Henry VIII: October 1531, 16-31

Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 5, 1531-1532. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1880.

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'Henry VIII: October 1531, 16-31', in Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 5, 1531-1532, (London, 1880) pp. 225-237. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/letters-papers-hen8/vol5/pp225-237 [accessed 11 April 2024]


October 1531, 16-31

16 Oct. 476. Anne Boleyn and the Earl Of Wiltshire.
See Grants in October, No. 16.
16 Oct.
R. O.
477. Sir John Lowther to the Lord Chancellor.
Received on the 10th Oct., by Thos. Talbut, his Lordship's servant, his letter commanding him to certify the circumstances of the death of Ambrose Armestrong, and what has been done in the matter since. Has used all efforts to discover the truth by his officers and bailiffs. Finds that it was owing to the capture of some horses of John Musgrave's within John Armestrong's ground. They were driven to the pound by John and Will. Armestrong, when John Ingram and Richard Musgrave, sons to John Musgrave, with five serving men, issued from the castle of Bowcastell, and pursued the Armstrongs. In the fray Ambrose Armstrong was smitten by John Musgrave the younger with a spear through the body, and died immediately. The Musgraves fled to Bowcastle, followed by the Armstrongs, and John Musgrave would have been taken if the drawbridge had not been drawn up. Anthony Armestrong charged John Musgrave, in the King's name, that the felon should be forthcoming; but Musgrave from the walls denied his authority. On this fray the whole of the King's tenants of Bowcastle, the land serjeant of Gyllisland, and lord Dacre's tenants assembled, and the land serjeant kept watch against the felon escaping till my lord Conyers was advertised, who sent his servants to the castle, and caused all men to depart and keep the peace. Carlisle, 16 Oct. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. : To the honorable and my most singular good lord, my Lord Chancellor.
16 Oct.
Vienna Archives.
478. Chapuys to Charles V.
On Friday last Dr. Lee, elect of York, the earl of Sussex, treasurer Feuveullen (Fitzwilliam), and Dr. Sampson, went by the King's order to visit the Queen, and made her a long discourse of the inconvenience which must arise if the difference between the King and herself proceeded according to the rigor of justice; and it would be much better to get rid of it by amicable means, leaving it to the bishops and others of the kingdom; for there was no reason why the cause should be determined at Rome, where, through fear of you, justice could not be done. They urged the same arguments as had been urged by the duke of Norfolk at Greenwich, at Whitsuntide. She replied, with all sweetness and frankness, that at the commencement, when she thought the King was moved to this divorce by scruples of conscience, she had begged him to assemble the bishops, and put them on their oath to speak the truth, and whatever they said should be observed; but this he refused, saying he wanted no other decision than that of justice; and that since the King had taken this route, and the case was so far advanced, for the assurance of their conscience and the future estate of the Princess their daughter, it was necessary to obtain his declaration, to give law and example to all the world. But that now, as she knew that the King was not moved thereto by a scruple of conscience, but only by mere passion, she would not be so ill advised as to consent to the compromise which the King required, especially here, where everybody, either for fear or subornment, would say black was white, and that the King ought not to doubt that she would pursue the process commenced by him, seeing that she had done everything by his leave. After many replies the said four persons fell on their knees before her, begging her for the honor of the King, the great good of the Princess, the peace of the kingdom, and her own repose, and that the King might treat her better than he had ever done before, that she would allow the process to be decided here, either by justice or amicably. Hearing and seeing this, the Queen likewise threw herself upon her knees, praying them, for the honor of God and his Passion, for discharge of the King's conscience and her own, to remove such a scandalous example from Christendom for the good and peace of the realm, and that they would persuade the King to return to her, as he knew that she was his true and lawful wife; or, if he had any scruple, he would allow it to be cleared at Rome, where it could not be supposed that your Majesty had employed any violence or practice, for you were a very just prince. They knew not what to answer, as well for the argument's as for pity's sake. Almost all the Queen's people were at the interview, and, notwithstanding that the interviewers spoke in a low tone, the Queen wished to be heard and understood by every one, and there were few of them that did not shed tears. On retiring they told her that the King would give her a choice either of staying where she was, or retiring to a small house of his, or to an abbey. The Queen replied, it was not for her to choose, and that wherever the King commanded her, were it even to the fire, she would go. At the return of the interviewers the King summoned his Council and many other nobles either to deliberate on this, or to receive Bayonne, who arrived here on Sunday. I do not know what his business is.
Your Majesty sees that the Queen's treatment proceeds daily from bad to worse, and in consequence of the coldness at Rome it is to be feared it will not be soon remedied. He ought to make the declaration on the brief granted at Bologna, as the King is almost entirely divorced from the Queen, and cuts himself off from all conversation with her. A Spanish doctor, named Moscoso, has written a book in favor of the Queen, commended by the bishop of Rochester. He would be glad if the Doctor would undertake to answer a book printed on behalf of the King.
There are some disturbances on the frontier of England and Scotland. London, 16 Oct. '31.
Hol., Fr., pp. 3. From a modern copy.
17 Oct.
R. O. Ellis, 3 Ser. I. 339.
479. Gregory Cromwell to Cromwell.
I am in good health with my cousins Bersfourd and Wellyfyd, (fn. 1) "and apply our books diligently." I beg you, when you see the earl of Oxford, to thank him for making us good cheer when he came to our town of Yeldham to hunt the fox. The parson of Yeldham has also sent for us several times, and made us good cheer. I beg you to give credence to my good friend Dr. Lee. Topsfyld, (fn. 2) 17 Oct.
