Henry VIII: June 1529, 11-15

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Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 4, 1524-1530. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1875.

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June 1529

11 June.
Galba, B. IX. 167. B. M.
Wrote last, on the 31 May, by Mr. Wingfield, and has had no letter since. My lady Regent has fixed the meeting for the 18th, at Cambray. My lady Margaret will leave Brussels on Tuesday next, and Hacket will accompany her. Don Inigo de Mendoza arrived here on the 9th instant. He m[ade a] much better report of the King and Wolsey "than his master st ... has done at Antwerp," who said that Wolsey and Don Inigo had had ha[rd] words together, and he would not receive the King's present. It is said he will reside at Antwerp, till free from his promise to the King.
The matter that has slept three months is waking here again. "I marvel what cure that this people here hawys, how the King's grace and his noble Council shall govern his realm;" for, as he is told, lady Margaret has lately received from Rome the copy of the protestation that the Emperor and other princes have made afore the Pope, thinking thereby to cause the King or his Council to do more or less, as they think good to be done. Must sometimes hear them speak at large, but sometimes, when his poor reason is well taken amongst them, they lack no good payment. Brussels, 11 June 1529.
Hol., pp. 2. The cipher deciphered by Tuke. Mutilated.
11 June.
Rym. XIV. 299.
John Tayler, master of the Rolls, Ric. Lyster, chief baron of the Exchequer, Sir Anth. Fitzherbert, justice of the Common Pleas, Thos. Englefeld, justice of the Common Pleas, John Scott, baron of the Exchequer, Ric. Wolman, clk., Roger Lupton, clk., William Throkmarton, clk., Edward Hygons, clk., Ric. Lee, clk., Thos. Neuman, clk., John Skewe, Baldwin Malett, Walter Luke, Humph. Wyngfeld, William Conyngesby, John Hynde, John Baldewyn, Francis Mountford, Thos. Matson, and Christopher Jenny. Commission to hear and determine causes moved before the King in Chancery, and committed to them by Thos. cardinal of York. Westm., 11 June.
Pat. 21 Hen. VIII. p. 1, m. 9d.
Lansd. MS. 163, f. 201. B. M. 2. Draft of the preceding.
Pp. 2.
12 June.
R. O.
5667. JOHN WEST and JOHN LAWRENCE, Observant Friars, to WOLSEY.
Have obeyed his commands touching Wm. Roye at Yarmouth. From information given by John Stanleye, sometime the familiar of our convent at Richmond, we have made diligent inquiry for Roye in the Grey Friars and in the town of Yarmouth, but can obtain no knowledge of him. A school-master of the same town spake and drank with Roye betwixt Lestoe (Lowestoft) and Yarmouth, in Ascension week, and showed us the features and the secret marks of his face, the manner of his speaking, his apparel, "and how he does speak all manner of languages." On asking Roye whence he came and where he was going, he said he came from over sea, and would go to the North parts; so we took our journey from Yarmouth to Norwich, supposing to gain more knowledge of him. But coming to Langley Abbey we met a young man, come out of the North parts, from Lincolnshire, and we asked if he had seen such a person, and he said that two days before he had met the said person a little beyond Attellbryge on the way to Lyne, and another with him, who had a red head, which by all likelihood should be Jerome Barlowe, his companion. When they approached his company, Roye left the highway, and hid his face, but the fellow with the red head demanded of this young man the way to Lyne, and then they made great speed, which made the young man suspect that they had done some mischief. Considering that we could not pursue them on foot, we had recourse to the abbot of St. Benett's, of Holme, brother to Mr. Dean of Ipswich, to whom we disclosed our purpose, and found him diligent and faithful. For immediately he knew of your pleasure, he sent one of his servants on horseback to Lynn, and another to Walsingham, and offered us all the help necessary. We have heard from the servant who went to Lynn that Roye and the other took ship for Newcastle, where we intend to follow them. Had we received our instructions but three days before, we should have brought them both to you. Great as the labor is, we endure it for Christ's sake. Will want another letter in the event of Roye having gone to Scotland. St. Benett's of Holme, 12 June 21 Hen. VIII.
