Henry VIII: April 1529, 21-25

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Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 4, 1524-1530. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1875.

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April 1529

21 April.
R. O. St. P. VII. 164.
Regrets that, in consequence of his illness, he could not give the King's ambassadors an audience.
Has not been able to satisfy the King's wishes as expressed by them, although he has sought to do so night and day, and taken the best lawyers to his counsel. Would be glad if he could do what the King desires. Cannot declare the brief of Julius false without hearing both sides, considering his position and responsibility to God. Must act according to justice, as he will learn further from Campeggio. Rome, 21 April 1529.
P.S. in his own hand: Has not written to the King in his own hand, as he is not yet convalescent. Begs the King to believe that he is very anxious to oblige him. Signed with a J.
Lat., vellum. Add. Endd.
21 April.
R. O. St. P. VII. 165.
Cannot forget his services to the Holy See, and will be glad to oblige him and the King. Is using all methods for so doing, and has commanded Jerome bishop of Vaison, whom he has sent into Spain, to procure the brief to be transmitted to the Pope. It is not usual for the Pope to admonish the Emperor to that effect, as the English ambassadors desired. Rome, 21 April 1529.
P.S. in his own hand: Would have been glad to have gratified Wolsey and the King. Signed, J.
Lat., vellum. Add. Endd.
21 April.
R. O.
Besides other means of bringing the Pope to the King's purpose, has shown his Holiness apart "that which your Highness showed me in your gallery at Hampton Court concerning the solicitations of the princes of Almain," and other matters that ought to daunt him. He is a man who never resolves anything unless compelled by some violent affection; and, as Henry suspected, will do nothing to offend the Emperor, unless he be first determined to declare himself in favor of the King and Francis. This it would not be politic for him to do in the state of affairs here, unless the League proceed otherwise than they do, or the Pope determine to remove his see elsewhere. He is in great perplexity, and seems willing to gratify the King if he could, but, when it comes to the point, does nothing. Thinks he would be glad if the King's cause could be determined there by the legates; and if the Emperor made any suit against what shall be done there, they would serve him as they now do the King, and put off the time. There will be no security against this, unless Campeggio will frankly promise to give sentence in the King's favor; otherwise such delays will be found as this counterfeit brief has caused. Will endeavor to get the commission amplified, at least to the reprobation of the brief.
The King wonders, in his letters to Gardiner and his colleagues, that they make no mention of the bulls he was to procure. Thought this would have been explained by what they wrote of the Pope's sickness. Has not yet thought fit to mention it to the Pope, as it would interrupt the prosecution of the King's matter, except that he said a word to the Pope de ecclesiis cathedralibus, and his Holiness said nothing could be done until the cardinal S. Quatuor be recovered.
The only counsel they have yet engaged for the King are Dom. Michael and Dom. Sigismundus. The court is much deteriorated in learned men as in other things, and it is not every man that they can trust. As yet there has been no need to dispute openly. The Pope will hear no disputations as to his power of dispensing. He seems not to care himself whether the cause be decided by that article, or no, "so he did it not;" but it seems by his manner as if he was determined to meddle with it no more himself either way. Thinks if Campeggio would promise to give sentence frankly, Gardiner could say something to the purpose there (i.e. in England) "with such consultations as I should bring from hence." Master Gregory sends the promise made by the Pope touching the King's cause when Gardiner went to Venice. The first three words, viz., cum nos justiciam ejus causæ perpendentes, make more for the King's cause than if the commission decretal in Campeggio's hand were showed; and this the King will be at liberty to show. Requests that the payment of Master Gregory's diets may be made to his factors in England, for he lives here at great expence. Rome, 21 April.
Hol., pp. 5. Add. Endd.
21 April.
Porcacchi, p. 31.
I deferred sending to you till now the annexed letter, written some days ago, because the courier departed by mistake without waiting for it. Since then the English ambassadors have been constantly with the Pope, insisting with all possible earnestness on the King's desire. As the Pope is very anxious to satisfy him, it would be unnecessary to importune him so much if we had any means of complying with his wishes. But the demand which these ambassadors make is such that the Pope cannot satisfy them without great consideration. To find some means of executing the King's desire, the Pope has caused the cardinals Cesis and S. Quatuor and the auditor Simonetta to consult about the matter with all the learned persons in the court, in order to discover the means by which his Holiness could satisfy the King, to whom he is so greatly obliged. At length they have all come to the conclusion that they have no resource; that it would be contrary to all law, and conducive to the greatest scandal, if his Holiness, without first hearing the other party, should declare the brief to be null; and that it would be a very strange thing if the Pope had to give sentence in an uncertain matter. Therefore, being unable to do this, the Pope proposed to take the only step possible, that is, to write to the Emperor desiring him to send the original brief either to Rome or to England, where the Pope has committed the cause to you. But not even this offer of the Pope's was sufficient for these ambassadors, who, both on account of their King's desire, and because he is aware of the Pope's inclination to gratify him, demand more than his Holiness can do with justice. They wished the Pope to command the Emperor to produce the brief within a limited period, as otherwise it would be pronounced false,—imperious language, which it is not customary to use to any prince, much less to a most powerful Emperor, at whose mercy his Holiness finds himself. Even if the Pope had written such an imperious letter as the ambassadors desired, no more would have been done to compel the Emperor to send the brief than will be accomplished by writing in a more gentle manner.
