Henry VIII: August 1528, 11-20

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August 1528

11 Aug.
Galba, B. IX. 135. B. M.
Has received his letters of 27 July. Is astonished at the remonstrance made by the bishop of Bayonne to Wolsey about the affairs of Madame de Vendosme. She ought to thank Wolsey instead of being angry with him, because the prince of Orange enjoys certain goods, and a small part is reserved to lady Margaret, so as not to break the treaty of Madrid. In treating with De la Hargerie as to the property of the prince of Orange, the matter was settled by consent of the deputies of the lady of Vendosme, as will be seen by the enclosed extract.
As to my lady Margaret, it is true that the deputy of the lady of Vendosme has urged the taking of the valuation of the property now, instead of at the end of the truce, but he has ceased doing so in consequence of the answers made to him. What lady Margaret holds in charged nearly to the full value. In such short truces it is not usual to make any changes; but, to please Wolsey, she has acquiesced in everything. Wishes him to tell this to the bishop of Bayonne. As to the cardinal of Lorraine, makes no difficulty about his enjoying his property according to the truce. He has been advised to fix a day at Cambray to provide for all his affairs, and she asks Wolsey and the other conservators of the truce to send deputies thither.
Expects daily news from Escuier Marnix. Will continue her endeavors for peace. Malines, 11 Aug. 1528. Signed.
Fr., pp. 2.
Cal. D. x. 370. B. M. 4625. TRUCE between ENGLAND and the EMPEROR.
* * * "... traffic, sail and return ... elsewhere as they shall think good be ... or freshwater, paying only the customs ... duties, rights, and impositions such ... in the time of peace, without any disturbance ... to be done unto them in their persons, merchan[dize or] goods, whatsoever they be: Provided ... if any person haunting, dwelling, or sojourn[ing] ... countries one of the other, by virtue of this pr[oclamation], conspire against the weal of the country ... of the same, he shall be punished ... and infractor thereof, and nevertheless the ... remain and stand for all other in his for ... The subjects also and inhabitants ... lands * * * ... disturbance or let, may fish ... he in the seas, where the said truce ... where any fishing of herring may be ... [hav]e done before the war, and as they might ... [an]d were accustomed to do in time of peace. [It i]s also covenanted and accorded that the intercourse [of] merchandise between England and the Emperor's said co[untries,] their vassals, merchants and subjects whatsoever ... be of the same, shall have wholely and entie[rly] ... and course, not only for the said eight months ... afore, but also for as long time after as the [said truce] shall endure: In such form and manner as it [was in the] year before the intimation of war made [by the] King's highness to the said Emperor, without pay[ing of any c]ustoms, tolls, gabelles, duties ... t such as the * * * ... to pay in the time aforesaid ... year before the said intimation of [war. And] the said truce shall not have place in t[he parts] of Spain, ner in other countries and s ... which the said Emperor hath and pretendeth [to have,] as well beyond the mountains Pir[enees] also in Italy. Yet nevertheless it is ... concluded, accorded and expressly declared by [the] same truce that as long as the same [shall stand] and endure there shall cease between t[he said] princes, as well in the sea which is cal[led the] Narrow sea as in the rest of the sea occ ... main sea foranenst England, Wales, [Ireland,] Scotland, France, Normandy ...
* * * ... regions of the Low Countries ... Emperor and also in all other seas on the ... confines and havens of Spain hows[o-ever they may be] called or named, all hostility, invas[ion] ... exploit or feat of war for and betw[een the said princes,] their vassals and subjects, so that all an[d sundry the] merchants, subjects and vassals of the said pri[nces shall] mow, with their ships and other vessels w[hatsoever] they be, sail, go, tarry, sojourn, return, pass [and] repass with their said ships, equipage ... same, their merchandises and goods, whatsoever t[hey may] be, by all and every the said seas, safely, surely ... peaceably without any manner damage, grief, let, [impediment] or disturbance to be done unto them in th[eir bodies,] merchandises or goods * * * ... y the subjects, vassals or men of [war] ... or other being at their commandment ... or occasion whatsoever it be wherefore ... sovereign lord willeth and commandeth."
Draft, in Tuke's hand. Endd. by Wolsey: Copy of ... the truce and ... with letters appertain ...
Vesp. C. IV. 251. B. M. 4626. ANDREA DORIA.
Terms granted by the Emperor to Andrea Doria.
The Emperor will maintain Genoa in liberty, with the administration appointed by the people. He will pay Doria 5,000 ducats a month for 12 galleys, and give the security of merchants for it. Doria is to be the captain-general at sea. His wages to commence when he leaves the French king. The Emperor will give him benefices to the amount of 3,000 ducats for a kinsman.
Besides these things, the Emperor promises him a dukedom or marquisate in Naples. Doria remits to the Emperor his differences with the lord of Monaco. It is said that on the same day that Doria's ambassador left, he started to succour Naples. Many trust in the delay of the count of St. Pol. The Franciscan general is expected here from Rome; with whom the Emperor wishes to speak before he speaks with me [Silvester Darius], as he has already spoken to the bishop of Pistoia, that he may give me a more certain answer.
Lat., p. 1. Endd.
12 Aug.
R. O.
I am advertised that you have written to the mayor of Rye, commanding him to send to you one Nicholas Whyte. As he does not belong to Rye, but to Winchelsea, the mayor of the latter place gave him knowledge of your Grace's pleasure, and I have ordered him to appear before you. I shall be glad if you will direct your pleasure to me in all matters within my jurisdiction. The said Whyte is surveyor of the works at Tylyngham, where there has been a sea-breach, which will destroy the country unless it be repaired before Michaelmas. The said Whyte had been accused by the parish priest at Rye, before the bishop of Chichester, but after twice appearing his accusers could prove nothing. He is appointed to appear again at Lewes, on Friday next. Halden, 12 Aug. Signed.