P. 1, Hol., in West's hand. Add. and endd.
12 June.
R. O.
I have sequestered all the alum belonging to the Pope in London, now in the house of Dominico Lomelyn, with orders not to let it go out of his house. I have given notice of it to Pantaline Spynelle, factor to Balthasar Spynelle. The customs amount to 450l., of which Spynelle desires to have the payment respited, as the alum was sequestered. I cannot come to your Grace at present, as I cannot show my face, having been shaved by a barber with an unclean razor. Magnus's accounts are now in yielding, for the wards' lands and the duke of Buckingham's lands; and he desires a general pardon. London, 12 June. Signed and sealed.
P. 1, Broadsheet. Add. Endd.
12 June.
Cal. D. XI. [IV. 64.] B. M.
5669. FRANCIS I. to _.
Power for Louise duchess of Angoulême, his mother, to treat for peace with the archduchess Margaret and the deputies of the king of England. Romorantin, 12 June 1529, 15 Francis I.
Fr., copy, pp. 3, mutilated.
12 June.
Vesp. C. IV. 328. B. M.
On 5 June, received his letters dated 20 April. Will fulfil the King's orders therein. The bp. of Worcester will leave with all possible diligence, but it will be long before he comes to the French court, because don Inachus does not come by Bayonne, as Wolsey supposes, but by Perpignan, which is more than 300 miles out of the way, and the Emperor has ordered the Bishop to go that way. During his absence, Lee will not fail in diligence, but he thinks that when the King and Wolsey have seen his letters of April 25, sent by Curson, they will see that Lee can do nothing, and that now it is not necessary for anything to be done. Are sure now that the brief is of no value, and advise Wolsey to procure a copy from the register at Rome, to which as much credit must be given as to the original. It will not then be necessary to urge the Emperor to send it to England. But in order to conceal their suspicions from the Emperor's council until the transumpt be taken, when the Bishop goes to Barcelona, which he cannot avoid, if he finds the rescripts there, he will do according to Wolsey's commission. Do not know how to proceed until they know Wolsey's opinion about the Emperor's offer to send the brief to Rome. The Emperor has forbidden them to follow him to Barcelona, and has sent them back hither, and they both are certain that the Emperor would only allow them to see him if they had anything to declare from the King. Have heard nothing from Rome, or of the rescripts. Lee fears that if anything further is done, his ignorance of the law may prejudice the cause, but he does not think there is anything more to be done here than they can do by mutual consultation. Hear that the new nuncio, the Pope's steward, and a bishop, is come to Barcelona.
If he has the rescripts, the bp. of Worcester will do his best to see them executed when he arrives at Barcelona, and Lee will do his part when he comes to the Court. Valladolid, 12 June 1529. Signed.
P.S.—Asks Wolsey, if he has not sent the monitory of the bp. of Palencia to Rome, to send it to the French court to meet the bp. of Worcester, who will see everything done concerning it. Have not heard what has been done with the monitory sent to the archbp. of Toledo. Valladolid, 12 June 1529.
Pp. 3. In Lee's hand. Cipher deciphered by Tuke. Add.