As the ambassadors were not contented with the manner in which the Pope was able to write, they said they did not care about the brief to the Emperor, seeing that the Pope refused to write it in their form. Nevertheless, as his Holiness is desirous of satisfying the King in the course of justice, he will write about the brief, and give this very explicit commission to his maître d'hôtel—that he shall depart immediately for Spain, and use all his diligence to procure the production of the brief. Your Lordship, who understands as much of these matters as any of the Pope's councillors here, must see that, even if the Pope wished to do a thing opposed to reason, he could not act otherwise than he does,—not even were his own life concerned in the matter. It is therefore desirable that, whenever you find any desires arising there of such things as you feel sure the Pope cannot grant, you should deprive them of all hope, or leave them so little that it shall not appear strange when their desires are refused here. In short, I see in the Pope a great desire to please his Majesty; but these ambassadors are too vehement in seeking to obtain their demands, and no reasons, however forcible, are sufficient to quiet them. The Pope is very ill content with this, and thinks that a great wrong is done him when his intentions towards the King are suspected. Moreover, the words they use seem very unbecoming,—that if this be not done, great damage will arise from it to the Apostolic See; as if, even to gain the whole world, the Pope ought to do impossibilities; or as if what they menace would not rather prove to their own damage. I tell you how matters stands, in order that, for the love of God, you may divert these troubles (fastidij) from here.
The Pope is writing to the King, and would have liked to do so with his own hand, but at present he is not sufficiently relieved from the effects of his complaint. I send you a copy of the letter which asks credence for you in the matters of which I have written above. The Pope would not be displeased if the letters of the ambassadors should weaken the hope entertained there, for the less they anticipate the impossible things which they demand, the less will they be disappointed. Rome, 21 April 1529.
21 April.
R. O.
At last the Pope has resolved to send off to the Emperor the bishop of Vaison, his major-domo, in place of the nuncio, who is lately dead. There was a great dispute about the matter. At length it was resolved that he should tell the Emperor that the Pope would visit him, provided the galleys of Andrea Doria were delivered to him, and nothing was done to the detriment of his person or the Church; that his Holiness undertook this journey, not to prevent the coming of his Majesty into Italy, but rather to arrange public affairs, and settle a peace among Christian princes. The Bishop will leave in three days. News is come from the Emperor that he will be at Barcelona about the middle of April, because he understands that the kingdom of Naples is much disturbed. He will inform the Pope of his intentions. The merchants have received letters from Spain, stating that great preparations are in hand. The French and the Venetians are deluding each other. Orders came three months ago from France for the Milanese expedition. Arrangements were proposed for the contingents, but they cannot agree. The consequence was that when Ant. de Leyva heard of it, he put Milan in a state of defence. The French have no commander at Abruzzi, except the abbot of Farfa, who can do no good, and is so fickle that he is likely to go over to the Emperor. Other news of the proceedings in Italy. Francis has taken into his pay, to the great dislike of the Pope, Malatesta Balioni. News from Florence, of small consequence. The Florentines have attacked the palace, and rejected their Gonfalonier, asserting that he has conspired with the Pope. I have persuaded myself, and have been assured by Salviati a thousand times, that the Pope would never join the Emperor. Now I should not be surprised if he did, for the persecution of his friends and relatives will be a great incentive for him to do so. The French ought to prevail on the Florentines to restrain themselves. I have given the Pope's writing to Stephen Gardiner, to send to you. Rome, 21 April 1529. Signed.
Lat., pp. 5.
21 April.
R. O.
I sent a friend of mine, named Pietro Chiaveluti, to learn the state of affairs in Apulia. Gives a brief account of the country and its chief places. The Venetian leaders, De Vasto and others, can barely hold their own, but cannot do any injury to the Imperialists. Monopolis cannot easily be reduced. Between Abruzzi and Piceno there are 2,500 Germans. Rome, 21 April 1529. Signed.
Lat., pp. 2. Add and sealed. Endd.
21 April.
R. O.
Extracts from letters.
10 April.—So his Holiness up to the present time was not so anxious as now he is. He is perpetually tormented with a desire to satisfy the King, and has therefore entrusted the matter to De Monte, S. Quatuor, and Simonetta.
