Henry VIII: March 1534, 21-25

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March 1534, 21–25

21 March. 350. John Worth to Lord Lisle.
R. O. I have delivered the King's letter to master Cromwell with your lordship's letters. When he had read yours he sent for me to his chamber and asked how you and my lady liked Calais. I said very well, which he was glad to hear. I see he is your high friend in all causes. I also spoke with master Richard and his wife, who showed me that the King had word of the proclamation made at Calais on Saturday by 10 o'clock on Monday, “and very ill reported and otherwise than it was in deed.” The King as yet refuses Mr. Grenefyld's matter, and gave Mr. Cromwell a rebuke for speaking so much in it, declaring that there should be no rooms bought or sold hereafter in Calais. The bishops of Worcester and Salisbury are deprived by act of parliament. I delivered your letter to my lord of Canterbury and waited on him a whole day, but could get no answer. At last he wrote me a letter to Father Covert that he should preach as he did before, at your lordship's desire and the Council's, with many kind words, of which I think Father Covert will inform you. I delivered Smythe your letters for Mr. Norrys. I first spoke to Mr. Hastyngs to know whether the goods were in the King's hands or in his, but he denied having them. I also delivered your letter for Sir Anth. Wynsor to Mr. Wynsor of the Temple. Here is much saying that there will be war. On Monday next the Scotch ambassadors come to Court. London, 21 March.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Deputy of Calais.
21 March. 351. Queen Anne Boleyn.
See Grants in March, Nos. 26 and 27.
352. Queen Anne Boleyn.
Cott. Appx. XXVIII. 82. B. M. “Fees and annuities going out of divers honours, castles, lordships, manors, lands and tenements lying and being in diverse shires within this realm of England, which of late were granted by our most dread sovereign lord King Henry the viijth unto the most excellent lady Anne queen of England.”
R 446.
The lands are in the following counties:—Essex, Herts, Suffolk, Norfolk, Cambridge, Hunts, Norhants, Lincoln, Rutland, Kent, Surrey, Sussex, Oxford, Berks, Bucks, Hants, Wilts, Somerset, Dorset, Hereford, Worcester and Gloucester.
Lady Margaret marquesse Dorset, keeper of Lytley and Donmorc parks and bailiff of Donmowe, 9l. 2s. 4d. Wm. Blount lord Mountjoy, keeper of Badewe park, steward of Havering at Boure, bailiff of Staunden and keeper of the park, steward of Huchen, Staunden and Ansty, and keeper of Fodcringheye park, 25l. 2s. 10d. Sir Thos. and Wm. Tyrrell, constables of Hadlegh castle and keepers of the park, 9l. 2s. 6d. Hugh Carre, keeper of Abchild park and lodge, 4l. 7s. 6d. John Grey, keeper of the out woods of Havering, 3l. 0s. 10d. John Glynne, keeper of the south gate and pale of Haveryng park, 6l. 7s. 6d. Wm. Crane, keeper of Haveryng park, 4l. 11s. 3d. John Wheler, keeper of the manor of Havering at Bower and of the parks of Langlemers and Stratfeld Mortymer, with allowance for the farm of the giestment of Langlemers park, 11l. 19s. 5d. John Celye, paler of Havering park, 2l. 5s. 11½d. John Poynes, esq., receiver and bailiff of Dedhame, Stratford and Langhame, constable of Clare castle and receiver of Ansty, 32l. 11s. 3d. Fras. Blake, annuity from the manor of Miche Walthame, 10l. Sir Robt. Dymmoke, steward of Dedhame, Stratford, Langhame and Clare. 23l. 6s. 8d. John Copynger, keeper of Langhame park, 4l. 11s. 3d. Thos. Combe, auditor of the ministers' accounts for divers lands, 61l. 3s. 4d. Wm. Thomas, keeper of Estey park, 1l. 10s. 4d. Wm. Lathom, keeper of Hunden park, 60s. 10d. Thos. Mynors, keeper of Broxstey park, Kyngeswode and Kepernehale woods, and bailiff of Marwarden, 5l. 9s. 4d. Ric. Longe, esq., bailiff of the manor of Bardefeld and keeper of the parks, 9l. 17s. 4½d. John Smyth, bailiff of Huchen, 5l. John Ryecrofte, bailiff of Anstye, 2l. Thos. Bolleyne, earl of Wiltshire, feodary of the honor of Clare in Norfolk and other counties, 10l. John Verney, esq., steward of Barkehamestede and Kingeslangle and keeper of the parks, with allowance for the farm of the giestment and pawnage, 33l. 2s. 6d. John Elyn, porter of Barkehampestede castle, 60s. 10d. Roger Jakes, receiver of Barkempstede and Kingeslangleye, 5l. Griffith Richardes, esq., for farm of Amberleyns, as steward of Fodryngheye, porter of the castle and keeper of the park and wardrobe there, constable of Bridgewater Castle and