P. 1, broadsheet. Add. Endd.
12 Aug.
R. O.
Sends him a greyhound. Will be at my lord Cardinal's on the morrow after Lady Day, and stop there five or six days. Will be glad to meet him there; for I mind to go through with my Lord's grace for Ravanston, and other causes, and would fain have your counsel. Will content Cromwell for his pains. Will be glad to know when he will be at Ravanston, and agree about the reparations. If he cannot come, he is to send his mind in writing. Artylborough, 11 Aug. Signed.
P.S.—Pray help the bearer to some sturgeon and quails.
P. 1. Add.
12 Aug.
R. O.
Sequestration by Rob. Clyf, LL.D., commissary of Nich. bishop of Ely, of the fruits of the church of Eversdon Parva, Ely dioc., belonging to the abbey of St. Alban's. Will. Rogers, of Eversdon Parva, to collect the same. Cambridge, 12 Aug. 1528.
Lat., p. 1. Endd.
13 Aug.
Cal. D. x. 348. B. M.
In behalf of Jehan du Vernoy of ... whose two ships loaded with woad have been arrested. F[ontaine]bleau, 13 Aug. 1528. Signed.
Fr., p. 1, mutilated. Add.
13 Aug.
Cleop. F. VI. 342. B. M. Ellis, 3 Ser. II. 29.
4631. WARHAM to [WOLSEY].
I have assembled eleven deaneries adjoining to Canterbury, and I perceive they are very well minded to the loan, but their substance is not equal to their wishes. They are very poor. As the chief benefices are appropriated to religious houses, the vicar's portion is so small they can scarcely live. If there be any good vicarages the religious obtain faculties from the Pope to have them served by the religious. In all the deaneries there are twenty-two benefices at the sum of 40l.(?), and six or seven are so decayed as to be nothing like that value. As I have no power over religious men, they must be left to your Grace; and unless they contribute to the loan according to the value of their benefices, the clergy will complain. Had the religious houses not been exempted, but appeared before me, the loan derived from my diocese would be much greater than now. The value of all the benefices in the diocese of Canterbury would then amount to a tax of 1,903l. 15s. 2d.
The clergy will not declare the quantity of their corn, their plate, or their cattle, as they say they cannot estimate them, and they are afraid of perjury. 300 priests have appeared before me, but I have not told them what their loan shall be, lest they should be dissatisfied and draw in others to the dissatisfaction. It would be better to appoint collectors to levy the sums in two or three deaneries at once, and not assemble great multitudes. No man will contribute to the loan without the King's writing; therefore nothing can be done till the privy seals are ready. I have caused the farmers of those who were sick or absent to appear before me. Against those who have benefices in other dioceses, and so removed before the time of the loan, I cannot use the censures of the Church, as that belongs to the ordinary in whose diocese they are. Otford, 13 Aug. Signed.
13 Aug.
R. O.
4632. TH. LUCAS to WOLSEY.
Was appointed by Wolsey to levy the arrears of the King's loan. Great sums have since been paid to the treasurer of the King's chamber, but much more is due. Supposes Wolsey does not mean to sess the lords, knights and other great men in the King's wars, but the commissioners should account for the sums they have received. Sends "a boke" for privy seals to be directed to them, and the names of those not sessed. Understands Wolsey means to send Sir John Dauncy and baron Hales to Calais to view the King's lands and revenues. The late King was informed that he was deceived in his revenues by the treasurer and controller of Calais, and commissioned Sir Gilbert Talbot, his deputy, to inquire; but what was found was not certified, in consequence of the King's decease. Lucas received a letter and instruction about this matter at the time, which he forwards for Wolsey's guidance. Sends an exemplification under the Exchequer seal of the process against John Grewrode, Herman Ryng, and Coort van Elsik, merchants of the Steelyard, who were fined 680l. for carriage over sea of woollen cloths unbarbed, unrowed, and unshorn, with a bill of instruction and a forfeited recognisance of 20,000l. by the whole body of the Steelyard, and their surety, one Bukberd, then a customer of London, in 20,000l., which was also exemplified under the Exchequer seal, "and by me delivered in Hilary Term, anno 24to, to Hugh Denys." Proceedings on these cases were respited by the King, to be put in execution if the then Emperor or his subjects "misordered themselves." Delivered a copy to Wolsey long ago. Would not have troubled Wolsey with writing, but after waiting to speak to him since the end of the term till Wednesday last he was always told Wolsey had no leisure, and meantime his wife had died, so he had to go home. Saxham, 13 Aug.
P. 1. Add.: To my lord Cardinal's grace.
14 Aug.
R. O.
Number of the persons who died with the plague, or otherwise, in the city of London, from 5 to 12 Aug. Also, of the parishes clear from the infection.
ii. Similar list for the 14th Aug.
Pp. 10. Endd.: "So appeareth there be dead within the city of London, of the plague and otherwise, from the 6th day of this month of August to the 14th day, which be 8 days complete, the full number of 152 persons. And this day se'night your mastership shall be certified of the number that shall chance to depart in the meantime. Yours, as I am bound, John Champeneys."
14 Aug.
R. O.
Since he wrote last the finers at Gaytsyd have "put your coining in exercise," but the furnace would not hold the metals, which ran out on every side. They ask for a new one, made of a whole stone, which he has allowed them to make, thinking that as "my Lord's grace" has spent so much, it is well to spend a little more, to see the uttermost of their cunning, and if this fail, then to cease further expenditure. Will send a final report after Michaelmas. Thanks him for taking so much trouble in his causes. The Chancellor will not yet comply with his desire in the said causes, but Bellassis hopes, with Cromwell's help, to bring them to a good pass. Tynmouth, 14 Aug.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: To, &c., Mr. Thomas Cromwell.