Hol., p. 1. Add. : To his right worshipful father, Mr. Crumwell.
18 Oct.
Calig. B. VII. 448. B. M. St. P. IV. 575.
480. [James V. to Henry VIII.]
The day after the departure of Henry's servant, Miles Forest, James's commissioners returned from the Borders to Edinburgh. Their hasty return and neglect of the rest of the Borders was occasioned by matters moved by the English wardens, which James believes were unauthorized. Has sent Thos. Scott, who was one of his commissioners, to explain. Sterling, 18 Oct. 19 James V. Signed.
18 Oct.
R. O.
481. Thos. Baxter to Cromwell.
Reminds him of their old amity, and that Cromwell had promised at their last interview at Paul's he should not lose a penny by him. "And now, as I understand, God hath well provided for you, of the which I am right glad. Sir, now I heartily desire you to remember me, and to clear conscience. Good is the world, and conscience goes with every man. I thank God I am the same man that I was wont to be." Begs he will send him his mind by Master Anderson the bearer. Newcastle, 18 Oct.
Hol., p. 1. Add. : To the right worshipful Master Thomas Crumwell.
18 Oct.
Add. M.S. 8,584, f. 13. B. M.
482. The Emperor to the Empress.
Begs her to keep the galleys that they may be ready in case he should return to Spain by the Mediterranean. *
"Has read what she has written to him concerning the bread (or flour) from England. It is, however, not possible to obtain flour in that kingdom. Begs her to get what is necessary in Spain, Sicily, &c. Brussels, 18 Oct. 1531."
English abstract from original at Simancas.
20 Oct.
R. O.
483. Edw. [Lee], Archbishop Elect Of York.
Bull for his promotion to the archbishopric of York, on the death of Wolsey. Rome, 13 kal. Nov. 1531.
21 Oct.
R. O. St. P. VII. 327.
484. Benet to Henry VIII.
We are discussing here whether Karne should be admitted by your letters to lay in the matter excusatory, and thus the adverse party is stopped from their process. Will write again in seven or eight days by the post that shall bring the bulls of my lords of York and Winchester.
Has matters of great importance to show to the King, which cannot be treated of by letter, and advises him to write to the Pope about his return, and also to the bishop of Worcester and Sir Gregory, who are not privy to what Benet wishes to disclose to him.
Requests him to keep this letter secret. Rome, 21 Oct. 1531.
Corrected draft, in Benet's hand.
22 Oct.
Add. MS. 28,584, f. 15. B. M.
485. Charles V. to Mai.
"Negotiations of the duke of Albany in Rome. Proposed interview with the king of France, &c., to insist very strongly that the matrimonial cause of the queen of England be decided without further delay. Has spoken in this sense to the Legate, and begged him to write to the Pope what he has said. It is his will that no proposal of a compromise, or of any other kind calculated to delay the final judgment, be made or entertained for a moment.
"The lawsuit is to be decided according to law. Has written to his Ambassador in England, ordering him to see that the proceedings which have been taken there be sent to Rome. Has sent orders to Spain that all the proofs which are wanted be forwarded to Rome without delay, and also that the examination of witnesses be extended to what he (Mai) has written about the probability of war at the time of the second marriage. 22 Oct. 1531."
English abstract from original draft at Simancas.
23 Oct.
R. O.
486. Brian Higdon to Cromwell.
Received on Sunday his letter dated 14 Oct., desiring him to admit Sir Roger Cawton, presented by Mr. Rauf Symson, to a chantry in York cathedral. Although the matter belongs to him and the chapter jointly, sent to inquire about it, and found that Mr. Symson has presented him to a chantry which is not within the church of York, and one William Home has presented to the very chantry, whereto we should admit one that the master of St. Christophers' guild should present by the consent of certain aldermen of the same, and the same aldermen are named in both presentations. For this reason the Dean's officers would admit neither of them, but offered to each a commission to enquire about the right of patronage. This Roger Cawton declined, and the other accepted. Thinks Mr. Symson has presented wrongly. Thornton, 23 Oct. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. : Mr. Thos. Cromwell, councillor to the King's highness.
23 Oct.
R. O.
487. Sir Henry Norris to Fowler, Vice-Treasurer of Calais.
The King commands you, as soon as you have any leisure, to come over and bring with you all the King's money. Havering of the Bower, 23 Oct. Signed.
P. 1. Add.
24 Oct.
Vienna Archives.
488. Chapuys to Charles V.
On Thursday morning the bishop of Bayonne and John Joachin came to see me on their return from Court; and the former told me, among other matters, that his master, hearing of the capture of Modon, considered it ought to be either a very great good or a very great evil for Christendom, and that the good would consist in keeping it surely, otherwise it would be an irritation and a bait to Naples, Sicily, Sardinia, and Spain, (he said nothing of France,) signifying that it was no concern, &c.; that the King his master had plenty of men able for war, but your Majesty had taken away the feathers which would enable them to fly; that he had too good reason to be satisfied with such a realm as his own, and to thank God for having taken from him that which kept him and his kingdom in continual trouble; and that he desired henceforth to live in amity with those who wished it, and to defend himself against those who would attack him, &c. The Bishop said also that the King his master had been quite astonished when the seigneur de Balanon proposed the interview to him,a thing of which he had never dreamed, and that the Queen had altogether disavowed having suggested it; and he ridiculed what had been published about it. I dissembled what I was informed of the case, the better to learn his fantasy, and not to get into a dispute with him. Afterwards he declared to me the difficulty they had had in finding gold of such alloy as was agreed at Cambray for the redemption of the lands delivered up by them, complaining of the rigor which had been used to them in this matter, which injured them to the extent of 50,000 cr. without benefit to your Majesty.
