Henry VIII: May 1535, 11-20

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Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 8, January-July 1535. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1885.

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May 1535, 11-20

11 May. 699. Dr. Edward Foxe.
See Grants in May, No. 25.
11 May.
R. O.
700. Sir Thomas Tempest to Cromwell.
Has executed the King's instructions along with the other Commissioners for the true taxation of spiritual possessions in Northumberland, Durham, and precincts, according to the Act. Desires to know the King's pleasure in certain articles sent by bearer. Wishes a commission for the visitation of two chantry priests, named the Chaunteryez of Farnacres, in the bishopric of Durham, founded by Sir Rob. Umfrevile. Does not desire it for lucre, but only to make the priests keep the true order of their foundation, which is much neglected. Cromwell may intimate his pleasure to Will. Blytheman. 11 May. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: Mr. Thomas Cromwell, esquire, Chief Secretary to the King's Highness. Endd.
11 May.
R. O.
701. Richard Cromwell to Lord Lisle.
Cannot sufficiently thank him for his kindness to his poor cousin and kinsman John Gough. Begs he will continue it, as Gough has been very sick, and could not attend at Calais. At the Rolls, 11 May.
Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd.
11 May.
R. O.
702. Anne Basset to Lady Lisle.
Was very glad of Jean Semet's arrival, as she wished to hear news of her. Monsieur and Madame (fn. 1) have treated her as if she were their own daughter. Would like to have some worsted (demye ostade) for a gown with a velvet side, some cloth to make smocks, some hose and shoes. Sends back the gold articles (dorures) as unserviceable, and wishes for others. Wants three ells of red cloth to make a mantle with a satin hood. Pont de Remy, 11 May.
Recommend me to my Lord. Desires her to procure for her "une dogue," which she has promised to a gentleman. Signed.
Fr., p. 1. Add.: A Madame.
11 May.
R. O.
703. Thybault Rouault (Sieur De Riou) to Lord Lisle.
Thanks him for his present of dogs. He and his wife are looking forward to St. John's Day, when lady Lisle will be par deça, to make her the best cheer they can, and to accompany her "jusques à son voyage." Lisle's daughter (fn. 2) makes great progress every day. Compliments to lady Lisle, and thanks for the vergines (? virginals) she sent him. Pout de Remy, 11 May. Signed.
Fr., p. 1. Add.: Mons. le Debitis, à Calles.
12 May.
Cleopatra, F. I. 260. B. M.
704. Cranmer to Cromwell.
Thanks him for signifying to him by his chaplain, Master Champion, the complaint of the bishop of Winchester to the King concerning his visitation, viz., that his style Totius Angliæ Primas is derogatory to the King's authority as Head of the Church, and that his diocese was visited by Cranmer's predecessor not five years ago, and should not therefore be charged with a visitation now. Thinks the Bishop does not so much tender the King's cause as his own, in complaining of the visitation. Why did he not move the matter before he received the monition, which was delivered to him within four miles of Winchester, on 20 April last, as he came up to Court? Marvels that he now finds fault, rather than before, when he took the bishop of Rome as chief head. For the bishop of Rome had a great number of primates under him, and, by having primates under him, his supreme authority was not less esteemed, but more. Why then may not the King have primates under him, without diminishing, but rather with augmenting, of his said supreme authority? The Bishop knows as well as any man that if this style or title had been any impediment to the bishop of Rome's usurped authority, it would not have been so long unreformed. Doubts not that the bishops of England would gladly have had the archbishops' authority and title taken away, that they might have been equal together; and it would have been easily brought to pass, if the bishop of Rome had thought the archbishops' titles any derogation to their supreme authority. All this notwithstanding, if the bishops care no more for their names, styles, and titles than he does, the King shall soon order the matter between them. If he thought his style were against the King's authority, would sue himself to the King to leave it. Cares nothing for any title further than it shall be to the setting forth of God's Word and Will, but yet would not gladly leave any just thing at the suit of the bishop of Winchester, he being none otherwise affectionate to Cranmer than he is. Diotrephes has had more successors than all the Apostles. Would that himself and all the bishops left their titles, and called themselves Apostolos Jesu Christi, and ordered their dioceses so that neither paper, parchment, lead, nor wax, but the Christian conversation of the people, might be the letters and seals of their offices.
As to his second objection, Cranmer's predecessor visited the diocese of Winchester after the decease of the Lord Cardinal, as he did all other dioceses, sede vacante, but otherwise it has not been visited by any Archbishop for 40 years. Yet Gardiner himself charged them with a new visitation within less than half a year after, and that against all right, as Dr. Incent has reported, the clergy at that time paying to the King half their benefices in five years, as they paid before, have paid since, and shall pay for ever by the last Act. Is glad he now has some compassion for his diocese. Other bishops, whose course is to visit this year, keep their visitation (where Cranmer visited last year), notwithstanding the tenth to be paid to the King. Does not do so in Winchester diocese, for it is the third year since it was visited, so that Gardiner has less cause to complain than other bishops. The charges of the late Act are no greater objection in Cranmer's case than in that of other bishops, and no greater this year than last year or any year hereafter. If they were true men in accounting and paying the subsidy, they are no more charged by this Act than they were for 10 years past, and shall be hereafter. If his objections are allowed this year, he might disallow all visitations for the last ten years, and for ever hereafter. Otford, 12 May. Signed.
Pp. 3. Add.: Master Secretary. Endd.
Cleop. F. i. 88.