12 June.
R. O. St. P. VII. 186.
5671. LEE to HENRY VIII.
I wrote on 31 May specially of Gonzalo Ferdinando, the Emperor's chaplain. I have since heard that the Emperor sent him to the earl of Desmond, to whom he has returned with a chaplain of the said Earl's. Understand by the Cardinal's letters of the 5th June your pleasure for the return of Worcester, and what I should do touching the brief. As we are convinced of its falsity, we think there is no need to ask for the original. The Emperor will not suffer us to continue in his court, but has sent us to Valladolid. I will not, however, fail to do the best, especially if I can return to the Court, which is not like to be, unless we have some new commission to communicate to him. To amuse the Emperor's council, Worcester, who must needs go by Perpignan, as Don Ynigo makes his entry that way, will execute the rescripts, if they come, and he can find the time. Preparations go on for the Emperor's journey, which they say will not be till July. The king of Tremesame provides for him 100,000 hanegas of wheat. A new nuncio, (Jerome Selade, bishop of Vaison,) has come to court. The Dauphin and his brother have been taken to Pedrasa in Castile. Fourteen days since a French spy was taken there and quartered. English merchants complain that they are robbed at sea by the French. Vallolite, 12 June 1529.
Hol., cipher. Add. Endd. by the King: "The Amners letter."
Vit. B. XXI. 17. B. M. 5672. THE EMPEROR'S JOURNEY.
"Summa præsidii in comitiis Constantiensibus collecta ad iter faciendum Romam atque ad consequendam coronam Cæsaream, atque ad alia commoda atque res Romani Imperii expediendas."
List of horse, foot and money contributed by the electors, spiritual and temporal lords, and cities. Total: cavalry, 3,792; infantry, 4,754; money, 143,785 florins.
Lat., pp. 17.
12 June.
R. O.
Hears from some of Reynold's friends that he takes more pains to clear his account in one day than before in a year. Can produce four accounts which will show their untruth, the trial of which has cost him 100l. besides his loss other ways. Asks to be set at liberty, and let Reynolds do his worst. Will be obedient to Cromwell, and trusts that he and the arbitrators will give him 1,000 marks. 12 June 1529.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: To the right worshipful Master Cromwell.
12 June.
R. O.
Decree of Wolsey as Chancellor, in favor of the President and scholars of the College of St. Mary Magdalen, Oxford, in a suit against Thomas Polsted, senior, now deceased, and Thomas Polsted, junior. Dated in Trinity term, 12 June 21 Hen. VIII.
Corrected draft, p. 1.
13 June.
Cal. D. XI. [I. 56.] B. M.
* * * "by writin[g that the Turk will invade Hun]gary with 200,000 horsemen ... [h]ath provided for money and ... n and his whole army continually ... of three years. If this be the cause th[at inclineth] the Emperor so suddenly unto peace, it is [to be expected] that he shall have other matters to think up[on than] to embusy himself with hindrance or empeshem[ent] of your great matter. Finally, I reasoned with hy[m], and said that in mine opinion, if the lady Marg[aret] did make so great haste for concluding of the pe[ace] as Bayard reported, it was to be supposed th[at,] the peace once concluded, the Emperor would pass [over] into Italy; and there he being first furnished with g[reat] sums of money, by reason of redemption of the Ki[ng's] children, with other sums that he should recover [in] Italy, it was to be drad and feared that he might and would displease and trouble his and your confede[rates]. * * * ... said great diet and th ... [at] all times to set forwards upon ... [a] day limited for this meeting, fo[r] ... saith that your Highness and he desireth ... and everich of you greatly desireth as he [knoweth] right well, the performance of both th ... [for the] deliverance of his children and a good br ... final determination in your great matter of matrimo[ny]. Wherefore, inasmuch as he is desirous that your great matter should take the effect desired, and will help thereunto with all his possibility, so he doubteth no[t] but that your Highness will be content that all conveny[ent] means possible be used for redemption of his child[ren], and that in all manner ways ye will help thereun[to], and this like a very entire and assured brother h[e] prayeth your Highness to continue, and required us to advertise your Highness of the premises immediat[ely]."