receiver general, 82l. 8s. 4d. Sir Edw. Nevill, steward of Depforde Stronde, Drayton, Shire, Kingesdowne, Tonge and Erithe, and keeper of Southefrythe chace, 5l. 6s. 2½d. Sir Ric. Walden, bailiff and receiver of Depfordestrende and Drayton, 9l. 1s. 4d. John Verney, esq., steward of Whaddon and Steple Cleydon, 4l. Thos. Grenewey, bailiff of Wyndon, 3l. 0s. 8d. Thos. Jakes, receiver of Whaddon and Steple Cleydon, 3l. 6s. 8d. Ric. Justice, receiver of Langleyemers, Wyrrardesburye, Cokeham and Braye, bailiff, keeper and paler of Swalowefeld and bailiff of Shenfeld, 16l. 11s. 3d. Sir Andrew Wyndesor lord Wyndesor, steward of Langlemers and Wyrrardesburye, 1l. 6s. 8d. Sir Ric. Weston, steward of Cokeham and Braye, 4l. John Cheneye, keeper of Hampstede park, 4l. 11s. 3d. Robert Lytleye, keeper of the warrens of Cokehame and Braye, 3l. 0s. 10d. Wm. lord Sandes, keeper of the great park and manor of Stratfeld Mortymer, 6l. 1s. 4d. Thos. Tropnell, steward of Swallowfeld, 20s. Sir Wm. Essex, steward of Newberye, 20s. Thos. Hauard, receiver of Kyngeslane and Mawarden, 8l. Sir Nic. Carewe, master of the forest and park of Fekenhame and steward of the duchy of York in Worcestershire, 16l. 3s. 6½d. Walter Devereux lord Ferrers, steward of the duchy of York in Herefordshire, 2l. 10s. Sir Edm. Tame, receiver of Lachelade, Birdeslough, Brymesfeld, Cokeshame, Devyse and Marelburght, 17l. 6s. 8d. Sir John Brigges, steward of Lachelade, Birdeslough and Brymesfeld, 4l. Sir Wm. Kingeston, keeper of Myserdere park, 3l. 0s. 10d. Thos. Poynes, esq., keeper of Brymmysfeld park and Buckeholt wood, 4l. 11s. 3d. Chas. Bulkeley, esq., steward of Cosham, receiver of Pymperne manor and hundred, steward of lordships in Somerset and receiver of Cranborne, 2l. 13s. 4d. Ric. Woode, keeper of Cosham parks, 6l. 1s. 8d. Sir Edw. Baynton, keeper of Mclkeshame and Peveshame forest, steward of Devyse and Rowde, paler of Devyse Castle and keeper of Devyse park; 17l. 13s. 7d. Chas, duke of Suffolk, steward of the lands of the duchy of York, 10l. John Twadell, keeper of Fasterne little park, 3l. 0s. 8d. Brian Annysley, paler of Fasterne great park and woodward of Braden, 3l. 10s. 4d. Sir Hen. Longe. keeper of Fastern great park and “foster” of Braden, 9l. 2s. 6d. Edw. Bigg, keeper of the manor of Fasterne, 3l. 0s. 8d. Francis Philipp, steward of lands in Dorset, late belonging to the duke of York, bailiff of Roughburgh, Rosshmore and Hasyllore, bailiff, reeve and hayward of Cramborne, reeve of Cramborne Holwell, Cramborne Alderholt, Wylkeworth, and keeper of Baynardes Castle, 30l. 0s. 10d. Henry Courtney marquis of Exeter, keeper of Marsshewoode parks, steward of Cramborne, warden and ranger of Cramborne chace and keeper of Blagden park, 20l. 3s. 10d. John Raaff and the Marquis, bailiff of Marsshewoode, 40s. John lord Husy, steward of lands in Lincoln and Rutland, 7l. 0s. 8d. Davyth Cecill, steward of Nayssington, Yarwell and Upton, Northants, 2l. Edm. Bussbye, esq., receiver of lands in Lincoln, Rutland and Northants, 3l. 6s. 8d. Hugh Atkynson, bailiff of Graunthawe, 1l. 6s. 8d. —, (fn. 1) clerk of the courts there, 1l. Wm. Ratclyff, bailiff of Stawneford, 1l. 6s. 8d. John Holand, bailiff of Massington and Yarwell, 50s. —, clerk of the courts at Stawneford, 1l. Wm. Webstar, bailiff of Upton, 13s. 4d. Antony Elderton, collector of rents at Havering at Bower, 5l. Hugh Danyell, bailiff of Ayeshyne, within Clare Hall, 20s. John Madeson, bailiff of Cokehame, 53s. 4d. Thos. Snell, bailiff of Hempstede Marshall, 1l. Thos. Moxhame, bailiff of Coshame, 13s. 4d. Hugh Westwoode, collector of Marelborowe, 2l. Wm. Gowre, bailiff of Mylverton, 13s. 4d. Peter Dodington, bailiff of Gillinghame, 53s. 4d. Robt. Derdowe, feodary of Crameborne, 26s. 8d. —, clerk of the courts of Byslegh, 1l. Leonard Powle, bailiff of Bysle, 26s. 8d. Edm. Darell, esq., bailiff of Chilton Folyatt and keeper of the park there, 4l. 0s. 10d. Sir Robt. Dymmoke, chancellor, 54l. The general Attorney, 10d. The Solicitor, 53s. 4d. John Gregbyte, clerk of the Council, 5d. Hugh Carre, keeper of the Council chamber, 4l. 11s. 3d. Six learned men retained of counsel, 10s. 13s. 4d. Robt. Joynor, attorney in the Common Pleas, 1l. 6s. 8d. Two attorneys in the Exchequer, 3l. 6s. 8d. Annuity of Mary Roos from the manor of Braye, 26l. 13s. 4d. Sir John Rogers, steward of Ellingham, 53s. 4d. John Savyll, bailiff of Bridgewater and Heygrove, 13s. 4d. Total (besides 199l. yearly going out of the Queen's lands in Wales), 778l. 19s. 6d.
