Henry VIII: December 1533, 21-25

Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 6, 1533. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1882.

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, 'Henry VIII: December 1533, 21-25', in Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 6, 1533, (London, 1882) pp. 626-631. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/letters-papers-hen8/vol6/pp626-631 [accessed 18 May 2024].

. "Henry VIII: December 1533, 21-25", in Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 6, 1533, (London, 1882) 626-631. British History Online, accessed May 18, 2024, https://www.british-history.ac.uk/letters-papers-hen8/vol6/pp626-631.

. "Henry VIII: December 1533, 21-25", Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 6, 1533, (London, 1882). 626-631. British History Online. Web. 18 May 2024, https://www.british-history.ac.uk/letters-papers-hen8/vol6/pp626-631.

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December 1533, 21-25

31 Dec.
R. O.
1549. The Minister, Warden, And Friars Of Greenwich to Henry VIII.
Entreat that they may be pardoned anything wherein they have offended. Protest that they wish to live peacefully under him, and obey him in all things consistent with their rule. In witness whereof they all sign. 21 Dec. 1533. [No signatures.]
Lat., p. 1. Add. at head of letter.
21 Dec.
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1550. Arthur Lord Lisle to [Cromwell].
I beg you at your leisure to move Sir John Dudley in my behalf. My late wife left me during my life such lands as I now enjoy, which I have recovered to my own use for term of my life and after, until the fulfilment of certain bequests. Sir John Dudley has sold the reversion of those lands to Sir Edw. Semer, who now lays claim to 55l. of the same lands, saying that they are not comprised in the recovery ; at which I marvel not a little. I shall be glad if you will ask Sir John Dudley to desire my lord of Norfolk, who is the surveyor of the feoffees, to confirm my state in the said lands during life. Calais, 21 Dec. 1533. Signed.
P. 1.

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1551. Lisle and Seymour.
Complaint of viscount Lisle against Sir Edw. Seymour for having got him to seal an indenture to his own prejudice, in the belief that it only concerned the purchase from Sir John Dudley of the reversion of the manors of Norton Beauchampe, Lympisham, Tornok, Saundeford, Abell, and Brigewater, Soms., to which it was necessary that he should give his assent.
Large paper, pp. 4, mutilated.
R. O. 2. A valor of the possessions of Sir John Dudley, kt., and his heirs, and of those in the hands of Arthur Viscount Lysley. Total, 1,385l. 8s. 8d.
Pp. 2.
21 Dec.
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1552. Thomas Speke to Lord [Lisle], Deputy of Calais.
I thank you for your kind letter by the bearer, and your warrant of protection. Your request that I would be your friend if you had business in Somersetshire was unnecessary ; you may command me at all times. I have not seen Sir Will. Stourton, but will give him your message when I do. I beg your horse buyer will bestow this 20l. in horses for me, one of them to be of the largest sort, and that you will appoint me a keeper for them. Whytlakyngton, 21 Dec. Signed.
P. 1. Add.
22 Dec.
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1553. [Lord Lisle] to Mons. Du Vrolant.
I am informed that Adrian Doggan, of Calais, once obtained from those of your court some certificate touching the birth of one Adrian Lynnet, and that they have since given another to Thos. Prestwich, now deceased, the husband of the daughter of the said Doggan, which disagrees with the former. For this reason the said Doggan wishes to go to your court, and prove his own certificate against the other, and examine further witnesses, as I understand he has examined some at Arras. I beg you to give him facilities. Calais, 22 Dec. [Not signed.]
Fr., p. 1. In the hand of Lisle's clerk. Add.
22 Dec.
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1554. John [Stokesley], Bishop of London, to Cromwell.
Whereas it pleased you to send your letters to Mr. Alex. Ratclif for attaching my late servant Laurence, who robbed me of 100l. of the King's money, and the same thief is now taken in the parts of Manchester, and brought to London : I desire you to take such order with him "that I may be restored to the King's money." Fulham, 22 Dec.
Hol., p. 1. Add. : Of the Council.