There was no necessity for him to discover his charge to me as he did on his former mission, and I can only suppose he came to take away the suspicion and jealousy of those here about the proposed interview, and also to excuse the delay of the payment of the pension here, which ought to have been paid on the 1st May last, and was delayed till a few days ago, and even now there is a good sum wanting. I know not if, on the ground that their gold is not of good alloy to pay you, they mean to borrow of the King, or ask prolongation of the term, which falls due at All Saints next. There is no means of getting at the truth of affairs, the Court being at a distance, and few men of the Court come to me. Those who do, wish to be drawn by pensions, and some of them are indignant that old pensions are not continued to them. Bayonne tells me he has informed this King of the exequies your Majesty had made for madame the Regent, (fn. 3) and the King would have liked to know the order of the ceremonies, as he means to do the same; of which nothing was said before Bayonne's arrival. The Eve of St. Simon is the day appointed for it.
On the said Thursday after dinner I went to visit the said Bishop in order to draw something further from him. I was accompanied by the ambassadors of Milan and Venice, whom I met on the way. Bayonne repeated what he had said in the morning about Moden, exaggerating still more the duty of your Majesty in the matter, and reflecting on the idleness of your Majesty's men in Italy, and of Andrea Doria, who, he said, called himself King of the sea, to spite the Venetians, &c. These armies in Italy seemed to weigh upon him as if they were on his shoulders. He called Doria a traitor, but, when asked to state in what, was silent. On my leaving him he said he would return to Court on Saturday, and if there was any occasion to speak again he would come to me. On Saturday he left after dinner. Yesterday (Sunday) the King came to the lodging of Brian Tuke, where the said Bayonne and John Joachin were lodged, a mile from the King's lodging, and supped there with much company. Above the table were the King, the lady, and Bayonne; below it, John Joachin, Norfolk, Wiltshire, and his wife, the secretary elect of Winchester, the treasurer Fitzwilliam, and two ladies. And, after great cheer, Bayonne was despatched, who is now returned, and, as I understand, will leave as early as possible tomorrow.
On Friday I sent one of my men to Court to the duke of Norfolk to recommend to him the widow and children of Capt. Charran, a Biscayan, as instructed by your Majesty. The Duke willingly and at once spoke to the King, who replied that there was nothing due to the said captain or his men, for his wages had been always paid. After that the Duke, asking news of my man, told him I perceived that what he had sent to me to say touching the interview of your Majesty and the king of France had proved true, and that there had been no question of it in France; for if it had been so, they would have been informed of it, their relations with France being so intimate, and their friendship daily increasing. This he repeated more than ten times, praying God he would extend and multiply such friendship with all the other princes. On my man remarking it was not your Majesty's fault if it was so, for your only aim was peace and union in Christendom, he made no reply, but began again to magnify the friendship of his master with France, of which he could not speak enough.
The Queen is still where she used to be, and there is no question the King wants her near him. The Parliament has again been prolonged to the 15th Jan. Perhaps they are waiting till your Majesty goes further away before beginning. The King has been in great anxiety, fearing a movement of the Scots, but he is relieved by a very gracious letter written to him by the king of Scots, over which, I am told, he has rejoiced as much as if he had received news of the conquest of a great country. A watch has been set on the coast, for fear of the fleet of the king of Denmark; and the King has refused to allow five English ships laden at London to leave for Flanders till it is known what route the said fleet will take. The Londoners, notwithstanding the danger, have made great solicitation to be allowed to go, complaining that it will be the ruin of a thousand persons; which shows clearly they cannot maintain themselves here without the traffic of Flanders. This will, perhaps, make them careful in future not to attempt anything that may interrupt the said traffic.
They have three times sent from here to Rome the process which was ventilated (ventil) here between the King and Queen; and as Mai writes none of these has reached him, I send now another. I beg your Majesty will see that it is conveyed surely, as it is the foundation of the affair, and sentence cannot be given without it. London, 24 Oct. '31.
Hol., Fr, pp. 4. From a modern copy.
24 Oct.
Add. MS. 28,584, f. 16. B. M.
489. Dr. Ortiz to Charles V.
"After the conclusion of the vacancies (vacation) the English ambassador and his assistants delivered, instead of a regular power, a letter from the king of England, a copy of which goes enclosed in this. The want of respect and common courtesy in the letter of the king of England is astounding. The letter has not been admitted as a valid authorisation of his agents. The ambassador will write more.
"Has received from Pope Adrian, when he was in Paris, a preferment in Spain. Don Martin de Mendoza, son of the Duke del Infantazgo, has deprived him by force of that preferment. Hopes justice will be done. Rome, 24 Oct. 1531."
English abstract from original at Simancas.
24 Oct.
Add. MS. 28,584, f. 17. B. M.
490. Francis I. and Charles I.
"Relacion de las cartas del cardenal d'Osma, 24 de Otubre." (fn. 4) The Pope and all Italy knows that the reason why the French king would not come to the interview was not the excuse he made of his mother's death, but that he was prevented by the Emperor from speaking of particular things. All are sure that what the Emperor has written about the interview is true. The Pope has said that he knows that the king of England believes the same in secret, although the French king has caused it to be said to the ambassadors in his Court, and has written to the Pope and to Venice, that he did not desire an interview. His Holiness and [the cardinal of Osma] think that the Emperor should wink at it, as every one knows by letters from France that it is as the Emperor wrote.
Sp., p. 1, modern copy.