Pp. 17.
22 March. 353. Charles V.
Add. MS. 28,586, f. 170. B. M. Subjects proposed in the Emperor's Council at Toledo, 22 March 1534, concerning the affairs of Italy and Christendom. (The despatch was sent from Toledo on 4 April 1534, by Tello de Guzman.)
* * * * *
Touching the king of England. He is renouncing his obedience to the Pope, so as to compel him to some expedient against the Queen. He has dismissed nearly all the Queen's servants of both sexes, and placed her in a lonely and unhealthy house; nor is she more secure with regard to her food. He has spread a report that her mind is weakened, and that she suffers from dropsy, as the French king told the Imperial ambassador. Her daughter has been deprived of her title of princess, and has been placed in the company and service of the Bastard, with one servant, who is resolved to support the second marriage and disregard the censures.
A declaration has been printed and other writings published against the Pope. Lutheran errors are permitted, and correspondence carried on with Germany. In order to do more mischief, the King is trying to make peace with Scotland. * * *
Notwithstanding the King's conduct, the Pope declines to pronounce sentence until he is assured how it will be executed, and thus is open to entertain some means of satisfying the King, as may be conjectured from his words and his behaviour to the French ambassador. * * *
Sp. Modern copy, pp. 15.
22 March. 354. Charles V. to Chapuys.
R. O. On behalf of don Petro de la Borda, vizino de San Sebastian and Pero Minez (fn. 2) de Mallea, whose caravel, after trading at Mirafurda (Milford?) and Erpol (Liverpool?), was taken by an English ship, and the crew put on shore on Londay (Lundy) Isle that they might perish of hunger. They were taken off by a Norman ship, and came to Bnisuata (Bridgewater?), where they appealed to justice. They have asked the Emperor for a letter of marque. Desires Chapuis to represent their case to the King, and endeavor to obtain redress for them. Toledo, 22 March 1534. Signed.
Sp., p. 1. Add.
22 March. 355. Cranmer to the Inhabitants of Hadleghe.
Harl. MS. 6,148, f. I. B. M. Cranmer's Works, II. 280. Is sorry to hear there is lack of charity and many grudges among them. Has desired the bearer, master Hugh Vaghan, to exhort them to put away such grudges, for whoever is out of charity is not acceptable in the sight of God. Sends back to them their curate, Sir Thos. Ros, who was accused of saying in the pulpit, “A man's goods spent for his soul after his death prevaileth him not.” Understands that some of those present say that his words were, “A man's goods given out of charity, and so the child of damnation, spent after his death, shall not prevail his soul,” and also that as soon as he heard that these things were surmised against him by those who were not his friends, he went into the pulpit and declared that he meant it only of those who died out of charity and were buried in hell, as the rich glutton was in the gospel, of which he treated when those words were spoken. Desires those who have not been his friends to leave their grudges, and all to accept him favorably; but does not intend that if any have a just cause against him, they shall not prosecute it according to justice. Lameth, 22 (fn. 3) March.
Pp.2. From Cranmer's letter book.
22 March. 356. Jane Basford, widow, to Cromwell.
R. O. Reminds him once more of her frequent petitions for a warrant for payment of the money owed by the King to “your late kinsman my husband,” for his fee of the surveyorship. Cannot make money here of the wheat she has. Guisnes, 22 March.
Ho., p. 1. Add.: One of the King's Council. Endd.
