Henry VIII: January 1527, 16-31

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Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 4, 1524-1530. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1875.

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January 1527

16 Jan.
Cal. D. X. 130. B. M.
2805. [RUSSELL to WOLSEY.]
* * * called Bastyan Salvaige ... his master's letters, whereby he per ... receive of him the said sum of money ... [He told] me that he looked hourly for a kinsman [of his] master's, who should come hither with the s[aid sum]; but as yet he is not come, wherefore ... here is for the same, and have caused a post [to be sent to] him to hast him hither therewith. I have b[een with the] French king, and presented him the King's letters," and told him the King's charge; with which he is well contented, and he has sent one of his gentlemen to the Pope with a similar charge. Has declared his charge to my Lady, who also likes it. She spoke of many things, praising the good order and justice executed by Wolsey in England, which causes the realm to prosper daily. "S[he said that] ye shall rule and have as great auct[ority in the realm of] France as ye have in England, and that [there shall be] nothing done here of importance bu[t your Grace shall be] made privy to it, and that your a[dvice in all things] shall be had in the same. T ... showed me that within * * * ... les concerning your ... me, which done I shall send them ... shortly as I surely and conveniently m[ay. I have] ben with Master Dean of Wells, who, thanky[d be God,] is in good health, and doth follow and profit [by his studies] very well." Every one praises him, for his own deserts and for Wolsey's [sake]. He is in the face of the world, and many learned and worshipful men resort unto him, besides the English. Thinks it were well he had to m ... a worshipful estate, which, Russell thinks, would encourage him better to apply himself. Has told Dr. Marshall to write to Wolsey about his expences. Paris, 16 Jan.
Pp. 2, mutilated.
Cal. D. x. 417.
B. M.
* * * ... day and tomorrow ... with the same with God's grac[e] ... so long hath done harm bu ... [di]volgid abroad what charge we ... that we have lost much time. Th ... his mother and other honorable men's advi[ce] ... that from hence we shall take our w[ay] ... to pass Mount Synnys and s ... from hence to Savone where we [shall] ... they say is sure enough ... galleys shall meet with ... be a great deal longer ... and shall before my lord of Bath ... with the Popes and Venetians imb[assadors] ... that it is requisite for to ha[ve] ... sure passage, and that this ma[y] ... ith ... and their opinion is to [take] the way above rehearsed. Sith my last letters to your Grace I have seen and visited Master Dean [of] Wellys, again, who lieth in another man's [house], which is very costly and very uncommodious; wher[efore] under your Grace's correction my thinketh it were [very] well done if it pleased your Grace to be so good u[nto] him that he might have a house of his own, t[hough] it were more chargeable, it should be more hono[rable] for your Grace, for he is taken here as your kins[man], and men doth [honor] him for your sake; wheref[ore it] were meet he [should] live somewhat according. [I have] also spoken w ... ur who now sends [unto your Grace] the account of [their] expenses sith their c[oming]." At P[a]rr[is].
Mutilated, and illegible in some parts.
16 Jan.
R. O.
Asks him to excuse Thos. Empson's appearance on subpœna till three or four days after Candlemas.
The French queen and himself are staying at his house, and it will be inconvenient to them if he should go sooner, and also he is in bad health. Eston, 16 Jan. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: To my lord Cardinal's grace.
16 Jan.
R. O.
Copy of a deed of Walter Flecher, sen., of Bery, in the parish of Elyng, Hants, dated 20 March 18 Hen. VII., granting lands called Chamberlens, in Elyng, Dibden, Falley, and in the Isle of Wight, to Will. Warham, bp. of London, Rob. Sherborne, dean of St. Paul's, Henry Hawkens, vicar of Elyng, and Will. Wolff, to the use of said Walter and Marg. his wife, and of his son Walter, and the heirs of his body, &c.
P. 1.
Memorandum endorsed, that Jo. Kebyll delivered the above and other evidences to Rob. Benger, 16 Jan. 18 Hen. VIII.
18 Jan.
Vit. B. IX. 21. B. M.
According to Wolsey's order, wrote to the Nuncio in France to press the French king to complete the marriage with the Princess.
The Nuncio's answer, dated Pussy, 9 Jan., is as follows:
Has spoken several times to the King about the marriage, and always found him inclined thereto. Has shown him that the Pope will highly approve of it, as conducing to the safety of himself and Italy; and that it should not be delayed, as no better way could be found for the recovery of his children and the repression of the Emperor. The French king says he considers it concluded, and will send a chamberlain for the Princess's portrait, and shortly the bp. of Tarbes and the president of Toulouse will go thither as ambassadors. Will tell Wolsey the Italian news tomorrow, as the French and Imperial ambassadors will occupy him all day.
The bp. of Pola, the legate at Venice, writes on Dec. 16 that the bp. of Segni had come as ambassador from the Waywode, to inform the Signory of his election to the kingdom of Hungary by five bishops on St. Martin's day, to the great grief of the Archduke, who it is thought will go to war about it. "Ex domo," 18 Jan. Signed.
Lat., pp. 2.
18 Jan.
Otho, C. IX. 47. B. M.
Thanks him for his kind letters, which he received at Marseilles, "de permutatio[ne] ... scripserat, cum præceptoria nostra Sancfordiæ, quam pro dote magnificentissimi collegii sua libera[litate] ... et commodum extructi ob commoditatem deputare proponit ac desiderat per stabilimenta nostra mi ... usque ad proximas comicias seu ordinis nostri generale capitulum quod propediem mihi celebrandum erat, ... rem omnem operam meam." Lest Wolsey should wonder that he has not yet done the business, writes to tell him that he is detained here at Viterbo, where the convent resides, on account of the war. When he had prepared the ships of the Order for sailing, was obliged to go in them from Villafranca to ... lest they should be intercepted by the fleets of the Emperor or the French king. When an opportunity offered, ordered the ships, well manned and armed, to sail towards the East, and to send his things on shore secretly, that they might be found more convenient, "ad facinus illud ingrediendum." Has signified this to Wolsey before, by Denteville. The Pope also is making every endeavor in the same matter. "Faxit Deus Optimus Maximus ut religiosus quidam noster quem illinc rediturum ind ... mutatum, sed rem conclusam referat; nihil siquidem audendum nobis contra spurc[itiam] ... prætermittemus, nulla vitæ ac periculorum habita ratione." Asks for Wolsey's and the King's support, and their recommendations to other princes, that the Order may be established in some safe place or in their old home. Will provide that power is given to the prior ... or another knight of the Order to exchange the preceptory of Sancford, as Wolsey wishes. [Viterbo], 18 Jan. 1527. Signed.
Lat., mutilated, pp. 2. Add. Endd.
20 Jan.
R. O.
Certificate of John Skraggis, John Kyngysmyll, Will. Chamber and John Horwood, commissioners, that they have assessed the inhabitants of Southwark chargeable for the fourth payment, of whom lists (fn. 1) are given, viz., in the parish of St. Olave, 7 names, amount of tax varying from 50s. to 12l.; in the parish of Mary Magdalen, Overey, 6 names, amounts from 50s.; in the parish of St. Margaret, 3 names, (2 at 60s. and 1 at 50s.); in the parish of St. George, 1 name, 60s. Total of tax, 68l. 7s. Thos. Kendall, Walter Carter and Rob. Party appointed sub-collectors, and John Almar and Rob. Sympson, high collectors. 18 Jan. 18 Hen. VIII.
19 Jan.
Vesp. C. IV. 1. B. M.
Arrived at Valladolid on the 15th. There will be an assembly of the States, both lay and clerical, on the 25th, for a subsidy against the Turks. Communicated with Lee, and, with the advice of the Chancellor, proposed to visit the Emperor if he should remain away for any length of time. No news from Italy. Has used all his endeavors to find out if there is any secret practice between the Emperor and the French king. Can discover nothing. If there be anything it is likely to go through Madame Eleanora. Has nothing at present to write about. Thinks that they waste the time because the Emperor expects intelligence from Italy, or some result from the intrigues of Madame Eleanora. The chief negociators are the Chancellor, the bishop of Osma, the Emperor's confessor, and don John Emanuel, formerly ambassador to Leo X. It is supposed the Emperor will gain a large sum of money from the Cortes. Medina del Campo, 19 Jan. 1527.