16 Aug.
R. O.
Has no news to write, except that this matter of my lord of Ossory's deputation is determined. Is not quite sure whether the father or the son is to have the dignity. Thinks it is the father, but Aylmer himself will sooner learn the truth. They have a grant to hold a Parliament, and to have many resumptions, "with other matters, as ye know before many of their crakes, I fear not most expedient for the commonweal of the country." Begs Aylmer to inform him of the truth, "and peradventure such a clyte may be cast in their tail that they shall not come to all their purpose this seven years;" and that if any folk have complaint against them for extortion or other misdemeanors they need not fear to put it forward, "and the sooner the better, for causes that I know." Begs Aylmer to let no man know of this, unless he wish to show his mind to James Cusake. Islenton, the morrow of the Assumption of Our Lady.
Begs him to burn this bill. (fn. 1)
Hol., p. 1. Add.: To his worshipful cousin, the Justice Aylmer, give these. With speed. From London, &c.
17 Aug.
[Cal. E. I. II. ?] I. 148. B. M.
Has received his letters concerning the property of Madame de Vendosme here, stating that she claims (se p[retend]) some interest in it. As to the goods to which she succeeded by the death of Mons. de Ravestain, De Barres presented while in France "la main levée de l'Empereur," but could not obtain in return that of the French king for the property of the prince of Orange, which they said they would send to Madame by the [sieur] De la Hargerye, who has not brought it, and consequently Madame does not yet enjoy her own. As soon as the prince of Orange is satisfied by France, the same will be done here for Madame. His mistress does not mean to do wrong, but to follow Wolsey's letter. As to the other property of Madame de Vendosmes, which Madame has confiscated in recompense for her county of Cha[rolois] and the salt stores, she intends to observe the form of the truce, which is that the party which has received more of the goods of the other shall make restitution. ... "ce Monsieur, pour plus satisfaire a ladite dame a ca ... a fait poursuyr de jouyr du revenu des biens ... le prince d'Oranges a tenu d'elle pardeça pour reco[mpense] ... en France, depuis la publication du traicte de ... jusques au jour de la tresve, madite dame ma maistresse a este contente encoires qu'il n'en soit fait men ... tresve et que les dits biens soyent meilleurs que [ceulx dudit] prince d'Orange, que faysant joyr icelluy sieur p ... revenu des siens pour ledit temps, elle en joysse a ... qu'elle desire." [Sends] a copy of the agreement between la Hargerie and a councillor (conse[iller]) of Madame de Vendosmes. Malines, 17 Aug.
Hol., pp. 2, Fr., mutilated.
17 Aug.
Vesp. C. IV. 253. B. M.
Extracts from letters of Silvester Darius, dated Madrid, 12 Aug.
At last got permission to see the Emperor. On asking him for a resolution, he replied that he had not yet read the articles given him by Darius, being fatigued by his journey; that they were in Latin, which he did not understand, and he had ordered them to be translated into French; besides, his chancellor and Lashau were absent. He desired universal peace, and was willing to postpone the French king's defiance for the good of Christendom. He thought the proceedings at Burgos might form a foundation. Asked him whether he made a difficulty as to the conditions or the methods. He said the former. Answered that Wolsey had said nothing about the conditions, because he supposed the Emperor was always contented with what had once contented him. He replied that he had then protested that if the matter was not concluded he would not afterwards acquiesce. Said he was not asked to acquiesce as if bound to do so, but as a kindness. He laughed, and said he would not absolutely deny that he would agree to the conditions, but he would see the articles, and then answer. Recollected that he had some suspicion of fraud, and told him that all possible faith and sincerity would be used. Alemand refused Darius's request for letters from the Emperor to the governor of Fontarabia to allow Darius's letters to pass, as the Emperor thought he ought not to write without a resolution, and he was hourly expecting the Franciscan General from Rome; and in two or three days after his arrival, Darius should be despatched, even if the Chancellor had not come. The Chancellor is said to be ill with gout, and is coming hither a league a day, being very desirous of seeing the Emperor before he dies.
He (the Emperor) has said nothing about the divorce, and seems to hope that it will not proceed. Thinks it would be well to defer Campeggio's arrival in England until the conclusion of peace, as the Emperor cannot be ignorant of the intention of his coming, and may procrastinate about the peace until he sees how the divorce ends. If the Spanish nobles hear of it, they may incite the Emperor to war. The whole of Spain is displeased about the divorce. Madrid, 17 Aug. 1528.
The Emperor objected to ratify the truce, thinking it too long, but he will probably do so. Alemand desired him to ask Wolsey to obtain a safe-conduct for the return of Marigny, who came hither with Darius.
The Emperor told the bishop of Pistoja that he does not desire peace, except with the conditions of the treaty of Madrid, and he will never trust the French king. The Bishop asked him if he trusted the king of England. He said he did as long as the King does not send away the Queen. The Bishop says also that he praises the king of England much. Alemand says that Darius will carry back peace. It is thought here that Wolsey has written to blame the French king for sending the challenge. The Imperial ambassador in England labors for peace, and writes honorably of the King and Wolsey. When the Emperor knew that a safe-conduct was not sent to his herald, he thought it was owing to Wolsey, and it is greatly approved of by those who desire peace.
Andrea Doria's man has not yet gone, and is waiting for money. It is wonderful that the Emperor does not send him off.
Lat., Vannes' hand, pp. 4.