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1555. Laurence Elveden to Cromwell.
I beg you to be good master to me, once the unworthy servant of the bishop of London ; and whereas I am now in the King's Bench, in great misery, without any friends, and am like to be cast away by infirmities, that you will be gracious unto me, as it was my first offence, and I intend to make amends to his Lordship. My former master will agree to your decision.
Hol., p. 1. Add. at the head : To the right hon. Mr. Cromwell. Endd. : Supplication of the false knave the bishop of London's servant.
22 Dec.
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1556. Wm. Lord Sandys to Cromwell.
Whereas the King is pleased to license me to continue here for this season until the beginning of Parliament, in consideration of my age and sickness : I beg you will make my excuse to the King for my absence. At the Vine, 22 Dec. Signed.
P. 1. Add. : Mr. Cromwell of the Council.
22 Dec.
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1557. Roger Abbot Of Furness to Cromwell.
Has received his letters by Thos. Cokett, servant of the abbot of Holme, and a monk named Gawyn Borodall, with certain articles which he has charged Borodall with. He denied every article, and asked for the benefit of the law. He is a masterful man, and hath secret bearers. Afterwards sent for two monks of the Holm, conversant with him, and examined them. The abbots of Fontaunce and Byland had this matter in examination at the creation of the last abbot, and will disdain his meddling, they being reformators and visitors of the religion.
Asks how he shall keep Borodayll. Puts him in prison at night, and during the day he goes to the church, and "melleth with no person" except the prior. Does not think the truth will be known unless Cromwell has Borodayll before him in London. Fourneys, 22 Dec.
P. 1, hol. Add. : To the right worshipful Sir Thos. Cromwell, knight. Endd.
23 Dec.
Vienna Archives.
1558. Chapuys to Charles V.
As the bishop of Paris, who arrived on Wednesday, showed no hurry, the King has delayed his audience for four days. This is an indication of his dissatisfaction. I think, however, the Bishop will manage to efface it. Eight days ago the French ambassador here complained of the distrust they showed to his master, saying he was certain that if they continued to talk as they did, and to manage so badly, they would irritate him, and find reason to repent it. Had a long conversation with the French ambassador touching Marseilles and the Genoese and the French fleet. He exaggerated grievously the execution of Merveilles, and entered into details. On the matter of the divorce he told me that his master had spoken to the Pope in favor of this King in consequence of the great amity between them ; for where he was a friend, he was a friend indeed. I said I was sure that his master as a virtuous prince would not ask the Pope for anything contrary to reason and justice, especially where you were concerned. He started back on a sudden, saying that the affair was not yours ; for if it had been it would have been treated otherwise,meaning that his master would not have meddled with it ; that he was not wise enough to decide as to the justice or injustice of the case, but he left that to the King's conscience, which he did not care to examine nor take into his keeping, as he was neither his confessor nor his cur. He insisted on the great respect paid by the kings of France to the See Apostolic, by which they had gained the title of "Most Christian" ; and the present King had shown the same when he went to do his obeisance to Pope Leo at Bologna, which he might have seized upon, with many other lands of the Church, as Parma and Piacenza. Suggests the motives for this conversation. He said that the Pope owed much of his deliverance to his master, who had spent 2,000,000 g. cr., and the Pope admits the greatness of his obligations. If the Pope allows himself to be gulled by such stories, which is not very probable, considering his good sense, it is only a colour for some treaty of importance by way of return. The badness of the weather and the absence of people prevent me from gaining information on many affairs, and from discovering whether there is to be a new meeting of the two Kings. Refers to Rincon, Barbarossa, and the Waywode.
