Henry VIII: June 1534, 21-25

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Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 7, 1534. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1883.

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June 1534, 21–25

21 June. 868. Sir Piers Dutton to Cromwell.
R. O. The abbot of Vale Ryall in Cheshire is dead. Recommends dan Rondulph Wilmeslowe of the same house as his successor, for his discretion and learning. He will give Cromwell 100l. in hand, and do him further as large pleasure as any other man. Hatton, 21 June. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: Secretary. Endd.
21 June. 869. Fr. John Hylsey to Cromwell.
R. O. Although I have labored in my progress, I have not found any religious persons who have utterly refused the oath of obedience. Some have sworn to it with an evil will, and slenderly taken the oath, of whom I will show you more at my coming. Exeter, 21 June. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: Right honorable. Endd.
22 June. 870. Harry Huttoft to Humphrey Boleyn.
R. O. I have received yours, advising of the error late found in reweighing the wools of Castlin's ship. You think it very strange that such an error should be made, and have proceeded to the proof of it. As they were reweighed by Symons so we found them. Enters into a number of details. The executor of the weighing can abuse the wisest men that look upon him. 22 June.
Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd.
23 June. 871. Chapuys to Charles V.
Vienna Archives. It is about eight days since there arrived in two ships the ambassadors of Lubeck and Hamburg in equal number, viz., three from each town, and 18 servants, of whom those of Lubeck are bravely dressed in red with bands of yellow and white satin, and with these words on the sleeve: Si Deus pro, nobis, quis contra nos? Those of Hamburg are more simply dressed in black with the motto, Da pacem, Domine, in diebus nostris. They have not yet had audience of the King, perhaps waiting for the doctor, whom the said king has at Lubeck, who is to come by land, and, as some think, not without speaking with those of Bremen and other confederates. The cause of their coming is still hidden. I have been given to understand that the King entreated them to come, assuring them of great profit; and it is thought that among other things he will treat of commercial intercourse in case his subjects be forbidden to resort to your dominions, of which he is a good deal in doubt. Perhaps also he invited them to excite the jealousy of the Flemings and a fear that they would lose their trade. I expect those of Lubeck will treat somewhat of the affairs of Denmark. Those of Hamburg I am told made some difficulty in coming, and one who is familiar with them informs me they reckon on their return to pass through Flanders towards the Queen.
I have not ceased since Whitsun Eve to solicit an answer to my communications with the Council, and for a licence to visit the Queen, for which she daily urges me, but as yet I have had no success. Cromwell gave my man to understand some days ago that what I desired was very proper, but it was a question of trusting ladies (mais les dames estoient de croyre). Afterwards Cromwell sent word to me that he would come and speak to me, but he forgot this as well as other things, and I sent my man to remind him that the duke of Norfolk and he had to speak with me about the matters I was soliciting, and also about certain letters that the King had received from Spain. This conference was to have been yesterday, but owing to some business that had occurred, they sent to beg that I would have patience for two or three days. During these delays the Queen has had little rest, for the King has lately sent messengers to her to make the ladies about her swear, with instructions in case of refusal to bring them away prisoners. This the commissioners would have performed altogether if it had not been for the difficulty of taking so many ladies away against their will, besides that they were moved with pity not to leave the Queen alone, who implored them most lamentably not to proceed with such severity until they had informed the King; and with this view they arrived two days ago in Court. I do not know what commands they will receive.
About 10 months ago I sent the Queen a protestation that she was to forward to the Princess for her to sign. This I thought had been done long ago; otherwise I would have seen to it well; but lately the Queen, despairing of an opportunity of getting it signed, sent it back to me, and I have found means to get her signature, as your majesty will see. It is inconceivable what pains the said Princess has taken with her incomparable and angelic wit to pass the said protestation and the like, and to divert the attention of the guards about her.
I am informed by a person of good faith that the King's concubine had said more than once, and with great assurance, that when the King has crossed the sea, and she remains gouvernante, as she will be, she will use her authority and put the said Princess to death, either by hunger or otherwise. On Rochford, her brother, telling her that this would anger the King, she said she did not care even if she were burned alive for it after. The Princess quite expects this, and thinking that she could not better gain Paradise than by such a death, shows no concern (na fait cas du monde), trusting only in God, whom she has always served well and does still better now. Having spoken to the Queen, by her advice I will make remonstrances; but I know not if they will do any good.
Begs pardon for repeating some things, to which he is constrained by the importunity of many good persons inclined to the Emperor's service. If his majesty do not see to affairs here, there will be no remedy after by reason of this sect, which begins to increase. The King expects that it will secure the loyalty of his people against your majesty, and also conciliate the favor of Germany, especially of maritime cities like Lubeck; and though he has no right, he will always be able to extort from his subjects whatever he pleases, and will excite in France and Germany as much opposition to you as possible. Even if your majesty were to show yourself satisfied with all he has done, I do not believe he would give up these intrigues, both for envy and for the doubt he always entertains that at last he will meet with the reward he merits. And these people think that the true bridle to keep France and Germany steady would be to take action here. (fn. 1) It was thus that the Emperor Maximilian overcame his two competitors, as shown by the chronicles of this kingdom, which, in the state in which things are now, they say would be as easy to conquer as could be; for great and small are only waiting for the least opportunity to declare themselves in favor of your majesty, the Queen and Princess, of whose life there is great fear otherwise. You could not believe the hundredth part of the vexation of all this kingdom, except some of the new sect, at the delay of a remedy, and the reproaches I have had for it from innumerable quarters. This I have ventured to repeat that you may not imagine that the new oaths have altered the disposition of the people.