18 Aug.
R. O.
The merchants had already left London for the mart at Antwerp; so it was not possible to alter their coming. Has made overtures to the company of merchants here, respecting the King and Wolsey's wish for their going to the town of Barrow, which they admit, and will perform the same. (fn. 2) They have had a very slack market at Antwerp. Their cloth, tin and lead remain yet unsold. After All Hallows the mart at Barrow will begin, to which they will repair. They wish to have from you knowledge of what will be done for their security.† Isselstein and the margrave of Fryse have been at war with Gueldres, and done the Duke much harm. They have laid siege to Tyne; but, in consequence of a suspicion of treason, will proceed no further this year. Has been well entertained. Intends to stay, to put the affairs of the merchants in good order. Antwerp, 18 Aug. 1528.
Hol., pp. 3. Add. Endd.
18 Aug.
Vit. B. XX. 161. B. M.
Has written ... what was doing where they are, and what out of Fr[ance] ... "quas litteras Antuerpiam in ædes Anglic[anas delatas fuisse] existimo; quod si est factum, meum obsequendi [desiderium] R. V. Paternitati satis testatum confido. Postea autem non ... quidem turbulentarum apud nos extitit. De quibus ... posset, exempla litterarum ex quibus principia nu ... transmisi. Comparaverant exercitum Princeps Sax[oniæ et] Lantgravius minime contemnendum. Nec dubium est qu[in] ... [instru]ctissimorum equitum et peditum milia amplius decem con ... Et jam ad invadendam ditionem episcopi Moguntinensis ... et Bambergensis accingebantur, quod dicerent se vivi ab ... vicim essent potissime metuere. Et quia haberent compertum ... Ferdinando et Marchione Brande-pyrgensi electore episcop ... Georgio Saxonum, et fratribus Bavariæ ducibus contra se ... Et sibi ab illis, nisi provideant, imminere certissime exitium Lute[ranorum] nomine, quod antevertere protectione et armis depellere, optimo si ... Atque hæc cum exemplis conjurationis ad principes et civitates Reg ... Ipsi tamen interea pacem et pacis conditiones, illis quos supra ... episcopis, quos primos sibi statuerant impetendos detulerunt. Itaq[ue Comes] Palatinus Rheni, et Treverensis episcopus, medios sese offeren[tes] ... [tolera]bilibus conditionibus composuerunt. Et quia maximo sumptu L[antgravius] exercitum collegerat, ab episcopis centum milia aureorum exacta ... illorum sumptum parte levaretur, sed Saxonum dux de ea tum ... maximarum profecto calamitatum metus beneficio Magni Dei leviter. ... Nam si ita hæc tempestas, ut inhorruerat, desævisset, nihi[l minus] fuerat quam totius Germanicæ nationis eversio. Illi quorum nomi[na] ... tionis exemplis posita fuerant, quomodo suam causam publici ... placuit V.R.P. simul transmittere. Quæ omnia, quo n ... R.V.P. melius probarem, curaturus fueram in Latinam sed neque arbitrabar hoc heri necesse esse, neque tabellarii ... Ex Italia quotidie certiora de reditu earum copiarum ... milia Brunsuicensis dux, et Marcus Sittichus ... asseruntur. Neque quicquam ab iis memorabile ... diam expugnare aggressi * * * Sed nescio quomodo serius accepta sit, quam ut ... sua nos benignitate miratur, ne Christiani sanguinis pro[fusio] ... jurias cædes gliscat, sed ut concordia et pax ad ipsius [rogatum] eis restituatur.
"De Turca quod ad Pannonas attinet ... o septem castrorum jam diu profundum silentium est. Quosdam tamen ... er Illyricum incursionem fecisse in fines ditionis regis Ferdi[nandi] quam Carinthiam nominant et juxta oppidum Labacum magnam multitudinem hominum et jumentorum abegisse accepimus. Apud nos comitia intra menses adhuc duos futura putantur."
Balthasar de Waldkyrch, the Emperor's vice-chancellor, has been sent into Germany lately on these and other matters. He arrived at Nuremberg on the 7th Aug. The Emperor demands,—(1) aid against the enemies of the empire by the Germans; (2) decision on the innovations and dissensions in religion by some person authorized by them, and reform as far as can be effected. The aid is not asked "nominatim;" but in these things, and in all, the Germans have overwhelmingly shown their zeal, obedience and promptitude to the Emperor. The Legate came to Ferdinand, 10 Aug.
It remains to tell Wolsey of his success with the metals, touching which he received Wolsey's commands. The first give no hope of copper or silver. The second, "metalla fusa," ditto. The third metals give no silver, but 35 lb. of copper. Blown, they yield 1½ oz. of silver. The fourth, "metalla fusa," are void of silver. The fifth, "metalla plumbi," have no silver, but give 58 lb. of lead out of 100 lb. The sixth, "spissa metalla et gilva," give 1 oz. of silver out of 100 lb. The seventh, "metalla," in 100 lb. yield 56 lb. of lead, ... 1½ oz. and 2 drachms of silver. [The eighth in] 100 lb. give 57½ lb. of ... but yield no silver.
Has found a man very expert in these things, who might be of great use to the King. "In explorandis metallis ... laudatus. Is meis sermonibus adduc[tus] ... tamen constituit ut [aie]bam, in Brit[anniam] ... autem mercedis nomine et in universos ... linquat, singulis diebus septem, Anglos tres ... initia postulat ad viaticum Anglos quadragi[nta] ... Rhenenses. De quo quid me R.V.P. facere u ... ut pro illius voluntate omnia transigam. Quantum ... impenderim proximis literis V.R.P. significabo ... quæ Regiæ Majestatis nomine exposui, quæ simul omn ... mittam. V. R. Ptas si quid mihi rescribere bene dignat[ur] ... literas miserit in ædes Anglicas Antuerpiam, unde ... istic rerum procuratores ad me perferentur. Ego me ... commendo. Norimbergæ," 15 cal. Sept. Signed.