The duke of Suffolk and his colleagues, mentioned in my last letters, have not yet returned from the Queen. So far as I can learn of their business, after they had used much sharp language to her, they have proceeded to take away her chamberlain, chancellor, almoner, master of the horse, and other chief officers. Since yesterday they have cashiered almost all the rest of her servants and ladies, and they have brought some from the North, more accustomed to war than the court,as I think, for other reasons than to serve her. They were commissioned to bring the Queen by force to a house (fn. 1) surrounded with deep water and marshes, which is, as she is informed, the most unhealthy and pestilential house in England ; and she, seeing the evident danger of it, refused to go except by force. The commissioners, being afraid of some meute and garboille, brought with them a great number of servants and the posse comitatus. The duke of Suffolk, as I am informed by his wife's mother, confessed on the sacrament, and wished some mischief might happen to him to excuse himself from this journey. The King, at the solicitation of the Lady, whom he dares not contradict, has determined to place the Queen in the said house, either to get rid of her, or to make sure of her, as the house is strong ; and, besides, she is seven miles from another house situated in a lake, which one cannot approach within six miles, except on one side ; and the King and the Lady have agreed to seek all possible occasions to shut up the Queen within the said island, and, failing all other pretexts, to accuse her of being insane. The King also wishes that at the next meeting of Parliament an Act shall be passed declaring the Princess illegitimate, and incapable of the succession, and that all the appointments of the Queen shall be revoked, and then he will openly take, at the Lady's dictation, all the Queen's goods, and deprive her of the power to spend a single penny. The King wishes also to dispose the said Parliament so that the Pope shall not take cognizance of anything here, but that Canterbury shall have plenary authority.
You may understand that in concealing such abominable cruelties the men here will boldly proceed not only to accomplish their cursed intention in regard to the Queen and the Princess, but also to stir up whatever they can against your Majesty, of whom the King would not dare to assure himself. He has sent me no reply to the conversation which I had with the Duke, only because it will not please the Lady, without whose leave, as I understand, he would have sent for me. I have forborne to solicit it.
When the Princess, who was taken off with only two attendants, had arrived where the bastard was, the Duke asked her whether she would not go and pay her respects to the Princess. She replied that she knew no other Princess in England except herself, and that the daughter of Madame de Penebrok had no such title ; and that it was true that since the King her father acknowledged her to be his, she might call her "sister," as she called the duke of Richmond "brother." On her removing, the Duke asked her what word he should carry to the King ; to which she replied, Nothing else, except that his daughter, the Princess, begged his blessing ; and when he said that he would not carry such a message, she told him curtly he might leave it ; and after protesting several times that what she did at the King's command should not be to her prejudice, she retired to weep in her chamber, as she does continually. Though the said Duke treated her very roughly, the King reproached him for not having accomplished his charge ; that he went about it too softly ; and he was resolved to take steps to abate the stubbornness and pride of the Princess.
They offer good terms to the Scots. In two days the King will despatch a doctor, who has heretofore been in Denmark, to Lubeck, Hamburg, and that quarter. London, 23 Dec. 1533.
Hol., Fr., pp. 9. From a modern copy.
23 Dec.
R. O. St. P. VII. 530.
1559. Hackett to Cromwell.