Hol., Lat., pp. 2. The cipher deciphered by Vannes.
20 Jan.
Vesp. C. IV. 3. B. M.
2813. LEE to WOLSEY.
The bishop of Worcester arrived here on the 15th. On perusing their instructions, thought it would be better to wait for the Emperor's coming to Valladolid, where the Chancellor and Council are. Is hourly expecting arrangement for his lodgings, which are difficult to obtain. Is much abashed to hear that Worcester can give him no news of Ichingham. He had been told that an Englishman was stopped, and was not allowed to pass unless he promised to go by the court of France. Hopes, however, that Wolsey understands the Emperor's intention, as he hears that don Ynygo is in England. Sent letters by Bilboa on the 12 Dec. Has not been able to write before on account of his journey from Granada. Before he left I had a secret interview at the Friars Observants with one who had been ambassador in Portugal for the Emperor, who told me, "that where now the Emperor had trade into the Indies of the spicery, and should now have great profit of the said spicery, he was determined to make a pragmatic that none his subjects should buy any spices of the king of Portugal;"—that the king of Portugal had wished to treat for the purchase of the spicery, but had found the Emperor difficile and untoward. As it is a thing of so much honor and profit, he asked me whether I thought the King would have it. He doubted not to find means to that end. He begged me to write to England upon the point. Lee declined unless he had some commission from the Emperor. He desired it might be kept secret. I told him the King could not enter on such a matter without communication with his council, that he might be induced to trust it in the first place to none but Wolsey. Lee asked him the particulars of the extent, revenues, and costs of these possessions, and what the king of Portugal had offered. He said 2,000,000. "I said he offered very much for a thing yet being in hope and little in hand, and that there of rayson the King oweth to give more therefor than any man else; for that he should perceive most profit thereof, having his own spicery adjoining thereby." I said I wondered that the Emperor would make a pragmatic to annoy Portugal, whose sister he had married. He said the king of Portugal bore him no great favor. He came to my lodgings three days after, when I told him that the King would not likely meddle with this matter, and create variance between princes. I demanded of him what answer the Emperor made. He said he would speak with him tomorrow, but he thinks he spoke of it to La Chault, who "laid to his charge that he would undo the king of Portugal;" and thus produced, he thinks, an alteration of the Emperor's intentions. Medina del Campo. 20 Jan.
Hol., pp. 6. Add.: To my lord Legate's grace. Endd.
Vit. C. VII.
324. B. M. Hakluyt, I. 214.
1. Thorne to Lee.
"The book made by the right worshipful Mr. Robert Thorne in the year 1527, in Sivil, to Dr. Ley, lord ambassador for king Henry VIII. to Charles the Emperor, being an information of the parts of the world discovered by him and the king of Portugal, and also of the way to the Moluccas by the North." (fn. 2)
Mutilated copy of the time of queen Elizabeth, with the following title prefixed: "... ayn whole letter to [Dr. Lee, king Henry] the Eight his ambassador ligier in S[pain], and a part of another to the said King [his] majesty, written ao 1527 by Mr. Robe[rt] Thorn, wherein is contained matter very needful to be considered of, as well for discovery to be made as for the recovery and enjoying of our right and interest in some lands already by Englishmen discovered, where also the original history of the parting of the whole world between the king of Spain and the king of Portugal is touched."
Vit. C. VII.
337. B. M. Hakluyt, I. 212.
2. Robert Thorne to Henry VIII.
Offering to discover for him new lands in the North with the aid of a small number of ships.
R. O. Copy; mutilated.
3. Robert Thorne to Lord Lisle.
Has delivered to his servant Geo. Shaw certain pieces of black velvet at 24s., and satin at 8s. the yard. Thanks him for remembering the "book of Hampton." Begs, if it be not sent, Lisle will write for it again, and send it him.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: To, &c. my lord Lyle, in Suberton.
R. O. 4. Robert Thorne to Lord Lisle.
Requested his Lordship lately to obtain of Whytoff, of Hampton, the writings by which the King released to them part of their fee-farm, and made them free of butlerage. Wishes only a copy of their supplication to the King, with their arguments in its favor, and of the grant itself.
Hol., p. 1. Add.
R. O. 5. Thorne's Goods.
"The whole inventory of the goods of my brother Robert Thorne, whose soul Jesu pardon, as by the inventory presented by the executor may appear," 16,935l. Whereof, abate for the legacies mentioned in the testament, 9,523l.; debts owing to the testator, 1,899l.; for the funerals in London, 94l.; "for a year in the accompt Malvesys, less than it is declared in the inventory," 412l.; "for that Roger Barlowe is debtor in the inventory, which proceeds of the alum and soap that I am charged with, so that one thing may not be charged twice," 401l.; certain funerals paid in Bristowe, and cost of a tomb, 132l.; freight and costs of 54 tons oil, 80l.; retained by the executor for his labor in selling merchandise, 66l. 13s. 4d.; costs allowed the executor by the umpire, 9l. 19s.; meat for a mule, four months, 6l. 13s. 4d.; Katherine Woseley's meat and drink, 6l.; 36l. charged by the executors to my account, done in deeds of charity, beside the legacies: total, 12,666l. 5s. 8d.; residue, 4,268l. 14s. 4d._Doubtful debts in Spain, left by the testator with Wm. Ballard to recover and deliver to Carlo Catannyo, Jenovys, 1,113l. 14s.; a desperate debt in Flanders, 11l.; another, for hemp in Sevyll, 81l.; a venture to Medina, 67l. 8s.; a debt of adventure to Ancona, 94l. 16s.; a debt of Thos. Tyson, 12l. 5s.; debts for pearls in Venice, 176l. 18s.; desperate debts for account of company that was between my brother and me, 4,091l.; doubtful debts in England, 300l.; debts in Spain for clothes sent in Spain, 181l.; a house and slaves in Sevyle, 94l.: total, 2,623l.
P. 1. Endd.: "The hole inventory of Robt. Thornes goodes disceased."
R. O. 2815. PIRACY.
i. Commission to Sir John Arundell, John Arundell Treres, Jas. Erysy and Rob. Vyvean, to inquire touching the robbery of a ship belonging to John king of Portugal, which was wrecked upon the coast of Cornwall in Jan. 18 Hen. VIII. Dated "at our manor _ (fn. 3) the day of _*."
ii. Petition of Francis Person, the king of Portugal's factor, stating that the wreck occurred on Saturday, 20 Jan. 1526, (fn. 4) near Gon Walbay, in the hundred of Correar, Cornwall. The ship had merchandise to the value of 16,000l. Most of the people in her were saved, and with the aid of the inhabitants recovered goods to the value of 1,000 ducats the same afternoon; but in the evening they were attacked by John Wylliam, miller, servant to Will. Godolphin, and two servants of John Melenton, captain of the Mount, who robbed them in their masters' names. Next day, being urged to sell the ship's goods, the Portuguese replied that they belonged entirely to the king of Portugal. When they complained of the robbery before certain justices of the peace they were told they could have no redress, as it was the custom of the country. At last the house in which they took refuge being broken into, and themselves put in great danger, Dego de Oliver was induced to sell the goods for fear of worse consequences; after which he was treated as a prisoner by the purchasers, Thos. Sent Albyn, Will. Godolphen and others, who carried him behind them on their horses, and rode about the country with him. On one occasion they made him break in upon his former comrades, and help to rob them of all they had, except their apparel.
Pp. 3.
R. O. 2. Will. Carvanell to Sir Will. Godolghan. (fn. 5)
Today have arrived, and now ride in the haven, four Spaniards and Portyngals. Two more have been seen at sea. Sir William knows what power they have to arrest men according to their commission. The Spaniards will more likely take two for one "of poor fishermen." Wishes the King knew what a goodly haven they have, and how ill provided. Encloses a copy of the commission to the officers. The ships came all out of Flanders, they say. Penryn, Friday.