24 Oct.
Add. MS. 28,584, f. 18. B. M.
491. Mai to Los Cobos.
At the beginning of the audiences and of this October, during my illness, I sent for the Queen's lawyers, and procured the examination of a witness whose citation could not be found in the process, and of five or six others, very much to the point. As I had previously exerted myself to obtain fair play in the process, I caused sentence to be demanded, hoping for the original process, for which I have written so often, and without which nothing can be done. An English doctor opposed, who formerly appeared in the character of excusator without having a commission, and now produced one (of which a copy is enclosed),the vilest that could be made or thought of. Beside this they produced two dozen other frauds and villanies. As one half desperate I sent to complain to the Pope by the bishop of Vaison. Afterwards at the palace I spoke to him in the severest terms I knew, because in truth his Holiness proceeds rather tediously. Caused the Rota to be informed of the justice of our case, and asked what the others alleged. Found means to make them withdraw (hurtar) one of their allegations. They are nothing but tricks to cause delay. Though we have pressed it, no declaration has been given about this article, and we are now at the end of the month. Will do all I can, both with the Rota and the Pope. I think it would be well either for you to write to his Holiness, or to cause a letter to be written to me, blaming me for the delay, so that I shall have grounds for speaking in a higher tone.
I hear for certain that the king of England has ordered his ambassadors to refuse their consent, if it is declared that the case must be proceeded with in Rome, because he holds the Pope for a public enemy. These terrors are being printed here, and it is necessary to publish something to encourage our side.
Asks the Emperor to send on information to the ambassador in England. Complains about his private affairs. Rome, 24 Oct. 1531.
Sp., pp. 4, modern copy.
24 Oct.
Add. MS. 28,584, f. 20. B. M.
492. Dr. Ortiz to Eustace Capacho (Chapuys).
Received on 13 Sept. his letter of 30 July, referring him to his letter to the ambassador (Mai), who, he thinks, has answered it. Has received no other letter from England, but understands from his Majesty's letter that the Queen was not living at the court. Heard since that she has left her own household in some distress.
Has been with the Pope for two hours explaining the fallacies of the book in the King's favor. Exaggerated the evil which will result from delay, and explained that his Holiness is bound to send the King a strict prohibition with sentence of excommunication for that wench (aquella manceba) [Anne Boleyn]; and that, in consequence of this public sin in England and scandal to all the world, although witnesses of it are not produced, he ought to send an inhibition, and order it be communicated to the Queen. In truth, he is well disposed to do this, and told us to demand it on the Queen's behalf; but it is necessary that he should not wait to be asked. Told the Ambassador immediately of the Pope's readiness to grant this instrument. Now the vacation is over, hopes it will be asked for in four or five days, although the Ambassador is ill. The delay has not been his (Ortiz's) fault.
Sent by the last two posts certain writings to be given to Fisher. Asks if Chapuys has received them. Wishes to have the rest of Fisher's apology. Desires to be recommended to the Queen.
The Pope tells him that the witnesses of whom the Nuncio wrote to the Pope, and who testify that prince Arthur was impotent, are insufficient, because the party was not cited by a competent judge. The Queen need not be distressed at this, because the cardinal of Compostella has used great diligence in Spain about the compulsoriales; and even though the marriage was consummated, it does not affect the case, which depends on the fact that affinity is prohibited solely by canon law, of which there is proof. Does not write to the Queen, as he does not know her present style. Asks Chapuys to tell her the substance of this.
Since writing the above, the English ambassador and his companions have presented the King's letter, of which he sends a copy. They wished to use this as a commission, but information has been laid that it is not sufficient. The Pope tells him that the Ambassadors showed him a letter from the King, stating that the Queen was honored and served as before, and denying what was said about her here. Rome, 24 Oct. 1531.
Sp., pp. 4, modern copy.
24 Oct. Add. MS. 28,584, f. 22. B. M. 493. Muxetula to Charles V.
The Emperor's letters of 28 Sept. about not holding the interview, have arrived, and at the same time letters came from the Nuncio in France to the Pope with news of the death of the Lady Regent. This, he said, was only a pretext for the French king's refusing the interview; the real cause of which was the Emperor's answer to the man of the queen of England, and the conditions proposed for the interview, which Francis thought would prevent the result he hoped for. The Pope and all men of judgment are of the same opinion.
Subsequently letters have come from France and England, by which the two Kings order their ambassadors to tell the Pope that the king of France never intended to have an interview with the Emperor, and the Pope should not believe what other people say. Thinks the English ambassadors said that the King wrote that the Pope should not believe these inventions. The French king said the same to the Ambassadors there. They write this because the English ambassador was discontented to hear that the French king had sent to arrange the interview, and thought it contrary to the friendship between the two Kings to proceed in such an affair without Henry's consent.
The king of England wishes to show the Pope that he is allied with the king of France, and to frighten him into complying with his wishes in the marriage case. Thinks he wrote this letter to make the Pope think that the interview was against the will of Francis.
The Pope said he had hoped that some good effect would have resulted from the interview, and he knew that the real state of the case was what the Emperor had written.
He said also that the king of England had agreed with the French king to make war on the Emperor, saying they could do him much harm by sea in those parts (Flanders); but Francis thought they had better wait till the Emperor was in greater necessity. Repeats the Pope's remarks about the Emperor's going to Spain and the diet of Spires. Rome, 24 Oct. 1531.
Sp., pp. 6, modern copy.