B. M. Strype's Cranmer, 714.
705. Jurisdiction of Canterbury.
[Reply (of Gardiner?) to Abp. Cranmer, touching his Court of Audience.]
To the first, his protestations show no more but that he is not suspected to keep that Court of Audience by the authority of any legacy from Rome. No archbp. in Christendom ever had authority to keep such a court by reason of his archbishopric, but only legates. What vexations and oppressions they have done, both to the ordinaries and the lay fee, by calling poor men from the farthest part of the realm for a halfpenny candle, or a little opprobrious word, was declared plainly in this Parliament, and was a great cause of making a statute to remedy that before the statute of the abolishment of the bp. of Rome's authority. This execution of legacies in other jurisdictions and realms has been one of the greatest usurpations of the bps. of Rome. No archbp. can exercise this authority without implying that he is a legate of the See of Rome. It would be better for the King to give like authority to some other, by special commission, that it may be known certainly to come from his grace. If the King should make the archbp. his legate, it may perhaps derogate the power of his general vicar, and the people take occasion to say that the vicar exercises the power of a legate by the King's authority, and the Archbp. by that of the bp. of Rome. The Archbp. says he does not see why he should not keep that Court by authority of the Act of Parliament, as others enjoy what they had before from the See of Rome. It seems that he never read the Act, nor can discern between a thing absolute that may endure without a dependence, as an advowson in gross, and a thing that standeth in a continual dependence, as service to the signory. Exemptions and dispensations and such others be absolutes, not depending on the grantor after his grant; but legacies are but respective,—and no longer lord, no longer service. So no longer bp. of Rome lord here, no longer his vicar, who is but his servant. The Act of Parliament which he alleges is so plain that it cannot be drawn, with 20 team of oxen, to stretch to the continuance of this Court of Audience. Quotes the words of the Act, Anno 25, cap. 21 [clause 17], in the 26th leaf in the latter end. The Act speaks only of exemptions, and that only of houses exempt, and their jurisdictions, which might be suffered upon their few parishioners and neighbours, as prebendaries have in cathedral churches, but it does not speak of the universal jurisdiction of archbp., bp., or other person. Legacy is a universal jurisdiction depending on him who usurped a universal authority. Considering that the archbp. of Canterbury has, besides the courts in his own diocese, a Court of Arches in London authorised to determine all causes pertaining to a metropolitan, why should he require to keep this Court of Audience in London, within the jurisdiction of another bishop, except he [be] minded to call other bishops obedientiaries out of the jurisdiction, contrary to the Act? Or, at least, as this Court is kept within the Church and juridiction of London, and the Arches Court within the City, but not within the jurisdiction, if he may not vex the citizens and diocesans of London at the Arches, without an appeal first from his ordinary, because of the canon law, yet he might pull them to this audience at St. Paul's, as he did before by his legacy, and not offend the Act of anno xxiii., that no man should be called out of his diocese. The Archbp. says that the King bade him continue that court still; but it is to be marvelled that he has not expressed it in his citations and other writings about that Court, "as he did call himself in all his writings legatum Apostolicæ Sedis long after that Act of the abolishing."
Pp. 3. Imperfect.
12 May.
R. O.
706. John Husee to Lord Lisle.
Sends him, by John Awgur, master of the Julyen of Erith, a fardel of liveries; scil. 42 yards for gentlemen, at 5s. 4d.; 132¼ yds. at 5s. for yeomen; 36 yds. for grooms, at 4s. Had great ado to find securities in 51l. 9s. 3d., the amount. Mr. Windsor is not come. I intend to ride over to see him about the money. If he will come up Mr. Saymer is content to pay 60l. out of hand. Trusts to bring his money, or make it over to Mr. Judd of the Staple. Sends a basket of 8 doz. dishes, 8 platters, counterfeits at 5d. per 1b. Has paid for these, and for the gear sent by Dry wry, reserving what he had of Lock's. London, 12 May.
The pewterer is the naughtiest fellow that ever I knew. He would neither let me have dishes of him, nor yet your mark to mark them withal.
Hol., p. 1. Sealed. Add. Endd.
12 May.
R. O.
707. John Husee to Lord Lisle.
Wrote today by John Awgur, by whom I sent your liveries, containing in the fardell 210¼ yds., amounting to 51l. 9s. 3d. Sent by the same ship, the Julyan of Erith, a basket containing 8 dozen dishes and 8 platters. You may write to the customers here that the 210 yds. are for your use and livery, for they have made me give sureties to pay custom for it otherwise. Wyndsor is not yet come up. Will ride and got the money. If 1m; comes with me, Mr. Seymour will pay the money. If he can arrange with Wyndsor, will be with Lisle on Thursday night. London, 12 May.
Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd.
12 May.
R. O.
708. John Husee to Lady Lisle.
I received your letter today by Rob. Johnson with the quails, which I have delivered, and for which all parties thank you. Mr. Basset is well, and is a great lawyer. Bremelcome has the water imperial, which shall be used according to your writing. As to the plague, Mr. Sulyer and Mr. Danestre will see to him as though he were their own kin. He breaks his fast daily before leaving his chamber. I have delivered him 3l. as Bury has not yet come, and he is going to Mr. Danaster these holidays. The "febre" of his taffeta gown has made him a doublet. Of all this I will make plain reckoning at my coming. Today I have sent by John Awgur, master of the Julian of Erith, such vessel and liveries as my Lord wrote for. I hope the spices and wax have arrived, with Mr. James's cloak cloth, which I sent by Drywry. Mr. Wyndham cometh not up before the time, so I ride to him early tomorrow, and will be shortly after at Calais. London, 12 May.