Ib. 57. * * * "nothing intend but ... [t]he lady Margaret had said unto [us that her au]ctoryte from the Emperor is so ample [that t]here can no difference insurge upon the [same, which] shall be required for the peace, but that she [can, without] any further sending into Spain for counsel [or knowledge of] the Emperor's pleasure, compone and finally deter[mine] the same." She doubts not that when all parties requisite are assembled, the treaty will be concluded in one or two days. The French king, having so nearly attained his desires, and having good hope to recover his children, and supposing that by the neglect of this occasion his whole intent may be frustrated, has persuaded his mother to send a gentleman to Cam[bray] to prepare lodgings for he[r] * * * by Monsr ... es of the King's house that the ... yng by the river of Seine fr ... were near arriving at this town an ... [knowing] the King's pleasure therein, counselled us to [meet him] at his descent from his barge. At th[e disembarkation] I, duke of Suffolk, saluted the King, the lady [Regent], Mons. de Angouleme, the King's son and h[is] ... daughters; and riding with him on the left side, th[rough] this city unto his place called the Louvre, having [such] commodity and good occasion, I recited unto him h[is] communication had at Romorantyne before me and thoth[er] your ambassadors, saying that by report of Mons. de Burges all the said determination was clean alt[ered]. He answered that the same was very truth, and that the importunity of the lady Margaret with the common fame that was spoken amongst the Burgony[ans] was the very cause of the same, for where ...
Ib. 58. * * * "... de unto us by th ... [M]oreover whereas his Majest[y] ... [t]hat Bayard should return to Par[is] ... from the lady Margaret, and that he [should remain] here till Bayard's arrival, and al ... there should be a meeting first at Cameray [between] three personages, the one to be sent from your Highness," and the others from the French king and the lady Margaret, to see that the conditions for the peace to be proposed at this diet should be reasonable and acceptable, and before that [is] known the Regent should not move towards Cambray. All the premises being suddenly altered, and the French king giving full credence to Bayard's report, we conceived * * * "this day ... [accomp]agnyd with the prevost of ... s by the commandment of the King ... the said Bayard remaining s[till with the lady] Margaret had written and certified h[ow that, so far as] he can conjecture or judge by good woo[rds and]" countenance of the lady Margaret, that there is great hope the peace will take effect, and that he is required by the lady to d[emour] in her court, and she will send a gentleman to reside with the lady Regent, to certify e[ach] other of the occurrences expedient to be known before their meeting at Cambray. The time for the meeting is not yet determined by the lady Margaret, but preparation is being daily made by her, and when we do we[ll] ponder the same with report that Bayard ...
Ib. 59. * * * "empesche and let th ... [th]e said country. After this upon new letters received fr[om] ... unto us that his army in Naples prosp ... the Cesarians by divers inconveniences ... and that the count Peter de Navare [whom] the Cesarians had taken prisoner, is decease[d and] departed from this world." Paris, 13 June.
In Knight's hand. Mutilated, pp. 7. Suffolk's signature only remains.
13 June.
Vit. B. XI. 157. B. M.
Wolsey knows what happened up to the 6th from their separate and joint letters of that date. Think their reasons against the advocation of the cause will take effect. Will omit no point of their instructions, or anything else they think advantageous. Are expecting Benet hourly. Have endeavoured, both with the Pope and his councillors, especially Salviati, to appease his anger against the allies, who, he says, intend to occupy Perugia. He complains that the French king has instigated Malatesta Baglione, the Papal commander of Perugia, to revolt, and has assisted the Florentines by sending him 1,000 foot and a number of horse; that commissioners are appointed to govern the States of the Church; and the advice of the Venetians, Florentines, and the duke of Urbino has more weight with the French king than justice. He says that the abbot of Farfa has been sent by the French king to plunder the neighborhood of Rome, which has given a handle to the Imperialists and Colonnese to commit still greater devastations. The Abbot boasts that he will enter the city as the Colonnese did. The Pope sees how readily an inextinguishable fire would be kindled, and has used all his power to prevent the Imperialists from collecting an army, and overrunning this district. Now he feels so indignant at this new injury, that he will provide for his own safety and avenge himself.