Elsewhere.—The Pope is in great trouble, as, having avoided one rock, he finds he has been dragged into greater difficulties, though he has protested to the King his willingness to oblige him in all respects. The Imperialists propose many objections, which they have not yet made public. As to the remark of your Eminence, that remedies are anxiously expected from here, we have them not in our power, and nothing has yet been proposed by the ambassadors in which we can acquiesce.
Elsewhere.—The objections which we hear against the Emperor's coming into Italy strengthen the Pope's wish of undertaking the journey, from which he expects great benefit to the peace, in consequence of the society and presence of the cardinal of York; and he is now extremely grieved to hear that he will not come until the King's cause is finished. Thus he thinks he is deprived of his expectation of peace, and the absence of Wolsey is like cutting off the Pope's right hand.
21 April.—As to your remark that they are not satisfied with the reply made by the Pope to the English ambassadors, more is asked than the Pope can grant. They would have had the Pope dictate to the Emperor for the production of the brief within a specified time, or to proceed summarily to sentence. Such a method of proceeding was never used with any prince, much less with the Emperor.
Elsewhere.—He has resolved that his nuncio with the Emperor shall treat for a truce, and if his hopes prove well founded, he will consider himself much indebted to God. If the Emperor consents he does not doubt the thing may be accomplished.
Lat., pp. 3. Endd.
21 April.
R. O. St. P. VII. 166.
You will learn by "your" (our) letters sent to Wolsey how often we have spoken with the Pope. You sent me here to instruct you how matters proceed. Master Stevyns (Gardiner), Gregory (de Casale), Peter (Vannes) and I have done what we could. You will see by "your farmer letter" (our former letter) to the Cardinal that the Pope will do nothing for you; and were I to write otherwise, I should put you in hope, where none is; and whoever has told you that he will, has not done you, I think, the best service. There is no man more sorry to write this news than I am. No men are more heavy than we are, that we cannot bring things to pass as we would. I trust never to die but that your Grace will be able to requite the Pope and "Popys," and not be fed with their flattering words. I have written to my cousin Anne; but I dare not write to her the truth, but will refer her to your Grace, to make her privy to all the news. We hope to know your pleasure as to staying here. I recommend to you the service of the prothonotary Casale, your ambassador at Venice. Your ambassador here keeps an honorable house, and is at great expence.
P.S.—Alexander, the courier, arrived here, with letters from you and the Cardinal, expressing surprise that we should have stated that the Pope would do nothing for you; we wrote as we saw. If Alexander had not come, we intended to have despatched Tady. I have shown your letter of remembrance to Gregory and the prothonotary Casale. Rome, 21 April. Signed.
Add. Endd.
Cal. D. XI. [X. 36.] B. M. 5482. KNIGHT to WOLSEY.
* * * "sent ... with high praise and ... the device as for the matter and ... secretary said that albeit the King's ... full answer by mouth unto Mons. de [Langeais] ... as he declared there on the King's behalf, whe ... as it was supposed, had made report hath ... to the intent that the matters, being so weighty, should ... understanded and pondered here, as they beth meaned [by the King's] Highness and your Grace, I had special commandment to re[late] the same, and first shewed that the King our master [was] sorry that the affairs of Italy had so unfortunate success, [not] doubting nevertheless but that with diligent foresight a ... right good effect might ensue upon his matters in time. Moreover, the informations and instructions for an [offensive] and defensive league in Italy brought from Rome by Mons. de ... were [approved] by the King and Wolsey, except that it should be first tried whether the Emperor would accept the indiction of a truce by the Pope, and on reasonable conditions deliver the French princes, and consent to a universal peace; on his refusal it should take effect, and lord Rochefort or some other able man should come hither to conclude a contribution to be made for con ... * * * ... the re ... [dan]gerous enterprise it was for ... an army into Spain. First ... htes, which being in the enemy's domy[nion] ... defended with small power and a right pu ... retarded and disturbed or with great loss should trans ... the passage, the country of Spain barren ... intolerable, nothing to be won." The event of battle was uncertain, so that a sure peace, though the conditions were somewhat grievous, was to be preferred to great h[ope] of victory. Though he had many confederates, none regarded the end that he desired, except the king of England; for the Venetians, Florentines and other Italians had respect to the preservation of what they had hitherto usur[ped], and to other pieces to which they daily aspire, and feared nothing more and desired nothing less than peace. Item, that the Emperor's ambassador in England, who is considered to have great zeal for peace, had said to the King and Wolsey, without knowing of anything intended between these two Princes, that the Emperor is and would be tractable, if there were a mediator for the peace, which if the King would permit him to be, he would undertake to persuade the Emperor to accept the truce.