24 Oct.
P. S.
494. French Ambassadors.
1. Passport for the bishop of Bayonne, the French ambassador, on his return to the French king, with his servants, 12 horses, 12 mastiffs or greyhounds, and baggage. Havering, 22 Oct. 23 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 24 Oct.
Fr. roll 23 Hen. VIII. m. 1.
P. S. 2. Safe-conduct for the abbot of Charlyons (Chailly), father of the order of Cisteaux, to pass and repass through the realm into Scotland and France, with 8 horses, and his chaplains and servants. Also for dane Johne Prevorste and dame (sic) Princius, his chaplains, who have lately come to England with 2 horses and 2 servants, to return. Havering, 23 Oct. 23 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 24 Oct.
Fr. roll 23 Hen. VIII. m. 1.
R. O. 3. Modern copies of the above passports, from the Privy Seals. (fn. 5)
25 Oct.
R. O.
495. The Swiss.
Duplicate of a letter from the sieur Maigriet(?) and d'Augeraut, ambassadors of the [French?] king in Switzerland, to Mons. Le Grave.
Had heard from "our" man at camp that the Five Cantons had again defeated and killed 6,000 (sic) of the men of Zurich, and taken 12 pieces of artillery. It seems that those of Zurich, not being able to injure the others on account of the strength of their position and their discipline, took counsel with those of Berne, but after divers opinions those of Zurich resolved without the consent of the Bernese to stay (?) ("demorir") the above 6,000 men, to gain the height of the mountain above the camp. The Five Cantons hearing of this, a good part of their army rose without artillery, and went to meet them at a narrow defile, where the said artillery and they (of Zurich) had to pass, when the engagement took place. The exact loss cannot be known on one side or other. The colours lost are of Zurich, Basle, Schaffhausen, Mlhausen, Thurguril, Thoquembourg. Those of Berne have lost nothing; are displeased with those of Zurich for their bad management, and are bent on revenge; but their opinion may change, considering their great loss. They make no demonstrations as yet of marching hither beyond the Rigi. The Five Cantons keep such good order that the enemy can learn nothing of their affairs. They have sent home all the old and young men unable to bear arms, and sworn never to desert each other, even to death; "et que si le enfant voit son peer abatu, ne le peer le filz, ne se doibvent amuser a le ayder relever; mais chacun orroit son attent contre leurs ennemys la poursuicte de la victorie." Solleure, 25 Oct.
Fr., p. 1. Endd. : Double de letres des ambasatuer pour le Ry en Faisse (Suisse) a Mons. Le Grave."
25 Oct.
R. O. Ellis, 3 Ser. I. 340.
496. Gregory Cromwell to Cromwell.
Desires his blessing, which is more valuable than all earthly goods. Applies his book diligently. Has received his token by Dr. Bekynsall. When the latter was at Topsfylde he made the writer and all his fellows great cheer, and gave him a crown to spend. Topsfylde, 25 Oct. Signed.
Hol., p. 1. Add. : To his right worshipful father, Mr. Crumwell.
25 Oct.
P. S.
497. Ambassadors Of Cleves.
For Wm. count de Nova Aquila, lord de Bedber, and John Goegreff lord of Angermont, chancellor of the duke of Cleves.
Safe-conduct to come to England, with 30 persons in their company, and to pass to and fro. [No date.] Del. Westm., 25 Oct. 23 Hen. VIII.
Fr. roll 23 Hen. VIII. m. 1.
26 Oct.
R. O.
498. Lady Margaret Douglas.
Warrant to lord Windsor, keeper of the Great Wardrobe, to deliver to the bearer, for the use of lady Margaret, daughter of the queen of Scots, a gown of tynsen, of 11 yds.; a black velvet gown, of 11 yds., furred with powdered ermine; a gown of black damask, of 11 yds.; kirtles and sleeves of crimson satin, black velvet, and black satin, of 7 yds. each; yd. crimson satin, and yd. white satin, for parteletts; yd. black velvet, and yd. crimson satin, for "abelements"; 30 ells of Holland cloth, for rails, kerchers, and smocks; 30 clls of Holland cloth for sheets; 2 black velvet French hoods; 12 pair of hose; 6 pair of black velvet shoes; 8 pair of leather shoes; 6 lawn partletts; 4 oz. of lacing riband, and for garters; one piece of broad riband for girdles; 2 lb. of pins; 12 pair of gloves; 1 lb. of thread; 100 needles; 2 brushes, and a standard, 1 yd. by yd. For each of her two gentlewomen : 3 yards of black cloth, at 6s. 8d., for gowns, with 2 yards of tawny velvet for lining; 2 ells of worsted for kirtles; 1 yd. of black velvet for sleeves; 1 yd. of black velvet for partletts; a black velvet bonnet with crimson velvet frontlet; a plait of lawn; 6 pair of hose; 8 pair of shoes; 20 ells of Holland cloth, at 20d., for rails and kerchers; 12 ells of Holland cloth, at 12d., for smocks, and 2 lb. of pins. For her servant : 3 yds. of cloth, at 6s. 8d., for a coat; 3 yds. of black satin, at 7s., for a doublet; 9 ells of Holland cloth, at 12d., for 3 shirts; 3 pair of hose, at 4s.; 8 pair of shoes; and one bonnet, at 3s. 4d. Lord Windsor is also ordered to pay for the making, &c. Waltham Abbey, 26 Oct. 23 Hen. VIII. Signed at top.
26 Oct.
Vesp. F. XIII. 153 b. B. M.
499. Sir Thomas Cheyne to Cromwell.
Hears that Haselwood intends on Thursday next to proceed with this jury, contrary to the promise he made to Cromwell last term. Trusted never to have heard of the matter again, but only to have received the 120l. he agreed to pay me.