The Imperialists, knowing the occupation of Perugia by the Florentines, have told the Pope that they are ordered by the Emperor to protect his Holiness's states and rights at his expence; and, whether he wishes it or not, they have determined to expel the enemy from Perugia. These plans he cannot and will not prevent, especially as he sees that the Florentines wish to take him prisoner to Florence. He told them, with tears in his eyes, in the presence of the French ambassador, that he would revenge this boldness, and put himself in safety; for which purpose he has sent for 3,000 foot from Spoleto. He is also indignant at the detention of his niece. He says he would rather serve in the Emperor's stable than endure any longer the insults of his subjects and vassals. Cannot express the excitement with which he made these complaints. Answered that the kings of England and France had clearly proved their faith and affection to the Pope. He immediately replied that he knew the King's mind, and had always put his trust therein, and always would do so, but he complained of the French king and the other allies. We said, that the two Kings knew nothing of the plans of the Florentines and the duke of Urbino for occupying the Papal states, and that Malatesta was only retained by Francis to repel the enemy, and they were sure that when he knew of the damage done to his Holiness he would immediately rectify it; and offered their assistance for the preservation of his states. He said they could do no good, and the French king could not excuse himself, for he had heard everything from Salviati in the Pope's name, and had refused to pay any attention to him, even saying that the Pope could not complain of the engagement of Malatesta, as he had formerly engaged Doria. This the Pope says he never did, but he has letters from the French king asking him to do so.
He is also indignant at the French king for neglecting to inform him of the negotiations for peace. He says that he sees the intention of the French king and the other allies, but he will implore assistance from every one, except the Turk, and defeat their attempts. He thanked them for their offered assistance, but spoke of it as useless. Asked him to consider the evils that would ensue if he asked assistance from the Colonnas, and allowed the Imperialists to enter the state, which they would plunder and devastate; Malatesta also would be confirmed in the possession of Perugia, which is to strong for the Imperialists to take; he would give himself up again as a prey to the Imperialists, deserting those princes who have always desired the exaltation of the See, and hope to prove their good will in the conclusion of a peace; but this new conflagration, which his Holiness ought to avert, will prevent the wished-for peace. He would admit none of these arguments. Did all they could to appease him, but fear they have been unsuccessful. Finally, he said he was not God, but man, and intended to use all means, force or fraud, to defend his own, and recover what he has lost.
Their opinion of the Pope's mind is as follows:—Think that he will so act that he need not declare openly for the Emperor, but defer a public declaration till he sees how matters go. He seems to rest upon this:—First, he thinks that the Emperor will visit Italy, and, if there is a war, will be victorious, so that it will be to his Holiness's advantage to obtain his friendship beforehand; but if peace is made, the terms are at the Emperor's pleasure, and there is therefore more to be hoped for from his assistance than from that of the French king. The Emperor is the enemy of the Allies, and seeks to recover the honor he lost by the sack of Rome, which he intends to do by assuming the protection of the Pope when peace is concluded. The French king is allied with those whom the Pope regards as his greatest enemies. Every one thinks that the French king would prefer the Florentines to remain in their present liberty, which the Pope also says he wishes, although an intimate counsellor of his says otherwise. The mission of the archbishop of Capua is a matter of no little consequence. It is said that he is to assist the legate Salviati, in the Pope's name, in arranging peace, and to do nothing of which the French king does not approve; but still there may be some other object in view.
Will attend to the bulls tomorrow. The cardinal SS. Quatuor has been taking recreation for the last week. There are public prayers for peace. Rome, 13 June 1529. Signed.
Lat., pp. 10. The passage in italics in cipher deciphered.