The archbishop of Canterbury, reserving to himself the determination, which he promises to declare within a year, whether there be any purgatory, whether it be well to pray to saints or worship them, whether it be lawful for priests to marry, and whether pilgrimages be meritorious, has forbidden by public command any preacher meanwhile to make any mention of these articles in his sermon, either for or against. This is only a preparation for the work of the coming Parliament, in which the King intends to take the goods of all the churches; which he has not yet ventured to propose only that he might not attempt too many dangerous things at once. London, 23 June 1534.
Fr., pp. 6. From a modern copy.
23 June. 872. John Bishop of Lincoln to Cromwell.
R. O. Fragment of a short letter, of which all the material part is lost. Towards the end the following expressions occur: “how to use him[self] in . . . . . and hath not[hing] brought . . . . . in such things; wherefore he hath great [need] of instructions. Thus I am bold always to trouble you with my rude pen,” &c. “Wooborn, 23 June. Signed.
P. 1. Badly mutilated. Add.: Secretary.
873. [Tayler to the Ambassadors of Lubeck?]
R. O. The King has received with very great satisfaction the letters they have brought from the senate (senatus et resp. vestra) expressive of their goodwill towards his majesty; but as the ambassadors are probably tired with their long and perilous journey, he will defer hearing their charge till Sunday next. Meanwhile [Tayler] is commissioned to express to them how much pleased the King is to hear of their arrival, both on account of the object of their mission, and also on account of the princes who sent them, for all of whom he has a high regard. Finally he thanks them for the great trouble they have taken in this embassy, and assures them that nothing in his kingdom that may gratify them shall be wanting to them.
The King is very grateful for their acute and learned judgment on the subject of his marriage, and thanks them alike for their friendship and for their seal in defending justice and the authority of God's word. The cause is that of Christ and his religion. Proceeds to give an account of the King's scruples of conscience and the bishop of Rome's resistance to his just demands per fas et nefas, “velut Davus, imo cacodæmon.”
Lat., imperfect, pp. 2. In Tayler's hand.
2. Another draft of a speech to the same ambassadors, in answer to an oration by them, with which the King is highly pleased. The remarks about the King's martfoge are similar to those in § 1, but are continued to a greater length. The King will take advice about their petition.
Lat., pp. 4. In Tayler's hand.
874. John Æpinus to Cromwell.
Harl. MS. 6,389, f. 34. B. M. Our states have sent us as ambassadors to thank the King and express their goodwill to him and his people, but we are accused of coming to excite sedition and spread false doctrine. It is said that nothing is left for us but to return with the King's indignation and the disgrace of our states. These rumors have terrified my host, who wishes he had never received me. I request you to obtain my despatch from the King.
Hol., Lat., pp. 2. Add.: Domino Crumwello, R. M. Secretario. Endd.
24 June. 875. John King of Portugal to Cromwell.
R. O. Requesting his intercession with the King to spare the life of a Portuguese subject named Fernando Roderic of Viana, who had killed a Genoese in London; as he had previously been very barbarously treated by the Genoese and his companions. Evorn, 24 June 1534. Signed: El Rey.
Lat., p. 1. Add.: Thomæ Clamuel, serenissimi regis Angli$ae supremo secretario. Endd.
25 June. 876. Cranmer's Visitation.
MS. Ashmol. No. 1,729, f. 2 a. Letter under stamp of the sign manual of Henry VIII. to doctor Peter Ligham, commanding him, in his visitation of the province of Canterbury for the Archbishop, to procure the seal of every chapter, college and monastery, and the subscription of every member thereof, and of every parson, to a “writing” delivered herewith, and “to the artycle concernynge the bisshopp of Roome his aucthoryte within this realme,” giving authority to commit recusants to prison. Hampton Court, 25 June 15 . . . . .
25 June. 877. Sir Edward Ryngeley, Knight Marshal of Calais, to Lord Lisle.
R. O. Has received his letter dated Calais, 18 June. As to the paviors he writes for, has arranged with two honest men, who “can good skell for the mendeng of the corrant of showers there.” They ask 2d. st. a square yard, and their cost in and out. If lord Lisle wants them, he must write to him at John Skowttes, the Queen's tailor.
Is glad to hear lord Lisle is doing with the sandhills still. Has not yet seen the surveyor's man who has come for money, but will do what he can for his despatch. The money that Mr. Norres lacked of the King's is had again, every penny, in all 1,200l. The party that had it is in the Tower. His name is Blechynden, a servant of Sir Edw. Nevels. Hears he is pardoned. Cannot inform him of the King's coming to Calais, nor his number, for it was not fully determined before Midsummer day; but it is said he intends to be there on Sept. 6. Will go to the Court today, and tarry till he is despatched of his business. Desires to be recommended to lady Lisle and the Council. London, 25 June. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: Deputy of Calais. Endd.
25 June. 878. Edward Maye, Mayor of Dover, to Lord Lisle.
R. O. Desires him to take measures for the security of the passage between Dover and Calais. This day, in the town hall, there came before him and his brethren and master Carye of Calais, the bearer, one Saboot Barnartt, merchant of Rouen, complaining that on Midsummer eve, he being in a ship called the Katharine, of Dieppe, John Rosse, master, in the Downs, off the English coast, was attacked by a rover of 60 tons, manned by 30 Dutchmen, well furnished with artillery, who boarded, robbed and maltreated them, and said if they had been Englishmen they should all have been cast overboard. Dover, 25 June 1534.
Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd.


  • 1. “que la vraye bride pour arrester la France et l'Alemaigne et les garder de ruer seroit de pouvoir (pourvoir?) yci, et par tel moyen l'empereur Maximillian supedicts ses deux compediteurs comme le contienent les croniques de ce royaulme.”