Henry VIII: August 1531, 16-31

Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 5, 1531-1532. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1880.

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'Henry VIII: August 1531, 16-31', Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 5, 1531-1532, (London, 1880), pp. 187-199. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/letters-papers-hen8/vol5/pp187-199 [accessed 14 June 2024].

. "Henry VIII: August 1531, 16-31", in Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 5, 1531-1532, (London, 1880) 187-199. British History Online, accessed June 14, 2024, https://www.british-history.ac.uk/letters-papers-hen8/vol5/pp187-199.

. "Henry VIII: August 1531, 16-31", Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 5, 1531-1532, (London, 1880). 187-199. British History Online. Web. 14 June 2024, https://www.british-history.ac.uk/letters-papers-hen8/vol5/pp187-199.


August 1531, 16-31

16 Aug.
R. O. Foxe, IV. App. I. (Townsend's Ed.)
372. Thomas Bilney.
1. Copy of a book consisting of two homilies, both apparently unfinished, written by Thos. Bilney while imprisoned in the Guildhall at Norwich, after he was given over to the secular power, and delivered on the day of his death. The copy sent to the duke of Norfolk by the mayor of Norwich, 16 Aug. 1531.
Pp. 12.
R. O. 2. Copies of the two parts of the above.
Bilney's hand?
R. O.
Foxe, IV. App. III.
3. Speech of Thos. Bilney at his execution at the Lollards' Pit, without Bishopsgate, Norwich, from the recollection of Edw. Rede, of Norwich.
Denies that the four orders of friars are to blame for his death, and exhorts his hearers to extend their charitable alms to them.
Has never taught heresy to the "Lady Ankeres" of the Black Friars. Was sworn not to preach without licence of his ordinary, and is sorry that he broke his oath. Has said that the Pope's curse has only cursed him outwardly and not before God, but he exhorts them to fear the sentence of the Church and be obedient thereto. Protests that he believes Ecclesiam Catholicam. Once said unadvisedly that he did not believe the Church as it is now used; exhorts the people to believe in the Church. Leaves the marriage of priests to be disputed by Mr. Doctor, his ghostly father, and other doctors in universities, after his death. Has always said that virginity and chastity are greatly meritorious. Denies that he disapproved of fasting, and wishes that prelates would use more of it, following Christ's example.
P. 1.
Foxe, IV. 633. 373. Bilney to Tunstall, Bishop of London. (fn. 1)
Is glad to be called to examination before Tunstal, who is esteemed of so much wisdom and integrity. Tunstall knows well there will never be wanting a Jannes and a Jambres who will resist the truth, or an Elymas to subvert it; and others will rise up like Demetrius, saying, "This heretic seduceth the people, &c." Gives an account of his conversion, which arose from reading Erasmus's New Testament.
Foxe, IV. 636. ii. Same to Same.
Impugning "that learning which hath so long time reigned," and desiring that Tunstall will bring him before the tribunal of my lord Cardinal.
Ib. 639. iii. Same to Same.
Another letter in the same vein, in the end of which he says he stops for want of paper, and desires a personal conference with Tunstall. Signed as "Your prisoner and humble beadman to God for you."
18 Aug. Raynald, XIII. 224. Pocock, II. 660. 374. Clement VII. to Henry VIII.
Asks for aid against the Turks, who have invaded Dalmatia, and have given indications that they mean to make an expedition in the spring. Rome, 18 Aug. 1531.
19 Aug.
Vienna Archives.
375. Chapuys to Charles V.
The King, under pretence of hunting about Windsor, has ordered the Queen to dislodge and retire to More, a house belonging to St. Alban's, and the Princess to Richmond. Many think this very strange, and think it an extreme determination for the divorce. I think it is only grimacing, to induce the Queen to consent that the cause may be tried here; of which she takes no heed, for all their tricks. The king-of-arms of Mons. de Savoy has been sent to the earl of Wiltshire to know if, according to the charge which he undertook in passing by Chambery, he had showed the King Mons. de Savoy's claim to the kingdom of Cyprus, &c. Wiltshire, on hearing of his arrival, to prevent his seeing the court, retired from it, and sent for the herald, and then charged him with having gone to visit the Queen; and hearing it was not so, was very glad. He then told him the King had come to no resolution on the matter, and the Council were dispersed, &c. He then proceeded to insist greatly on the power of France, and that M. de Savoy had been wrongly counselled to accept the county of Ast, and that the Electors of the Empire intended to revoke the election of the king of the Romans.
The Court here express pleasure at the new marriage of the duke of Orleans; and this, I think, both for the hope of gaining favor with the Pope and to be quit of the promise of the Princess. They report that the Pope, in contemplation of the said marriage, was going to give Parma and Placentia, and other things, which has a bad look; but this, I think, they do only to defame him, or to induce the prelates and others to believe that he is on bad terms with your Majesty, and that the said treaty of marriage has been made in spite of you.
Joachin stopped only one night at court, and has since returned to Dover more disgusted than ever. I know not, as yet, what he was about. The elect of Amiens arrived here when Joachin went away, and is closeted with the duke of Suffolk.
London, 19 Aug. 1531.
Fr., hol., pp. 2, from modern copy.