Sent a copy of his patent to Exeter. Knows not if the judge has seen it.
Hol., p. 1. Add.
22 Jan.
R. O.
Was informed this evening, before the gates were shut, that the archbishop of St. Severin was lodged at the George without the Gate. Went to salute him. Found he had been sent from the Emperor to the French king, and was on his way thence to England. As his horses cannot be shipped till tomorrow, it will be Thursday before he can leave. Will send Calais pursuivant to attend him. Begs money, as the garrison were never in greater need. Calais, 22 Jan. 1526.
Hol., p. 1. Add.
23 Jan.
P. S. Rym. XIV. 192.
2817. For SIR THOS. MORE, Chancellor of the duchy of Lancaster.
Custody of the person and property of John Moreton, an idiot. Greenwich, 20 Jan. 18 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 23 Jan.
Pat. 18 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 26.
24 Jan.
Vit. B. IX. 19. B. M.
2818. GUICCIARDINI to _.
My last letters were of the 12th. The Germans are on the other side the Trebia. If they advance towards Tuscany, the Doge has promised to send us assistance. The Viceroy has moved towards Rome. The duke of Ferrara has capitulated with the Imperialists. Letters of his agents have been intercepted, showing that they are little satisfied with the Viceroy and don Hugo, to whose arrogance they have yielded through constraint. Is anxious for aid from England and France, for then all things would go well. Other news of no moment.
Lat., pp. 2. Headed: Exempla literarum M. Guicciardini locumtenentis generalis S. D. N. datarum Parmæ die xxiiii. Jan. et retentarum usque ad diem xx ... nuncium in Gallia.
24 Jan.
Vit. B. IX. 18. B. M.
2819. _ to _.
Knows well the Pope's great anxiety for accommodation with the Emperor, who, professing that he desired nothing but peace, does nothing but prepare for war; otherwise the Viceroy would not have increased his demands, which cannot be granted. I told you of his last demand of 200,000 ducats for sending home the Germans. The Pope agreed, if he had time; and he then demanded 200,000 besides, and the restoration of the Colonnese. The Pope would have consented on certain conditions, but refuses to restore the cardinalate to Pompey, as it would be sacrilegious. These are the only points in dispute. The Viceroy has given no answer as yet; and, without waiting for the expiration of the truce made with don Hugo and the Pope on the 20th, has proceeded, on no offence, with his army to attack the States of the Church and laid siege to Frosinone. The besiegers are in great danger, but Renzo and Vitelli have resolved to succor them. The Pope does what he can to hold his position until he sees what help he can get from England. He has sold his property, and alienated what he could, for this purpose. All would be well if aid came from France.
The Emperor makes every effort (fn. 6) and has sent a commission [to the Viceroy] for peace with the Pope; and if he intended to observe half his proposals we should be happy. The Pope understands Wolsey's efforts for the preservation of the Faith and defence of England from the Lutheran heresy. The detention of his proctor (illius procuratoris) was agreeable to him. Campeggio says that he has heard Wolsey is not satisfied with him; at which he is much grieved. He has given no cause for it. You are to do your best to remove this scruple from Wolsey's mind, and you may use my testimony to that effect.
Lat., pp. 4. Headed: Roma, xxiiii. Januar.
27 Jan.
R. O.
2820. ITALY.
News from Lombardy, from D. Guicciardini, 27 Jan., Parma.
Bourbon and the other captains used all diligence to get out of Milan when the Germans crossed the Po, but could not persuade the Spanish foot, who demanded many months' pay (multa stipendia). At last they agreed for two months' pay for which they increased the exactions on Milan 14,000 ducats, and, this being insufficient, added 7,000 more. Nine companies (acies) of the best of the Spaniards remained at Milan to be paid; but he thinks the exaction was carried on till they were paid, and, that being done, they also will march out, as the others have done. The men-at-arms at Milan were thought to number 600. 300 have already been paid out of the money extorted from the city, and have left. To the other 300, who are ill equipped, they meant only to give one pay. In the duchy of Milan and Carpi are only 35 standards of Spanish foot, of which 25 have been at Milan all the summer. The latter are supposed to number 4,000. There are probably 4,000 German foot between Milan and Pavia, who require to be paid every 15 days, at the rate of 19,500 gold crowns a month. These payments have consumed all the money Bourbon brought with him, and all that he was able to extort.
The troops left the luxuries of Milan with regret. The extortions they had practised were worth more than three months' pay. They had grown effeminate, and used to wash their feet with rosewater. Antonio de Leva is to remain in the duchy, not being well. It is supposed they mean to attack Bologna along with the count of Cajazzo, and that the duke of Ferrara will join them with guns and stores, perhaps help them with money. Believes the Spaniards will act with the Germans, though they are said not to like each other. All authority is vested in Bourbon, who has left Antonio as his lieutenant. The marquis de Guasto went away unwell. Morone has been pardoned his life for 20,000 gold crowns (aurei), and left his eldest son in the castle of Milan as a hostage. Money could not be forwarded to the troops from Spain, as no merchants could be found to transmit it. It does not seem possible to pay the new Germans, about 12,000 in number. Hears that money was asked from the duke of Savoy and the marchioness of Montferrat. There are 300 families in Milan, each of which paid 1,000 gold crowns for the contribution, besides exactions.
The above news was reported by Andrea Carnesecca, who left Milan on the 18th Jan.
Bourbon is still at Pavia. If the new Germans advance without money, or with the single aureus promised to each of them, it will be the greatest miracle of the Emperor's prosperity. The duke of Urbino has written from Mantua for us to meet him tomorrow at Casale Major.
Lat., pp. 4. Endd.
28 Jan.
R. O. St. P. VI. 561.
Since my last from Lyons I arrived at Chambery, and found the duke of Savoy, who sent me with a herald, and a messenger with a commission to all his towns to aid me as they would himself. I was told by a gentleman of Savoy that unless I made haste I should be stopped by the Imperialists; so I pushed on to Savona, where I arrived on the 28th, and found it in great alarm. The garrison there had made a sortie, and after being assaulted had come to an arrangement with the Imperialists. I have spoken with count Petre de Navarre, the admiral, for a passage to Rome. He desires me to wait three days, as the galleys have gone to conduct thither De Vaudemont. He tells me that the Pope has levied 10,000 men, and sent them towards Naples. If the Emperor's soldiers are not better paid it is thought they will return. Savone, 28 Jan. Signed.
Mutilated. Add.: [To my lor]de [Legate's gr]ace. Endd.
28 Jan.
R. O.
Thanks Wolsey for the benevolence expressed in his letters sent by Russell (Rossellus), the King's chamberlain, by which he is bound to devote everything to his service. Extols his condescension in writing to him at this time, when he is engrossed with the affairs of the whole world, and seeking aid for the Holy See. Poissi, 28 Jan. 1527. Signed.
Lat., p. 1. Add. Sealed.
29 Jan.
Nero, B. II. 101. B. M.
2823. CHRISTOPHER DE SCHYDLOVYECZ, Palatine and Captain of Cracow, and Chancellor of the King of Poland, to [WOLSEY].
Thanks him in the King's name for the good will he expressed to Felix ab Allen, the King's chamberlain, who has just returned. Offers his services to Wolsey, and desires his commendations to the King. Sends copies of letters containing news from Hungary since the death of king Lewis. The ambassadors of the Emperor and Ferdinand have returned from Muscovy, after making a peace for six years between the king of Poland and the duke of Muscovy. The duke's ambassadors with 700 horse, and the Apostolic ambassador, follow them. D. Mraxii is here as ambassador from Ferdinand, who will be crowned before Lent, and desires Schydlovyecz or another to be present. The king of Hungary is at Gran. Unless the dispute between him and Ferdinand is settled, war must ensue; by which the enemies of Christianity will profit. Cracow, 29 Jan. 1527. Signed.
Lat., pp. 2.
30 Jan.
Nero, B. II. 102. B. M.