13 June.
R. O.
What I and Gregory have done you will see in our joint letter. The Pope, hearing of the meeting at Cambray, and considering himself neglected by France, has appointed the archbishop of Capua to be present at the convention. I heard from him the next day that he was to go to France, and wait at Chambery till he heard the King's pleasure. I think he suspects there will be no certain peace unless you are present, &c. I said that I was certain that if you were there the Pope could have no more faithful or friendly minister. He knows nothing of the coming of the Emperor, but thinks he will send large forces into Italy. He told me he did not willingly engage in politics. Pray send me the letters for cardinal Ravenna, of which I wrote by Thadeus. Rome, 13 June 1529.
Hol., Lat., pp. 2. Add. Endd.
13 June.
Vit. B. XI. 162. B. M.
"Molto Reverendo Signore." I have received news from Genoa, dated the 8th, that Andrea Doria was going to start in the evening with the galleys to meet the Emperor. Another messenger says he saw him set sail. His correspondent says that the Emperor's coming is considered certain, either for this month or July. Great preparations are being made. Mantua, 13 June 1529. Signed.
Ital., p. 1.
15 June.
Le Grand, III. 323.
What I say in the King's letters of recapitulation is that I could not have sufficiently shown for the satisfaction of this King all the matters of which he has given me charge, but I have made no other despatch. You will see their terms; consider about your own, in which, if you do not make haste, it will be more to your disadvantage, quite apart from the risk arising from delay. For the present all goes well; that is to say, they do not wish to provoke you. But you may be sure they are in great pain, especially from the great suspicion they entertain of the passage of the Emperor, agreed as he may be with you; which, if it take place, they expect the Pope will revoke his commission; and they fear you only offer them comprehension in the peace, and not the honor of being principal contrahents. This they con- sider as no small beating and diminution of their reputation. I think, therefore, it would be well if you can do anything to satisfy them on this matter, as I wrote to you on the 11th.
I have sent by the bearer some hackneys for Fitzwilliam upon his journey, in order that he may make less diligence. I doubt not that on his receiving the present you will be pretty far gone into the country. It will not be so soon as I could wish, and I declare that I am half dead with the continual rude beating that I am subjected to; but you know I have a good and firm opinion, and will not give up the place easily. Also I have communicated to Wolsey, I think with some adroitness, the will of Francis as you wrote to me, and I am sure I have got him to approve of it. I believe that whatever the others do, the end will be as I have written to you. He is too subtle for them. (Il est trop fin pour eux.) It is true that if at this moment your affairs be concluded, they not being the principal contrahents, the people will cry out upon him as a traitor and a Frenchman, as they already give him to understand. He assures you it is an injury to him that this assembly takes place without him. I have written to you, ever since my arrival, all the language he has used about it. You will know from what source it proceeds. I do not say this to excuse it; but, I will answer for it, he would speak otherwise if he dared. So far as I can learn, Fitzwilliam has made good report to his master of the affairs of England, "et a trouvé les propos du Roy totalement confermans les moyens (? myens)."
Yesterday evening the Court arrived here. The King, coming by water, landed, in passing, at my lord of Rocheford's, with a small company of ladies and gentlemen, where he waited for the tide, and then went to Greenwich. The Queen had already passed by land, and had seen Campeggio. Friday (fn. 1) is their day. I much fear that for some time past the King has come very near Mademoiselle Anne, therefore you need not be surprised if they want to hasten it; "car si le ventre croist, tout sera gasté." I have heard lately, on good authority, that the king of Scotland has sent to treat with the Emperor, principally for his marriage. In Ireland there were some practices going on by those of the country, to which a stop has been put in good time. I think they are going to send Master Mour thither to treat with them. London, 15 June.
P.S.—I hear they are sending the prothonotary [Lazarus] De Bayf as ambassador to Venice. I think, whoever has made choice of him, it is much to his credit, and that when he has had a little experience he will do great service to the King. The ambassador here complains that the letters of his correspondent are withheld from him.
Fr. Add.
15 June.
R. O.
Notarial copy of the will of Thos. Gilbart, of the parish of Sturrey, Cant. dioc., made 26 May 1465. Dated 15 June 1529.
Vellum, mutilated.


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