Cal. D. XI. [X. 37.] * * * "... trees for the same purp[ose] ... [premis]es, we besought his Mages[ty,] ... season, and to consider what surety and ... upon a truce, being the peace mayned ... limits of France, your Grace being present ... were impeached by sickness or other inconvenience ... peace committed unto your Grace and lord Cardinal ... for which intents, as conclusion of the league, persu ... Pope for coming unto Avignon, for deputation and committing ... with many other considerations tending other unto peace or [truce], it was thought very expedient that Mons. de Bayon [should go] unto Rome with instructions and power sufficient, which [we asked] his Majesty to do and with diligence." The first thing that the King said after this, was that it was no time now to dissemble, for his children had been three years in captivity, cruelly handled, and none of his subjects were allowed to be with them; since their being in Spain, [he had] endured charges innumerable; he had lost by c ... sickness, many noblemen, and a whole army in Nap[les, peace] "hath been offered unto the Emperor divers times, and the same r[efused,] wherefore he is utterly determined, not with part of his pui[ssance] * * * the ... prepared sufficient for a ... [gre]te heats of Spain may be right ... [to]wnes as Burgos and other nothing so ... hopeth there upon great lucre, there y ... town or fortress strong, the people neither ... or apparelled for the war. God may give th[e victory] where his pleasure shall be, but man's reason would [count] it to be his." Although the intent of the confederates in Italy differs from what these Princes desire, still regard must be paid to them, for if the French king gave ear to a truce they would make peace with the Emperor directly,—which would be, he says, his express undoing. He has hitherto put the[ir] ambassadors in hope of good answer out of England, wh[ich] succeeding otherwise than he hoped, he has nevertheless ... satisfied the ambassadors, and will neither abandon them, nor [in] any way put them in suspicion. Though his brother of England would not help him, he will, rather than hinder the enterprise, find 40,000 of his own subjects to serve him in this voyage, at their own cost," he will ...
Cal. D. XI. [X. 38 b.] B. M. * * * "into Italy or to remain ... he shall remain there, the French ... army as soon as he may conveniently ... The King said incidentally unto us that if he [were to] take in marriage Madame Alienore, there [would] be some particular and special treaty of amity con[cluded between] the King his brother and him that they should be al ... When we asked of him whether that marriage were ... he digressed and answered impertinently. It y ... that as we did write unto your Lordship the 10th day of [April] here hath been a Portugal's servant, as it was said, [sent from] the Empress, treating secretly matters unknown un[to us] which the King made but light matters at our first co[ming to] him, saying that he would write the whole charge of th[e] Portugal unto Mons. de Langes to show unto your Grace ... both he is departed into Spain, and Mr. John de la Sha[ult] to my lady Margaret into Flanders. The King, the [lady] Regent, and the Council hath been absent by the space [of] ... days at such a place where they would admit no am[bassadors], and as we do suspect only for the dispatch of the said tw[o] ... We thanked the King for the good order devised by his Ma[jesty] for the election of a future Pope, in case this had deceased ...
f. 38. * * * "him that there is a ... from the Pope, whose charge ... [F]rensh king that the Pope may pass th ... [i]nto Spain, which he is very well c ... [i]nto, and by this device it seemeth that he [thinks] that it is needless to send Mons. de Bayon to [Rome] to make any suit thither, other for convention, depu ... [or] other thing to be had of the Pope. And for because [his] Majesty had long continued in communication with thambass[adors] of the confederates in Italy, and afterwards with ... the Master of the Rolls had scant leisure to take leave of him ... and so he departed from us. The rest of our instructions, which required not so great haste, I shall show unto him at ... time convenient." Thinking that Wolsey should know of this speedily, the secretary (Knighte) has sent his servant purposely in post. Asks Wolsey to pay his expences, and to make arrangements for the sending of letters, for yesterday a packet of Taylor's that was delivered here three ... months ago, to be sent to Wolsey, was by chance delivered unto him. Ask Wolsey to ponder well the matter, and to consider that if two or three of the most expert, wise and influential of the King's council were here to ...
f. 39. * * * "know myself insuffici[ent] ... to any request that is made ... [n]evertheless in that and all other I will ... for that that lacketh in me ye may ... The Court departeth within four or five ... [for] Amboise, and from thence to Romorantin ... unto Paris. Mons. de Langes ... arrived." Blois, 21 April.
In Knight's hand; a fragment of Knight's signature remaining. Add. Endd.
22 April.
Galba, B. IX. 156. B. M.
Wrote yesterday morning. Dined with the cardinal of Luke, in company with M. de Reux, Mons. de Brabanson, Mons. de Vyene, and divers others.