Has received the King's letter of thanks for his present of falcons, dated Dec. 30, at Eltham (apud Antellis). Expresses his gratitude for the King's writing to him, and promises to receive kindly his servants, and to obtain the best birds for them. Has written about Hungary to Wolsey. Cracow, 30 Jan. 1527. Signed.
Lat., p. 1.
30 Jan.
R. O.
Has received his letters by the bishop of Worcester. Understands by him and Dr. Lee Wolsey's holy inclination for universal peace, and good will towards himself. Wolsey will have learned how entirely the Emperor trusts him by the despatch he lately sent by sea to don Ynigo de Mandoça. Will be perfectly frank with Worcester. Valladolid, "ce penultime de Janvier."
Added in his own hand: "Monsr. le Cardynal, j'ay ma parfaite fiance en vous, et vous poves estre sehur que tousjours me trouveres votre bon amy, CHARLES."
Fr., p. 1. Add. and endd. Sealed.
30 Jan.
Lettere di Principi, II. 49.
2826. BALDASSAR CASTIGLIONE, [Nuncio in Spain,] to GAMBARA.
The auditor of the Chamber (Ghinucci) has delivered your letters to me.
I need say nothing about the important negotiation for peace which is being conducted here, because the English ambassadors are writing diffusely, and you will learn the contents of their letters. The Pope has sent ample powers to conclude the peace. He would be much gratified if the King and the Cardinal would negotiate it. Valladolid, 30 Jan. 1527.
31 Jan.
Vit. B. IX. 22. B. M.
2827. ITALY.
Cæsar Fieramosca has arrived, and demanded in the name of the Viceroy [150,000 ducats], Parma, Piacenza, and Civita Vecchia as pledges, the restoration of the Colonnese, and 300 men-at-arms, 400 light-armed horse, and 4,000 foot, as aid for the Emperor in Italy, and for Bourbon to be duke of Milan. The Pope read these terms in the public consistory, and all the cardinals rejected them. Fieramosca then presented to the Pope a letter in the Emperor's own hand, in very mild terms, condoling with him for the injuries he had received from the Colonnese, offering to avenge him, and to do whatever he thinks best for universal peace.
They then agreed that a suspension of arms would be very acceptable, and wrote to Venice for consent.
Believes the Pope will pay the 150,000 gold pieces proposed. The Imperialists say that doubtless the Emperor will have an interview with the Pope if he wishes.
Hostilities are suspended for eight days, till an answer comes from Venice. If a general suspension is taken, which he does not think likely, neither the Pope nor Venice will take up arms again. Bourbon will thus establish himself in Milan, and the Emperor be lord of Italy.
The French are to blame for not giving help in time, but the destruction of Italy will ruin them also. The Pope has done and is doing more than his power permits, in sustaining the expences here and in Lombardy, 100,000 [ducats] a month, for which he is parting with all he can, trusting to the promises of his friends. The only hope they have is the marriage of the Princess with Francis.
Letters from France have come of the 8th, 9th, 10th, and 13th, promising wonders. D. de Vademonte has landed at Civita Vecchia, and one French noble has come hither with money. This may do some good, but the amount must be greater, and come as soon as possible, "quoniam salus nostra non consistit in quinquaginta millibus."
The Germans in Lombardy have joined the Spaniards, and threaten Piacenza,—which, however, is well fortified.
The Venetians have crossed the Po into Parma with 7,000 foot and 400 horse. Urbino has his camp on the other side, ready to cross or stay, as necessary. Alarcon is wounded, and probably dead. Any delay will disperse the enemy, who have no money. "Dux Ferrariæ non currit tam furiose ut dubitabatur." It will not be wonderful if some day Bourbon is sold like a lamb in the shambles.
Lat., pp. 4. Headed: Exemplum literarum fidedignissimi hominis, ex Roma, ultimo Jan.
31 Jan.
Vesp. C. IV. 20. B. M.
2828. GHINUCCI and LEE to [WOLSEY].
Had not spoken with the Emperor when Chr. Mores arrived on the 22 Jan. His Majesty only came to Valladolid on the 24th, and appointed the 26th to give them answer. Ghinucci declared the object of his mission, sc., that as the Emperor had written to the King, and desired him by Botton to mediate a peace, the King desired to know his mind as to particulars. Here I paused. The Emperor said he adhered to his purpose, but could make no answer about particulars, as he demanded nothing. If any reasonable offers were made to him he would descend to particulars with good will. I replied that he could not say he demanded nothing, as he still adhered to the treaty of Madrid, which the King hoped he would mitigate for his sake, and for the public weal. He answered that Bayard, a secretary of the French king, was now come out of France, and that other letters came before for the French ambassador, which he would hear and make answer to. "Nevertheless he said (fn. 7) A. Hitherto for this point."
Advised the Emperor to state his mind about Milan;—whether for the satisfaction of the confederates he would put the whole state in deposito of one such as he and the confederates could agree on. He said this would be to the prejudice of Bourbon, to whom, he had granted it; and when Ghinucci said that Bourbon's interest was only in case it were proved that Sforza had forfeited the dukedom, he said he would think over the matter with his Council.
Ghinucci then proposed abstinence of war in Italy pending negotiations. Charles said he would agree to one for four or five years, but a truce for three or four months would be injurious to him; moreover, it was needless, as nothing could be done this winter time. Suggested that England might be a security for him, and that he might be more compliant if nothing could be done in winter. He said he would like to have peace first, and might perhaps consent to an abstinence after. Ghinucci said he ought rather to begin with abstinence than end with it; and he said he would think more of it. We were then dismissed. Saw the Chancellor in the afternoon, who said the Emperor had been always inclined to peace; which, he said, Lee well knew that he had twice declared to the King, and that he had sent with the last letters by Echyngham "mandatum in Angliam ad tractandum et cocludendum de pace universali et particulari," with such full instructions to his ambassadors that there needed no further occasion to refer to himself. He thought the Emperor was the first who had sent any commission to England, and he had sent another to Rome, besides urging the ambassadors of the confederates to send for commissions; so that he is ready to treat either here, at Rome, or in England. When we said we thought the French king's commission was by this time in England, "he said, somewhat smiling after his manner, B."
Desired him to be a mediator for abstinence of war in Italy until peace should be concluded. He said if they desired truce for four or five years no doubt the Emperor would consent, but not for three or four months,—and that ere long he thought we should find they had not been idle.
Went next to the Nuncio's, where we met the ambassadors of France, Florence, Venice, and Milan, also Paulus, one of the Pope's chamberlains, who came to the Emperor at Toledo in his journey from Granada, bringing mandata ad nuncium, ad oratores Gallum, Venetum, et Mediolanensem. There the French and Venetian ambassadors read their commissions, declaring they could do nothing without us. "Milan said he had mandatum, but none he read; of Florence stood covert under the Nuncio's commission." The French ambassador pretended to declare his full instructions, but, as we afterwards found, declared only part. He said he wished it had been treated in England, and would conclude nothing till he had sent to his master again. He produced an article which he said was part of the league between Henry and Francis, dated 30 Aug. 1525, that Francis should make no conclusion with the Emperor unless the King should repute himself content of all the Emperor's debts to him; another that he should make no peace without comprehending England; and a third, that he should not aid the Emperor if the King made war upon him to recover his debts. "This he read openly. We mused what he meant thereby, &c." On the Nuncio urging how desirable it was to bring the affair to a conclusion, he asked whether we would consent? We said, Certainly, to the peace, which we were expressly sent to advance; "but if he demanded whether for the King's interest we would consent, we have no consent ne dissent herein, for we be no party."
Next morning (Sunday) Lee wrote to the French ambassador to lend him the copy of the article. He said he could not without the consent of secretary Bayard; after speaking with Bayard, he sent to tell Lee he would show it him at the Nuncio's house. Sent a servant, asking leave to borrow it; but he said he could only deliver it into Lee's own hands, which he did on meeting him. Told him we had no knowledge of the article from the King, and that if Francis wished to know the King's mind he was nearer him than we. Cannot understand what he is driving at.