22 March. 357. [Lord Lisle to Cromwell.]
R. O. Touching all our affairs hitherto I have largely written to you, daily awaiting your answer. I write now to state that privy seals have been sent hither sued out by the merchants of the Staple of this town on account of certain cessments levied by 15 of their members. Some of these privy seals were delivered to three persons of the retinue here named: John Massingberd, Thos. Prowde and John Keall, who have been cessed at 5l. st. each, though they have never been contributors to the said fellowship, and being of the King's retinue, ought not, I think, to consent to pay. The bearer Thos. Prowse, who comes out of Gascony, will inform you of such news as he learned. He carries letters to my lord of Norfolk from Mr. Wallop. 22 March.
Draft, p. 1.
358. [Lisle to Cromwell.]
R. O. I send you a packet received from Mr. Hacket the 22nd instant., which I fear will be delayed by the stormy weather which now prevails. As to the commission directed to me and others here about Lacy's matter against Prowde and other persons, the process is so prolix that it cannot be adjudicated within the days limited in the said commission. I beg therefore that the commission be renewed till the whole of next April, when we can examine it more deliberately. From Calais, the —.
Draft, p. 1.
22 March. 359. Sir Thomas More (fn. 4) to the Lord Chief Justice.
R. O. It grieves me to hear the false information made unto one whom your lordship knoweth, (fn. 5) still more his light belief of me. For whereas the said man of worship reports that I promised him not to meddle in the matter of Thos. Phillyps, it is not so. You spoke with him in Westminster Hall about Midsummer of the examination had between Phillyps and the prisoners; and when I spoke to him a week after and desired him to be my special good master with the King, he swore with a great oath that he would do as much for me as any friend I had, but he could not think that Phillyps was guilty in breaking the gaol. I replied that I would it might please his mastership that Mr. Controller and he should take an order between us, but he answered that in the matter of Phillyps he would not meddle. What was afterwards done to Phillyps was much against my mind, for when I came to Yvilchester, the Judge, after dinner, immediately commanded the clerk of assize to arraign Thos. Phillyps, Guillam and Wynsham. I desired him for the time to forbear Phillyps and Guillam the Frenchman, his servant, but to arraign Wynsham. He answered he would arraign them all or none. Likewise the said Phillyps cried out that he might be arraigned, and that I had long done him an injury. On his arraignment I produced against him Wynsham's confession, which I need not have done, for Wynsham avouched every word of it before the Judge, and so continued till his death. He confessed to his ghostly father, and when he came out of the gaol for execution, Guyllam exclaimed, “Wynsham, what shalt thou gain to east my master and me away by your words? I advise you to withdraw them;” which he refused, and on further dispute, losing patience, he desired to have the aid of some priest. On which Sir John Maister, vicar of Northover, and also the parson of Whitehall, were summoned, and he adhered to the same, saying, “For my telling truth to the King and his Council I shall die; but I cannot deny I have deserved it for putting in of the files to the windowman, and advising them how to break gaol: which I did by the procurement of Philypps and Guyllam.” He also confessed that Phillyps advised him to burn Cuff's “wodffyne,” which he could not have done without danger to Cuff's house and all the town, and he could not avoid his importunity except by saying that as the wind sat he must needs burn Gold's house, who was a friend of Phillyps. He further stated that he had never received a penny from me, and so made his end. I was never privy to the inquest that sat upon him or Phillyps, nor spake by the Sheriff, and sent none of them any meat. I pray that I may not lose my goods and my honesty, nor incur the rebuke of some that you know. I am so disquieted I am almost out of my wits. Melplashe, 22 March. Signed.
Pp. 5. Add.
22 March. 360. [James V. to the Cardinal of Ravenna].
Royal MS. 18 B. VI. 34. B. M. . . . . . . . .rte fides spectataque probitas nostras per . . . . . . . .aticias tamenipsa caus$ae equitas in discri . . . . . . . . . . .impulit ut ad paternitatem tuam has daremus. Ea . . . . . . . .[p]recentoria suo administratore in demortui locum . . . . . . .[R]obertus ordinario tam jure quam munere. Pre . . . . . . . .mittit, qui suo nomine a Sanctissimo postu[let] . . . . . . . . .essent, neque ad cujusquam fere aures per . . . . . . . . . .rem impetrat. Post h$aec paulo Joannes. . . . . . . .Parisiis de vacante pr$aecentoria eamque. . . . . . . . . . et qu$aequidem annos quatuor agitata. . . . . . . . . . . decerneretur tamen pr$aecentoria Roberto . . . . . . . . . . asset verum ne hoc quidein contentus Joannes. . . . . . . . relicto omni juris titulo ad Galli cujusdam . . . . . . . . . . [adu]Iterina dolosaque instrumenta refugit, quibus. . . . . . . . . . Joanni pr$aecentoriam multo antequam apud. . . . . . . . pr$aecentoriam vacare, quod absurdum est, et. . . . . . . . . [Quam]obrem a te petimus, pater reverendissime, ut ad. . . . . . . em animadvertas et Roberto familiari nostro Betun. . . . . . . . . endam fidem, ne dolosum hominum ingenia in. . . . . . . nata familiarium nostrorum detrimento evertere. . . . . .p[lu]ra qu$ae ad hanc rem attinent intelliget tua Paternitas [a Joa]nne Duncam, cui ut fidem habeas rogamus.” Perth, 22 March 1533.