After dinner De Reux embraced him in token of amity, and, among other things, said, "Ha, Mons. l'Embassatuer, pleusse [a] Dieu que le Roy vostre maistre fuesse sy byen inclyn a ce[ste] huere davoyer ce que a luy apartyent de son vray [droyt] de France, come l'Emperuer nostre maistre est inclyn par l[ayde] de Dyeu d'avoyer le sien des Franssoys, je aroy ... vo ... que sy anssy fuesse, que davant long temps la gue[rre] seroyt fynee, et le Roy vostre maistre et le mien ch[acun] aroyt le syen que a tort datruy est possede." Made a moderate answer: "Mons., je tyens pour vray que sy le Roy mon maistre fu[esse] tant inclyn alla guerre come l'Empruer es[t] ... que sans fault nulle il trouveroyt byen le moy[en] pour recouvrer ses piessis. Mes pour le grand a[mour] et affection de bon volunte qu'yl a au byen pu[blic] et a l'uttellitte de tout la Cristiante, voyant le ... et perplexite in quoy tout la relegyon Cristya[nne est] pour l'huer present, il lesse reposser et indormyr son ... et droyt, comme myront a touts aultres prynssy[s] avoyer pece, unyon et concorde, intre touts pryn[ces] Cristyens." Will not repeat all their conversation, which finished in good manner. Mons. de Viene, (fn. 1) who was present, said to Hacket, "Mons. l'Embassatuer, je ne say sy s'est pour [le bien] della Crestiente que le Roy vostre maistre lesse indor[mir] son vray droyt de Gascoygne, Guyene, et Nor[mandie], ou sy c'est pour les grossis penssions que acqunes d[e son] royaulme et de son conssell ont anuelement de [France]." Answered, "Monsieur, je n'ay pas oy dyre de tellis penssions particulyers, et il me semble estre byen a sure que sy telle chosse y est, que n'y a nulluy que ressoyt ungs sans la cognossance et congie du Roy; pour quoy ung ne devroyt imputter tellis amytteys de movesse part;" to which he answered, "Da, da, M. l'Embassatuer, vous convertes touts jours le mal a byen." M. de Faltan, councillor of my Lady, and M. de Sevance, dined with him today. Asked if my Lady had received a letter lately from the duke of Gueldres. Faltan said he had not heard of it, but he knew Hoghestrat had told my Lady he had received a letter from him, asking him to prepare the money for his half year's pension, and my Lady bade him see there was no fault in the payment; for if they did not fail him, he would not fail them. To which Hoghestrat answered, that the money was ready at his pleasure. Sevance told him that my Lady had just received two letters, each containing a whole leaf in the Emperor's hand. He has also written to Don Fernando, and to all the princes of the imperial 'obeissance here and in Dutchland, so that there is a greater court here than Hacket has ever seen in the Emperor's absence.
Supposes that the said writings will cause some "novellation" here, and some prolongation of the diet of Spires.
The foresaid Sevance said also that my Lady had recent letters from Don Fernando, and that as it is said the Turk will not come into Hungary this year, by all likelihood Don Fernando will come this summer with all his army to Burgundy or some other part of France, and that these Low Countries will do the Emperor some good service with men or money; that Hoghestrat would prefer the alliance of France to ours, but the card. of Luke, and lords Berghes, Beures, Isilsten, (fn. 2) Reux and their allies, hold the contrary opinion. However, they all agree well in their conclusion of counsel, and will not meddle with us unless we meddle with them. The Emperor has caused a quantity of artillery and powder to be sent out of Mechlin, as they say here, for the Spanish fleet, which is now at Antwerp and Zealand, and numbers 153 ships, great and small. Ma[chlyng], 21 April 1529.
There has been a great rumour here that the French have made forays in Hainault, and therefore the Frenchmen and goods at And[werp] and Barrow have been arrested. Since then the Fre[nch] king has written to excuse the business to my [Lady] ... and the arrest is ordered to be removed. Sees nothing but good appearance touching the performing of the truce. 22 April.
In order to encourage all the King's subjects, both in the realm and without, to obey the King, advises that if William Cley appears to the King's citation he should have as favorable justice as possible.
Hol., pp. 4; part cipher, deciphered; mutilated. Add.
22 April.
R. O.
5484. CHARLES V.
News from Saragossa from the ambassador of the marquis of Mantua, 22 April (corrected from March).
The Emperor, contrary to the advice of every one, intends to go to Italy, though many difficulties, especially pecuniary, lie in his way. He seems inclined to make peace with the Italian princes, content with the kingdom of Naples, but is in no way disposed for peace with France. Authority has been given to the prince of Orange to make peace with the Venetians, who answered that they had determined to join no peace unless universal. A report has been heard in Spain of the Chancellor's arrival in Italy to treat with Venice. The Emperor arrived at Saragossa on the 20th, and lodged at the monastery, intending to proceed to Barcelona on the 6th April. Several ships were being loaded with corn to be carried to Milan, and corn and fodder had been collected in Andalusia, and sent to Barcelona and Carthagena, where the fleet met. Twenty-four gallies were being built at Carthagena. Twelve hulls were already finished, two of which D. de Mortaco had equipped. The Emperor had many ships of burden built, but the management of maritime affairs was left to Andrew Doria. Two ambassadors arrived from the duke of Savoy, then some from lady Margaret, about peace; but it is in vain, unless Francis will carry out the treaty of Madrid. The Emperor was said to be leading with him 10,000 foot and 500 noble horsemen, and the heirs of all the noblemen in Spain. He has sent Bonyfortis into Germany to enrol troops, and lead them to Italy.
