House of Lords Journal Volume 17: 16 January 1703

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 17, 1701-1705. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 17: 16 January 1703', in Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 17, 1701-1705, (London, 1767-1830) pp. 242-244. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/lords-jrnl/vol17/pp242-244 [accessed 25 April 2024]

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DIE Sabbati, 16 Januarii.

Domini tam Spirituales quam Temporales præsentes fuerunt:

Arch. Cant.
Epus. London.
Epus. Dunelm. & Crew.
Epus. Wigorn.
Epus. Roffen.
Epus. Exon.
Epus. Sarum.
Epus. Hereford.
Epus. Eliens.
Epus. Lich. & Cov.
Epus. Norwic.
Epus. Petrib.
Epus. Gloucestr.
Epus. Bristol.
Epus. St. Asaph.
Epus. Cicestr.
Epus. Oxon.
Epus. Bangor.
Epus. Carlisle.		 Dux Cumberland.
Ds. Custos Magni Sigilli.
Comes Pembroke, Præses.
March. Normanby, C. P. S.
Dux Devonshire, Senescallus.
Dux Somerset.
Dux Richmond.
Dux Southampton.
Dux Ormonde.
Dux Northumberland.
Dux Bolton.
Dux Schonburg.
Dux Leeds.
Dux Bedford.
Dux Newcastle.
Dux Marlborough.
Comes Lindsey, Magnus Camerarius.
Comes Carlisle, Marescallus.
Comes Jersey, Camerarius.
Comes Oxford.
Comes Kent.
Comes Derby.
Comes Huntingdon.
Comes Bridgewater.
Comes Leicester.
Comes Northampton.
Comes Denbigh.
Comes Manchester.
Comes Rivers.
Comes Peterborow.
Comes Stamford.
Comes Kingston.
Comes Carnarvon.
Comes Sunderland.
Comes Scarsdale.
Comes Sandwich.
Comes Essex.
Comes Anglesey.
Comes Sussex.
Comes Feversham.
Comes Radnor.
Comes Nottingham.
Comes Rochester.
Comes Abingdon.
Comes Holderness.
Comes Plimouth.
Comes Portland.
Comes Montagu.
Comes Torrington.
Comes Scarbrough.
Comes Warrington.
Comes Bradford.
Comes Romney.
Comes Orford.
Viscount Hereford.
Viscount Townshend.
Viscount Weymouth.
Viscount Longueville.		 Ds. Bergevenny.
Ds. Lawarr.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. North & Grey.
Ds. Chandos.
Ds. Brooke.
Ds. Grey W.
Ds. Poulett.
Ds. Howard Esc.
Ds. Mohun.
Ds. Raby.
Ds. Byron.
Ds. Colepeper.
Ds. Lucas.
Ds. Rockingham.
Ds. Lexington.
Ds. Berkeley.
Ds. Cornwallis.
Ds. Osborne.
Ds. Ossulstone.
Ds. Dartmouth.
Ds. Cholmondeley.
Ds. Ashburnham.
Ds. Herbert.
Ds. Haversham.
Ds. Sommers.
Ds. Bernard.
Ds. Halifax.

PRAYERS.

River Cham, alias Grant, navigable, Bill.

Hodie 2a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for making the River Cham, alias Grant, in the County of Cambridge, more navigable, from Hith Ferry to the Queen's Mill, in the University and Town of Cambridge."

ORDERED, That the Consideration of the said Bill be committed to the Lords following; (videlicet,)