Mr. Marshal (fn. 3) is at Calais, and sped not to his mind.
Hol., p. 1. Add.
12 May.
R. O.
709. Anne Rouaud (Madame de Bours) to Lady Lisle.
It is long since I received your letters, which I sent immediately to Amiens, to obtain wools of the colors you ask for. I could not obtain them sooner, as they had none dyed, but I send you 17 lb. to choose from, which I received on Saturday last. I am sorry I was not at Gaissart. "Il n'y en a en tout pour douze livres, et coute la livre quatorze solz." The bearer demands 50 sols. Pont de Remy, 12 (?) May.
My brother Mons. de Riou and Madame de Riou send commendations. Desires a greyhound for a friend. Is sure lady Lisle does not take ill her frequent importunities. Signed.
Fr., p. 1. Add. Below the signature in another hand is written: Summa xxxij. s. ix. d. st.
13 May.
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710. Queen Anne to the Abbot of York.
Whereas at your preferment to the abbey of York we requested you for one John Eldmer (Aylmer). B.D., of good learning and virtuous government, who stood in the election to be abbot, as you did, that the said John should continue his studies at the University of Cambridge, to which you consented: we are credibly informed that you have not only called him home, contrary to our request, but charged him with certain offices, to the great disturbance of his studies. We, therefore, desire you will allow him to return to the University, with sufficient maintenance to pursue his studies. Westminster, 13 May.
Copy, p. 1.
13 May.
R. O.
St. P. v. 22.
711. Queen Margaret to Henry VIII.
Has spoken with his servant Swallow, who brought no letter from the King. Fears Henry has forgotten her, but she will always be his loving sister. Can do more than anyone in Scotland, except her son. Wrote and sent credence to Henry by lord William Howard. Desires an answer at Henry's pleasure, for her poor tenants got "infinite skaith" at the time of the last war in the earldom of March, Colbrandespeth, &c. Stirling. 13 May. Signed.
14 May.
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712. Sir Gregory da Casale to Cromwell.
When I had been ill over two months, and was still unable to rise from bed, the French ambassador came and showed me letters from his King, urging that the things done under pope Clement against our King should be declared null. They are the most effective letters Francis has ever written, and I suppose a copy has been sent to the King. The Ambassador asked how he should proceed; and I advised him, telling him what the Pope had said about the matter. I am perplexed, however, not to have heard from England what is thought of the French king's proposals; whether the King likes them, or does not care, or wishes the contrary. I wish to know also whether I am to go to Venice. Not knowing that was the chief cause of my illness. I warned the French ambassador to request the Pope not to consult on the matter with Simonetta, who has always been against the King's cause. The Pope, on hearing the Ambassador, asked time to reply, and has not yet done so. He is certainly one who is long in deliberating. Since he was made Pope he has not done one of the things he meditated, and I think he will be slow to move in this. The French ambassador told me that he was to have an answer today in the Pope's name from the Auditor of the Chamber and Simonetta. But I think he will either receive none, or a very vague one. Rome, 14 May 1535. Signed.
Lat., pp. 2. Add.
14 May.
R. O.
St. P. vii. 599.
713. Sir G. da Casale to Cromwell.
Wrote how his brother the Prothonotary had endeavoured to find his way to King John. Ferdinand had all the approaches to Hungary watched, and especially now that peace is being negotiated at Vienna between him and John, whom he does not wish to be advised by any prince. Hieronymus Rorarius, who was sent by the Pope to Hungary, could not get leave to pass. The Prothonotary was offered a safe passage by the bishop of Zagrab, and his secretary got through safely, but the Prothonotary has been detained at the Castle of San Mobor, together with Andrew Corsinus, king John's secretary, who was last year in England. His remonstrances were useless, and he and Corsino will be sent to Vienna. The Pope thinks it most unadvisable to have given the kings of England and France a cause of complaint, and they may think it a declaration of war. If the King intend to do anything for his liberation, there must be no delay, for Ferdinand may ill-treat him.
Is not surprised that Cromwell has been prevented from answering his letters. Would have gone to Venice, but has been detained by illness for two months, and remained at first by desire of the cardinal of Lorraine. Now it will be better for him to go to Venice, and the Venetian ambassador says that he is expected. Carlo Capelli has returned from England, and another ambassador will not be sent until it is certain about Casale going thither. Will go as soon as he can bear the journey. Asks for some information about the wishes of the King and Cromwell.
The Pope lately set out for Civita Vecchia, to wait for the part of the Imperial fleet under the marquis of Guasto, and to pay the wages of 12 galleys. Thirty-six of the Emperor's transports at that time passed Civita Vecchia, and have gone to Gaeta. The Pope, after appointing the count of Anguillar captain of these galleys, had withdrawn to neighbouring places in his own States, when he heard that 50 galleys had been seen off Salerno, in which it was thought was Barbarossa himself. Guasto immediately went to Naples, and the Pope to Rome. It was afterwards found out to be the Jewish pirate, not Barbarossa. Perhaps the story was made up to exact a tax in Naples. Doria has gone towards Spain.
Letters from Spain state that the Emperor will sail to Sardinia, and thence to Sicily. His fleet is said to number more than 200 ships. The duke of Urbino has gone to aid his son at Camerino with 6,000 foot and 500 horse. He has summoned Baptista Savellus, a papal officer, who has refused to go to him. It is said the Duke threatened to invade Rome.