P.S.—It is daily more certain that he will not go to Italy, but meet the Courts at Barcelona for levying money, and then send troops to Italy.
Lat., pp. 2. Endd.: Nova ex Urbe.
23 April.
Add. MS. 28,578, f. 183. B. M.
His licence to leave England has arrived just in time to give him life. Has little to do to fulfil the Emperor's orders before leaving. The King wishes to have the bishop of Worcester home. Requests the Emperor to have him conducted to the confines of Perpignan, where he may be exchanged. London, 23 April 1529.
Spanish, pp. 2. Modern copy from the archives of Simancas.
23 April.
Vesp. C. IV. 318. B. M.
5486. SPAIN.
Extract from letters of the bishop of Worcester to Nicolaus Rusticus, dated Saragossa, 21 April, in cipher.
He must ask Wolsey to act cautiously about the suspicion of the date of the brief; for if it is discovered before the Bishop leaves, his journey through Spain will be most dangerous, especially if he is alone. They say here that the brief was found among De Puebla's papers; which does not seem probable, nor consistent with what is contained in the transumpt. Considers the brief most suspicious. The seal seemed to be old wax over new. The Emperor gave them a good opportunity of speaking, as of their own mind, concerning truce and universal peace. Said nothing about the particular peace. Believes the Imperialists expected them to speak of it. Is sorry that he is going away, because it is important for him to be present if any one comes from Rome concerning the brief. Has, however, engaged a man to give him information, whom no one knows to be in his service. Could not leave one of his servants, for he would certainly be illtreated. Wishes their common masters to know that he will do whatever he can, but that this sort of thing cannot be done without danger and expence. Asks him to obtain from Wolsey a reimbursement of his expences. Does not think that the Queen's servants fear any copy or transumpt of the brief. If the Emperor's messenger has anything, God knows when he will arrive, as he goes by sea; and besides, if the cause is to be taken to Rome, it is not likely that they will present anything in England. Has therefore sent the copy by Courson.
The Emperor tells all whom he suspects that his voyage to Italy is certain, and orders them to prepare; to others he shows himself doubtful. Some provision is being made. He wished to have the guns belonging to the Archbishop of this town. Thinks he goes to Barcelona to plunder the tabula depositorum. He will probably go to Italy if anything favorable happens, although he has not made suitable preparations. Troops are being collected, as is said, to resist a French invasion. Thinks that many will not make more resistance than necessary to escape the charge of treason, and will receive them if they come with an irresistible force. A Florentine friend of the Bishop's is here with silks for sale, but none of those mentioned as going with the Emperor will buy them.
ii. From letters dated April 23.
Is told by a friend that the galleys at Barcelona are on land, and in the same state as they were months ago, but there is great store of oars, sails and other necessaries, and that the Emperor has already tried unsuccessfully to get possession of the tabula depositorum.
Expects to leave for Valladolid in four or five days.
Lat., pp. 3. Endd.
23 April.
Vesp. C. IV. 320. B. M.
Send by Curson a copy of the brief collated with the original before the Chancellor and Pernott, and signed by their notaries. Ghinucci advises that this should be well kept, lest they hear from Rome about the false date, and make another. Have ordered him that shall lie in the Emperor's court to watch if any one comes from the Pope with the rescripts; and, as they do not know whether the messenger will come from the Pope or Mr. Stevyns, have given their agent two letters, in Latin and English, to desire him to do nothing before hearing from them. Wish to show him the suspicion about the brief, that he may allege it if the Emperor refuse to send it to Rome. Will also send him a copy, lest they get another. Send the monitory of the bishop of Palencia, attested by a notary. Will also send one to the archbishop of Toledo, who has not hitherto recognised that he ought to pay any pension. Send a copy of the instrument made by the Emperor's notary of Pernott's proposition before the Emperor, and their answer. Saragossa, 23 April 1529. Signed.
P.S.—On looking at the instrument found the following matters not correctly stated: Quod episcopi sedulo visitaverunt. Quod mandantibus episcopis notarius legit. Quod notarius tenorem brevis in instrumentis inseruit ex requisitione Pernotti et mandato episcoporum. Saragossa, 23 April 1529. Signed.
Lee's hand; cipher, deciphered by Tuke; pp. 2. Add.
Ashmol. No. 1,109, f. 129. 5488. ST. GEORGE'S FEAST.
Celebration of the feast of St. George, 21 Hen. VIII.
24 April.
Vesp. C. IV. 321. B. M.
5489. [GHINUCCI and LEE to WOLSEY.]