19 Aug.
R. O.
376. Expenses Of A Divorce.
Indenture between Thos. Sothehill, Esq., and Ric. Bowier alias Stirley, notary, by which the latter undertakes to solicit a "matter of delegacy" in suit before Dr. Cox, judge delegate, between Eliz. Savell, plaintiff, and Henry Savell, defendant, and to bring it to a sentence of divorce from bed and board, for a sum of 20l., out of which he will pay all expenses to the judge, doctors, proctors, and other scribes, in the Court of Arches. Witnesses : Thos. lord Darcy, Gawen Ascue, John Chauntrell, with others. Dated 19 Aug. 23 Hen. VIII.
Signed and sealed by Bowier.
21 Aug. Otho, E. IX. 26. B. M. 377. Sir Edw. Guldeford to Cromwell.
"... which was detayned ... the same Lubyks with him at their ... of Rye were brought into my howse at W ... two Hispagnyards which were sent unto m ... othre Inglisshemen were there with me claymy[ng] ... to be taken by them, and there before me I ... Hispayngyards and Inglisshemen to see what they ... the said capitaynes, which was not denyed but ... goodes they have, and oon Fysshemonger of Lon[don] ... made unto him at Rye of all his goods, sauff x. b ... for recompence, whereof to be made by the Stylyarde ... wrote to the Stylyard, and the said Stilyarde will ..." The Captains have promised to restore all ships and goods taken from the King's subjects in his streams, and for the sooner despatching of them and of the plaintiffs has sent "the said ... my servants to my lieutenant to the castle of Dover ... Hispagnyards and other being in their compaynyes, where [they be] very well intreated, and they be very glad to goo thith[er], as their shippes be nigh theim there, so as they ma[y] make restitution." If they will do so, they may go peaceably to their ships; if not, they will be sent back to Guldeford, unless the King commands the contrary. Thinks they will make restitution with diligence, as they wish to be in their ships, for doubt of the Hollanders preparing their navy. Thinks that this captain, Marks Majeur, is the chief of them next [to the] Admiral, who is one of the 24 aldermen of ... He goes in the ship with the Admiral, and has charge of all the soldiers; he is a goodly young man, and well spoken. Hears that Cowche, of Dover, and Thos. Gyggs, of Barkyng, are their lodismen. They shall be detained till he knows the King's pleasure whether they shall be lodismen or not. "I do assure you the captain was very * * * and so by the advice of the h ... fro the Downes to stay the Lubiks ships ... f presuppose that they of the Stillyarde ther ... Hispagnyards and other plaintiffs shall myte at the ... Dovor, and there shall take order for the restitution." Asks, on behalf of Rye and Winchelsea, that they may have half a dozen pieces of ordnance from the Tower, that may be carried from place to place, with powder and shot. Asks also that the blockhouses may be made up according to the plot, "and I will be wourthe to the King 40l. in the do[ing] of it." It will be a great safety to the towns and country adjoining. Nothing will be safe without this, as his neighbour Fletcher will show when he goes to London. ... 21 Aug. Signed.
Pp. 2, mutilated. Add. : To the right worshipfull and myn assured frende Maister Cromwell.
22 Aug.
Add. MS. 28,583, f. 351. B. M.
378. Dr. Ortiz to Charles V.
Has received the Emperor's letter of 25 July. The vacation has prevented any further progress in the cause of the queen of England. Mai has ordered me to read? (pasar) the bishop of Rochester's apology, which has just been sent from England, in which he answers the two chapters of the book composed in favor of the King. He has shown the true way which ought to be taken, and omits little that could be added.
Hoping to hold a public discussion, I have not thought fit to print what I have written, so as not to show my arms to the enemy.
Sepulveda has given me a book which he has composed in the Queen's favor. It will be printed, by my advice. Rome, 22 Aug. 1531.
Sp., pp. 3, modern copy.
23 Aug.
R. O.
379. Piracy.
Declaration of John De Melton, mariner, of Grimsby, Linc. On Aug. 23, 23 Hen. VIII., when Kellwanton (?), a pirate, was taken in the Isle of Man, De Melton, who was in his company, fled with others in the ship to Grimsby, "and tha ... De Melton wass a rastett, and the shepp allsso, be one Master John Hannages," by whose order all the goods were taken out and given into the keeping of Bryan Cortes, viz., 189 of "watte," 1,200 pieces of pitch and rosin, 8 bows, 10 sheaves of arrows, 3 cross-bows, 10 pieces of ordnance and their chambers, 1 firkin of gunpowder, the ship of Borden (Bordeaux?) of 50l. with all her apparel ...
P. 1. Endd. : Robertus Boty, Angelus Mylanes, Gregory Blot, Rafe Gardyner, of Alborow.
23 Aug.
Harl. MS. 1231, f. 1. B. M.
380. Sir John Rudstone.
1. Will of Sir John Rudstone, citizen and alderman of London, dated 16 Aug. 1530.
Pp. 11.
Ib., f. 7 b. 2. "1531. Hereafter followeth buying of pewkes and blacks, cloths for gowns, which were given and bequeathed by Sir John Rudstone, late knight and alderman of London, which deceased from this transitory life, 23 Aug. ao. dicto."
Pp. 13.
Ib. ff. 14, 45. 3. Papers relating to his funeral expences, &c. in 1531 and later.
Pp. 12, 15.