Desires credence for the bearer, and continuance of favor. 26 Oct.
Hol., p. 1. Add. : To the right worshipful Master Cromwell, of the King's most honorable council.
27 Oct.
R. O.
500. George Hennage, priest, to Cromwell.
Whereas you wrote to me for the next advowson of the subdeanery and prebend of All Hallows, Derby. I can do nothing but comply and send my seal for that purpose. I beg you to consider how I am highly wronged by the vicar of Chesterfield, as you learn by your old acquaintance, my brother Thos. Hennage. If you will be good to me in the premises, you will bind me to you for life. Lincoln, 27 Oct.
Mr. Rud, my counsel, will give you further information.
Hol., p. 1. Add. : Right honorable.
28 Oct.
R. O.
501. Robert Abbot Of Athelney to Cromwell.
Returned the obligation sent by Cromwell, sealed with the convent seal, binding them to pay 200 marks to the King's use at times specified, though, considering the great sums the King has had of them by often changes of abbots, and that never was abbot before sessed so high, no abbot in the realm will lead a poorer life for the next seven years. His house is above 1,500 marks in debt, and his receipt is not quite 220l. a year. Hopes to pay every man in seven years, though he himself eat bread and water two days a week. Desires a licence of non-residence for three years, having a large offer for the finding of himself and his servants for that term, though he does not mean to be so long absent. Athelney, the Feast of SS. Simon and Jude.
Hol., p. 1. Add. : To the right hon. and his singular good master, Mr. Cromwell.
30 Oct.
Camusat, Mesl. Hist., Lettres de Fras. I. 66.
502. Berthereau to the Bishop Of Auxerre.
Since Albany's arrival, who has been five or six days in the Court, the Grand Master has done as D'Auxerre wished. The Duke has reported well of his conduct. Madame de Fontainebleau died at Grais, two or three leagues from Fontainebleau, and was buried at St. Denys last week. The King, who after her death had stayed at Chantilly, has now come hither to the Queen and his children. Mons. de Bayonne has gone to England for a few days, and Mons. d'Avranches to Switzerland. Compiegne, 30 Oct. (1531 in margin.)
31 Oct.
Add. MS. 8,173, f. 242. B. M.
503. Commercial Treaties.
Instructions to Eustace Chappuys, master of requests, ambassador in England, and John de le Shauch, secretary and comptroller of the seal (seaul) of the Emperor, to be shown to the king of England and the Council.
After presenting their letters of credence, they shall remind the king of the charge given to Rosinbo when he came to take the King's oath after the treaty of Cambray, to ask for a diet to settle the complaints of merchants. When the Emperor arrived in the Low Countries, a diet was again requested, as the merchants were seriously injured by the distribution of wool at Calais and new imposts. They must try to obtain such a diet as early as possible, If the English are reluctant, they may say that the Emperor is only bound by the treaty of 1520, and the following one, to continue the intercourse for five years, which are expired, and he must provide for the indemnity of his subjects. Brussels, 31 Oct. 1531.
Fr., modern copy, pp. 6.
Add. MS. 28,173, f. 245. B. M. 2. Instructions to Jehan de le Sauch, secretary "en ordonnance" of the Emperor, to be shown to the king of England.
He is to declare to the King that at the Emperor's coming to the Low Countries, his subjects exhibited (fn. 6) to him an article of the treaty at Cambray, 5 Aug. ao 19 (sic, 1529), stating that mercantile intercourse should be in accordance with the treaty of London, 11 April, l'an '20.
This treaty is only provisional, and concerns the difference about the treaty "de lan 5o 6" (1506), by which the merchants of the Low Countries are much affected, both in respect of cloth, the staple of Calais, and London mercery. The Emperor has hitherto deferred providing for this, but has promised to try and obtain from the king of England a diet to settle these matters. The Ambassador and Le Sauch are to request the King to name a day,the diet to be held as shortly as possible, and in the Low Countries, as the last two or three meetings have been held in England or Calais.
Fr., modern copy, pp. 3.
Ib., f. 281. 3. Another copy, headed, apparently by the transcriber, 12 July 1533.
Add. MS. 28,584, f. 4. B. M. 504. Charles V. (fn. 7)
Touching the marriage of England and the marriage of the Pope's niece, as the Legate is satisfied with the Emperor's verbal answer, there is no need to say more, except to reply to the ministers of Rome. *
Sp., pp. 12.

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505. Edward Lee, Archbishop Of York Elect.
Memoranda for my lord of York elect, "of such trespass as be committed and done within the scawme, and outwards appertaining to the manor of Caywod in Yorkshire." Presented by John Maunsell, officer there.
Large paper, p. 1.
Oct./Grants. 506. Grants in October 1531.
1. Christopher Montaborino, a native of Cologne, in the dominions of the Emperor. Denization. Monastery of Chertsey, 18 July 23 Hen. VIII. Del. Chelsea, 4 Oct.P.S. Pat. p. 2, m. 3.
2. Henry Johnson. To be a gunner in the Tower of London, with 12d. a day. Monastery of Waltham, 21 Sept. 23 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 5 Oct.P.S.
3. Benedict Justinian, a Genoese merchant. Appointment as master, protector, or consul of all merchants and others the King's subjects in the island or city of Syo. Waltham, 25 Sept. 23 Hen. VIII. Del. Chelsea, 5 Oct.P.S. Pat. p. 2, m 32. Printed in Rymer, vol. XIV. p. 424.