Finding that the instrument contained what was not true, were perplexed whether they should send it, or should try to have it amended. Considered the quality of the matter and of the persons, and the extremity of time, for the Emperor had departed some days, and the Chancellor and Pernott would only remain till next day. Thought it impossible to get anything amended, or to get the instrument again if they once gave it up, and feared that Curson's despatch would be retarded, and that the Emperor being displeased might hinder the truce; and therefore abstained from complaint. But in order to prevent it being laid to their charge that they were content with the instrument, caused a man to spy when the Emperor's notary was out of his house, and then sent a notary twice to ask him to amend the faults, charging the notary to give instruments of their having sent him. Have conceived an answer to Pernott, but will not publish it until they know the King's pleasure, especially about the truce. But lest long delay should derogate from its authority, if used hereafter, have made a protestation before a trusty notary to the effect that as the Emperor had left six days and had ordered them to return to Valladolid, and as there was no one here in authority, they presented the answer before the notary, ready to exhibit it when they come to his Majesty. Will send a copy. Saragossa, 24 April 1529. Signatures torn off.
Pp. 2. Cipher, with interlined decipher by Tuke.
Vesp. C. IV. 322. B. M. 2. Notarial instrument drawn up by Dominic Beltran, of Saragossa, public notary in Aragon and Castile, attesting that when Ghinucci and Lee were before the Emperor on April 3, Nicholas Pernotti, lord of Granvela, said certain things concerning the king of England, of which Ghinucci and Lee had not been forewarned, and which it was impossible for them to answer in detail, as they could get no copy of his speech until April 22. The Emperor with most of his council has been gone three days, and the Chancellor and Pernotti left this morning. The English ambassadors, therefore, for their justification, declare their inability to reply, as the Emperor has forbidden them to follow him, but ordered them to return to Valladolid.
Witnesses: Matthew Chaten, clerk of the diocese of Saragossa, and Francis de Massa, layman, of Saragossa. Saragossa, 24 April 1529.
Lat., pp. 2, copy. Endd. at ƒ. 340 b.
24 April.
Cleop. E. V. 231. B. M.
5490. DIET at SPIRES.
Articles and conclusions by the Princes and Electors at Spires, 24 April 1529.
It is necessary that a General Council should be held at the instance of the Pope and the Emperor within twelve months, either at Cologne, Mayence, Strasburg or Metz. If the Pope cannot be present, the Emperor should be there. After this diet all Princes and Lords should agree together, and behave to their subjects as they will answer to God and the Emperor. The decision about all new sects, &c., brought forward in this and the last diet, shall be postponed until the Council. No new learning shall be preached touching the sacrament, and there shall be no hindrance to the performance or hearing of mass. All adults being rebaptised shall be put to death by fire or sword, at their choice. If any person will ask forgiveness, and cry for mercy, he shall have mercy. Children shall be baptised in their youth, according to the old manner. Any lord upholding persons who have fled in consequence of their opinions "shall run in the Emperor's statute, per bannum Imperiale." Every lord shall command parish priests and preachers in his dominion to teach the Gospel, saying nothing of these new found matters, and keep them obedient to their princes and lords.
Until the General Council no books shall be printed without being perused by four learned doctors. No lord, spiritual or temporal, shall override any person by force, touching the Christian faith, nor overcharge them in their rents or tithes, nor oppress them in any way. No lord shall uphold the subjects of another against him. If any lord is attached by another he may appeal to the Emperor's laws, and the Emperor's commissary shall summon the offender to cease his violence and appear in his Majesty's chamber. If the offender will not obey, the Emperor's fiscal shall proceed ad bannum Imperiale, as ordered at Worms; the Emperor's chamber and the nearest neighbours shall assist the injured party, who may recover costs from the offender. If any subjects, spiritual or temporal, make a congregation or insurrection, it shall be lawful for the neighbouring princes or lords to raise a force and punish them. The Princes are agreed "for a sudden help against the blood sucker of Christian people, the tyrant Turk."
Pp. 5. Endd.
24 April.
R. O.
Asks for his favor. The bishop of Norwich, as Dr. Lee can tell him, sent for him to Hoxne on the Saturday after St. George, and "tryumphed and highly talked" with him about the money Curat had paid to my lord's Grace. He was displeased with Curat's commission for the approbates of testates and intestates within the archdeaconry of Norfolk. Thinks they will try to persuade Wolsey to revoke it. Has paid his half year's farm to Mr. Ellis, but has got little or nothing yet from the office, and hopes Cromwell will see that he sustains no loss. Hoxne, the day above written.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: To the right worshipful Mr. Cromwell at London. Endd.