Ib., f. 43. 4. Parcels of plate and ready money delivered 23 Nov. 1538, by Nic. Rudstone to Sir Edw. Wotton, for the use of the five orphans of Sir John Rudstone.
Pp. 2.
25 Aug.
R. O.
381. Victualling Of Calais.
List of persons "bound by obligation to the use of our sovereign lord king Henry VIII. for conveying of victual to Calais and other places before the King's letters to the customers and other officers within the port of London directed." Dated 9 April 22 Hen. VIII.
14 Dec. 19 Hen. VIII.Thos. Turnboll, of London, fishmonger, and Hen. Smyth, of Brekelsey, Essex, mariner, 36 ways baysalt, 2 lasts pitch, 1 last soap, 4 tons iron, 8 tuns wine, to Berwick,200l.
24 Dec.Cornelys Johnson, of London, beer-brewer, and Wm. Adryan, of Flushing, mariner, 10 tuns of beer, to Calais,200l.
Raymond King, of Wakering, Essex, mariner; Wm. Wright, of London, salter; Cosyan Johnson, of Flushing, mariner; Henry Bleke, of London, beer-brewer; Adrien Shomaker, of Newhaven in Flanders, mariner; and Giles Haryson, of London, beer-brewer, and many other tradesmen and mariners; some having been bound since the King's letters of 9 April 22 Hen. VIII., and before his letter dated 25 Aug. 23 Hen. VIII.
Total : Beer, 246 tuns 5 p.; billet, 19,000; malt, 26 q.; rye, 250 q.; mastlyn, 200 q; cheese, 18 ways; tallow, 8 ways; herrings, 3 lasts 5 barrels; baysalt, 105 ways; Lusborne (Lisbon?) salt, 12 ways; pitch and tar, 2 lasts; soap, 1 last; iron, 4 tons; wine, 8 tuns; winesack, 1 butt, 8,600l.
Pp. 7. On the flyleaf are memoranda, crossed out, of money paid for repairs at "le Muse," and for other purposes.
25 Aug.
Erasm. Ep. l. XXIV. 19.
382. Erasmus to Reginald Pole.
Having returned from England, Simon Grynus has expostulated with me not a little for having omitted to write to you, who deserve a principal place among my friends. But this was neither owing to forgetfulness nor to laziness. I supposed you had returned to those literary pursuits which I heard you had unwillingly abandoned when you left Padua. Your Chrysostom is safe, and I will send it at this fair if I know to whom to give it; for the whole MS. was copied some time ago by my secretary. The whole of Chrysostom in Greek was promised me two years ago by Ghiberti, formerly datary, now bp. of Verona, but I see nothing of it. Frobenius, at my suggestion, is going to print the Greek St. Basil. I think Leonicus must be dead by this time; he was despaired of four months ago. I hear Lupset is dead also. (fn. 2) I was glad to hear of your health and prosperity from Grynus. Friburg in Brisgau, the morrow of St. Bartholomew, 1531.
25 Aug.
Add. MS. 28,583, f. 354. B. M.
383. Muxetula to Charles V.
The bishop of Auxerre has told the Pope that if he will not conclude the marriage of his niece with the duke of Orleans, the kings of France and England will renounce his obedience. His Holiness is perplexed, for he knows he ought not to conclude the marriage, but he is afraid that the French king may act madly. * * * Rome, 25 Aug. 1531.
Sp., pp. 12, modern copy.
27 Aug.
Camusat, 154 b.
384. Francis I. to the Bishop Of Auxerre.
Has found out that the bishop of Paris (Franois de Poncher), during the King's imprisonment in Spain, made plots to prevent his return, and to deprive his mother of the Regency, using words derogatory to their honor. Has arrested him, and wishes to have a bull empowering the card. of Grammont, the president "des Enquestes" of the Parliament of Paris, and Jacques de la Barde, provost of Puy, to try him. He is to communicate this to Albany, who will assist him in procuring the bull. Fontainebleau, 27 Aug. 1531.
29 Aug.
R. O.
385. William Wogan to Cromwell.
I thank you for your goodness. I received your letters desiring to know whether I am minded to leave my interest in my farm of Bradwell. I have married an aged gentlewoman, and the living I have by her is only for term of her life; and I have no other place except there where is the best part of my living. I beg I may keep it still, as you helped me to it. Banbury, 29 Aug. Signed.
P. 1. Add. : Right worshipful.
30 Aug.
R. O.
386. Lawrence Stubbs to Cromwell.
Desires the continuance of his favor, and that Cromwell will find means to discharge him of the suit of Rob. Barfote, of London, mercer, now in the Common Pleas, for 13l., as executor of Thos. Hannibal, late Master of the Rolls. Was never executor. Dr. Taylor, now of the Rolls, was sole executor, "and caused his chaplain, Sir Rob. Batie, to minister under him to such time as my lord Cardinal's grace claimed debt of him for Mr. Hannibal; whereupon the said Mr. Taylor delivered to my Lord's use, by inventory, certain stuffs and some money, of the which part come to my hands as receiver general to my said Lord's grace, for the which I have accounted." Cromwell had promised to discharge him of this suit. If he cannot do this, begs that the suit may be removed into Chancery. Will find him grateful. Kingston on Thames, 30 Aug.
Hol., p. 1. Add. : To the worshipful Mr. Thos. Cromwell.