March. Normanby, C. P. S.
Dux Devonshire, Senescallus.
Dux Somerset.
Dux Richmond.
Dux Northumberland.
Dux Bolton.
Dux Leeds.
Dux Bedford.
Dux Newcastle.
Comes Lindsey, Magnus Camerarius.
Comes Carlisle, Marescallus.
Comes Kent.
Comes Derby.
Comes Huntingdon.
Comes Bridgewater.
Comes Northampton.
Comes Denbigh.
Comes Manchester.
Comes Rivers.
Comes Peterborow.
Comes Stamford.
Comes Kingston.
Comes Sunderland.
Comes Scarsdale.
Comes Essex.
Comes Anglesey.
Comes Feversham.
Comes Radnor.
Comes Nottingham.
Comes Rochester.
Comes Abingdon.
Comes Plimouth.
Comes Torrington.
Comes Scarbrough.
Comes Warrington.
Comes Orford.
(fn. 1) Viscount Townshend.
(fn. 1) Viscount Longueville.		 Arch. Cant.
Epus. London.
Epus. Duresm. & Crew.
Epus. Winton.
Epus. Wigorn.
Epus. Roffen.
Epus. Exon.
Epus. Sarum.
Epus. Hereford.
Epus. Eliens.
Epus. Lich. & Cov.
Epus. Norwic.
Epus. Petrib.
Epus. Gloucestr.
Epus. Bristol.
Epus. St. Asaph.
Epus. Lincoln.
Epus. Cicestr.
Epus. Oxon.
Epus. Bangor.
Epus. Carlisle.		 Ds. Bergevenny.
Ds. Lawarr.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. North & Grey.
Ds. Chandos.
Ds. Grey W.
Ds. Lovelace.
Ds. Poulet.
Ds. Howard Esc.
Ds. Mohun.
Ds. Raby.
Ds. Culpeper.
Ds. Lucas.
Ds. Rockingham.
Ds. Lexington.
Ds. Berkeley.
Ds. Cornwallis.
Ds. Dartmouth.
Ds. Cholmondeley.
Ds. Ashburnham.
Ds. Weston.
Ds. Herbert.
Ds. Haversham.
Ds. Sommers.
Ds. Bernard.
Ds. Halifax.

Their Lordships, or any Five of them; to meet on Monday the Eighteenth Day of this Instant January, at Ten a Clock in the Forenoon, in the Prince's Lodgings near the House of Peers; and to adjourn as they please.

Sir E. Williams's Bill.

Hodie 2a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to enable Sir Edward Williams to sell certain Manors and Lands, in the Counties of Brecon and Radnor, for Payment of Debts."

ORDERED, That the Consideration of the said Bill be referred to the Committee abovenamed; who are to meet on Tuesday the Nineteenth Day of this Instant January, in the Prince's Lodgings near the House of Peers.

Message from H. C. with a Bill.

A Message from the House of Commons, by Sir Charles Turner and others:

Who brought up a Bill, intituled, "An Act for explaining and making effectual a late Statute, concerning the Haven and Piers of the Borough of Great Yarmouth, and for confirming the Rights and Privileges of the said Borough;" to which they desire the Concurrence of this House.

Great Yarmouth Bill.

Hodie 1a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for explaining and making effectual a late Statute, concerning the Haven and Piers of the Borough of Great Yarmouth, and for confirming the Rights and Privileges of the said Borough."

Message from H. C. with a Bill.

A Message from the House of Commons, by Mr. Verney and others:

Who brought up a Bill, intituled, "An Act for Sale of Part of the Estate of Charles Morris Esquire, for the Payment of Debts charged thereupon, and for the making Provision for his Younger Children;" to which they desire the Concurrence of this House.

Morris's Bill.

Hodie 1a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for Sale of Part of the Estate of Charles Morris Esquire, for the Payment of Debts charged thereupon, and for the making Provision for his Younger Children."

Crowd in the Painted Chamber, to be cleared for Free Conference:

The House being informed, "That there is in the Painted Chamber so great a Crowd, that the Managers for the Commons cannot come to the Free Conference:"

The Lord Great Chamberlain being come in;

The Lord Keeper (by Order of the House) acquainted the Lord Great Chamberlain, "That the House desires him to take Care to clear the Painted Chamber, in order to have the Managers of the Commons come to the Bar."

Message from H. C. about it.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by the Lord Marquis of Hartington and others:

To acquaint their Lordships, "That the Managers have been to meet the Lords at the Free Conference; but that there was such a Crowd, that they could not get to the Table to manage the same; and to desire the Lords to give Order to prevent the same."

To which the House agreed.

Answer.

Then the Commons were called in, and told, "That this House will endeavour to clear the Painted Chamber, as desired."

Message to H. C. to send for their own Members from the Painted Chamber:

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Richard Holford and Mr. Pitt:

To acquaint them, "That the Lords have given Order to clear the Painted Chamber; but, unless the House of Commons will send for their own Members out of that Place, it will be very difficult to effect it."