Hol., pp. 3. Add. "R. in Christo patri," &c. "D. Thomæ Card. Archiepiscopo E[bor.] legato A[ngliæ]."
18 Aug.
R. O.
Has received his letter by the ambassador here resident. As the matter was of a nature that could not be determined without due consultation, referred it to the Emperor's council with her. The Council has given a reply to the English ambassador. Begs he will take it in good part, and not ask anything which is unreasonable. Mechlin, 18 Aug. 1528. Signed and sealed.
Fr., p. 1. Add. Endd.
Cal. D. X. 232. B. M. 4641. [CLERK to WOLSEY.]
* * * "... and conjectures ... t they must study ... [a]rmy there, which doing ... [not]withstanding, I am but raw ... as I shall here so I shall advertise [your Grace, and thus] Almighty God preserve your Grace. From ... Sunday night.
P.S., in his own hand.—The French king is lusty as I h[ear] ... the one of his cheeks is not yet ... is somewhat higher than the other [and this causes an] impediment in his speech."
Cal. D. X. 201. B. M. 4642. [CLERK and TAYLER to WOLSEY.]
"[A]fter our most humble recommenda[tions, please it your Grace to] understand that yesterday we spa[ke with the King at Fontaine]bleaulx after his dinner, his Ma[jesty] ... as singular good liking as ever, w ... and mouth clean, without spot or ble[mish] ... is not yet clearly returned for the ... his upper teeth before, but with proc ... to his perfection, whereof there lacketh ... His Majesty after salutations shewy[d us that the] air here hath profited him unto his [health. He spoke unto] us of his building, which surely is ve[ry fair and] commodious, and after a little communication he told us that, thanked be God, the King's hig[hness] and his affairs went well forwards ... he remembered often times what your [Grace said unto] him at your being at Amyas, where [you told] him that when that he should have [by marriage] allied himself with the King's highness [his affairs] should prosper and go well forwar[ds. And he said your] Grace told him truth, for ever since [that period] his affairs have right well pr[ospered. He also spoke to] us of the money lately sent r ... [and said he was] obliged unto the King's high[ness and unto your Gr]ace, for being so good * * * ... d answering such letters as h[e had written to [the Pope's Holi]nes concerning the King's matter ... should be sent unto your Grace.
"[As for Cervia] and Ravenna, if it might be brought [about that the V]enetians would put those cities in de[fence] ... he would not fail but incontinently [restore them into] the Pope's hands, and that to induce the Ve[netians there]unto he would do all that should lie in him ... [and] also that the matters of Italy, proceeding as they [did, he] doubted not but that some good demonstration s[hould] proceed from the Pope, also concerning the common a[ffairs].
"From the Emperor he showed us that by divers w[ays he] is advertised that the Emperor now doth nothing [else but] consult where he may find sure harness for th[e duel, an]d that the Emperor might be deceived though h[e w]er never so sure, for the Emperor must appoint the [time an]d the place, but how and wherewith they shall fi[ght, he] said that the choice thereof was in himself. [He said] that albeit he for his honor could do no less than answer the Emperor with the cartel, as he did, yet he kn[ew well] enough that the thing was never likely to ta[ke effect] and that the default thereof should rest on t[he] ... [of the par]tye who should not lightly mow ... for the camp. He * *
"[As touchi]ng to the cartel, he said ... refused to come upon this saulf-[conduct] ... a sign that he hath in his m ... appointment of any camp acco[rding] ... rather some new cartell or some ... whereunto the French king said ... further audience. Of Naples h ... Mons. de Vadymont was departed th[is life, and he] greatly lamented his death; howbeit [the duke] of Lorraine, his brother, knew nothing th[ereof] unto such time as it should be confirmed [by Mons. de] Lautrec's letters, for it was not yet know[n] ... from Florence. Item, whereas lately [he had sent to] Mons. de Lautrec 110,000 crowns, ... [being] advertised thereof issued in a great ... almost taken the said money, had ... better rescued, and how that at th ... was taken by the Spaniards, Count H ... a captain of the Florentines' fote[men] ... taken by our part a couple of capit[ains] ... of the Emperor's party; howbeit he [said that he knew not their] names. Of Lombardy, he she[wed unto us] that there was already depart[ed] ... 5,000 or 6,000 of the p ... * * * duke of Bronswyke, had ... s to pass with his company m ... us to see a copy of the letter, and s[end the same] unto your Grace. We spake also with my [Lady, whose communic]ation was much of like matters, and [full of your Highne]sses goodness toward the King her son ... ly he and she reckoned themselves obliged [unto the King's hig]hnes for the same, and likewise unto your G[race, to] whose good endeavor she attributeth a great p[art of] all their good fortune, wherein she rejoiced moc[he, as] she did also in the recovery of the King her son [to] health, showing unto us that she reckoned him [to be a]s clear from all diseases as ever he was, and [that it] is half a miracle to see him as he now is ... [in co]mparison of that he was seven or eight weeks ago ... [s]he desired us to recommend her unto your Grace, a[nd to d]esire and pray your Grace on her behalf that y[our Grace w]old vouchsafe now to give the King her son [your best adv]ise and counsel what is now further to be do[ne] ... this retire of the lanceknights in Lombardy ... ally upon such good success as hourly is l[ooked for at] Naples. She showed us also of a letter w[ritten] ... [fro]m the Pope of his own hand, in the [which] ... er like and conform u[nto] * * * he shall see his Holiness as ... n the one so also do well in al ... that the poor Pope, while the ... were in Italy, and in likelyhood ... in fear, and durst do nothing ... fear of those lanceknights by t ... ceased; she said she trusted to h[ave your advice] in all their matters, specially in ... which she said the King her son ... then he did any other his particular ... good and as affectionate words as could ... it should seem at this present time th ... the Pope in better opinion and somew[hat] ... his causes than they have done in time [past. The] Great Master hath been very sore a[crased] ... first, for that your Grace complaineth of ... Bayonne of letters sent by Ichyngham, w ... that it shall never be proved that ... or any other sent thither by Ichyng[ham] ... and that the Governor of Bayonne ... not do it for his life; and that ... such a purgation of that mat[ter] ... he