Mutilated. Copy.
361. James V. to Silvester Darius.
Royal MS. 18 B. VI. 34. B. M. Thanks him for his industry in promoting James' business at Rome, and especially concerning the priory of Whithern (Candida Casa), in favor of the King's kinsman, . . . . Flemyng. Desires credence for John Lawder. Stirling.
Lat. Copy. Mutilated and faded.
23 March. 362. The Divorce.
Theiner, 604 Pocock, II. 532. Sentence of the Pope declaring the King's marriage with Katharine to be valid. Rome, 23 March 1534.
*** This sentence has also been printed in Foxe, in Wilkins and in Le Grand (III. 636); and MS. copies exist in the B.M. in Vit. B. XIV. 3 (mutilated), in Add. 6,874, f. 114, and Add. 28,586, f. 178, the latter two being in modern handwriting. Variations, however, exist in the text even of the printed copies.
23 March. 363. The Papal Sentence.
Chigi Library L. II. 23. On Friday, 27 Feb., a secret consistory was held, at which the English marriage case was discussed on the reference of Jas. Simonetta, bishop of Pisauro. On Wednesday, 4 March, the same case was proceeded with. On Monday, 23 March, the sentence in favor of the Queen was given by the Pope in a secret consistory.
Lat. Modern copy, p. 1.
23 March. 364. Roman Diary.
Vat. MS 7,167, f. 117. On Monday, 21 (23) March, there was a secret consistory, in which sentence was pronounced in favor of the queen of England, &c.
Lat., p. 1. From a modern copy.
23 March. 365. Sir Piers Eggecombe to Cromwell.
R. O. Fraunces Palmer, one of my wife's women, lying on a pallet in her own chamber, is sick of the measles, so I will not presume to come into the King's presence nor to the Commons house. Monday, 23 March.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Master Cromwell. Endd.
23 March. 366. The Bishops of Paris and Mascon to Francis I.
Le Grand, III. 631. After the other letter had been despatched there was some delay about the courier. Twenty-two cardinals were present at a consistory this morning. The English case was proposed and sentence pronounced that the marriage between the King and Katharine is valid and the issue thereof legitimate. The King is also enjoined to take back Katharine as his wife. Obtained an audience of the Pope, who said that some wished the sentence to be immediately signified, but they could not gain that from him, and it is determined that it shall not be sent till after Easter. Replied only that they intended to write to their master about it. The bishop of Paris said a word about his taking leave, as he has nothing more to do here. Did not think there was any use in reminding the Pope of his promises to the contrary, or in complaining. Doubt whether what has been done has proceeded from the King's secret intention unknown to them. The bishop of Paris does not mean that he will not say more to his Holiness about it before his departure, which he hopes will be in three or four days. Supposes the King does not wish him to stay longer, on account of the suspicion which the king of England might have. Fears Henry will be terribly discontented with him for the assurances contained in his last letters, on which perhaps he founded the rupture of his Parliament. Advises Francis to inform the king of England at once, before he hears of it from the Imperialists. Are grieved they cannot send better news, but the world will hereafter confess, as truth compels the Imperialists to do now, that Francis has endeavored to prevent one of the greatest troubles which has happened for a long time to the Church and perhaps to all Christendom. Have never omitted anything possible to be done. The Imperialists are about in great crowds, crying “Imperio et Espagne,” with feux de joye and cannon shots. The French king has three cardinals here, Trivulce, Rodolphi and Pisan, who do not show such joy. Nicolas Raince expects the Pope to put right all that has been spoiled, contrary, as he says, to his wish, and wishes the writers to do what they can with his Holiness tomorrow. He can do it, as sentences in matrimonial cases “ne passent jamais en force de choses jugees.” It is said the Pope was surprised, as at the first sentence. All tonight he is with doctors consulting about a remedy. Rome, Monday, 23 March.
The Cardinals' opinions contained in their last letter are not what the result has showed, but they took them from their words and not from their thoughts.
Fr. Headed: Lettre de Mons. l'evesque de Paris et de Mons. l'evesque de Mascon au Roy.