Were sent for next day by the Chancellor, who told them on the Emperor's behalf, who wished to hide nothing from the King, that the French ambassadors had been with him on the Sunday, and presented the articles of the treaty of Madrid, which Francis would have reformed, and that his Majesty would that he should show them to us, C.
We then went to dine with the count of Nassau, with whom were La Chault and De Pratt. After dinner they began to talk of these treaties, which they wished to bring to some good conclusion, "and so fell into further communication such D."
There is no hope any fruit will come of the treaty if Francis insists on his demands for reformation of the treaty of Madrid. E.
Dined with the Chancellor on Wednesday, 30 Jan., who told them the Emperor wished all things that should be done about the peace to be "communed to us liberally and familiarly, as the orators of that prince in whom he had put his most affiance, from time to time, as they shall happen D.*"
He gave us news from Italy of the 29 Dec., that the Pope was abashed at hearing of the Viceroy's arrival in the haven of St. Stephen's, and thought to go to Pisa and leave Rome; that the Viceroy had restored two ports to the Siennese; that the Pope had sent the General of the Observants to the Viceroy to ask abstinence for six months, which the Viceroy refused unless he would pay the Emperor's army meanwhile; and that his Holiness had afterwards sent the archbishop of Capua, offering "to find the Almains." It was not known whether they had yet come to an agreement. Also, that the duke of Ferrara had sent men, money, and ordnance to the Imperialists; (Lee hears that the duke's eldest son is to wed the Emperor's bastard daughter, and give the Emperor 200,000 ducats;)—that the Orsini and Colonnas waste each other, and the cardinal of Colonna is deprived. Valladolid, 31 Jan. Signed.
31 Jan.
Vesp. C. IV.9. B.M.
2. "Ex literis Reverendi D. Wigorn. et D. Elemosynarii die xxxj. Januarii ex Valdoleta conjunctim datis."
A., it would be very difficult to trust the French king, for a merchant who had broken faith was never trusted afterwards. Urged that the Emperor might at least trust Henry's mediation, and if France could not be induced to do right otherwise, she might be compelled.
B. "The French tell us quite another tale, saying that unless we agree to their demands in eight days they will be compelled to act with others. Quo elucident hoc enigma quod veriti sunt nobis impartiri. Alii commiserunt palam scribere; is vero scribit parum nunc abesse ut prope diem de ineundo matrimonio concludatur Regis Franciæ cum filia Regis Angliæ." Said he would perhaps let the ambassadors see the very letters n which the French had boasted to this effect; and added, smiling, "O, how well I know these tricks and lies of the French! How well the king of England would dispose of his daughter si morbi illius Gallo infecto eam nuptui traderet, qui, sicuti ad nos scribunt, haud ita multo pridem sudavit in hypocausto!" This appeared incredible to us. But Lee answered that he had twice confuted the rumors got up by the French,—first, on his first going to the Emperor, when they said he brought nothing but threats; and again, when they told everybody that the king of England had not only entered the league of Italy, but was considered its protector. He therefore hoped soon to put them to shame a third time.
C., that we might judge whether they were the propositions of a man sincerely inclined to peace. He also asked Jo. Allemand to read us some extracts of letters from France; of which we enclose a copy, that the King and Wolsey may judge "cum quibus Protheis rem habemus."
(fn. 8) From what we have heard here we perceive that nothing can be done in France with so great secrecy that is not told here, even by the intimates of the king of France. By these means, as the Chancellor told us, they became acquainted with the most secret articles of the Italian league, and the conditions offered to the king of England to join it, as you will see by the extracts; and who, except some yeoman of the guard, could have blabbed that the French king was sweated ob morbum quem vocant Gallum? The Almoner heard from John Alleman that one of the French king's chamber, when he was sent to England, exclaimed "Ohe! quales ego nugas, quam insigne præstigium ego mecum in Angliam porto ut Regi illudam!" Think that great caution must be used in whatever is communicated to the king of France, and that he should make no further advances, nor grant them so freely what they desire, if it be true what the spies said, that the French are attempting to cause the King to fail with both powers. If Francis will persist in his unjust requirements, the Pope must not incur extreme peril to foster the French king's iniquity, but condescend to terms, as the other Italian confederates will do. Apologises for offering this advice.
D. that it was evident they were greatly exasperated against Francis, of whose faithlessness they spoke in very strong terms. They proposed a league between the Pope, the Emperor, and the king of England, "parum nobis pensi nisi habere quid tunc ageret Rex Franciæ." Wishes the King would adopt such a course. It is too plain to be denied that this Prince has erred; but at such an age penitence ought to be allowed, and he accommodates himself in everything to the King's wishes, while there is no faith on the other side. In this conversation Nassau said, "Bene res habet. The French king's sons are hostages in our hands, and if Francis should die while they are with us, the king of England and we will provide a fit governor for France." Speaks of the double-dealing of the French, who by secretary Bayard have offered the enclosed articles to the Emperor, pretending that they only wanted to thank him for his generous treatment of the French king's sons. Next day they consulted at the Nuncio's in what manner it would be best to begin negociations. It was arranged, the French speaking first, first to offer their mandata to the Emperor, then in a general way to urge their demands as if they had not already made them specific; and for a further blind, they sent Lee the overtures they were going to make to the Emperor, i.e., those that they had revised at the Nuncio's house, adding that they were bound by the treaty with England not to conclude, unless the King's debts were paid. Lee, following their own tactics, praised their purpose, and said we would write to the King. Even when their King was a prisoner at Madrid, and Lee was sent to intercede for him with the Emperor, they would not let him, the bishop of London, or the Dean know anything of their affairs. One may judge of the cordiality of Francis from his refusal to send to England a commission to treat for peace, which the Emperor did at once.
E. The Emperor's council think he cares neither for peace nor for the redemption of his sons, but has some views which nobody understands. The Emperor, however, will certainly not refuse to treat with the Pope and Italians, "rejecto scrupulo ligæ quo cavetur ne sine consensu omnium confœderatorum ad id minimum inducent." Would like to know as soon as possible what the King and Wolsey think of this, and whether any other commissions than the Emperor's has yet arrived in England. Send back this messenger in all haste, though negociations are scarce begun, considering the great importance of what we have written.
D*. He then told us that the French ambassadors had been with him, and had shown him a commission written in French (though they showed us a different one in Latin), in which he said he had discovered two faults; first, that it made mention of instructions which did not appear; and second, that there was an article about restoring Francis Sforza.—a matter in which the Emperor was not to be dictated to by the French king. As to the first, they had explained matters by producing their instructions, signed by Francis, differing from those they had already shown only in the 20th article, which the ambassadors explained as merely referring to the provisions of the Italian league. The latter instructions, though not in accordance with the treaty of Madrid, were more just on this point than the former. By the treaty France was bound to furnish a certain number of men and vessels for three months from the day the Emperor embarked, on the faith of his letters only; but Francis now refuses the pay of the soldiers, and demands security for the return of his fleet. The Chancellor said he wondered they proposed conditions, which they had already twice offered to De Praet and the Viceroy. "One thing," he said, "you must grant me. Your King either cannot fulfil what he agreed to do, or he will not, or he ought not. If he cannot, he should return to prison. If he will not, it is unkingly. If he ought not, show your reasons." The marquis of Montferrat, who was present, said, "I wonder you have not another commission;" on which they immediately insinuated that they had, and produced the Latin one in a meeting at Nassau's chamber, which we had seen before. This contained authority to treat for universal peace, though they only aimed at a particular one. The clause in their commission stating that they were not authorized to conclude without the consent of England, the Emperor's council think, was intended partly to destroy the effect of their commission, and partly to sow discord between the Emperor and England. The Chancellor thinks the Nuncio and Ventian ambassador have other commissions also.
Lat., pp. 10. Vannes' hand.
Vesp. C. IV.
13. B. M.
2829. [LEE to WOLSEY.]