knoweth right well, it sha[ll] ... touching this matter we ... letters from master Sylv[ester Darius] * * * [Ichyn]gham. Another matter ... [ver]y sore with us was that your Gr[ace] ... words unto Mons. de Bayona ... [Gr]eat Master in some point should [have taken] some thing otherwise than well concer[ning] ... meaning as though your Grace should [have been] informed of him by some envious person [(althou]gh he would not speak it) peradventure, also ... we showed him that as touching us ... [letter]es of all ambassadors in the Court be seen, if [in any other m]annys letters were spoken more honor of him then [in ours] that then we would lose our heads. We showed hy[m also] that we knew your Grace so well, that we durs[t venture] our heads that there was no such matter, and t[hat Mo]nsieur de Bayonne misunderstood your Grace. We s[aid also t]hat we knew for a surety that your Grace lovy[d a]nd favoured him of all men in France, a[nd] ... ke him, and desired him not to think the contr[ary. He] sware great oaths that your Grace was the parson ... of all creatures living, after both princes h[e honored and lov]yd and ought his service unto, and that if [he had thought] that this matter were of that importance [he would not] fail but send some trusty friend of [his thither]e to make his purgation; and ... tongue out of his head." * *
.. Aug. Cal. D. X. 210. B. M. 4643. [CLERK and TAYLER] to WOLSEY.
"[Please it] your Grace there is not a ... [th]en the Great Master is, nor ... cannot be a person more devo[ted unto your] Grace than he is, nor that ha[th spoken better things] of you, not only in our presence ... from whence it hath comen to o[ur] ... his procuring. It is truth that [he being] ... of counsaill, we have found him [not alway so conven]able to our demands as we have ce ... wherein egit personam suam, for being [chief of the] counsaill here, and having the whole ... it was his part to stick, which the ... somewhat too much, (as in our opinion) u ... stomach trusting upon successes; ho[wbeit] ... malitiæ, sed magnitudini animi, cui ... potius venia danda est, quam expectand[a est vel] exigenda maturitas senilis consilii ... think that upon any our letters wherein mention hath been made, your Grace ... to impute any matter unto him in ... manner. In good faith the man ... and in manner, if we ourself ... displeasure, we could take ... than he doth, therefore ... our ... communication ... Grace, that ye be as ... ye in such your fortune ... ving of his degree." Fontayn [le Bleauxe] ... Aug.
Mutilated. Add.: To my lord Legate's good Grace.
19 Aug.
Cal. D. X. 204. B. M.
4644. CLERK and [TAYLER] to WOLSEY.
* * *
"... that forasmuch ... [o]f the 3rd of this month w[e wrote of the d]eparture of the cardinal Camp[egius] ... hither to the Legate and divers pe[ople] ... by Sir Gregory Casalis, we made no [scruple to ask the] French king for his galleys, ne sp ... confirmation of the truce for ... there had been a gentleman sent hence ... the same. The news now here be ... [of a] surety the Cardinal Campegius is arry[ved] ... in Savoya, out of all danger both se ... [the] Legate here showeth me that he hath this [day letters from] Lyons, dated there the 14th day of this [month, and that he thinks the] said Cardinal is by this time undoubty[dly] ... or on this side Lyons hitherwards, so that [we expect] your Grace shall have him at Calais, within ... days at the farthest. This day we we[re again] with my Lady. They both rejoiced much in ... report of such kind and loving affect ... of theirs who came lately from your Grace ... had reported that he had found ... and also in your Grace towards them ... much bound unto you both for the ... us of the arrival of my lord ... Nyece, in Savoya, and how ... [c]onduct him and to * * * ... for fear of him a ... es, but all that they can m ... [s]hall be ready to do the King's hig[hness service] ... whose affairs they say they [will repute no othe]rwise than they do their own, confe[ssing that of c]ongruence they ought so to do, seeing that [the King's highnes]s esteemeth and taketh their affairs a[s his own.] The news from all parts be old and of sma[ll account, but th]e King showed us that the last letters from M[ilan] be of the 15th of the last month. Howbeit there [have come] other of his camp of the 23rd, containing n[o other] thing but only the confirmation of the safe a[rrival] of the money last thither sent, not without some d[ifficulty], as your Grace hath heard; also the recovery of M[onsieur de] Lautrec, who had been sore vexed with a fever, a[nd of Mons.] de Vademont, who was here noised to have been [dead]. The duke of Bromswyke was yet still in Myla[n, and was as ill] contented with the Emperor as any man could be. [He said the] lanceknights imperial were all departed, th[at] ... said Duke and Ant. de Leva both of them tog[ether ha]d not there remaining with them old and new ... [pa]ssing the number of 2,000 lanceknights, where ... [th]e said Anthony de Leva had before the said ... in Italy 3,000 lanceknights with him ... touching Andrea Doria the ... speration of him * * * ... his hands of the ... ande with other like be so hyg ... thought that the Emperor and An[drea] ... all, or not so soon agree upon th ... cause and because also they h ... John Joachym whom they sent [into Italy] ... to the said Andrea Doria they be ... howbeit as in no great hope h[e will fore]cast the worst, and provide for the ... [The news of] Spain here is nothing, but that th ... to Madrill both the King and ... have now right good opinion that ... will now deal faithfully, uprightly and ... the King's highness in his matter. Th ... in very hearty and gentle manner rec ... unto your Grace. Surely the goodness of this ... the prince resteth in him. There is none [that] desireth more to be in your Grace's fav[or] than he doth, ne that take it more [hardly to be] out of the same. He hath eftsoons ... for the matter we wrote unto your Gra[ce] ... wherein we doubt not but either ... or else by such communication as ... de Bayonne, some thing shall ... for surely the m ... * * * ... you of him, whereof ... were it not that he both ... e as much as he doth any man ... [r]eason that your Grace should somwh[at] ... doubt not but your Grace will. As f[or his s]lackness in sending the confirmation ... [ther]eunto he answered nothing, nisi quod bo[nus aliquando do]rmitat Homerus, that he himself was ... [a]nd desired your Grace therefore to take it paci[ently] ... the King his master's ministers in setting f[orth] ... master's matters were not always the quykk[est] ... 19 Aug." Signed: "Your Grace is most h[umble] chapleyns and ser[vants],
Jo. Batoni[ensis].
