House of Lords Journal Volume 4: 29 November 1641

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 4, 1629-42. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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DIE Lunæ, videlicet, 29 die Novembris.


Ld. Loftus's Cause.

A Letter was read, sent from the Council of Ireland to the Lord Keeper, which was concerning the Lord Viscount Loftus's Business: And so it is Ordered, That this Letter shall be considered of before the Hearing of the Lord Loftus's Cause, depending in this House.

Bill for laying down Privilege of Parliament in some Cases.

Hodie 2a vice lecta est Billa, An Act to lay down the Privileges of Parliament, in some Cases, this present Session.

Committed to a Committee of the whole House.

And it is Ordered, To be debated on Wednesday next.

Mr. Sheldens discharged.

William Shelden, Esquire, and Edward Shelden his Brother, appearing this Day before the Lords in Parliament, according to an Order of this House, dated the 27th of this Instant November, against whom there was nothing upon any Complaint against them: It is therefore thought fit, and so Ordered, That the said William and Edward Sheldens shall be forthwith discharged of any further Attendance upon this House, and are freed from any such Restraint as lieth now upon them (fn. 1) by this House.

E. St. Albans's Letter, concerning Ireland.

Next a Letter was read, written to the Lord Chamberlain from the Earl of St. Albanes, dated the Fourteenth of November 1641, from Ireland. The principal Particulars were these: "That the Town of Gallaway, in Ireland, is well fortified, and in Command of Mr. Willoughby: That that Province wherein his Lordship lives doth utterly mislike the Proceedings of the Rebels: That the County of Mayo is quiet: That Two Thousand Rebels in Letrim are gone out, but Four Towns stand out: That it is a Thing of Consequence that Brian O Rourke, herein England, should be secured, as (fn. 2) conceiving him to be a dangerous Person in this Time of Rebellion in Ireland, if he should escape: That the whole Province of Munster is yet quiet: And lastly, his Lordship ended with a Protestation of his Faith and Loyalty to the Crown of England, which he bears, and will die in the same, and will employ all his Strength and Endeavours to assist the King for the Suppression of the Rebels."

Ld. Chamberlain to answer.

Hereupon the Lord Chamberlain was commanded by this House to let the Earl of St. Albanes know, That this House is satisfied with his Loyalty and Faith to the Crown of England; and to return him Thanks for the same, and his Care in assisting the Suppression of the Rebels: And this House further thinks it fit he should have a Troop of Horse in Ireland.

E. of St. Albans's Letter to be communicated to the H. C.

The Lord Chamberlain also was appointed to communicate the Earl of St. Albane's Letter to the House of Commons; and to let them know, that this House hath sent his Lordship Thanks.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Gilbert Gherrard, Baronet:

Message from the H. C. for a Conference.

To desire a present Conference, by a Committee of both Houses:

1. Touching the Bill concerning the securing of the Papists.

2. Concerning an Ordinance of Parliament, for securing the Money borrowed of the City of London.

The Answer returned was:


That this House will give a present Meeting, as is desired, in the Painted Chamber.

Conference reported.

Then this House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, the House was resumed; and the Lord Keeper reported, "That, at this Conference, the House of Commons had sent up to their Lordships the Bill for securing of the Persons of Recusants, with some Amendments; and also presented an Ordinance of Parliament, to secure Fifty Thousand Pounds borrowed now of the City of London for the Occasions of Ireland, and Fifty Thousand Pounds lent to the Peers, sent from the Great Council at Yorke, the Beginning of this Parliament."



Dominus Custos Magni Sigilli declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in diem Martis, videlicet, 30m diem instantis Novembris, hora 12a, Dominis sic decernentibus.


  • 1. Deest in Originali.
  • 2. Origin. conceived.