There is one Cornelius here, of Nieuport in Flanders, of whom I (Lee) spoke in my letter of the 3rd Dec. When two nativities, somewhat different, were brought him of king Francis, he plainly affirmed that both were true, and that he whose nativities they were would die within the year. Thinks this is of sufficient importance to be told to Wolsey. I have heard an extraordinary tale attributed to Robertet, that great offers and earnest solicitations were made by Fitzwilliam for a marriage between Francis and the princess Mary, and that Morette had made frequent voyages to England for this purpose. Francis refused, and greater offers will be made by Henry, who has offered to assist him in recovering his children, and make war upon Flanders. Another person, of some repute, has warned the Emperor that the practices for this marriage have far advanced, as the king of England is only attempting, more suo, to hinder the alliance between Francis and the Emperor; "verum dicit se videre rem conclusam in commodum et augumetum(sic) Gallorum, et si non provideatur ad hoc, esse vera media ut aliquid tentaretur contra Regiam Celsitudinem, ut ab ea caperetur quicquid habet ultra mare ad commodum Cæsaris et Regis Gallorum; qui Rex Gallorum dabit illi adsistentiam necessariam, et sic nunc faciet satis negotii ex parte Scotiæ. Positæ antea istæ oblationes ante +"
Lat., pp. 2, in Vannes' hand.
31 Jan.
Vesp. C. IV. 25. B.M.
2830. LEE to WOLSEY.
Has done nothing as yet with the abp. of Toledo. He is not yet arrived with the Empress. The bp. of Palencia, it is said, will redeem the pension after four years' payment, sc.8,000 ducats de Cameras. I think he will come to more. The pension for Christmas twelvemonth and Midsummer last is in the merchants' hands, with the exception of 600 ducats, for which I send a warrant to the prior of St. Mary's, Overy. Does not know how to send the rest at present. Gold has risen. We will wait for some English merchant. Hopes he has received all Echyngham's despatches. Begs him most carefully to consider the contents of their common letter in cipher, "and some insinuations therein, and to stop if may be, &c." Praises Chr. Mores, the bearer, and wonders how he escaped the waters, which have done much hurt here. Valladolid, 31 Jan.
Hol., pp. 3. Add.
31 Jan.
Vesp. C. IV. 6. B.M.
Summary of his last letters of the 19th. The Emperor arrived on the 24th. Had an audience on the 26th. In conformity with their instructions of the 31 Dec. and 22 Jan., Mr. Almoner will describe the conference. He urged that the Emperor had been well treated by the King taking upon him to manage the peace, as the interests of the Emperor would better be regarded, and France be more induced to observe its obligations. He replied that he would take it into consideration. When the deposit was strongly urged he made a similar reply. Has no hopes ever since he asserted that he had granted the duchy (status) to the duke of Bourbon. He refused to consent to an abstinence of arms, and would listen to no arguments to be urged on that head. This refusal was repeated by the Chancellor, who told us openly that the Emperor would never consent to an abstinence except on condition of a truce for five or at least three years. Will learn by their letters the subjects of their interview with the French ambassador. Refused to enter into any consideration as to partnership (participatio) as being beyond their commission.
Stated that it was not in their power to consent to a treaty of peace, as the King had resolved upon neutrality. It is said the Venetians have taken Urbino. Other news of Italy, and of the disputes between the French and Imperial ministers. Valladolid, 31 Jan. 1527. Signed.
Lat., pp. 4.
Ib.f.18. 2. Duplicate of the preceding, with some verbal differences. Valladolid, 31 Jan. 1527. Signed in the hand of Ghinucci's clerk: "Humillimum mancipium, Wigorniensis."
Lat., pp. 4.
31 Jan.
Vesp. C. IV. 14. B.M.
"Ex literis D. Wigorn., xxxj. Januarii datis."
Suggests that occasion should be given to the Imperial ambassador to write to the Emperor that the peace negociations had already been begun by Henry, that the Chancellor and others here may see the affair is no longer entirely in the Emperor's hands. Wolsey can make it appear, by the date of his letters, that he had written to Ghinucci before he could have had letters from Spain. Wrote, in his other letters by the bearer, what the French have been negociating here. Wonders if their object is only to make the Emperor think, especially considering the things sent to his councillors as from a spy in the Emperor's court, that they are on the eve of concluding with the King. Is glad to think the King and Wolsey are not in the dark like himself. Cannot tell why these Imperialists do not communicate with us, unless they suspect we know all from the French ambassador, "vel forte ideo id facere, ut quoniam potuerunt comprehendere desyderari istic incutionem (inceptionem?) videatur minus durum Regiæ Majestati si hic de pace tractetur, quasi (quam si?) in ipsius pacis tractatu suæ Majestatis oratores interveniant."
Wolsey will perceive, both from their common letters and from his own, that there was no opportunity for carrying out his particular instructions. Master Almoner thinks that whatever has to be written in cipher should be in Worcester's cipher, as being the more difficult. As in this correspondence I perform the part of a prompter only, "cupio omnia, ut par est, ab eo recognosci, ea saltem quæ partem judiciariam et consultoriam concernunt." (fn. 9) Does not know if it was mentioned in their joint letters, "alia mandata de quibus in ipsis literis fit mentio pura esse." Heard this from the same person who informed us of the rest.
It is said the king of France will not consent. Notwithstanding their liberality, the pontifical Nuncio, who is in the confidence of the Emperor, told a friend that the Imperial ambassador, notwithstanding his instructions for peace, is to do nothing without consulting the Emperor. (fn. 10) If peace is to be had, the Chancellor will use his efforts that it should be by his means. The French king has hitherto negociated by means of Madame Eleanor. There is no treaty between the two courts, and no one here in behalf of Francis except one Bayard, a relative of Robertet. He has frequent interviews with the ambassadors at the house of the Nuncio. We have been twice invited to attend. Will find out what is going on. The Imperialists pretend to have confidence in the King, although they have none. They have told us the news from France, that there is some intelligence between France and England, and they are afraid of the union of the two, probably because the conditions lately proposed by Francis are wide of the previous ones, "nisi dicamus id solum factum ad hoc ut facilius Cæsar concedat concessibilia quæ ad hoc videntur tendere ut Cæsarem premant in Hispania." This does not seem probable, for without the support of England the French could not force the Emperor. I do not understand these mysteries, and have resolved to dismiss them from my thoughts, as I am not likely to fathom them. The Imperialists have news from Italy which they have not communicated to us. They only inform us of what they learn from France. Thinks it relates to nothing more than the Emperor's preparations. If the struggle is protracted he will submit to honorable conditions; if not, he will be arbitrary and obstinate.
Has set it afloat in the ears of lady Eleanor that the French king is anxious for a marriage with the princess Mary. Details the method which he has employed to counteract the report that it is not the Emperor, but others, who stand in the way of the peace, without which no joint effort can be made against the Infidels. "Isti res Turcarum ita pingere, ut necessitatem et facilitatem eodem tempore præsupponere" (sic).
Has endeavored to persuade the French ambassadors that their master was much mistaken in supposing that the peace could be treated of here. They are anxious that all things should be referred to England. Some of the Imperial councillors say that the Emperor has little trust in the King, and less in your Reverence. Although the Emperor pretends to wish for peace, he is only deceiving, and waiting the turn of events in Italy. The count of Nassau told us, if the Pope, as he hoped, and the king of England, were joined with the Emperor, Francis must be reasonable; and though he apparently showed himself satisfied to have the peace by means of England, it was only an artifice. When we were dining with him, Lashaw, and De Praet, they told us that the Emperor's nature was such that he would yield to gentle means, but not to violent;—hinting, as I think, to the intelligence between the kings of France and England. Avoided speaking of the mediation of the king of England, lest he should be thought importunate in wishing to transfer the negociation to England; but in a few days will take an opportunity of urging on the Imperialists that there is a much better chance of peace by the mediation of England, and greater security for it. Will take every opportunity of doing what is required. Has urged upon the confederates that the best chance for each state to retain its rights is to refer the whole to the king of England, as a man of honor. The Imperialists have referred to the matrimonial negociations between France and England, to which he made a general answer, "Præter id ostendebant se nullo modo talia credere, quamvis_"
Lat., pp. 2. In Vannes' hand. Imperfect.