30 Aug.
R. O.
387. Assault On Stokesley, Bishop of London.
Bill filed in the Star Chamber by Christopher Hales, Attorney General, against Sir Will. Gibson, Sir William Stoderd, Sir John Smyth, Sir John Geffreyson, Sir (fn. 3) Blag, Sir (fn. 3) Parker, Sir Christopher (no surname given), Sir Will. Doffen, Sir Will. More, Sir Peter Baudewyn, Sir Baptist , (fn. 3) Sir John Coudrey, Sir Hen. Cox, Sir Hen. Coldenell, Sir Patrick , (fn. 3) Sir Thos. Kyrkeham, Sir Will. Wynsterly, Sir Nich. Wytwange, priests, for conspiring to murder John bishop of London, and evade payment of the clerical subsidy voted at the last Convocation. The Bishop having, on the 26th Sept. last, given monition to divers curates and stipendiary chaplains to appear before him at St. Paul's to have their benefices assessed, the above priests assembled riotously at the Grey Friars' Church on the 30th Aug. 23 Hen. VIII., and, along with others, both priests and laymen, made an assault upon the Bishop's palace at Paul's, where they continued an hour and half, and from thence returning to the chapter house, made a new assault on the Bishop and his officers, whom they put in fear of their lives.
Pp. 5.
31 Aug.
Add. MS. 28,583, f. 361. B. M.
388. Mai to Charles V.
"The duke of Albany behaves very courteously towards him, and endeavours to enter into negotiations with him. Avoids them.
Met the Duke the other day at the papal palace. The Duke told him he would come to his house and speak with him. Being ordered not to carry on negotiations with the Duke, he asked Andrea del Burgo to go to the Duke, who at once began to speak of affairs of State. These things, he said, must be remedied; viz., 1, the affairs of Hungary. The king of France would gladly concert the Vayvod with the king of the Romans. The 2nd affair, he said, was the divorce cause of the king and queen of England. The king of France did not say that the Emperor had not justice on his side, but it would be well to allow some delay, and thus we might have it settled. The 3rd thing that must be changed are the relations of the king of France to Italy. The King could do still great evil if he chose. Andrea del Burgo answered that he was glad to hear what the Duke said about Hungary, but the Vayvod was declared a partisan of the Turks by the Apostolic See. As far as the cause of England is concerned, Andrea del Burgo continued, neither the Emperor nor the king of the Romans have ever been disinclined from a friendly arrangement; but this proposal, he said, was against God, against justice, and against honor. The delays in this cause have already been too great. As to the threat of doing much evil, Andrea del Burgo answered as a valoroso baron.
"Negotiations concerning the marriage of the niece of the Pope, &c." English abstract from original at Simancas.
Ib., ff. 364 and 369. 2. Two copies of a "relacion" of the above letter, and another of 1 Sept.
31 Aug.
Add. MS. 28,583, f. 363. B. M.
389. Mai's Letters.
"Relacion de cartas de Micer Mai de postrimero de Agosto."
"The bp. of Oserra (Auxerre) has arrived as ambassador. The first thing he has asked of the Pope was the marriage of his niece with the duke of Orleans.
Asked the Pope whether this ambassador was asking anything of what Tarbes was negociating. The Pope said he did not know anything besides what he (Micer Mai) had already written; viz., that the duke of Albany, speaking of the friendship between the Emperor and the king of France, said that such an alliance would produce a very good effect in Germany. Now he (the bp. of Auxerre) has said that he did not know how these affairs could be arranged. If the Seores in Germany retain the property of the churches, those of France and England will imitate them. For this reason it would be good for the Emperor to come to a conclusion."
Modern abstract from original at Simancas.
Ib., f. 360. 2. Copy of this portion of Mai's letter.
R. O.
390. Welsh Borders.
"The names off dyverse lordys marchers in Wales, per estimacionem." The duke of Richmond; the earls of Arundel, Salop, Derby, and Worcester; lords Stafford, Dudley, Powes, Bargevenny, and Audeley; the bishops of Hereford and St. Davids; the prior of Lantonye; Rice Gryffyth, Sir Thos. Cornwall, Sir Ric. Cornwall, Mytton, Jas. Vaughan, Jas. Baskervile.
P. 1.
R. O.
391. Export Of Corn.
A register of various bonds for the conveyance of corn from different ports to other ports in England or to Calais. These bonds are of various dates, from 2 Hen. VII. to Aug. 23 Hen. VIII.
Pp. 19. Endd. : "A boke of certein obligacions wherein certain persons stondith bounden to the King's highness by several obligations whereof the days of payment be expired and not paid, together with other obligations for the conveying of corn and other victuals out of this realm contrary to the King's high commandment, which shall be put in suit this term."
Aug./Grants. 392. Grants in August 1531.
1. Henry Johnson. To be a gunner in the Tower of London, with 12d. a day. [In English.] Monastery of Waltham, 21 Sep. 23 Hen. VIII. Del. 1 Aug. (fn. 4) P.S. Pat. p. 1, m. 33.
2. Robert Burton. Grant of all the messuages, &c. called "le chauntre landys of Bodyngton," in Byfeld and Bodyngton, in the hundred of Wardon (Northt.), which came to the King's hands by the forfeiture of Thomas cardinal of York. Farnham Castle, 3 Aug. 23 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 4 Aug. P.S.Pat. p. 2, m. 12.