Wrote on the 15th. Gives a long account of the Queen Regent's illness, respecting which there are divers opinions, but all agree that it proceeds "from the heart and the mother." She often falls into a swoon. ; but as soon as she is mended, shows a good countenance, and often rides forth hunting and hawking. If anything happened, it would be difficult to supply her place. The people imagine that if the Emperor could recover the lady Mary his niece, or his aunt lady Arthur, (fn. 2) either would be fit for the Government. It is reported here that neither of them are maintained in England as their blood and rank deserve. I affirm the contrary. I would have them maintained honorably, and that neither should leave the realm without the King's licence. Nothing will prevent them from allowing the publication of the Pope's briefs ; but no damage will ensue to any English subject in consequence. The bishop of Brixen and I dined with Palermo yesterday. He is of a loving nature, and thinks that if Christian princes do not agree together, Christendom will be overrun with Lutheranism. On my saying that the Pope was the chief cause of these differences, he said it were better that 20 popes should suffer rather than the whole of Christendom. The taxation of the priests in the Low Countries amounts to 400,000 florins ; one half to be paid in three months, and the other in six months. Brussels, 23 Dec. 1533.
P.S.If the Pope and the Emperor would consider the annoyance that the King might do them, "the Pope myght lewyr wyshe to wype his ars by lissens with hys brewys, then to send them in this partyys or els where."
Hol. Add.
[24 Dec.]
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1560. Rowland Lee to Cromwell.
Yesternight I received the enclosed letter, which I send, "with the reward I received for my intercession to you for his favorable deliverance," which I shall pray you to grant, if the matter shall so suffer, in honor of this high feast ensuing.
Let me know when it shall be most expedient for me to be at the Court. I will meet you there on St. Stephen's Day. At Stepney, this vigil.
Hol., p. 1. Add. : My beloved friend. Sealed.
24 Dec.
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1561. Thomas Mayehewe to Cromwell.
I thank you for your favor in my causes, and in furthering the matter of the tenants of Bolingbroke and the abbot of Kirkstead with the Chancellor and the attorney of the Duchy. The convent has troubled us with importunate charges, not regarding the decree made when Mr. Fowler was Chancellor ; and also in the third year, when my lord Marney was Chancellor, (fn. 3) and the present Chief Justice (fn. 4) attorney of the Duchy ; nor yet when Mr. Fitzwilliam was Chancellor, and, with the assent of the Council, in Hilary term last, made a decree thereupon. The Abbot has disobeyed the order that Mr. Chancellor, and the attorney Mr. Fitzherbert, would have made between us. We are now ordered to appear before the Chancellor next term. Bolingbroke, Christmas eve.
Hol., p. 1. Sealed. Add. : Of the Council.
24 Dec.
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1562. John Husee, the younger, to Lady Lisle.
Last night I arrived in safety in this town at 8 p.m. I once thought never to have seen your Ladyship, for we were twice in danger of our lives, but God befriended us more than we deserved. At my coming I met with Stafford, who has your Ladyship's gorget. If possible, your ribbons and lawns shall be sent before the New Year. Dover, 24 Dec. 1533.
Hol., p. 1. Add.
25 Dec.
Harl. MS. 6,148, f. 40. B. M. C.'s Letters, 274.
1563. Cranmer to the Prior Of .
"Brother Prior," I desire the next admission of a student to the the University of Oxford, "when any such of your company shall hereafter happen to be permitted thereunto." Ford, 25 Dec.
Copy from Cranmer's Letter Book.
25 Dec.
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1564. Thos. Percye to Lord Lisle.
Writes as master of Lisle's galleon, called the Sunday, of Porchester, Will. Fyssher being at that time captain, and John Norton purser. When sailing towards Ireland we met with certain vessels supposed to be pirates, who had robbed a Breton at a place called Skeris, in Ireland. Will. Fyssher entered one called the Trinity George, of Plymouth, and took out of her two guns and three chambers, which he brought home ; for which the writer was arrested on Christmas eve, when he landed at Plymouth (being bound for Bordeaux, in Ric. Benett's ship of Porchester), at the suit of Thos. Sayer, one of the owners of the said Trinity George, who would not release him till he had paid 26s. 8d. for the said ordnance. Will. Fyssher will inform Lisle further.
ii. Copy of a bill given to the writer by Sayer, acknowledging receipt of the money, and promising to repay it on the ordnance being restored to him. 25 Dec. 25 Hen. VIII.
Hol., pp. 3. Add.

Footnotes

  • 1. Somersham.
  • 2. Katharine.
  • 3. Sir Henry, afterwards lord Marney, was chancellor of the duchy of Lancaster from 1521 to 1523 ; perhaps from an carlier date.
  • 4. Sir John Fitzjames, chief justice of the King's Bench.