Cardinal of Ravenna, accused of putting to death people of Ancona, has been sent to the castle of St. Angelo. He lays the blame on the Vice-legate and Clement VII. Trani and the other cardinals are trying to defend him. His case is referred to six cardinals.
By letters from Spain of May 4, Doria had joined the Emperor, who said he should shortly embark. Rome, 14 May 1535. Signed.
Lat., pp. 6. Add. Endd. Sealed.
14 May.
R. O.
714. King's College, Cambridge, to Cromwell.
Apologise for obtruding their letters on the attention of one so much occupied with State affairs. But, considering his zeal for learning, and the benefits he has conferred on the university, request that he will obtain for them the King's licence to create one of their fellows bachelor or doctor of Divinity in the room of the deceased bishop of Hereford, in accordance with the ordinances of their founder, Henry VI. Cambridge, pridie idus Maii.
Lat., p. 1. Add.: Ill. viro domino Thomæ Crumwello. Endd.
14 May.
R. O.
715. John Salisbury to Henry VIII.
Reporting the excellent service done by Serjeant White in the defence of Dublin Castle against the traitor Thomas Fitzgerald. Hopes the King will notice this to the encouraging of others. Dublin, 14 May. Signed.
P. 1. Add.
15 May.
R. O.
716. Thos. Agard to Cromwell.
On coming to Chester, met Talbott's servant who is in the Fleet. Sends copies of letters which he had for Ireland. Met also Leonard Skeyvington, and Powell, the treasurer's servant, coming to London. Pawlett has sped well. He has brought with him 16 or 20 hobbies and Thos. Kyldare's wife. Begs Cromwell to be as he has ever been to the Treasurer, for Pawlett little favours him because he shows him the plainness of his mind. Hopes to leave for Ireland with the first wind. "Rutland" (Rhuddlan), 15 May.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Mr. Secretary, at the Rolls. Endd.
15 May.
Nero, B. iii. 130.
B. M.
717. Christopher Count Oldenburg and Delmenhorst to Henry VIII.
There is no need to recount to the King his entry into Denmark with an army to release his kinsman King Christiern from an unjust imprisonment. Will persevere till the end in the cause he has once taken up, and Albert duke of Mecklenburg (Megopolensium) has joined him. Asks the King for assistance. The King will have further information from the papers which George Vuluiurer, consul of Lubeck, will show him. Copenhagen, 15 May 1535.
Hol., Lat., p. 1. Add.
[...] May.
[...] F. xiii. 139.
B. M.
718. Henry Norryce to Cromwell.
Asks him to favour Master Stourton in his suit. Greenwich, Saturday, 15 May. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: Master Secretary.
16 May. 719. Cromwell.
See Grants in May, No. 29.
16 May.
R. O.
720. Abp. Lee to Cromwell.
He and his fellow commissioners for the valuation of spiritual possessions were commanded to send in their certificate in the octaves of Trinity. Fears they will not be able to do so, because some of their fellows having the limits of the deanery of Bulmer have been at Westminster all this last term, as Sir Edward Gower and Roger Lasselles; also few of the auditors appointed on their commission came, and some were named in the bishopric of Durham and the archdeaconry of Richmond as well. Will make ail diligence to send in their report, and trust not to be long behind their day. Bisshopsthorpe, 16 May 1535. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: "Secretary." Endd.
16 May.
R. O.
721. Abp. Lee to Cromwell.
Has before complained of the misdemeanour of some of the town of Beverley. Since then, eight of them came with their common letters, confessing that they had usurped upon the Archbishop and his predecessors. He conceded their requests, on two conditions: (1) that they should return to the old order of election of the 12 governors, and should allow one Wiese, who had been warned to leave for speaking in favour of the Archbishop's liberties, to remain in his house. They returned home, and moved the burgesses of 17 crafts, 15 of which agreed to take the old form of election. The other two, allured by old Sir Ralph Ellerker and others, would not condescend to it. "The said Sir Ralph took all the billes, and put them in his purse. At the daye wiche was appoynted that they should come to me with their commen seale they came not, ne long aftre." Sir Ralph took the bills, which ought to have remained with the clerk, that he might continue one of the 12 governors, against the old ordinances, and insisted that Wiese should leave his house. When, therefore, the burgesses came to the Archbishop with their seal, he told them, as they had confessed, under their own hands and marks, that he was at his liberty to grant or deny their suit, he had no cause to yield his liberties to those who would not allow a poor man to enjoy his house. Dismissed them accordingly without his seal; but, hoping they would the sooner relent, allowed them to enjoy what things they required, and still does so. This was at Christmas. At St. Mark's Day, when they elect their governors, Sir Ralph, being asked for the books of the 15 crafts aforesaid, behaved in a very violent manner. He first gave them the bill of the names of those out of whom to elect the 12 governors, but afterwards substituted one in which were named himself and eight others who were governors the year before. There are thus no governors legally elected. Sir Ralph has put one of his opponents in prison, and is likely to make "some great revell" in the town. Requests Cromwell to send letters to Sir Ralph and one Robt. Graye, and Sawnderson, his chief councillors, to leave the town. Bisshopsthorpe, 16 May 1535. Signed.
Pp. 3. Add.: "Secretarie." Endd.