24 March. 367. Cardinal of Jaen to Charles V.
Add. MS. 28,586, f. 180. B. M. The count of Cifuentes will write fully about the good resolution taken by the Pope in the matter of England. Will only mention therefore the more important points. The Queen is happy to have heard the sentence in her lifetime. If she suffer injury in her person or life, as many wise people fear, she will receive the crown of martyrdom in heaven.
This sentence will remove the distrust caused between princes by the long previous delays. Advises the Emperor to write and thank the Pope, offering to defend the See, as the sentence will be very advantageous to his majesty, especially in Italy. The Cardinals, especially Farnese, Campeggio and Minerva, also deserve thanks. Mentions also the services of the auditor Simonetta, and of Ortiz and the other Imperial agents. Rome, 24 March 1534.
Sp., pp. 6. Modern copy.
24 March. 368. Cardinal of Jaen to the Comendador Mayor de Leon.
Add. MS. 28,586, f. 183. B. M. Yesterday, March 23, the English cause was discussed for six hours and more in a large Consistory, and the Pope pronounced a definitive sentence in the Queen's favor with all the clauses. Cifuentes writes more at length. Expresses his pleasure at the result, and his satisfaction with Cifuentes' conduct. The Pope will now be more inclined to join the Emperor. Advises the Emperor to write a letter to his Holiness, thanking him and offering to do what is necessary for the defence of the Apostolic See. He may do this with confidence, as the Pope will be more disinclined than he is to take up arms. Is grieved at the death of the archbishop of Toledo. Has been ill with gout, but this has been an advantage in the English business, as all the Cardinals called upon him, and carried away a hint (un pellice) as to what they ought to say and do. Commends to him cardinal Campeggio, Dr. Ortiz, Luys d'Aragonia the advocate, and Anguiano the proctor. Rome, 24 March 1534.
Sp., pp. 7. Modern copy.
24 March. 369. Count of Cifuentes to Charles V.
Add. MS. 28,586, f. 197. B. M. Wrote on the 5th by the ordinary courier.
On Monday, 23 March, the Pope, with the whole Sacred College, gave a unanimous sentence in favor of the queen of England, of which a copy is enclosed. Does not think it will be of much profit, except for the Emperor's honor and the Queen's justification. Thinks it is well that the Emperor is not bound to execute it, though the Count has often been pressed to give his word for it on his majesty's behalf. The Emperor must thank and reward the following:—Cards, Farnese, Campeggio, La Minerva, La Valle, Sanctiquatro, Matera, Naples, Jahen and Sancta Cruz; Simoneta, Ortiz, Aragonia and Auguiano. Not that the Cardinals require a reward for doing justice, but for other reasons, and because it is the custom. Rome, 24 March 1534.
Sp., pp. 6. Modern copy.
Add. MS. 28,586, f. 187. B. M. 2. “Relacion de lo que escrive el conde de Cifuentes a xxiiij. de Marzo 1534.”
Abstract of the preceding, with marginal notes.
The following paragraph is not in the letter to the Emperor:—
The Count has sent a copy of the sentence to queen Mary, to be forwarded to England, as the ambassador there wrote that a Parliament was being held, and it would be well if the sentence arrived before it ended at Easter.
Sp., pp. 6. Modern copy.
24 March. 370. Dr. Ortiz to Charles V.
Add. MS. 28,586, f. 191. B. M. Considers the sentence given in the Queen's favor as the greatest of the Emperor's victories. Other victories have been gained over men, this over enemies let loose from hell. Other victories have been concerned with the goods of this world, but this has been in defence of the faith and its sacred canons. The third reason is the great difficulty there has been in coating to a decision. The admission of the excusator had to be discussed four times. Although both the Rota and the Consistory had determined last year that the marriage was not unlawful in itself by divine or natural law, it was necessary to examine the same point again this year, of which some cardinals complained, saying that it was an insult (injuria) to the previous decision of the Consistory, and therefore would not discuss it without referring to the previous deliberation. Campeggio said that if the case turned on the proofs of virginity contained in the remissorias, he would have great doubts of the justice of the Queen's case; but as he considered it settled that the marriage was only unlawful by positive law, he had always been certain that she was in the right. The difficulties have been so great that the count of Cifuentes has had no hope of success, though he, as well as the advocate and proctor, has been very diligent. Formerly the sentence was deferred on the pretext that the king of England might return to obedience, and latterly they said there was no need of a sentence, as it could do no good. Now that it is given the Pope says he fears he may have sinned, as the Queen may be murdered in consequence of the sentence.
The fourth reason is that the victory has been in behalf of such a holy martyr. The fifth, that the victory is not only over the king of England, but also over the king of France, who has used improper methods to influence universities to decide against the Queen. A cavalier named Langest (Wm. du Bellay, seigneur de Langei) said that a year ago he had been procuring votes from the university in the King's favor, as if by the will of man they could change Divine justice. The bishop of Paris, his brother, has also been here to try and stop the sentence, but his acts have only resulted in greater confusion to himself.