25 April.
R. O.
Asks for his favor, as he did in his last letter by Dr. Lee's servant. Never had more need to seek friends than now. My lord of Norwich is very angry, and threatens him with an action for having paid the money Cromwell knows of to my lord's Grace (Wolsey). Has made process against some for not paying their dues to Wolsey, but the Bishop has ordered them to pay it to him instead, as Mr. Stillington's executor. He is also very angry that Wolsey has granted Curat a commission for testates and intestates. Has just sent his half year's ferm, 70l., to Mr. Ellis, but has not received 20l. yet. If it is annulled, as the Bishop boasts it shall be, it will ruin him, "seeing I have a new master archdeacon, and near of my lord's Grace's kin." (fn. 3) Wolsey should not suffer his kinsman's officers to be removed so suddenly. St. Mark's Day 1529.
Hol., pp. 2. Add.: To, &c., Mr. Cromwell, one of my lord Cardinal's grace's council, dwelling ayenst the Awsten Fryers' gat in London. Endd.
25 April.
Galba, B. IX. 158. B. M.
5493. HACKET to TUKE.
Wrote on the 13th by Laures Nortt ... and on the 20th and 22nd by Mr. Deputy of Calais, and has received no letters since then. The Emperor has desired my Lady and the Council to engage part of his demesnes to furnish him with money; and it is concluded that divers of the Order, and of the Emperor's officers, with the prelates and abbots, shall be taxed after their estate to buy a so[m] of rents heritables, "the penne xvj. ap ... the said Emperor's demesnes." The petition for men is not yet consented to, but will probably be performed. Today Master Bri ... one of the Emperor's high council, and a special friend of ..., dined with me. Asked him if he believed that Rossynboix would bring his commission to perfection or not. He said that it was begun on the flattering offers of France to break the Emperor's enterprise in Italy, but it is not sufficient to stop the Emperor's purpose; he thinks Rossynboix's labor will be in vain, though Hoghestrat and others of his party think they will do miracles.
There is great dearth of corn in Spain and Biscay, as well as Italy and elsewhere, and corn here begins to rise. Thinks English victuals should be restrained, unless they have great abundance. If they lack, the Easterlings can provide them much cheaper than these countries. The Margrave and Scowttett of Antwerp are not well pleased that Akyrston is left so long in prison. Such delay will make them less willing to assist another time. Repeats his complaints about his want of money. Asks that Akyrston may be sent for to England. Advises that some little remembrances should be given to the Margrave and Scowttett. They have done their devoir at all times; but the burgoma[ster] and the law of the town have d[one] more diligence to save a cocka ... heretic than to please a noble pri[nce]. Besides the expences mentioned in other letters, spent on Harman's process 12l. 11s. F1., and does not know how he can make an end with him, unless the articles of intercourse be reconfer[red]. Hesdyng recommends himself to Wolsey and to Tuke. He says he is much beholden to the cardinal of Luke, who keeps him in his house at Luke, and who, greatly against the goodwill of my Lady and Hoghestrat, has saved him from perpetual banishment * * *
On the 22nd he sent the King's letter to Hacket, asking him to deliver it to the cardinal of Luke, which he did, with one of his own. Encloses the letter from the Cardinal in answer.
Is told that the conclusion of all the Lords is that all the Estates of these countries shall meet my Lady and the Lords of the Order here, when a proposition shall be made in public of all the Emperor's petition.
Thinks that this letter will be taken by William Cley, to whom Hackett has delivered the King's writ, and who leaves his business half done, half undone, to obey it. The council of the Merchants Adventurers think that Hacket's exploit on Cley is contrary to their privileges. At Machlyng, at my departing toward Brusse[Is], 25 April 1529.
Encloses a copy of the second "ligassion," which he has taken of Cley.
Hol., pp. 5. The cipher deciphered. Add. Endd.: Letters from Mr. Hakkett of the XXth day of April.
25 April.
R. O.
Wrote today. Received this evening a letter from my Lord Chamberlain, who writes that this day Madame de Langirton arrived, and told him that a secret commandment is come from the Emperor to Flanders to be ready for war with France. This day my "spial woman" reports that the captain of Tornaham is to prepare to fortify the castle. These are strange news if true. Calais, 25 April 1529.
Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd.
25 April.
R. O.
It is not more than an hour and a half since I wrote last by Tychett. At the shutting of the gates, I have heard from Tournay, that on Monday last the garrison of Guyse took certain Imperial carts laden with merchandise; for which reason they of Valenciennes have arrested the French carts. De Lanooye, captain of Tourney, has taken an abbot and all the French who were there. Also, an archer of mine has had news, on riding to Oodyrkyrke, and was warned not to go there. Mons. de Neelys has gone, bag and baggage, to Boulogne. Calais, 25 April 1529.
Hol., pp. 2. Add. Endd.


  • 1. Deciphered by Tuke "Fiens."
  • 2. Deciphered, "The governor of [Br]esse" in the last letter.
  • 3. Thos. Wynter, archdeacon of Suffolk.