4. Wm. lord Grey. To be lieutenant of the castle of Hammes vice Wm. lord Mountjoy. Commission to John lord Berners, deputy, Edmund lord Haward, comptroller, Sir John Wallop, lieutenant, and Sir Edward Ringley, marshal of Calais, to receive and deliver the custody of the said castle. Waltham, 4 Oct. 23 Hen. VIII. Del. Chelsea, 6 Oct.P.S.
5. Silvanus Clyfton, clk. Presentation to the free chapel of Norbiton, near Kyngeston, Winchester dioc., void by the resignation of Edmund Thurlond. Waltham, 3 Oct. 23 Hen. VIII. Del. Chelsea, 6 Oct.P.S.
6. Edmund Thurland. Presentation to the church of Clifton, York. dioc., void by resignation of Silvanus Clifton, and in the King's hands by reason of the minority of Gervase, s. and h. of Robt. Clifton. Waltham, 3 Oct. 23 Hen. VIII. Del. Chelsea, 6 Oct.P.S.
7. Sir Peter Philpott. Licence to alienate the manor of Penyngton, and 12 messuages, 300 acres of land, 100 acres of meadow, 200 acres of pasture, 60 acres of wood, and 3s. rent in Penyngton, and the advowson of Penyngton church, to Edward Marvyn, serjeant-at-law, William Bowlett, jun., Ralph Bexall, Nicholas Tycheborne, sen., John Kyngesmyll, John White, George Caylway, John Nivedale, Nicholas Tycheborne, jun., and William Bene. Westm., 10 Oct.Pat. 23 Hen. VIII. p. 1, m. 13.
8. Roger Hachman, one of the yeomen of the Guard. Grant of a fishery in the river Thames at Shillingford (Oxon and Berks), with the ditches and creeks thereto belonging, called "Huddesbut," with meadows adjoining the said Huddesbut (Oxon), and three acres of meadow in Woddeford, now in the King's hands by reason of the suppression of the priory of Wallyngford (Berks), of the annual value of 40s. 4d. Also grant to the said Roger of the office of wood-ward or keeper of the great wood called "le priory wood," lying between Huntercombeend and Cokeley, in the King's hands by the same cause. Waltham, 8 Oct. 23 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 10 Oct.P.S. Pat. p. 2, m. 8.
9. William Conyers, of Marske (York.), one of the esquires of the Body. Lease of all lead mines in the wastes, moors, and heaths within the said lordship, and the New Forest in co. York, for the term of 40 years, at the annual rent of 3l. 3s. 4d., payable to the receiver of the lordships of Middleham and Arclegarthdale and the New Forest aforesaid. This lease is granted in consideration of expences sustained by him in searching for lead mines in the wastes, moors, and heaths in the lordship of Arclegarthdale and the New Forest in co. York. from 1 Hen. VIII. East Hampstead, 7 Aug. 22 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 12 Oct. 23 Hen. VIII.P.S. Pat. p. 1, m. 20.
10. Thomas Curwen, esquire of the Royal Body. Grant of the offices of steward of the lordship, and constable of the castle of Shyrefhoton, with the usual fees, and the pannage and herbage of Shyrefhoton park; on surrender of patent 5 March 11 Hen. VIII., granting the same to Sir Robert Constable. Hampton Court, 15 June 23 Hen. VIII., Del. Westm., 12 Oct.P.S. Pat. p. 1, m. 23.
11. William Symondson alias Marchaunte, of Donmowe (Essex), yeoman. Pardon for having, with Thomas Clynton of London, yeoman, on the 26 March 19 Hen. VIII., broken the close and house of Richard Riche, at Shelley, Essex, and taken away several articles. Greenwich, 22 April 22 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 13 Oct. 23 Hen. VIII.P.S. Pat. p. 1, m. 9.
12. The Prior and Convent of Berden. Impeximus and confirmation of pat 20 Mar. 7 Edw. III., being a mortmain licence to Robert de Rocheford to grant land, &c. in Berden to the said priory. Westm., 14 Oct. Pat. 23 Hen. VIII. p. 1, m. 9.
13. John Holder, clk., rector of Gamlegay (Camb., Ely dioc.). Licence to absent himself from the church of Gamlegay or any other that he may in future possess, and dwell in any monastery, hospital, collegiate or parish church. Waltham, 11 Oct. 23 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 14 Oct.P.S. Pat. p. 2, m. 12.
14. Dean and Canons of the Chapel Royal of St. Stephen in Westminster Palace. Inspeximus and confirmation. i. Charter 17 Feb. 25 Edw. III., being a grant of a market and fair to the prior of Franton. ii. Charter 22 Feb. 17 Hen. VI., granting the said market and fair to the dean and canons of the said chapel, the priory of Frampton having been seized into the hands of the King's ancestors. Westm., 15 Oct.Pat. 23 Hen. VIII. p. 1, m. 9.
15. Edmund Copyndale. Annuity of 70s. out of the issues of one messuage, 2 cottages, 2 bovates of land, 5 closes, the third part of the third part of 3 messuages, 2 bovates and 3 roods of land in Owtenowton, York.; 1 bovate of land in Sporteley, bovate of land in Owtenowton, and a piece of pasture in Everyngham, York., lately belonging to John Goxell, deceased; with the wardship and marriage of Alice Goxell, d. and h. of the said John, during the minority of the said heir. Waltham, 14 Oct. 23 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 16 Oct.P.S. Pat. p. 1, m. 21.
16. Thos. earl of Wiltshire and Ormond. Grant of the parks called "le Posterne" and "le Cage," Kent, late of the d. of Buckingham, to him and his heirs male, and in default, to his d. Anne Boleyn. Waltham, 13 Oct. 23 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 16 Oct. P.S.