The sixth, that although the Cardinals were not as inclined to serve the Emperor as in past years, on account of alliances which had taken place and the gifts received by some of them from the French king, yet by the influence of the Holy Spirit they have decided in the Queen's favor, and they were so determined to do this immediately that they said clearly that if sentence were not given, it would be the Pope's fault, and not theirs. Even cardinal Trivultio, protector of the French king, decided openly in the Queen's favor. Thinks that the other French cardinals, who did not come to Rome, felt that they could not conscientiously favor the other side. The success is greatly owing to Simoneta, the judge of the cause, who has deserved a reward, the advocate Juan Luys, the proctor Anguiano, and among the cardinals, Cayetano, Campeggio, who came to the last Consistory in spite of his illness, Farnesio and Sanctiquatro. Card. St. Severino begs the Emperor to give him a pension out of his bishopric, and the card. of Naples also asks for a reward.
Two days before the sentence letters from the Queen came to the Pope, the count of Cifuentes, and Ortiz. Sends a copy of his letter to her.
The executoriales which have not yet been presented will be presented now, as the executoriales of the principal sentence will not be ready. A month ago the Pope, for 1,500 ducats, granted a dispensation to a Neapolitan to marry the sister of his wife, by whom he had four sons. This dispensation suffices for a sentence in this case. Rome, 24 March 1534.
Sp., pp. 7. Modern copy.
[24 Mar.] 371. Dr. Ortiz to Katharine of Arragon.
Add. MS. 28,586, f. 195. B. M. Congratulates her that, without the dissent of any cardinal, sentence has been given in the principal cause in her favor, and the Consistory has decided that her marriage was not unlawful, as was determined in the Rota last year. Her letter to the Pope came opportunely two days ago. Cifuentes and the others have used much diligence, though without hope of obtaining sentence so speedily. Her trouble at the Emperor's not having shown much energy in the prosecution of the case shows that she was misinformed, for both his words to the Pope at Bologna and the letters and persons he has sent to his Holiness have had much effect. There is nothing his majesty desired more than this sentence, as was said to Ortiz at Bologna. Exhorts her and her daughter to be constant and not fear the storms which may arise. The executorials remain to be passed. Great diligence shall be used. Thanks her for writing to the count of Cifuentes, whose diligence he commends. The advocate Juan Luis and the procurator Anguiano have also worked well.
Spanish. Modern copy, pp. 4.
25 March. 372. The Lady Elizabeth.
R. O. Computus of Wm. Cholmeley, esq., late cofferer of the household of the lady Elizabeth, from 10 Dec. to 25 March 25 Hen. VIII.
Receipts: Remainder of his account for the household of the lady Mary, 56l. 10s. 1½d. Victuals remaining in the various offices on 15 Dec. 25 Hen. VIII., 129l. 4s. 7d. From Sir Brian Tuke, treasurer of the Chamber, 750l. Total, 935l. 14s. 8½d.
Expenses: Her council, officers and servants, 791l. 10s. 8½d. Foreign expenses, 7l. 11s. 8d. Rewards to John Mynne, auditor, for a year and a half, 100s. Total, 803l. 12s. 4½d.
Victuals remaining in the various offices, for which Sir John Shelton, steward of the Household, will be charged in the next account, including corn, wine, ale, wax, spices, codfish, stockfish, salmon, eels, herrings, sturgeon, sheep, &c., 98l. 7s. 0¼ d.
Arrears of Robt. Brisley, late valet of the Poultry to lady Mary, 32l. 6s. 8¾d.; of John Lucas, late groom of the Poultry to lady Mary, 11l. 15s. O½d.; and Wm. Bowdon of Chelmesfeld, Essex, tallow chandler, and Henry Claryvaunce, husbandman, 119s. 2½d.
Pp. 5. Large paper.
25 March. 373. Chapuys to Charles V.
Vienna Archives. The Secretary (fn. 6) of the count palatine Frederick, who left here in November last, arrived here on Wednesday last, having stayed for a fortnight in the French court. On his arrival he said he brought news which would be very agreeable to the King, and it seems to be so from the good reception he has had from the King and Cromwell. He only stayed five days, and communicated his charge to none but the King and Cromwell, so that no one knows the cause of his coming. He told one of my men that he would come and visit me, but was despatched sooner than he expected. When mounting his horse he told his host he should be back at Whitsuntide.