16 May.
R. O.
722. John Smith [of Paul's] to Sir Edw. Baynton.
Whereas the King has been informed of a precious little cross with a crucifix of pure gold and a rich ruby in the side, garnished with 4 great diamonds, 4 great emeralds, 4 large balasses, 12 great orient pearls, amongst the jewels of our church; and upon the King's high affection and pleasure of the sight of the same, I, with other of my brethren residentiaries, were yesterday commanded by Mr. Secretary in the King's name to be with the King with the said cross tomorrow: I ascertain you as my trusty friend that by my special instruction and conveyance his Grace shall have his pleasure thereon, and receive the same of our free gift, trusting in his charitable goodness toward our church of St. Paul.
Whereas my unkind brother, Mr. Incent, has made labour to supplant me out of the deanery house, which I now have by the sufferance of Dr. Sampson, dean of the King's chapel, and on which I have expended 40l., and makes labour to have the same authority and government of the deanery of St. Paul's as Dr. Sampson has: I beg you will enterprise in this matter with the Queen for me, considering the diligent love and service I showed her at her coronation, and at the birth of my lady Princess. I have always furthered the promotion of her chaplains against Incent's opposition, who used such odious words as I am ashamed to write. If you can procure me her favour, and prevent Incent's purposes, I will give you two years' rent of my prebend of Alkannynges. Give credence to my servant Thos. Benger. Whit Sunday, 16 May. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: Sir Edw. Baynton, vice-chamberlain to the Queen.
Harl. MS.
295, f. 149 b.
B. M.
2. Copy of the preceding.
16 May.
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723. Robt. Dyllon to the Earl of Ormond and Wiltshire.
Has received his letter by Thomas Geffry, and sends his nephew, Thos. Dillon, to account for his lordship's lands here. Geffry will tell him of the troubles here. If he knew that his nephew had offended the King or his subjects to the value of 3d. would never write in his favour. Has charge of his lordship's lands only for one year, for which he is clear, as the account shows. Henceforth, if he pleases, will send his rents yearly at Bartholomew Tide. The tenants are so poor that he has paid money for them that he will not receive this half year.
The land will amend daily. If it were all in the Earl's hands could increase it 20 nobles yearly. Geffrey will tell him of the ruinous state of the manor of Donoghmore or Blackcastle. Asks him to write in his favour to the Deputy Treasurer. Sent 43l. by John Gerot and the remainder, 7l. 3s. 5d., by Geffrey. Dublin, 16 May.
Hol., p. 1. Add.
16 May.
Royal MS. 18 B. vi. 30.
B. M.
724. James V. to the Earl of Oldenburgh.
Requests him to procure the release of a Scotch ship, which has been arrested by the people of Lubeck contrary to justice and the law of nations. "Ex Regia nostra," 16 May 1535.
Lat., p. 1. Copy. Add.: Illustri et potenti domino, Gravi de Oldenburgh, consanguineo suo carissimo, cæterisque regni Daniæ consiliariis.
Ibid., f. 39 b. 2. Another copy of the same.
17 May.
Vienna Archives.
725. Henry VIII. to Wallop.
"Sensuyt ce que le Roy dangleterre a escript an sr Wallop, capne du chasteaul de Calaiz et son ambassadeur en France pour dire et respondre a celluy de lempereur resident celle part."
Articles specially relating to our amity, for the agreement to a General Council, with great desire to have our cause there determined, and therewith the good treatment of the Princess Dowager and the lady Mary, our daughter. 1. To that you shall say that you have received an answer to the said articles, in which, notwithstanding that we show ourselves willing to renew the said amity which has always existed between us two, putting apart every occasion of ingratitude formerly shown to us, and which cannot make us hate him whom we entirely love, especially when the cause of offence has been removed; nevertheless, we complain that the Emperor, his master, out of the affection he bears to one woman, would abandon entirely his most loyal and perfect friend; nevertheless, our inclination to the said amity will proceed more of the nobility of our heart than from any overture made on his part. 2. You may say that as to the consent to a General Council, we consider that very expedient in the present state of the world. As a means of promoting union in the Faith, we can very well agree to such a Council, provided it be summoned at a suitable place, with security to all princes who wish to be present. 3. As to the reformation of things requiring to be amended, you may say we do not think it necessary that our cause should be determined there, for we consider it has been already determined by the assent of a General Council, although not assembled in one place, because the greater part of the universities of Christendom have already determined it in favour of our clergy and common law; and what more could we have than the consent of learned men, perhaps not so indifferent as those who have already judged it? Moreover, those who are appointed to take part in a General Council are deputed by superiors, and in matters to which they are inclined they have already shown partiality by labouring to hinder justice, pretending to have cognisance of that, as they themselves have plainly declared by writings towards some, and by mouth towards others. We, therefore, will never consent to have our cause brought in question again, nor will we agree to a General Council in Italy, Germany, or any of the Emperor's dominions, or those of the bishop of Rome, where decisions might be obtained by a multitude in behalf of their own affairs, or to revenge private quarrels, which would tend rather towards disturbance than to advancement of the Word of God. 4. Finally, touching the treatment of the Princess Dowager and lady Mary, you will say that if the Emperor will write to the said Dowager to submit herself to the law of God, already determined by the majority of the universities of Christendom, which we take as if it had been decreed by a General Council, and be obedient to the laws of the realm, we shall not only be willing to treat her honourably as our sister, and as belongs to her birth and parentage, but also to make provision for our daughter on her doing the same, and conducting herself honourably towards us and our laws, as she is bound to do by the law of God, and we shall esteem them both, because they are of kin to the Emperor and otherwise allied to us, showing that we are much grieved at their obstinacy against the law of God, which has compelled us to treat them with less respect in the sight of the world than is due to their estates; and that we wish every one to see that this has arisen more from their obstinacy than from anything else, by the encouragement they have received from the Emperor, his master; and you are to urge that henceforth he will cease to encourage them, as we doubt not he will, if he really desires to conciliate us. Further, we wish plainly to declare that if the Emperor is sincere in desiring this perfect amity with us, he must on no account oppress us with dishonourable conditions in matters relating to justice and the right of our laws.