[J. Tayler]." (fn. 3)
Mutilated. Add.: To my lord Legate's good Grace.
R. O. 4645. CLERK to [WOLSEY].
"Master Dean (fn. 4) dothe well and gothe to his boke very well." His expenses are excessive by reason of "reasort," which cannot now be eschewed. Wolsey must either increase his exhibition, remove him to some other study, or put him to commons in some other man's house. They all think the last plan best, under color of his learning French.
Hol., p. 1. Endd.: A clause of a letter of my lord of Bath concernyng the dene of Wellis.
19 Aug.
R. O.
Master Dean* has more maturely debated his affairs with the wise men about him; in whose advice Clerk concurs, and thinks that now Master Dean may right well continue with such exhibition as Wolsey lately appointed. The fault was only a little evil husbandry in keeping his house, "wherein it is no marvel though scholars be not so shortly expert; but now they have learned. And your Grace will be so good unto them as to let them begin now the year, and abolishing the time past, to let them begin a new year, all woll be well enough, and that that is past shall be a good learning unto them. Surely the living here is very chargeable." Paris, 19 Aug.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: To my lord Legate's good grace. Endd.: Concerning the dean of Wells.
20 Aug.
R. O.
Begs the living of Sonderych for Barlow, the bearer, on the promotion of Dr. Allen to Dublin. Pensherst, 20 Aug.
Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd.
Love Letters, VII. 4648. HENRY VIII. to ANNE BOLEYN.
Has got her a lodging by my lord Cardinal's means, such as could not have been found hereabouts "for all causes," as the bearer will explain. Nothing more can be done in our other affairs, nor can all dangers be better provided against, so that I trust it will be hereafter to both our comforts; but I defer particulars, which would be too long to write, and not fit to trust to a messenger till your repair hither. I trust it will not be long "to-fore" I have caused my lord your father to make his provisions with speed.
20 Aug. (fn. 5)
Le Grand, III. 157.
The day Wolsey and I had our discussion we kept looking at each other sideways. Next day we were great friends, and he told me a long story of all he had done against the opinion of all England, and of what he was determined still to do, saying he required to use a terrible alchemy and dexterity in his affairs, for there were men who watched him so narrowly that they would take the first opportunity of calumniating him as being too strong a partizan of France;—that if his influence were diminished it would not be well for us, and that we should weigh well what he could honorably do, and not expect too much of him, for he could show Francis that this amity was by no means to his disadvantage, and Wolsey cared more for him than for any one but his master; that he was always ready to hear suggestions, and give his advice, either for the common good of both Kings, or of either of them; and that if better reasons are given him than those advanced by himself he will yield to them. He talked a whole day with me in this style, walking about his park, and hardly got any further. Another day he sent for me thither again, and declared his satisfaction at the confidence shown by Francis in not desiring any other surety for the contribution but his word; and after discussing other matters, part of which I shall mention presently, for about two hours, he spoke of you, commending most highly your devotedness to Francis,—then touched upon the news of Italy, and the danger it would be to Francis to lose all his allies through him, if they were not compelled at this time to shut themselves up with him by reason of the great forces there are at present, and various other things which he has already said to Morette. He said he had a fixed and rooted friendship to you, because you were so well inclined to the amity of these two Princes, of which he hoped to be a firm pillar while he lived; but he was much concerned to hear that you had used language a little unfriendly to him, while, for his own part, if you were his brother he could not have greater regard for you. I made such assurances on your part as I might, and tried to ascertain what was the matter (le menu que c'estoyt), but could learn nothing further. At last I said I knew long ago, and for certain, that when it was a question about the despatch of Silvester, my lord of Bath was so unreasonable and so angry that I should not wonder if one so devoted as you to the interests of his master expressed yourself a little unwontedly; but that I could answer for your entire affection for him. He told me he could say nothing further about it, and would not have mentioned it at all but for the great friendship he bore me. Has tried since to discover from what quarter this wind came. Suspects it was from the Chancery. (fn. 6) It is certainly not owing to anything that has passed through my hands, but I know many things leak out from thence in the packets of my lord of Bath, and I assure you nothing is said or done at the (French) court but they soon know it here.