As the said Secretary had been at the French court, I expected he would address himself to the French ambassador, or at least visit him, but he has not done so. The Ambassador was desirous of knowing his charge, but thought the English might take his curiosity ill. If he brought the news which the English desire, it could not please his master, for it must have been something to the disadvantage of the Faith and the Pope, of whom his master is a friend. If he had any conversation with the Secretary, the Pope might think that his master favored such proceedings, but for all this I could see that he was displeased at not having spoken to the said Secretary, who, he thinks, can have no business with his master as he has not visited him, and he has had no advice about it from France. He tells me also that the English had not informed him of the Secretary's commission or of his coming. I do not think the King wishes the French king to know all the intelligence he has in Germany, on account of the alliance between Francis and the Pope, and the former has written a most cordial autograph letter to the King offering him help against any one except the Faith and the authority of the Holy See, with which clause the King has been very much vexed, especially as similar words have been used to him several times.
The Acts passed by the Commons against the Pope and the authority of the Holy See have today been ratified by the nobles and clergy, to the great regret of good men, who were in a minority in consequence of the threats and practises of the King. Nothing is wanting now but the King's formal confirmation, which he defers until the arrival of the bishop of Paris, in consequence of the intercession of the French king, who is trying every means to reconcile the Pope and the King.
The French ambassador blames the King for having printed a book, which I send to Mons. de Praell (Praet?), notwithstanding his promise not to do so till the return of the bishop of Paris, and says there is no chance of a reconciliation. At the King's persuasion the Ambassador has written to the Pope about the evils which will ensue unless his Holiness apply a remedy, but he has only done this to please the King.
The Ambassador exaggerated these evils very much, and said that, in addition to the motives of increase of authority and pecuniary advantage, the King was urged on against the Pope by others as well as the Germans, that is, by the Vayvode and Italian potentates, and that the Venetians were waiting to see the end of this tragedy, and others also, meaning the dukes of Ferrara and Urbino, so that the burden of sustaining the papal authority would fall on the shoulders of your majesty and the French king.
After many other words the Ambassador began to regret that there was not perfect confidence between your majesty and the French king, and to blame those who hindered it, as such a friendship would be the means of defeating the Turk and reforming all Christendom, and your majesty could revenge yourself on the Swiss, the German rebels and other enemies, meaning this king. I replied, as before, that this want of friendship was not your majesty's fault, and as to the vengeance of which he spoke, I was sure that you would not wish to pick any quarrel with the powers he mentioned, but would prefer that their forces should be employed in the service of God. From this conversation it is easy to see that the French king is not on good terms with the Swiss or the king of England. In answer to a question from me, the Ambassador suggested the marriage of your majesty's daughter with the Dauphin.
The King, after taking away the benefices held by card. Campeggio and the auditor of the Chamber, has caused them to be deprived by act of parliament without summoning anyone to appear on their behalf. The good bishop of Rochester, who is the paragon of Christian prelates both for learning and holiness, has been likewise condemned to confiscation of body and goods. He was convicted of treason for not revealing what the Nun said to him, that harm would happen to the King if he did not give up this new marriage. All this injustice is in consequence of his support of the Queen.
Today two doctors (fn. 7) will start for Rome. The King has sent them in post, but a report is spread that they are going on their own affairs and not for the King. There was no talk about sending them until the receipt of the first letter sent by the bishop of Paris after his arrival at Rome. Then these doctors were immediately commissioned, and have been for ten or twelve days discussing with other doctors. One of them is the late excusator (Karne). The French ambassador says they are going to do what good they can, but carry no power, for the King, being blinded by anger, would not prolong (prorougcroit) the Pope's jurisdiction for a million of gold, for this would prejudice the Archbishop's sentence, which is the helm of his navigation.
When the duke of Norfolk was last with the Princess, he took away not only her principal jewels and ornaments, but all the others as well, in consequence of her refusal to pay her respects to the lady of the King, and to accompany the Bastard, who is about to remove. Although she has no objection to going to the same place either before or after her, she will not pay court to her on the road unless she is led by force.
The Bishop, who has come as ambassador from Scotland, entered London yesterday, with 50 horses of his own and 60 belonging to the earl of Northumberland, who went out to meet him the day before. London, 25 March 1534.
Fr., pp. 5. From a modern copy.
25 March. 374. Thomas Skreven to Lady Lisle.
R. O. I thank you for your letter of the 7 March and for your great goodness to me and my wife. I intend to see my lord and you at Calais the week after Easter. London, 25 March 1533. (fn. 8)
I beg you to desire my lord's favor to my kinsman Harry Lacy in his suits, for he has many enemies and has sustained much wrong.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: At Calais.


  • 1. Blank in MS.
  • 2. Elsewhere he is called Martinez.
  • 3. Misprinted as 20 March in Cranmer's Works.
  • 4. Of Dorsetshire.
  • 5. Cromwell.
  • 6. Hubert Thomas. See Vol. VI. No. 1481 (11).
  • 7. Dr. Carne and William Revet.
  • 8. Should be 1534, as Lord and Lady Lisle were not at Calais in March 1533.