Modern copy, French, pp. 3. The original endorsed: "Responce que me baillie le sr Walop ambassadeur du roy dangleterre en france le xviie de may 1535 a Rouen, sur les pointes et articles que luy avois precedentement bailliez."
17 May.
Add. MS. 8,715, f. 53.
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726. Bishop of Faenza to M. Ambrogio.
* * * The ambassadors of Spain, England, Portugal, and Venice have been at Rouen for 20 days without having seen the Court. Says this to show that the manner of conducting business here prevents him from using such diligence as he would like.
The Grand Master advises the Pope to send spontaneously a bull granting Francis the three tenths; and thinks that if the Pope shows some goodwill to the King, they will break off many designs which come here from England. Agrees with this advice.
The Admiral left four days ago for Calais, and with him the Grand Esquire, councillor Peret, and the secretary Bucchietel. The Swiss ambassadors have not had an answer. Three Lutherans were burnt in Paris about ten days ago. One, a Fleming, who refused to kiss the cross, or acknowledge his error, was slowly roasted alive.
There is strange news here of the cruelty of the king of England to certain religious men. He caused them to be ripped up in each other's presence, their arms torn off (con farli scarpar le braccia), their hearts cut out and rubbed upon their months and faces; and this for having caused remorse (per haver fatto coscienza) to certain ecclesiasties who had sworn that the King was Head of the English Church, and not the Pope. Has seen a letter of the 5th from London, saying that on the 4th a prior of one of the three Charterhouses, two friars of the Order, a prior of Sion, and a priest, who refused to swear to the King's supremacy, were hanged without degradation, as rebels. They were dragged through the streets in carts, their heads and feet were to be placed on the public gates, and the rest of their bodies burnt. The whole city is displeased, as they were of exemplary and holy life. It was thought that 10 or 12 priests now in the Tower would be also executed for the same cause. The same letter states that this "Gherardo" (Fitzgerald) in Ireland has lost a strong castle, and retired with 50 horse to the bogs, where he is safe while the wet weather lasts; but when it changes it will be easy for the King to take him dead or alive, for most of his followers have returned to their allegiance.
The duke of Norfolk with other English gentlemen and about 300 horses were to start on the 12th. In place of Cromwell, who cannot leave, having the control of everything in his hands, lord Rochford, the brother of the new Queen, or a bishop, her almoner, will come.
News has come of the capture, by the king of the Romans, of the prothonotary Casale, who was sent to king John on the part of England.
Hol., pp. 13. Copy. Headed: A M. Ambrogio da Carlemesnel, (fn. 4) alli 17 di Maggio, ritenuta fino alli 18, &c.
R. O. 2. Extract from the above, from the Vatican Archives.
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727. Edward Thompson, Mayor of Cambridge, and Robert Chapman, to Cromwell.
I was informed by Will. Richardson, of Cambridge, that Martin Bassett, vicar of St. Clement's, Cambridge, has spoken traitorous words against the King, which on Tuesday last I showed to Robert Chapman, and by his advice sent immediately for Mr. Slegg, serjeant-at-arms, and other of the aldermen, intending to send for Richardson and examine him. As he was gone to Lynn, he could do no more till his return on Saturday last. On Sunday, before Slegg, Chapman, Rob. Smith, and other aldermen, I examined Richardson, who deposed that upon Wednesday in Easter week last past he chanced to meet the vicar in the street of Cambridge about the Dolphin gate; where, after familiar salutation, the vicar asked him if he would drink a pint of wine; and on his consenting they went to Thomas Hennyng at the "Pump" tavern, and talked of divers things; among others, of certain trees growing in the churchyard, which the vicar desired to have, saying that his benefice was poor by reason of the great payments yearly made to the King; and he said, "Rather than the King should have this money paid to him and his successors according to the Act, it were better that the King had no head above his shoulders, nor none that should succeed him." Then, on Richardson asking if there were any more of that opinion, the vicar said, "Yea, 20,000 in England." On which deponent said, "It is the more pity;" and if ever I hear of any rising amongst you, I shall let it as well as I can, and whomsoever I catch make them sure for bearing tidings to their fellows. Then the vicar, perceiving he was somewhat earnest, said, "Neighbour Richardson, there be no one here but you and I." On this deposition we have arrested the vicar, and send him up to you to be examined before the Council. Cambridge, 17 May.
Hol., pp. 2. Add.: Secretary. Endd.
17 May.
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728. Roger Beverlaye, Priest, to Cromwell.