Mademoiselle Boulan has returned to court. The intercepted letters that you sent me about this matter have disquieted them (leur ont donné à penser). I have been told, in reference to what I wrote to you had been said to Wolsey more than a month ago, that I am a bad prophet. I fancy that the King is so far committed to it that none but God can get him out of it (que le Roy en est si avant, qu'aultre que Dieu ne l'en sçauroit oster). As to Wolsey, I do not believe he knows the state of matters (où il en est), however much he pretends to do so. I have been told on good authority, though I do not give it as certain, that, a little before this sweat, the King used most terrible language to him, because he seemed desirous to cool him, and shew him that the Pope would not consent to it. Sometimes in walking with me, while he spoke of his affairs, and of the course of his life up to that time, he has said to me that if God permitted him to see the hatred of these two nations extinguished and firm amity established, as he hopes it will shortly be, with a reform of the laws and customs of the country, such as he would make if peace came, and an assurance of the succession, especially if this marriage took place, and an heir male came of it, that he would then retire, and serve God to the end of his days, and that undoubtedly he would take the first opportunity to abandon politics. I think he sees that if this marriage is accomplished he will have much to do to maintain his influence; and when he sees himself in despair of it, he will give out that he retires voluntarily, "guarny de ce qu'il debvra estre;" and, in fact, for these three months past he has been building and administering in his bishoprics, and completing his colleges with great diligence. I think his idea was, if this divorce took place, that he would fall back upon Madame Renée. At all events, I see that it will take place if nothing else happens; but I see little hope of peace coming from this side, for the Emperor suffering this injury I do not think he will accept it through their means, and perhaps you will see that he will tell Silvester that he will come to the said peace at the request of his uncle, if he will give up this purpose. Thus I think Wolsey will do all he can for Francis in good earnest. His great difficulty is that he knows his master to be the most avaricious man in the world, "et le vray moyen de l'avoir mis en credit, ce fut, comme sçavez, de luy dire qu'il le remettoyt en laye." Thus it is we must talk of expence (the Devil is in it!), for he will have to persuade him that all he does for you is for his own profit, especially as the rest of the Council are won over to the Emperor, both by natural inclination and out of opposition to him. He has, as you know, much influence, but the more he has the more he fears to lose it; and if he cannot show the King that he is doing every thing to enrich him, he will have lost a great defence. I think if he could have agreed with me honorably for the beginning of June he would have done it; but the King, as I imagine, meaning otherwise, he has reserved for himself this defence of his own private profit. You must also remember that though he leads the Council, whatever is once past he will never revoke it (ce qui est une fois passé, pour rien il ne viendra à l'encontre); and I doubt if he would dare, for if he were once to stumble there are plenty on the watch to pick him up (relever). Part of these things I have said to Morette.
20 Aug.
Galba, B. IX. 177. B. M.
Since he last wrote has received two letters from him, dated the 4th and 5th. Has delivered the King's letters patent, and two of Wolsey's, to my Lady, in presence of the cardinal of Liege, lord Berghes, Mons. de Palermo, the chancellor of Brabant, the treasurer and receiver general, and other lords. After my Lady had read the letters, declared his credence. She answered that there should be no fault in lady Vendosme's business. Has delivered Wolsey's letters to Lassaux and De Barris, and encloses their answers. De Barris wished Hackett to write that there is no need for Wolsey to show the Emperor's ambassador that he has written so amply, for my Lady has written to the ambassador to bid him deliver to Wolsey a copy of the accord, which De Barris incloses. To Hackett's request for the delivery of Harman and Akerston, she said it was a heavy matter, and she would deliberate with her council. Today she has asked for a declaration of how they have committed treason. Answered that by the acts of intercourse the King's letters were sufficient declaration. My lord of Palermo then said that it was necessary to know the particular offences. After much debate they granted that the prisoners should be kept till he can advertise the King.
The people of Antwerp make great petitions for Harman, saying that as he has been burgess for many years, he ought to be exempt from the subjection of England. Thinks the King had better send some person to be joined in commission with Hacket, with instructions on the matter, or else that Wolsey should ask the Emperor to write to my Lady. Does not think there will be much difficulty about delivering Akreston. Encloses a letter from my Lady.
Supposes Wolsey has heard how my lord of Burre, with the Emperor's army, besieged Tylle, and were compelled to retreat. The margrave of Antwerp has told him secretly that the town will in no wise suffer Harman to be taken away till he has been convicted by the justice of the town, but they do not care about Akreston. These matters cannot be managed without money, and it would be better for Wolsey to give money there to be paid here, than to take it up here to be paid there. Machlyng, 20 Aug. 1528.
De Reux has returned from Spain with a number of ill-ordered Spaniards, some say 2,000. Thinks they will be sent to Gueldreland to fight with the cold, for winter is coming.
Hol., pp. 5. Add. Endd.
20 Aug.
R. O.
He may write to the Cardinal in England that he has received the letters written by him to Will. des Barres and Jean de la Saulx. Those of La Saulx have been presented, but not yet those of Des Barres. Touching the affairs of the duchess of Vendôme of which Wolsey wrote, La Saulx replies that they are in good train. She has sent the baily of Hen and Mons. de Hargerye, and they are only waiting the consent of France. 20 Aug.
Fr., p. 1. Endd. by Hackett: "1528. Answer fro Mestre Jehan de la Saux touchyng my Lady Vandome ys bessenys."
20 Aug.
R. O.
Confirmation by the King of the bull of Clement VII., exempting the college from the jurisdiction of the ordinary. Westm., 20 Aug. 20 Hen. VIII.
Lat., vellum. Great Seal attached. A beautiful miniature of the King, the royal supporters, &c., with an architectural column by the side of the initial letter, and an angel bearing the letters "H. R."


  • 1. See 3 March 1529.
  • 2. Ticked in the margin by Wolsey.
  • 3. Tayler's signature is entirely lost by the mutilation of the MS.
  • 4. Winter.
  • 5. So dated by Le Grand in the margin at the head of the letter; but no date appears in the letter itself.
  • 6. "qu'il vienne devers (qu. de devers?) la Chancellerie.