3. Thomas Wescat, chaplain. Presentation to the parish church of Highbray (Exeter dioc.), void by death. Windsor, 7 July 23 Hen. VIII. Del. Chelsea, 5 Aug. P.S. Pat. p. 2, m. 3.
4. Henry Norres, esquire of the Body, Grant of the manor of Levynge alias Perlaunt (Bucks), and the park of Parlaunt in Langley, Bucks, commonly called Parlaunt park, with the deer therein; and the advowson of the chantry of Colbroke chapel in Colbroke (Bucks); with all the issues of the premises from Mich. 4 Hen. VIII. Hampton Court, 27 June 23 Hen. VIII. Del. Chelsea, 6 Aug.P.S. Pat. p. 2, m. 5.
5. Ric. Vaughan, mercer of London. Protection. Esthampstede, 6 Aug. 23 Hen. VIII. P.S.Memorandum below, that a protection was issued, in pursuance of this warrant, on the 14th Aug.
6. William Castyll, clk. Presentation to the parish church of Pachcote (Linc. dioc.), void by death, and at the King's disposal by reason of the minority of George Vernon, son and heir of Richard Vernon, deceased. East Hampstead, 10 Aug. 23 Hen. VIII. Del. Chelsea, 14 Aug.P.S. Pat. p. 2, m. 3.
7. William Moreton, one of the pages of the King's chamber. Grant of the office of bailiff of the manor of Harrold, and keeper of Harrold park (Beds), lately belonging to Sir William Compton, deceased, during the minority of Sir Peter Compton, son and heir of the said William; with fees of 2d. a day as bailiff of the lordship, and 3d. a day as keeper of the park; on surrender (on account of invalidity) of patent 8 April 21 Hen. VIII. (fn. 5), which was to the same effect. Guildford, 16 July 23 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 17 Aug.P.S. Pat. p. 2, m. 4.
8. Thomas Lestraunge, of Hunstanton (Norf.), alias of Thorpe Molyneux (Suff.), alias of (fn. 6) Warw., knt. Exemption from serving on juries, and from being made sheriff, escheator, bailiff, or constable of a borough. East Hampstead, 7 Aug. 23 Hen. VIII. Del. Chelsea, 19 Aug. P.S. Pat. p. 2, m. 4.
9. Thomas Alvard, one of the gentlemen ushers of the King's chamber. Grant in fee of the site, &c. of the late monastery of St. Peter, Ipswich (Suff.), containing by estimate 6 acres of land, the messuage adjoining, in which William Capon, clk., late dean or master of the late college, called "Cardynalles College" of St. Mary, in Ipswich, lately dwelt, (except the advowsons of the churches of St. Peter, St. Nicholas, St. Mary ad Clavem, and St. Clement); and all other lands, &c. in Ipswich, which came to the King's hands in consequence of the judgments against Thomas cardinal of York, &c. Ewelme, 13 Aug. Del. Chelsea, 23 Aug.P.S. Pat. p. 2, m. 4.

Calig. E. I. 50. B. M.
393. Instructions to Sir Francis Bryan and Foxe.
... "we greet you [well] ... letters from you Sir Francis Bryan ... and considered the contents of the sa[me] ... yther the departure of the lady Regent from ... e the repair of the Queen to the Emperor if ... we. And forasmuch as, being the Lady Regent ... tude and favourable to the avancement of ... [w]e would gladly let and empeche her departure fr[om ... g]rounded upon displeasure, and not of infruite (?) ... it may per case be, we have thought good in d ... these our letters towards to the intent that ye, [Sir Francis] Bryan with the Great Master, and ye our Almone[r with the] Chancellor, should upon knowledge of our my[nd aid an]d set forth the same accordingly. And to instr[uct you more pla]ynly, thinking of the said lady Regent's departure, [we co]nsider it must of necessity be either for debility [and weakn]es of body, not able to travail and sustain [such jour]neys in the King our good brother's removing, and so as ... [th]e world doth draw to rest and quietness ... [in w]hich case there is no rem[edy] ... of displeasure and misconten[t] ... of the diminution of the love of ... by that means the decay of her auct[ority] ... if it be true, then, is there plainly sum ... undermining, like hereafter to touch other besi ... And being thus, though the said lady['s departing may] not per case be revoked, yet this matter spoken of in time [peradventure shall] cause such our friends as depended upon her [to have the] better eye (fn. 7) and regard to themself, so as they be [not] overturned or they perceive it. Wherefore our p[leasure is] that either of you severally, ye Sir Francis Bryan with [the Great] Master, and ye our Almoner with the Chance[llor, taking] occasion to speak of the said Lady Regent, do fi[rst with your usual] dexterity endeavour yourself to know the certain[ty on] what ground and cause she is departed, which y[e may very well d]o, lamenting her absence, and commending her wis[dom and t]he great stay she hath been to them, and how fre[ndly] ... and loving unto us, and that ye know well we will * * * thereof, and much more sorry ... of any cause not necessary." If they manifestly speak of it as arising from debility of body, in such sort as they ... mean, the ambassadors will have nothing further to say, [except] to accuse, for manners sake, the universal decay of nature, and express their sorrow for her disease. But if they do not earnestly excuse her absence by her disease ... ly overtly as loth to confess their master's fault, then they may first say, "as it were ... ye be afraid our good brother hath had some ghostly [father] that hath told him the Scripture, Propter hoc [relinq]uet homo patrem et matrem, et adhrebit uxori. [Thu]s speaking as of yourself, ye may say that in your [opinion] it is good to take heed thereunto, and to search out [who th]at ghostly father is, for it seemeth what