R. O. 2833. CHARLES V.
Answer of Charles V. to the Nuncio and French and Venetian ambassadors.
The Emperor has always desired a universal peace, for the sake of attacking the common enemies of the Faith. With this intention he made a treaty with Francis, gave him his sister, and allowed him to return to his kingdom, not doubting that he would keep his word, and persuade other princes to join a universal peace. Instead of this, war has been kindled afresh, Hungary is being devastated, and its King is killed, heretics are growing stronger, and a treaty has been made against himself.
Nevertheless, he first sent instructions to Rome in case a peace were treated of there, as the Pope seemed to offer; then, when the king of England professed readiness for the same, and asked for instructions to be sent to the ambassador with him, saying that the other allies would do the same, the Emperor sent to him also the most ample instructions and honorable terms. Lastly, the Nuncio and the French and Venetian ambassadors at the Emperor's Court said they had ample commissions, and urged him to appoint some one to treat with them. Their commissions, however, afford no sure basis. That of the Pope, besides ascribing all the blame of these wars to the Emperor, gives no power to treat of peace without the consent of his confederates, who are not named, and many of whom are probably unknown to the Emperor. That of the French king errs in requiring the consent of confederates, and especially the king of England, who has expressly declared to the Emperor that he has not joined and would not join the treaty, but wished to be the author of peace. There is also no mention of the former treaty, so that by the commission nothing could be done contrary to it. The commission of the Venetians requires the consent of Francis Sforza and the Florentines, and, as shown by the Venetian ambassador himself, of every one of the confederates; it has, therefore, the same fault as that of the Pope. Besides, the method proposed by Balthassar Castillion, the Nuncio, on the part of all the allies, would hinder, not promote, universal peace. Nothing could be more dangerous, while the Turk threatens them, than a short suspension of arms in Italy, to treat of particulars. This would neither allow their arms to be turned against the Turk, nor would it allow the Emperor to disband his army.
He will consent to a general truce for three years or longer, during which they may attack the Turks, and settle with greater safety their disagreements.
The restitution of Francis Sforza is no concern of the allies, as he is a vassal of the empire, and accused of treason. Offers, however, to appoint impartial judges to hear his defence. As to the restitution of the French princes, it accords neither with reason, law, nor justice. If the treaty cannot be performed, the King can free them by returning to his captivity. They can adduce no reason why it ought not to be performed. If he does not choose to perform it, it will not be safe to enter any other treaty with him. Notwithstanding the injustice of these demands, the Emperor is willing to accept fair conditions, and does not object to leave it to impartial arbitration, on condition that the expedition against the Infidels is not delayed. The Nuncio's last stipulation, that the money owing to the king of England shall be paid, is absurd, as Henry does not belong to the League. His ambassadors with the Emperor have not attneded this meeting, and the princes are so connected by blood and affection that no money matters could disturb their friendship. His ambassador in England has ample instructions about it.
The whole demand seems therefore useless, and tending to promote rather war than peace; but to show that he is quite ready for peace, the Emperor has ordered this answer to be given to the Nuncio and other ambassadors present, and a public instrument thereof will be prepared by the notary.
Lat., pp. 8. Part of this document is on a separate paper, and in a different handwriting.
[Cal. E.I.II.?]
71. B.M.
"Il avoit este pourparler de la duche de Bourgoigne ... surplus nous voulsissions constituer quelqu ... ladite Royne nostre seur, entantmains et ende ... de largent que lon nous bailleroit pour ... Que larticle quel parle de layde offensive ... se deust entendre seullement de nos biens pa ... en hostant les motz qui parlent de ce que ... aussi ceux de lempire. Quant aux arti[cles de] lindempnite dAngleterre et aussi de ceulx [de Monsieur] de Bourbon ny aux autres sauf les dessus[dits sur le] fait de la restitution de Burgoigne, ny ont nul[le fois] contredicts, ains ont dit, voire afferme, quilz se ... selon ledit forme et teneur et en eslieu dudit ... et pour la dite suspension de la restitution ont par ... deux millions descuz dor au soleil a payer ... les douze cens mille mesme instant a ... rendront les enfans, les quatre cens mi[lle] ... ilz disoient quilz les pourroient payer au [Roy] dAngleterre ou l'en contenter pour le pre [sent de ce] que luy devons, quilz creoient monter ausdites iiij. mi[lle escuz], et les quatre cens mille restants quilz demeurassent [pour] le dot de la dicte Royne. Toutesfois enfin un ... a dire que les deux cens mille diceulx fussent po[ur son] dot et des autre deux cens mille en bailleront bon seurtez du payement a termes convenables. Et audemeurant que tout ledict traicte de Madril saccom[plira] dune part et dautre. Vela les choses que lesdits am[bassadeurs] de France ont mises avant, en particulier, et le[s ont] reiterees plusieurs fois, disans en avoir charge de l[eur] maistre, et qui ny auroit pointe de faulte.
71b. "[Ce] que les ambassadeurs de France ont dit comme deulx mes ... au commencement, et en apres lont reitere, plusieurfois aff[ermants] quilz en avoient expresse charge du Roy leur maistre qu[il les] accompliroit, cest ce que sensuyt. Assavoir ce quil avoit ... promis par le traicte de Madril quant au donnacion et renunc[iacion] perpetuelles des souverainetez de Flandres et Artois, du droit qu[il] disoit pretendre en Naples, du duche de Milan, seigneur[ie] de Gennes et conte dAstz, renunciacion de Tournay, et resti[tution] de Hesdin, en la maniere et seurte que les articles dudict tra[icte] de Madril le contiennent sans aucune innovacion. Quant ... a larticle de layde pour le voyage dItalie que aussi le[dit] Roy de France laccompliroit, y refformant trois choses; l[a premiere] quil se declairait le temps limite que son armee de ... devroit actendre apres nous, dequelle seroit arme ... la demanderions; lautre quil ne se fit mencion ... cinq cens hommes darmes, que ledit Roy de France i ... doit baille[r] a ses despens pour le terme de six mois ... voulons avoir pour ledit voiaige dItalye, et lau ... que nous voulsissions luy quicter et laisser les d ... cens mil escuz quil nous doit faire payer en arg[ent] pour nous ayder audit voiaige. Quant aux artic[les] de don Henry de Dallebret, et de messire Charles [de] Gheldres, qui fussent refformez, assavoir que 1 ... mit sullement en obligacion que ledit Roy de France s[oit] tenu de non les assister contre nous silz nous voul[sissent] offendre et non autrement. Quant au traicte de m[ariage] de notre seur la Royne, quil estoit bien comme il est couche, sauf quil demandoit estre refforme que ... on luy baillons en dot et en nom de dot les con[tes] d'Auxerrois, Masconnoye et Chastellenye de Bar s[ur] Seyne, ledit dot fust commice (?) en ce que lesdits con[tes] et Chastellenye demeurassent ensemble le dro[it] que il pretendons en suspence et surceance ..."
31 Jan.
R. O.
Last year suspended and excommunicated Wm. Buketon, gentleman, for refusing to do penance ordered him by Higdon for his open [uncleanness] committed with one Cecilie Brygham. [He said] "he would leave her company at my commandment. Albeit ... w absolved him, and caused it to be ... Whereupon I fear like m ... and regard little the correction of yo[ur Grace]." Wolsey should cause him to do penance and leave her. Wolsey's subjects are commonly called to appear in London before his offices in causes of correction, and sometimes at the promotion of light persons, without reasonable cause. It would be a great benefit if he would command that none be called out of the country, unless for a special cause. York, 31 Jan.
Hol., p.1, mutilated. Add.: To my lord Cardinal of Yor[k], legate of England.
His commissaries in the province of Canterbury hear causes between the inhabitants of the diocese and province here, and still call them to London, notwithstanding his audience here. The people murmur at it so much that he is weary of hearing them. Asks him to order his commissaries here to cease, and allow the others to serve for both the provinces. His subjects do not know which to obey. Many persons who are summoned thither are summoned from malice by their enemies. York, 20 May.
Hol., p.1. Add.: To my lord Cardinal of York and Legate.