Lords sent for from it.

Then the Lords, in the Painted Chamber, were sent for into the House.

Answer from the H. C.

The Messengers sent to the House of Commons, return Answer:

That they have already sent for their Members immediately, to attend the Service of that House.

Lords ordered to come from the Painted Chamber:

ORDERED, That the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod do command the Lords in the Painted Chamber immediately to attend in this House; and that, when the Lords are come in, they be acquainted, "That they ought to stay here, until there is Notice that the Commons are come to the Conference."

ORDERED, That the Gentleman Usher and a Clerk do go and take Notice of the Names of such Lords as refuse to come in.

Then, the Lords being come in, the Lord Keeper (by Command of the House) acquainted those Lords, "That they are to stay in the House, until Notice be given to the House, that the Commons are come to the Conference."

Message to H. C. that it is clear.

Then a Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Richard Holford and Mr. Pitt:

To let them know, "That the Painted Chamber is clear."

Free Conference, Occasional Conformity Bill:

The House being informed, "That the Commons were come to the Free Conference;" the Managers Names were read.

Then the House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the Lords went to the Free Conference.

Which being ended, the House was resumed.

Conference reported.

And the Lord Steward reported, "That they had attended the Free Conference; and that Mr. Bromley acquainted their Lordships, That the Commons had agreed to an Amendment, that the Lords had made to their Amendment; (videlicet,) 2 Skin, 33 Line; and that the Commons had insisted on their Disagreement to the Lords other Amendments."

Lords adhere to some of their Amendments.

Then the First Amendment made by the Lords, in 1st Skin, 10 Line, after ["scrupulous"], read ["but"]; 11 Line, leave out from ["Whereas"], to ["several"], in the 16th Line, was read.

After Debate;

The Question was put, "Whether this House shall adhere to this Amendment?"

It was Resolved in the Affirmative.

Then the Second Amendment, (videlicet,) 1st Skin, 20th Line, leave out ["such"].

After Debate;

The Question was put, "Whether this House shall adhere to this Amendment?"

It was Resolved in the Affirmative.

Then the Amendment in the Second Skin, 4 Line, (videlicet,) Leave out from ["Family"], to ["shall"], in the 15 Line, being read.

After Debate;

The Question was put, "Whether this House shall adhere to this Amendment?"

It was Resolved in the Negative.

Then the Amendment, 34 Line, leave out ["One Hundred Pounds, and Five Pounds for every Day, that any such Person shall continue in the Execution of such Office or Employment"]; and read, ["Twenty Pounds, to be divided into Three Parts, One Third Part to the Queen, One other to the Poor of the Parish where the Offence shall be committed, and One Part to the Informer."]

The Question was put, "Whether this House shall adhere to this Amendment?"

It was Resolved in the Affirmative.

Then the Amendment in the 3d Skin, 9 Line, leave out from ["aforesaid"] to the End of the Bill, being also read;

After Debate;

The Question was put, "Whether this House shall adhere to this Amendment?"

It was Resolved in the Affirmative.

Then the next Amendment, Clause (B.) concerning Protestant Dissenters being compellable to hold any Offices, &c. being read;

The Question was put, "Whether this House shall adhere to this Amendment?"

It was Resolved in the Affirmative.

Then the Clause (C.) being read (relating to the University Sermons);

It was agreed, to adhere to this Clause.

The Clause (D.) being read, relating to the French Churches allowed of;

It was agreed, to adhere to this Clause.

The Clause (E.) being also read (relating to Governors of Hospitals, &c).

It was agreed, to adhere to this Clause.

Proxy entered after Prayers, not to be used the same Day.

ORDERED, by the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in Parliament assembled, That the following Order of the Twentieth of March 1696, be added to the Roll of Standing Orders; (videlicet,)

"It is ORDERED, by the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in Parliament assembled, That no Proxy entered in the Book after Prayers shall be made Use of the same Day in any Question; and that the Clerks give an Account thereof to the House."

Adjourn.

Dominus Custos Magni Sigilli declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque ad et in diem Lunæ, decimum octavum diem instantis Januarii, hora undecima Auroræ, Dominis sic decernentibus.

Footnotes

  • 1. Origin. Comes.
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