soever ... his intent is not satisfied to have the mother ... but he should seem rather to take away * * * the chief post, to the intent ... should afterward decay ... or speak frankly unto them ... cannot be withstanded in the mother's per ... look to go easily forth against other, and ... say the common experience of the world ... as upon a change of one chief councillor ... ensued a change of other, which hath ... of him. Ye therefore considering this matter ... how sorry we would be to fear ... chance in their persons, have thought as of your[self, good to] commen with them therein, and though they be of the ... and can perceive what is what, yet ... [ye] cannot forbear to say unto them that ye think and ... good saying, Ccus si viam monstret, aspice t ... and in this ye may say ye think to see evidently wo (who) have laboured to diminish and decay the ... of the mother will labour to diminish ther * * * not been difficile for ... ose against her, it will be much ... them. Wherefore if they [by all the] means possible compass the ... n of the said Lady Regent, they ought ... and they shall have many honourable causes ... as well for that she is naturally mother, as ... and wise mother having more experience [in affai]res than any other hath, whose counsel [if it had] been always followed, our good (fn. 8) had [not com]en into the dangers he hath been in, and [by who]se counsel the affairs have been brought [to the goo]d point they be in. And after all this labour [and] travail sustained, to be contemned in age [is not] honourable :with such other good words as [ye cann]e devise and excogitate to that purpose ... the Great Master, ye Sir Francis Bryan [shall say]e that we in our opinion take and repute many ... either in his absence, or without his knowledge * * * henne he is present ... and that he excuseth the sa ... him, we know him and take [him to be our] perfect friend, and one who meaneth to ... our good brother his master doth; and b[eing such] a man as he is, we cannot suppose in [him such] negligence as to forget so long to participat[e] ... in time such matter unto us as com[ing to our] knowledge very late might give cause to fr ... where as the same known before should ha[ve given no] cause of suspicion; as is now the meat[ing of] the Queen with the Emperor, which we long before the ... had of the Emperor's meeting with the French king ... Mons de Vaulx, though it took not effec[t] ... yet the Queen with the King's counsellers sh ... with the said Emperor; whereof yet from thence ... have no such knowledge. And then of yourself ... add that now we shall understand of the la * * * ... e of her authority w ... that the said Great Master's decayeth also ... we desire him that we being ... grue of amity with our said good [brother] ... the same is in the high degree of ... [a]nd cannot as we trust be augmented ... expedient that where is no ground ... of suspicion there be given no ... outward appearance of suspicion ... al affairs be sincerely and in time ... [a]s we do for our part, concealing nothing t ... de or purpose."
Draft, mutilated, pp. 7.

Titus, B. I. 486.
B. M. St. P. I. 380. R. O.
394. Instructions for Cromwell.
The Attorney is to proceed against Adam Travers, (fn. 9) Robt. Cliff, (fn. 9) Thos. Pelles, John Parker, and Rowland Phillips, who have confessed to being guilty of prmunire; also against Peter Ligham, (fn. 9) who stands on his defence; also against Charles [Booth] bp. of Hereford, if he does not agree; also final assurance to be made of the King's exchange with the abbot of Westminster, the prior of the Charterhouse, Christ's College, Cambridge, the Lord of St. John's, the abbots of St. Albans and Waltham, and the provost of Eton. To proceed against the owners of certain ships at Hampton, and against Sir Thos. Seymour if he will not otherwise agree. All obligations to be recalled for conveying corn. Inquiries to be made for the seizure of the manor of Fendon, Sussex, and process against Sir John Dudley for the profits. Communication to be had with Lord Montague for clearing lands given to the duke of Richmond. To call for Nanfan's book touching the duchy of Cornwall. Communication to be had with Sir John Dudley and Lord Berkeley respecting the manor of Berkeley Horns. The bill of Augmentation of Treasons to be ready against Parliament. For the conveyance of kersies into Flanders. For the payment of customs for the importation of sweet wines. For a bill of primer seisin to be ready for Parliament; also of Servers and Apparel. Also for the recognizance of 10,000l. due to the King from the earl of Northumberland. Process against the executors of Thos. Fitzwilliam for a recognizance. Communication with the executors of the old earl of Derby, for 800l. due to the King. Item, diligent process against the King's debtors. Other proceedings of less importance. For a bill to be devised for every spiritual person holding promotion and resident without the King's licence in the Court of Rome, to divide his revenues into three parts; one for himself, the second for reparation of manors, &c., the third for charity. For orders against regrating of corn. To call upon the abbots of Tower Hill and Beaulieu for 1,000 marks, supposed to be in their hands, levied to the late Cardinal's use, of the order of Cistercians.
Headed : Instructions, &c., by the King to his trusty counselier, Thos. Cromwell, to be declared to the Council, and undelayedly put in execution this Michaelmas term, 23 Hen. VIII.
Endd. by the King.

