of the league defensive with the Pope, the entertainment of the Swiss, the means by which we and the Emperor might recover the lands detained by France, the aid to be given against the Spanish rebels, and a new interview between us two. This is far discrepant from other overtures made to us at Calais, and by their ambassadors in England; for although in your first letters you state that the Pope's dispensation is necessary in making this oath for alliance, the parties being in the second degree of consanguinity, which point we had well foreseen, it might be the ruin of the whole business to have the oath depend upon the Pope's arbitrament, as the Pope might be moved either by the Emperor, the French king or others not to grant the dispensation. The difficulty might be cleared by a bull dispensing with the parties, now as then, and then as now, to contract matrimony whenever they pleased; but we will not consent to any such treaties before the conclusion of the convention for the alliance. Therefore, in the articles sent by you, which we now return with sundry additions, there should be inserted an express provision, binding us and the Emperor not to conclude any defensive league with the Pope, unless such dispensation be first granted under lead; which shall be obtained in the most secret manner. The Pope will make no difficulty, or he will lose the advantage of the league. For more surety, a bond must be made between us and the Emperor, by way of stipulation, to my lord Cardinal, in the form contained in a memorial in Latin, now sent to you, with a proxy to enable you to stipulate in the Cardinal's name.
We wonder they refuse things so much to their advantage; for, considering the amity between us and France, and our daughter honorably bestowed there, and that we are at peace with all Christian princes, what need we care for further alliance with the Pope and Emperor than we have already ? Why should we meddle with the Swiss, or make war against France, or aid the Emperor against rebels, except for the affection we bear him? We do not need aid of the Emperor or any other; and if they make difficulties, we are not minded to bestow favors on those that will not receive them. We only require this promise, that we may be the better inclined to the Emperor's interests. Without it, we have no occasion specially to tender his weal. It will not prevent the Emperor from marrying any person of lawful age, before our daughter comes to mature years; as he will only be bound to take her if he be then at liberty. Our daughter will be of age before the French king's, and will be a more advantageous match than the other, by possibility of succession. This alliance should be concluded before other particular conventions; for if we delayed it till after the league with the Pope, and the convention for stricter amity with the Emperor, they might demand unreasonable things of us, which would lead us into war and intolerable charges, bring us into suspicion with the other confederates, and help them to play their game, leaving us alone; but having the bond of alliance, we shall be encouraged frankly to declare ourselves, and do all we can in behalf of our said brother.
We are willing that the dote and dower be appointed in the treaty; and it is to be considered that she is now our sole heir, and may succeed to the crown; so that we ought rather to receive from the Emperor as large a sum as we should give with her if she were not our heir; but if we have an heir male hereafter, we are willing to give with her as great a dote as was assigned to our sister Mary, which did not exceed 50,000l.; provided the money due to us by the Emperor for loans and otherwise be counted part of the dote. If they demand as great a dote as we promised to give with her for her marriage in France, you may say that as we should not have disbursed any money for that dote, which is assigned upon the redemption of Tournay, it would not be reasonable to demand so large a sum; but if they insist upon it, we are content to give the same dote promised to the Dauphin. As to the jointure to be given her by the Emperor, considering the greatness of his possessions, it ought not to be less than the yearly value 20,000 mks. If they say that is larger than the dower, you may reply that the French king has bound himself by a treaty apart to pay to us during our life, and after our decease to the Princess and the heirs of her body, a larger pension than was ever paid to any of our predecessors, which we have taken in place of her dower. In the assignation of the jointure, the same provisions should be made as in the French treaty; that it may be redemanded if she survive the Emperor, &c.
As they think your commission too general, we send you a special and full one to conclude this alliance and matrimony. Their objections to the minute of the bond sent by you for the acceptance of our daughter are remedied by the articles which you sent, with some additions made by us. This treaty must be passed, sealed, sworn and interchangeably delivered before you proceed to any other conventions, and must not be stopped for lack of the Pope's dispensation. We send you for the present no particular instructions about the defensive league with the Pope, what we shall do for the entertainment of the Swiss, the assistance we shall give to suppress the rebellion in Spain, and the new interview to be had between us and the Emperor on his passage into Spain. You are to try their minds on these subjects, what they will demand; and on receipt of your letters you shall have full answer. But, to be plain with you, it would be great folly in this young prince, not being more surely settled in his dominions, and so ill provided with treasure and good councillors, the Pope also being so brittle and variable, to be led into wars for the sake of one or other, for his ministers' private advantage. It is, therefore, not advisable in the league to enter into stricter bonds with the Pope than at present, nor to bear any charge for the Swiss, nor to send any embassy to alienate them from France, nor to give any assistance against the rebels of Spain; seeing that the Emperor may be sufficiently reimbursed by confiscating the lands and goods of the rebels. As for the interview, though it will be expensive to us and our nobles, yet if all else is well passed we shall not object to it.