Arch. XXVI.
"Term. Hil. 18 Henrici VIII."
Demands of Jasper Filoll against Sir Francis Bryan, with answers of the said Sir Francis before Dr. Sampson, dean of the chapel, and Sir Thomas Nevell, commissioners assigned, jointly with Sir Harry Wyat, by Wolsey.
R. O.
2838. CLERK to WOLSEY.
Cover of a letter from the bp. of Bath, addressed "to my lord Legate's grace." Endd.: "Gallia: fro my lord of Bath to my Lord his grace. January."
Jan./GRANTS. 2839.GRANTS in JANUARY 1527.
2. Launcelot Lamott alias Emo, tailor, Michael Senecall, comb-maker, Peter Vansoylett, tailor, alias Peter Vasser, Dionisius de Voyse, alias Dionysius de Hyose, capper, John Clarumball, tailor, John de la Porte alias John de la Parton, tailor, Thos. Stoke (?), bookbinder, John Pollard, bookbinder, Lewis Brewson, pouchmaker, Roger la Shenna alias Roger La Franne, hosier, John a Gaunt, tailor, and Martin Dature or Dotier, bookbinder, all of London. Pardon for all offences against the person of John Norfolk alias Stamford, on 17 June 18 Hen. VIII., at Le Hyde in the parish of St. Martin's-in-the-Fields, Middx. Del. Westm., 2 Jan. 18 Hen. VIII.—S.B.
2. For John Stokisley, S.T.P. Presentation to Northluffenham church, Linc. dioc., vice Ric. Stokisley, deceased. Greenwich, 31 Dec. 18 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 2 Jan.—P.S. Pat. 18 Hen. VIII.p.1, m. 19.
3. Roger_, a native of Wesell, in the duchy of Clive. Denization. Westm., 3 Jan.—Pat. 18 Hen. VIII.p.2, m.25.
6. Walter Davy. To have the Crown fee of 6d. a day, vice John Worteley, deceased. Greenwich, 6 Jan. 18 Hen. VIII.—P.S.
7. Ric. Cooper, of London, grocer. Protection; going in the retinue of Sir Rob. Wingfield, deputy of Calais. Greenwich, 7 Jan. 18 Hen. VIII.—P.S.
12. Ric. Beste. To be a gunner in the Tower of London, as held by Rob. Fyssher, with 6d. a day, on surrender by Jas. Nedeham of patent 1 Sept. 17 Hen. VIII. Greenwich, 29 Dec. 18 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 12 Jan.—P.S.
12. Laurence Eglisfelde, yeoman of the Guard. To have the Crown fee of 6d. a day, vice John Brereton, deceased. Greenwich, 6 Jan. 18 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 12 Jan.—P.S.
12. Rob. Seymer. To be sheriff of co. Anglesea, on the death of Owen Holland, who holds by grant 28 Nov. 20 Hen. VII., in same manner as Rees Ap Llewellyn Ap Hul-kyn. Greenwich, 9 Jan. 18 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 12 Jan.—P.S.
16. John Herbert. Licence to import laces and ribands. Del. Westm., 16 Jan. 18 Hen. VIII.—S.B. Fr., m.4.
17. John Westbe, LL.D. Presentation to the church of Debden [Deepden], London dioc., void by death. Westm., 17 Jan.—Pat. 18 Hen. VIII. p.2, m.25.
18. Tho. Williams. To be serjeant of the peace in the lp. of Chirkelande, Marches of Wales, vice Ric. Ap Owen, deceased. Greenwich, 15 Jan. 18 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 18 Jan.—P.S.
19. Irian Brereton and Wm. Edwardys. To be constable in survivorship of Chirke castle, marches of Wales. Westm., 9 Jan.—Pat. 18 Hen. VIII. p.2, m.23.
21. John Serger, of Pynne Hove, Devon, carrier. Protection; going in the retinue of Sir Rob. Wingfield.—P.S.
21. Blanch, wife of Rob. Twyford, sergeant-at-arms. Annuity of 5l. out of the manor of Maxsey, Northt., vice Wm. Hylmer, deceased. Del. Westm., 21 Jan. 18 Hen. VIII.—S.B. Pat. p.1,m.16.
24. Edm. Modee. To have an annuity of 20 marks. Greenwich, 21 Jan. 18 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 24 Jan.—P.S.
25. Wm. Pratte, of Norwich, worsted weaver. Protection; going in the retinue of Sir Rob. Wingfield. Greenwich, 25 Jan. 18 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 25 Jan.—P.S.
26. Tho. Smyth, of London. Protection; going in the retinue of Sir Rob. Wingfield. Greenwich, 23 Jan. 18 Hen. VIII.—P.S.
26. Tho. West lord la Warr, Sir Roger Copley, Rob. Norwyche, serjeant-at-law, John Rowe, serjeant-at-law, and Tho. Polstede. Licence to alienate lands in Iplepen, Torbryan, Kyngeskarswell, and Whythecom, Devon, to Sir Anth. de St. Amand and Anne his wife, with remainder, in default of issue, to Ric. and Wm. Wrattisley, brothers. Westm., 26 Jan.—Pat. 18 Hen. VIII.p.2, m.1.
28. Wm. Crane, master of the boys of the Chapel Royal. Licence to import 500 tuns of Toulouse woad and Gascon wine. Westm., 28 Jan.—Fr., 18 and 19 Hen. VIII. m. 4.
28. Chris. Rochester, gent. usher of the Chamber. Licence to import wine and woad. Del. Westm., 28 Jan. 18 Hen. VIII.—S.B.—Fr., m.4.
28. Ric. Stokke, of Hanley, Worc., Normanton, Derby, and of Westminster. Pardon for the murder of John Pawnysford, of co. Glouc. Otford, 25 May 14 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 28 Jan. 18 Hen.VIII.—P.S. Pat.p.2, m. 22.
28. Rob. Wynston, of Trewayn, Marches of Wales. Pardon. Del. Westm., 28 Jan. 18 Hen.VIII.—S.B.
29. John Dawney, kinsman and heir of Marmaduke Darell and Wm. Darell. Inspeximus and confirmation of two charters of Hen. III. and Edw. I., granting free warren to the said Marmaduke and William. Westm., 29 Jan.—Pat. 18 Hen. VIII.p.2, m.21.
29. Sir John Fitzjames, Chief Justice. Grant of two tuns of Gascon wine a year. Del. Westm., 29 Jan. 18 Hen. VIII.—S.B.
29. Isabel Fisher, of Epilwith, and Marg. Robynson, of Newburgh, York. Pardon. Del. Westm., 29 Jan. 18 Hen. VIII.—S.B.
31. Owen Whitton, yeoman usher of the Chamber. To be keeper of the warren of hares and woodward in the lp. of Spellesbury, Oxf. Del. Westm., 31 Jan. 18 Hen. VIII.—S.B. Pat. p. 2, m. 21.—Vacated on surrender, 13 Nov. 4 Edw. VI.
... John Penhelek, of Penhelek of St. Illogan, Cornwall, "frankelen." Pardon. Del. x ... Jan. 18 Hen. VIII.—S.B.


  • 1. After several of the names in these lists are added notes like the following:—Memorandum, that the said John Goldewell is less in value and decayed by reason of ill debts and by the death of his wife."—"The said John is decayed by death of his wife and sickness of himself."—And in one case, "The said Walter Kellet is decayed by marriage of his son and by ill debts."
  • 2. In this letter, which is full of curious matter, and shows the interest taken by Lee in geography, the writer claims for his father, in conjunction with Hugh Eliot, a merchant of Bristol, the discovery of Newfoundland.
  • 3. Blanks in MS.
  • 4. Not 1526–7, though in the King's commission it is dated in 18 Hen. VIII.
  • 5. This letter must have been written in January 1526.
  • 6. Continued at f. 20.
  • 7. The passages referred to by letters A, B, C, &c., will be found in No. 2.
  • 8. f. 12.
  • 9. Ticked in the margin by Wolsey.
  • 10. Ticked by Wolsey.