R. O.
395. Debts to the King.
Debts of the earl of Northumberland to the King. For his father's debt, upon an obligation payable 10 May 1527, for the ward and marriage of one of the daughters of Sir John Thwaytes, 66l. 13s. 4d. For his own livery, all payable at days past, 316l. 13s. 4d. For Antony Bonvyse's debt, 8,062l. 9s. 6d. For Castelyn's debt, 120l. For the redemption of the manors of Poynynges, Perchinge, Preston Poynynges, Asshecombe, Waldren, Chyntynge, and Pengeden, in Sussex, from Sir Edw. Seymour, paid by Thos. Cromwell, 1,604l. = 10,169l. 16s. 2d.
2 July, anno '23. Lease of Ponynges, &c., for 69 years, for 144l. 11s. a year.
The Earl owes at Midsummer 1535 and 1536, 210l. in exchange of three obligations of Hugh Clopton. Total 10,389l. 16s. 2d.
A paper roll.

R. O.
396. Bonds.
A note of obligations and securities.
"An obligation of the bishop of Hereford's and other" for 200l.; one of Sir Thomas Seymer of 500 marks; one of Peter Ligham's clerks for 100 marks; a statute of Griffith ap Howell for 400 marks, and one of the duke of Norfolk for 200 marks.
P. 1.

R. O.
397. The King's Revenues.
"A memorial for the King's highness, declaring the kind of things wherein riseth yearly as well his certain revenues as his casual revenues, and who be officers to his Highness in that behalf."
The treasurer of England : the yearly revenues and profits of the customs and subsidies accounted for in the Exchequer by the customers.
The Master of the Wards; the surveyors of the Liveries; the butler of England; the surveyors of the vacations of bishoprics and abbacies; the surveyors of the restitution of temporalities of bishops, abbots, and priors; the surveyors of the King's woods; the clerk of the hanaper for the Great Seal, for writs of entries, fines, and other writs : the profits of the above offices are accounted for before the general surveyors. The Chancellor of the duchy of Lancaster : the profits of the receivers general and particular, accounted before the auditors of the duchy. The general surveyors : the profits of the receivers general and particular, and other officers of Warwike lands, Spencer's lands, Buckingham's lands, the duchy of Cornwall, the chamberlains of Chester, North and South Wales, and the whole principality. The Exchequer : fines, amerciaments, and recognizances in the Chancery, Starred Chamber, King's Bench, and Common Pleas; outlawries and escheats; the profits of the sheriffs; recognisances, fines, and amerciaments before justices of assize, justices shewers, justices of the peace, quorum and oyer determiner; recognisances forfeited before the treasurer, chamberlain, and barons of the Exchequer, of customers, receivers, alnegeours, gaugers, farmers, sheriffs, escheators, and other officers, are all accounted for in the Exchequer. The general surveyors : recognisances forfeited before them should be accounted for, and what they amount to at this day. The Chancellor of the duchy : the yearly profits of recognisances, fines, &c. must be known. The Exchequer : obligations for employment of merchandise brought into the realm taken by the customers; what is due now from customers, escheators, and other accountants in the Exchequer. General surveyors : what is due now from particular receivers and other accountants before the surveyors. The Chancellor of the duchy of Lancaster : what is due now from debts of particular and general receivers, bailiffs, &c. General surveyors : what is due from forfeited recognisances in the county palatine of Chester; the debts of receivers there; recognisances, fines, issues, amerciaments, and debts of officers in N. and S. Wales and Pembrokeshire; the debts of the King's officers in the duchy of Cornwall, wherein it is thought the King is much deceived; the profits and debts of officers in Calais, Guisnes, Hammes, Marke, Oye, and the Marches; and who be the debtors, so that levy might be made thereof speedily. The warden and masters of the King's Mint : the profits of the Mint in the Tower and elsewhere must be inquired into for six years past. The King's learned counsel : the revenues from penal statutes, and ends taken with the King by obligation, indenture, and otherwise, must be declared by a book.
Pp. 6. With a few additions by Cromwell.

R. O.
398. Archbishop Of Dublin.
Account by John archbishop of Dublin, of 100l. of the King's money, given to him in the 20th year, by Sir Brian Tuke, by order of the late lord Cardinal and the duke of Norfolk, when the said John was first [made] archbishop of Dublin and then Chancellor of Ireland, and was sent thither with haste.
At Chester, in Jan., to Hugh Oldgrave, to go with letters from justice Bermyngeham and others of the Council in Ireland to the King, the late lord Cardinal, and Norfolk, 4l. (not allowed). For the expences of the mariners at Chester, where the Archbishop and the lord of Kilmainham lay from Christmas to Candlemas, waiting for wind, 11l. 7s. (not allowed). To Sir Thos. Fitzgerald, at his going to England by Wolsey's and Norfolk's order, 40l. (respectuatur). To Mr. James Sheffeld, a special messenger, with letters to the King, 6l. (not allowed). To John White, serjeant-at-arms, for repairs at the castle and Court of Chancery, 20l. 11s. 1d. (11s. 1d. not allowed). Copy of the Archbishop's letter to Norfolk, recounting the above expences, and stating that he found the Chancery in Dublin Castle more like a swine-sty than a stable. Total paid by him, 108l. 11s. 5d.