17. Richard Biawoir, native of Normandy. Denization. Westm., 17 Oct. Pat. 23 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 9.
18. Sir Robert Nevyll, of Lyversege, Yorks. Exemption from serving on juries, or as sheriff or escheator. Waltham, 14 Oct. 23 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 17 Oct. P.S.
19. Edmund Copyndale. Annuity of 106s. 8d. out of the issues of the manor of Lupsed, York, late of John Savell, deceased, during the minority of Henry Savell, s. and h. of the said John; with the wardship and marriage of the said heir. Waltham, 16 Oct. 23 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 18 Oct.P.S. Pat. p. 1, m. 21.
20. Anthony Kyngeston, one of the King's stewards. Grant of the annual rent or farm of 11l. due from Sir William Kyngeston and Edward Tame, for the manors of Rentcombe and Northcerney, and 1 tenement with 80 acres of arable land and pasture called Veymours, and 25 acres of arable land in a field called Woodmancotefeld in Rentcombe and Northcerney, parcel of the lands of Edward late duke of Buckingham, attainted, Glouc., in the King's hands by the death of Eleanor late duchess of Buckingham, which manors, &c., with reservations, were leased to the said William and Edmund for 21 years by pat. 22 Hen. VIII.; to hold the said annual rent during the said term, with the reversion of the premises on the expiration of the lease. Woodstock, 17 Aug. 23 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 19 Oct.P.S. Pat. p. 1, m. 10.
21. Nicholas Fytton. Annuity of 4l. and 8d., and wardships. [Same as in Pat. dated 3 Nov.] Monastery of Waltham, 14 Oct. 23 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 21 Oct. P.S.
22. Cumberland :Commission to Thos. Lamplewe, Ant. Porter, and Will. Omonderley to make inquisition p. m. on the lands and heir of Joan Lamplewe, widow. Westm., 24 Oct.Pat. 23 Hen. VIII. p. 1, m. 32d.
23. Nicholas de Lannoy of Flanders. Denization. Havering, 22 Oct. 23 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 26 Oct.P.S.
24. John Perpoynt. Grant, in reversion, of the office of serjeant of Wigmoreslond, Salop, marches of Wales, which was granted by pat. 23 Aug. 12 Hen. VIII. to Geoffrey Hopkyns; with fees of 20s. a year. Havering, 21 Oct. 23 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 27 Oct.P.S. Pat. p. 1, m. 10, and p. 2, m. 29.
25. Henry Norres, squire of the Body. To be chamberlain of North Wales; with the usual fees out of the issues of the principality, as enjoyed by Sir Gilbert Talbott, Sir Richard Pole or Sir William Griffith, or any other chamberlain of North Wales. Monastery of Waltham, 26 Oct. 23 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 28 Oct.P.S. Pat. p. 1, m. 8.
26. Henry marquis of Exeter. Licence to alienate the manor or capital messuage called Dyphams, in the parish of Edelmeton, Midd., and all messuages, &c. thereto belonging, now in the tenure of one Henry Parpoynte, to Roger Cholmeley, Robert Wrothe, John Densell, Richard Bellamy, John Foxe, and George Oglander, and their heirs, to the use of Richard Haukes and his heirs for ever. Westm., 29 Oct.Pat. 23 Hen. VIII. p. 1, m. 13.
27. John Say, tenant of the manors of Boxe and Hodesdon (Herts). Inspeximus and confirmation of charter 22 Jan. 37 Hen. III., granting to Richard de Boxe and his heirs free warren in the demesne lands of said manors. Westm., 29 Oct.Pat. 23 Hen. VIII. p. 1, m. 18.
28. Giles Billeheult, clk., native of Normandy. Denization, with licence to hold benefices in England. Monastery of Waltham, 14 Oct. 23 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 30 Oct.P.S. Pat. p. 2, m. 8.
29. Edward Goldesburgh, one of the King's serjeants-at-arms. Grant, in fee, of 1 messuage, 9 bovates of land, and 3 several enclosures containing 10 acres of pasture in Foxholes (York), which came to the King's hands because John Dixon, an alien, born subject of James king of Scots, acquired the premises, without licence, from William Nicholson, as appears by an inquisition taken 10 June last, before Thomas Wentworth, escheator. Monastery of Waltham, 24 Oct. 23 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 30 Oct. P.S. Pat. p. 2, m. 8.
30. Geo. Woodward and Ric. Woodward, his son, one of the pages of the King's chamber. Grant, in survivorship, of the office of clerk or clerk constable of Wyndesour Castle, as enjoyed by the said George alone or John Gansem; on surrender of pat. 28 Oct. 1 Hen. VIII., granting the office during good conduct to the said George alone. Monastery of Waltham, 16 Oct. 23 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 31 Oct.P.S. Pat. p. 1, m. 11.


  • 1. Probably Chr. Wellyfed, eldest son of William and Eliz. Wellyfed. See vol. IV. 5772
  • 2. In Essex, near Castle Hedingham, the seat of the earl of Oxford.
  • 3. Louisa of Savoy died on the 23rd Sept. 1531.
  • 4. The letter is printed at length in Heine's Letters of Cardinal of Osma, p. 117.
  • 5. Other copies will be found in Titus, B. I. 213, 225.
  • 6. remonstreront in both copies, but apparently an error for remonstrerent.
  • 7. Extract from deliberations at Brussels touching the memorials of the Legate and letters from Naples, dated 8 Oct. 1531.