We have always told the ambassadors of the Emperor, as they have themselves owned in presence of our council, that we would not enter upon any of these particulars until the bonds of alliance were fully concluded. As to the instructions to you for a treaty for recovering the things detained from us and the Emperor by the French king, we are willing that in the treaty of alliance bonds be devised for that purpose; and that in case our daughter shall be really married to the Emperor, we be both bound to invade France, and not desist till by mutual consent we have recovered our rights, hoping that by that time both we and the Emperor shall be better able to make the attempt. These matters, however, had better be treated by commissioners before our daughter comes of age, or by ourselves, at the interview. The surmises made about words spoken to hinder the sending of the Pope's commission, or that we did not wish the state of the Emperor to be more exalted, are without foundation. We desire nothing so much as to keep the matter secret; and but few of our privy council have any knowledge of it. If we had meant to hinder the sending of the Pope's commission, we would not have sent our own; and if the Emperor's own councillors do not demean themselves better than hitherto, we have done more than they for his exaltation. Both at Canterbury and Calais, when communication was had of this matter, the Emperor was willing then to have concluded the alliance, without any dispensation from the Pope; and we are led to suspect that they are now seeking a delay till they have learned from the ambassador of France, now sent, what offer shall be made on the part of Francis. As we understand that the Emperor lately blamed Chievres and the Chancellor for neglecting the affairs of England, and charged them that they should write nothing to England without his express knowledge, if you see no better towardness in them than hitherto, repair to the Emperor himself, and show him our mind, nothing his answers, and how he seems disposed; for we doubt not, when he has weighed the nature of this bond, and the advantages of the match, he will make no further difficulty. Lastly, if the Emperor's council be intractable, you shall tell the Emperor secretly, and as of yourself, that for the old amity between England, Spain and Burgundy, there is no prince whom you regard more, except ourselves; and are induced for his own sake to tell him what is likely to happen if this alliance do not take effect. If the match go on between Mary and the Dauphin, and he become king of France, and, in her right, king of England, the navies of England and France will shut him out of the seas. If he make his abode in Spain, the Low Countries will be in danger; and the French king, having these two realms and the duchy of Milan, might do him great mischief in Naples, and soon attain the monarchy of all Christendom. Whereas, by this alliance the Emperor might get that power to himself, and put France in such perplexity as to be no longer able to trouble him; so that he should rather labour himself to break this marriage with France, than we to make any overture for the same. When you have said this to the Emperor you should notify this to Chievres and the Chancellor, and such other of the council as you think good, "aggrieving the dangers thereof accordingly, which be manifest, proceeding of very truth, without any contriving or feigning" * * *
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Jan./GRANTS. 1151. GRANTS in JANUARY 1521.
2. Ralph Porrett, stockfishmonger of London. Protection; going in the retinue of lord Berners, deputy of Calais. Del. Westm., 2 Jan. 12 Hen. VIII.—S.B.
2. Ralph Thomson. To be comptroller of the customs and subsidies in the port of Kyngeston-on-Hull, during pleasure. Westm., 2 Jan.—Pat. 12 Hen. VIII. p. 1, m. 4.
8. John Parkyns, jun., of London, son of John Parkyns, of Guldeford. Pardon. Del. Westm., 8 Jan. 12 Hen. VIII.—S.B. Pat. p. 2, m. 21.
9. Richard Tandy, clk. Presentation to the church of Shrawley, Worc. dioc., vice Wm. Blakden, clk., resigned. Westm., 9 Jan.—Pat. 12 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 14.
15. Sir John Lisle, Rob. Cosen, and John Skewys. Grant of the presentation to the next vacant canonry in the collegiate church of St. Mary and St. George in Wyndesore Castle. Greenwich, 9 Dec. 12 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 15 Jan.—P.S. Pat. p. 2, m. 28.
19. Th. Laton, of Sexo, York. Exemption from serving on juries, &c. Greenwich, 24 Dec. 12 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 19 Jan.—P.S. Pat. p. 2, m. 18.
20. Ric. Parker, groom in the office of the Butlery, and Ralph Cotton. Grant, in survivorship, of a tenement in the parish of St. Margaret Patent, London, in the King's gift by the death of Th. Oram and Geo. Vanhorn, who held it by grant of Hen. VII. Del. Westm., 20 Jan. 12 Hen. VIII.—S.B. Pat. p. 1, m. 10.
20. Ph. Connar, als. Conway, of London, brewer. Protection; going in the retinue of lord Berners, deputy of Calais. Eltham, 7 Jan. 12 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 20 Jan.—P.S.