Expenditure by the Archbishop of the half of 100 marks, delivered jointly to him and the prior of Kilmaynan by Sir Wm. Skeffington, the King's commissioner : To John More, Skeffington's servant, to make provision for Sir Wm. against Kilmantan, a rover of the sea, 20l., of which he repaid 9l. (11l. not allowed). To Thos. Stephyns, for carts to the hosting, when Sir Thos. Fitzgerrot was captain., 4l. 13s. 4d. (not allowed). For a boat to Beumarice to know whether the King's army were come to the sea-side, 17s. 9d. (allowed). To Hugh Oldgrave, to go and come with the King's letters when the Government was in the hands of the King's Secret Council here, for three quarters of a year, 6l. (not allowed). For other messengers, by order of the Secret Council, 9l. (not allowed). For the King's ships to convey Mr. Musgrave with the army, 36l. 4s. 5d. (allowed). The Archbishop is behind for his fee of the Chancery for one year and one term, 50l. Irish.=33l. 6s. 8d.
Copy of a receipt by John Alen, Chancellor of Ireland, and John Rawson (prior of Kilmainham), general receiver of the King's revenues, of 100l. Irish = 100 marks, from Sir Wm. Skeffington and the King's Commissioner, 21 Nov. 21 Hen. VIII. (not allowed). Copy of a letter from the Council to Sir Wm. Skeffington, informing him that Kilmantan intends to attack him on his passage, and, by capturing him, to obtain the King's pardon. Dublin, 4 Sept. Signed by the Archbishop, Rawson and Bermyngeham.
Receipt by John More, Skeffington's servant, of 20l. from the archbishop of Dublin, to provide a ship for the better security of Skeffington on his voyage from Chester, of which sum he has returned 9l.
Copy of a portion of the King's letter to the Council, stating the reasons of his sending Skeffington thither.
Copy of the receipt, by Thos. Stephens, of Dublin, bailiff, from the lord Chancellor, by order of Baron Fynglas, of 4l. Irish for carts to convey victuals to the hosting upon Omore, 5 March 21 Hen. VIII.; and also of a receipt for 3l. Irish for the same purpose on Easter Eve.
Total paid, 101l. 2s. 3d., whereof the above 50 marks are to be deducted.
The Commissioners have disallowed 54l., besides 50 marks of which they have discharged the prior of Kilmainham and charged the Archbishop, to the intent the new Lord Deputy would put him to sue to the King. In 22 Hen. VIII. the Archbishop confessed that he had laid out for the King, for ships, repairs, and hostings, including the unpaid fee of the chancellorship, 124l. 2s. 2d. st.
Now 100 marks more of the fee are due, which Skeffington is bound to pay him by obligation before Christmas 1532. Signed, John Dublin.
Pp. 4.

R. O.
399. [Henry VIII. to the Bishops Of ...]
"... de father in God and reverend father in God our right ... we grete you well. And where our trusty and ... justice of our chief place there presented unto us ... [f]ader in God our right trusty and right wellbeloved ... 166l. 13s. 4d. of our money delivered to his ... manded of him. The contents and circumstances ... d and considered. As noted such sums of money ... our pleasure were known in that behalf. We at ... e considerations moving us and our Council ... wise the sum of a 11l. 7s. in the second article ... archbishop. Also where he desireth allowance ... [ha]ve not allowed unto him for not expressing ... also the secret causes and considerations of ... [touchi]ng [the com]mandment of our Council given unto him our ... ion in that behalf. Semblably ... lde in coming to us and our Council with letters ... was sent hither with causes of importance ... weight as the case then required according ... bishop at his departure from us. We will the ... [o]f the same Archbishop for 4l. 13s. 4d., and ... e wages of carts at an hostenge upon O'More ... der therein than to cause payment to be made unto ... hath been accustomed in like case, which we ... [li]kewise where the said Archbishop (fn. 10) desireth ... ffairs the time that he and certain other of ... governance under us of that our land. For ... will that he be allowed thereof. And indilate ... or treasure there as either remaineth in the hands ... chancellor. Over this as to the said Archbishop's ... [u]npaid of our fee assigned unto him for the ... ll that if it shall appear unto you the same to be ... like payment to be made unto him thereof according ... And where ye charge the said Archbishop to ... s. iiijd. whereof, as it is alleged, the prior of ... We will and command you, that if it may [appear upon reasona]ble and just cause that he ought to be accompt[able unto the said Bish]op thereof. Finally, we eftsones will and ... s account such sums of money as he paid ... eng the time he exercised the same roulme ... ign of so much of the said fee as is not ... Easter until the day of publication ... ile to accomplish all and every of the premisses ... [Y]even under our signet at York Place, the 10th ..."
P. 1, badly mutilated. Endd. : "... for the bishop of Dublin."


  • 1. These letters are of an earlier date, but are placed here for convenience.
  • 2. A false rumor, if this letter is correctly dated; for Lupset died towards the close of 1532.
  • 3. Blanks in MS.
  • 4. So in P.S.
  • 5. Not found.
  • 6. Blank in original.
  • 7. eye. This would seem unquestionably to be the word intended; yet although it was originally spelt "ye" in the text, it has been struck out, and the letters "ire" interlined in the same hand.195
  • 8. brother, omitted here?
  • 9. These opposed the King's divorce in the Convocation summoned in 1529. See Pocock, II. 459.
  • 10. Of Dublin.