Put up a supplication to the King as founder of Tillteye, which he delivered to Dr. Wolman, and lord George stopped it. The late Lord Marques (fn. 5) sent to the fathers of the religion to cause him to resign, and assured him 20l. under convent seal, which was not truly paid. Was content to take 10l., but has had nothing since Michaelmas. Is in a strange country, and has nothing but this pension, which he cannot get, notwithstanding the great bonds under the convent seal of Tillteye, as well as of the abbots of Woburn and Tower Hill. Gives Cromwell all the forfeits to help him to the rest. Sent Cromwell a book of the acts of Bartilmew Fytzgerald, "that was the confusion of my lord (archbishop Alen)." Could not get the author's surname, but he is a merchant dwelling at the "Rose," in the Poultry. Knows one priest who robbed my Lord after he was killed, and broke out of Dublin Castle with some of his money and a goodly cross of gold with a great pearl. He has purchased a good benefice, and has money at will. They who intend truly to God and their King can have nothing, in spite of Cromwell's tender letter on his behalf. Has not had a penny since Easter. Owes for his board since Christmas, and fears he will be put out. If any of my Lord's money or jewels lacks, hopes to bring it to revelation. If Cromwell will help him to a benefice, will give him his annuity for any of his friends. Dublin, 17 May 1535.
Hol., pp. 2. Add. Endd.
18 May.
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729. Roger Beverlaye, late of Tylteye, to Richard Cromwell.
Can get nothing, notwithstanding the tender letter of "my good master your uncle." My Lord gave him the parsonage of Delganye, but the Deputy has given it to one of his chaplains. Asks him to move his uncle to write again on his behalf. Offers him his annuity of 10l. out of Tyltey, if he will be mean to get him some benefice in England. Dublin, 18 May 1535.
P. 1. Hol. Add.: At the Austen Freers, in London.
[18 May.]
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730. Thomas Bedyll to Cromwell.
Can do him the greatest service. The matter is well entered, I thank you, and by you can be brought to good effect. I think that my lord of York will offer you certain pleasures for stopping your suit in this matter, more than I can. If he insists on the promotion of his chaplains, I have a benefice worth 40l. a year in London, named All Hallows the More, (fn. 6) which I am willing to resign. I would rather have this than any bishopric in England, and will never ask anything more. From Aldersgate Street, where I dwell, Tuesday in Whitsun week, 12 at night.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Secretary.
18 May.
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731. Jane Ryngeley to Lady Lisle.
I thank you for your many kindnesses. Your beads of coral with a heart of gold were a great comfort to me, knowing that you loved them so well; that you were wont to wear them about your arm. I send you your token again by him called Master Marshal (fn. 7) by name, that I love best, and your Ladyship next. I beg you to cherish him in my absence.
Commend me to my Lord Deputy, my lady Clynton, my lady Banester, and all the young gentlewomen pertaining to your Ladyship there, "also to my husband, Mr. Secretary."
I beg that my lady Banester may not have all the love in my absence. I have sent you a ring of gold with a flat diamond, by Perys, my servant, who is to be married on Sunday sevennight. Knolton, 18 May.
Hol., pp. 2. Add.: In Calais.
[19 May.]
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732. Christopher Hales to Cromwell.
According to your pleasure signified to me when I left you last, I send you a conveyance for an estate from you and your servants, Palmer and John Antony, of the house and lands which you have of the archdeacon of Canterbury. My lord of Norfolk and his company left this place yesterday "rathe in the morning," and are yet at Dover. Canterbury, Wednesday in Pentecost week.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Secretary and Master of the Rolls. Sealed. Endd.
19 May.
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733. Will. Abbot of York to Dr. Bellousis.
I would gladly have retained your kinsman in my service had he been contented to stay; but I suppose he has some sinister counsel. Let no misreport draw your friendship from me. Myton, 19 May. Signed.
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734. The Bishop of Aberdeen to Cromwell.
Has received Cromwell's letter expressing the King's satisfaction at the entertainment given by James to lord William at his being here, and requesting the Bishop to put forward the matter about the sheriff of Linlithgow. (fn. 8) James will do what the King desires in the latter if it were a thing of a thousand times more weight, provided the gentleman be first reconciled by the Pope; otherwise it is against his conscience, even to give it to his wife, who wants nothing for herself and her children. This Cromwell will see by the King's answer and the Queen's, sent by this bearer. Will do his best to promote amity. Complaints are come that broken men are resett in England. Hopes that "sharp charge" will be given to the wardens, for James does all he can to punish "lyermaris" in his realm. Jedburgh, 19 May. Signed.
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20 May.
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735. Sir Francis Bigod to Cromwell.
The reason he writes instead of coming himself is merely that he has not yet such money as he owes Cromwell. Was never so ashamed of anything. Unless Cromwell wink at this lewdness, accounts himself utterly cast away. As his wife has not purveyed the money she expected, is "riden" (qu. riding?) home as fast as possible to procure it, and Cromwell shall certainly have it soon after Pentecost. Forbears till then to press his late suits. Prays God to make Cromwell strong in this perilous time to set forth His blessed Word, as he has begun. Si peccaverit in te frater tuus, &c. London, 20 May.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Secretary. Endd.
20 May.
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736. Sir Thomas Arundell to Cromwell.
When my lord Dawbeney was with me on Tuesday in Whitsuntide, one Alex. Clavell, talking with one of his servants, was reported to have lamented first the stormy weather and then the world, "saying it was a heavy world, and like to be worse shortly, for he had heard say that the priests would rise against the King," and it was never more likely than now, "because they should pay so much money to the King's grace." On being examined he told me that he had not mentioned the King but the Crown, and that he had heard the saying from one of my father's tenants, who had it from an old man called Payne, dwelling three miles from me. This was confirmed by the tenant, who had heard the old man say so several times; and, moreover, that at last "the priests should be fain to flee and hide themself and cover their crowns with the filth of the beasts, because they would not be known." I then went to the old man, who was too aged to come. He confessed he had told several "that the priests should make a field." I asked how he knew it; and he said by the report of his master, a well learned man, who had been dead 50 years. He added that the parish priests would rule the realm three days and three nights, "and then the white falcon should come out of the north-west and kill almost all the priests, and they that should escape should be fain to hide their crowns," &c. This is all I can hear of this wise matter; but my duty requires me to inform you. I should be glad to know your pleasure about my last letter. Chydyoke, 20 May.