21. John Apparis, the King's tailor, native of France. Denization. Westm., 21 Jan.—Pat. 12 Hen. VIII. p. 1, m. 18.
22. John Bekke, of the parish of St. Nicholas, Bristol, fishmonger. Protection; going in the retinue of lord Berneys, deputy of Calais. Del. Westm., 22 Jan. 12 Hen. VIII.—S.B.
23. Th. Jacson, of Sudbery, Suff., "corser." Pardon for all counterfeits and clippings of money. Del. Westm., 23 Jan. 12 Hen. VIII.—S.B. Pat. p. 2, m. 27.
23. Th. Westfeld, of Fyllnygham, Linc. Licence to alienate possessions in Glentworth, Linc., to Sir Rob. Dymmok. Westm., 23 Jan.—Pat. 12 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 6.
23. Sir Wm. Tyler. To be keeper of the New Park of Istelworth, alias the New Park of Richmond, Midd., with 3d. a day out of the issues of the manors of Shene alias Richmond, Petershame and Hamme, Surrey. Del. Westm., 23 Jan. 12 Hen. VIII.—S.B.
23. James Vavasour, kinsman and one of the heirs of Wm. Langdale, viz., son of Matilda, daughter of William. Livery of lands in Waltham and Hatclyff, Linc. Greenwich, 3 Dec. 12 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 23 Jan.—P.S. Pat. p. 2, m. 30.
23. John Hercy and Eliz. his wife, and Walter Moyle and Isabella his wife. Livery of lands in cos. Staff., Warw. and Derby; the said Elizabeth and Isabella being ds. and hs. of John, s. of Sir Humph. Stanley. Greenwich, 6 Dec. 12 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 23 Jan.—P.S.
25. John Jonys, of Exeter, capper. Pardon for killing Rob. Wygars, of Conwyk, "brasyer," in self-defence. Westm., 25 Jan.—Pat. 12 Hen. VIII. p. 1, m. 6.
25. Recognizance cancelled. Sir Ric. Woderove, of Wolbeley, Ric. Beamount, of Whitley, Ric. Lasty, of Halifax, and Wm. Hynchelyff, of Peniston, York, made 30 Nov. 22 Hen. VII. to Sir Th. Lovell, Sir Ric. Emson, Sir John Husee, Edm. Dudley and Th. Lucas. Greenwich, 25 Jan. 12 Hen. VIII.—S.B.
26. Th. Floure, chaplain and vicar choral of Lincoln cathedral. Presentation to the chantry of one chaplain vicar in the choir of the said cathedral at the altar of St. John the Baptist, with a salary of 6 marks from the dean and chapter, and 40s. from the farm of the city of Lincoln, vacant by the cession of Th. Plankney. Westm., 26 Jan.—Pat. 12 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 14.
26. Romeo Chabarte. Licence to import 300 tuns of Gascou wine or Toulouse woad, computing 8 bales of woad as one tun. Del. Westm., 26 Jan. 12 Hen. VIII.—S.B.
28. Sir John Normanvile. Commission to Thomas abbot of Selby, Wm. Elson, Ralph Rokesby and Thos. Beverley, to make inquisition p. m. in co. York, with respect to the lands and heir of Sir John Normanvile. Westm., 28 Jan.—Pat. 12 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 13d.
28. Sir Giles Alyngton, late sheriff of co. Cambridge. Pardon for the escape of prisoners from Cambridge castle, especially of John Gower, convicted of a felony at Crawden, Camb. Greenwich, 15 Jan. 12 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 28 Jan.—P.S. Pat. p. 1, m. 19.
28. Th. Marbury, haberdasher, and Edm. Bonethen, citizens of London. Licence to import 150 gross of caps and hats, notwithstanding the statute. Greenwich, 27 Dec. 12 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 28 Jan.—P.S.
28. John Gryffyn, of Ippiswich, Suff., "sherman" alias "clothman." Protection; going in the retinue of lord Berners, deputy of Calais. Greenwich, 11 Jan. 12 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 28 Jan.—P.S.
30. Matthew ap Thomas. Lease of the toll of the market on Tuesday, and of the three fairs in the feasts of SS. Edward and Ciricus, in the new town of Kiddewen, in Kerrye, parcel of the earldom of March; for 21 years, at the annual rent of 24s. Del. Westm., 30 Jan. 12 Hen. VIII.—S.B. Pat. p. 1, m. 19.
30. Sir Ric. Weston. Lease of lands belonging to the manor of Hanworth, Midd., for 21 years, at the annual rent of 6l. 15s. 6d., and 12d. of increase. Del. Westm., 30 Jan. 12 Hen. VIII.—S.B. Pat. p. 2, m. 14.


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