Hol., pp. 2. Add.: To the right hon. Master Secretary. Endd.
[20 May.]
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737. Edward Knyghtley, Sergeant-at-Law, to Cromwell.
I advertise you of the misdemeanour of Ric. Tydder, a tailor in Blisworth, in service with Robt. Palmer, tailor, who discharged Tydder, and paid him his wages. About nine o'clock the said Richard broke open a window in his master's hall, where divers garments were ready made, the hall door being locked, and his master not at home. He was seen and brought to the stocks, confessing that he had intended to rob his master. Being cautioned what he said before the King's watchmen, he said to them, "Ye be the King's watchmen; the King liveth in avowtry, and so hath done all the days of his life." Being warned, he said he would abide by it, and that he trusted to see the King's head run upon the ground like a football. So he was conveyed to Northampton Castle. He has been examined before me and Master Barnard, one of the justices of the peace. Gives the names of the witnesses. Some say he was so drunk that he knew not in the morning what he had said overnight. Please to consider that the breaking of the house that time at night to the intent to rob is burgularie and felony, for which he ought to die; but he is a clerk, and can speak Latin, and write very well. Blisworth, Thursday in Whitsun week.
Hol., p. I. Add.: Mr. Secretary. Endd.
[20 May.]
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738. Christopher Ascheton to Cromwell.
One Thos. Gold, who was with me on business on the 20th May, began to rail on the King, wondering that I would be his servant. He said that neither his Grace nor his servants should long prosper. I let him go on, and he said you were "a false wretch, a baudy wretch and a tyrant;" that you had put him from a parsonage worth 100l. a year; that when he was in the Tower you had asked him for it for master Croke of the Chancery, and because he refused it, he was kept a quarter of a year longer than he should have been. Is in commission for the subsidy in Oxfordshire, but, if excused, will come "to awoye hytt."
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Mr. Cromewell, high secretary, &c.
20 May.
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739. William Hammond to Cranmer.
I abide in Lovayne, for when I came I was very sick of the "washing of the sea." On Saturday last appeared in Lovayne certain new books, of which I send one. The monastical brothers here fear their houses will perish for these books. They have faith in the provincial of the "Cartutians" who lately came from Italy, prophesying all rules of religion to be annulled, and affirming the most part attaining unto the bishop of Rome to be heretics. (fn. 9) I am bound by your goodness to write the news which doth "advolat" wherever I shall be. In Italy an answer is a making (according to the clergy of Lovayn) against the King's epistle to the Emperor. (fn. 9) Greek and Hebrew "flower" at Lovayn; but Divinity will not "flower" as long as the religious brothers bear chief rule. There are two licentiates here, who excel all the doctors, as appeared in disputing of the authority of the bishop of Rome. (fn. 9) From the text Pasce agnos meos, the doctors hold the bishop of Rome head of the Church. (fn. 9) These disputations are not yet "absolvyd." The common people are against him, especially for the indulgence. (fn. 9) Bargen, 20 May.
Below is written in Cranmer's hand: "The book that he sent me was Concilium delectorum Cardinalium de emendanda ecclesia," which contains a passage (quoted in full) in favour of abolishing conventual orders.
Pp. 2. Add.: Abp. of Canterbury. Endd.
20 May. 740. Sir Roger Tounesend to Cromwell.
Touching the prior of the Black Friars, Norwich. See Vol. vii., No. 694, which seems to be of this year.
20 May.
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741. Sir Thos. Audeley, Chancellor, to Lord Lisle, Deputy of Calais, Sir Richard Grenfeld, and Sir Thos. Palmer.
Is astonished to hear that Lisle and others, pretending to have exclusive jurisdiction over all causes in Calais, have sent word to say that they cannot decide in a question between John Highfeld, guardian of Thos. Hawll, and John Rogers and Margaret his wife, daughter of Rob. Hawll, but have remitted the same to Audeley. Enters into a consideration of the case, and advises them how they are to proceed. Sends them a fresh commission, desiring them to call the parties before them. Reform the judgment of the mayor of Calais, if it be requisite. London, 20 May. Signed.
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742. Creation of Cardinals.
"Diaria Pontificum," 1535.
Note of the decree for the creation of seven cardinals, 20 May, viz.: Nicholas abp. of Capua; Jas. Simonetta, Auditor of the Chamber; Jerome Ghinucci; John Du Bellay, bp. of Paris; John bp. of Rochester, kept in prison by the king of England; Gaspar Contarenus, Venetian; Martin Prothonotary Caracciolo.
On the 20th June news came of the death of Anthony, legate of France; on the 26th of the cardinal of Rochester having been put to death by the king of England.
Lat., p. 1. From a modern copy in R.O.


  • 1. De Riou.
  • 2. Anne Basset.
  • 3. Sir Edw. Ryngeley.
  • 4. Charlemenil. The Vatican transcript adds, "three leagues from Dieppe."
  • 5. Dorset.
  • 6. He was collated to it 30 Dec. 1534 on the death of Dr. Taylor. Newcourt, i. 249.
  • 7. Her husband, Sir Edw. Ryngeley.
  • 8. James Hamilton of Kincavill.
  • 9. These passages are underlined, probably by Cranmer.