House of Lords Journal Volume 5: 21 September 1642

Pages 365-366

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 5, 1642-1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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DIE Mercurii, videlicet, 21 die Septembris.


The Lord Grey of Warke was appointed to be Speaker this Day.

Sir Thomas Dawes's Bill.

Hodie 1a vice lecta est, An Act for the better Payment of several Sums of Money therein specified, by and out of the Estate of Sir Tho. Dawes, Knight, and John Dawes, Gentleman, Two of the Sons of Sir Abra. Dawes, Knight, deceased.

Harlackenden and Culpepper to go to Holland.

Ordered, That Tho. Harlackenden and Tho. Culpeper, Two Scholars in Oxford, and Abraham Wood, their Tutor, shall have Liberty to pass the Seas into Holland.

Scott Leave to go to France.

Ordered, That Tho. Scott, of Aylesford, in the County of Kent, Gentleman, shall have Leave to travel into France, with a Servant, and a Trunk of Wearing Apparel.

Instructions for Sussex.

The Instructions for the County of Sussex, brought up formerly from the House of Commons, were read, and approved of. (Here enter them.)

Countess of Rivers, an Order for her Security.

The House being informed, "That the Countess of Rivers is now come into this Town, for her Safety: Therefore she desired an Order of this House, for her Security:"

Which was accordingly Ordered.

Betton to be examined about a Riot.

The Petition of Ric'd Betton, of London, Merchant, being apprehended by this House for Suspicion of a Riot, and no Charge against him; it is Ordered, That the Business shall be referred to the Lord Chief (fn. 1) Justice of the King's Bench, who is to examine the Business, and certify the same to this House; in the mean (fn. 1) Time, he shall go upon Bail.

E. of Carlisle Leave to go into the Country, to secure his House there.

The House was informed, "That the People in the Country do threaten to pull down the Earl of Carlile's House: His Desire is, That their Lordships would please to give him Leave to go down himself, to give them Satisfaction; and his Lordship will return upon Friday next."

Which this House Ordered accordingly.

Message from the H. C. with a Petition for the Lord General to present to the King.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Harley:

That the House of Commons have conceived a Petition, wherein they desire their Lordships Concurrence; and that the Lord General may present the same to His Majesty.

The said Petition was read, in hæc verba; and, after a mature Deliberation, (Here enter it.)

Agreed to;

Resolved, upon the Question, nemine contradicenie, That this House agrees with the House of Commons, that this Petition shall be sent to the Lord General, to be presented to the King, from both Houses of Parliament.

and to sit a while.

2. The House of Commons desires their Lordships to sit a while, having some Business of Importance to acquaint their Lordships withall.

Agreed, To sit a while.

The Answer returned by the Messengers was:


That this House agrees to the Petition to be sent to the Lord General, to be presented to His Majesty; and that this House will sit a while, as is desired.

Message from the H. C. for Concurrence in Two Orders.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Wheeler:

To desire their Lordships Concurrence in these Orders following:

1. An Order for removing Sir Jo. Gayer and Sir Jo. Garrett out of the Militia; and the Lord Mayor and the Sheriffs for the Time being to be put in their Places. (Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

2. An Order that the Committees for taking Accompt of the Collectors for Subscriptions of Plate, Horse, and Money, shall have Power to send for what Records, Papers, Parties, and Witnesses, they please. (Here enter it.)


The Answer returned was:


That this House agrees with the House of Commons in these Two Orders.

Capt. Gilmore, Savage, and Ley, Petition for their Enlargement.

The Petition of Captain Charles Gilmore, James Savage, Edw. Ley, Prisoners in Newgate, was read; desiring, "That they may be released, or some Maintenance may be allowed them."

Ordered, To send to the House of Commons, to let them know, that this House thinks it fit the Prisoners be released, upon Security given not to repair into Ireland, unless the House of Commons knows Cause for their longer Restraint; which if they do, it is the Desire of the Lords that some Course may be taken for their Relief, to keep them from starving in Prison.

Message to the H. C. about them.

Ordered, That Dr. Aylett and Dr. Heath do go with the aforesaid Petition and Message, to the House of Commons.

Lord Dacres will attend the House.

The Earl of Holland acquainted this House, "That the Lord Dacres, according (fn. 2) to their Lordships Order, came to Town, to give his Attendance on this House; but, last Night, a Feverish Disposition came upon him, else he had come this Day to this House; but he desires he may have Leave for Four or Five Days to be absent, to recover his Health, and then he will come and perform his Service to this House."

Which Desire this House granted.

Message from H. C. with Instructions for the Lord General.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Harley; who brought up Instructions to be given to the Lord General, which have passed the House of Commons; and they desire their Lordships Concurrence therein.

The said Instructions were read, in hæc verba. (Here enter them.)

"In the Article, wherein certain are named which are to (fn. 2) be excepted, these Lords following are to be added: videlicet,

"The Duke of Richmond, L. Visc. Falkland, One of the Principal Secretaries to His Majesty."
E. (fn. 3) Carnarvon,
L. Visc. Newarke,

Ordered, That this House agrees with the House of Commons, in the Approbation of these Instructions, with the adding of the abovesaid Lords to those that are to be excepted.

The Answer returned was:


That this House will send an Answer, by Messengers of their own.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Dr. Aylett and Dr. Heath:

Message to the H. C. about them.

To let them know, that this House agrees with the House of Commons in the Instructions, with the Addition of the Lords Names which are to be excepted.

Countess Newport Leave to take some Furniture of her Husband's out of The Tower.

Ordered, That the Countess of Newport shall have Liberty to fetch out of The Tower a Bed and a Suit of Hangings, such as she shall make Choice of, for her own Use, being the Earl of Newport's Goods, which he carried into The Tower when he was Constable.

Committee for Collections to send for Persons, Papers, &c.

"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That the Committee of the Lords and Commons, appointed to receive an Accompt, of such as are appointed Collectors and Receivers, of the Monies that come in upon the Propositions, shall have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, Papers, and Records."

Lord Mayor and Sheriffs to be added to the Committee for the Militia.

"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That, instead of Sir John Gayre and Sir Jacob Garrett, the Lord Mayor and Sheriffs of London for the Time being shall be added to the Committee for Ordering the Militia of the City of London; and that the said Committee, or any Nine or more of them (whereof Three of them at least to be Aldermen), shall proceed in the Execution of the said Ordinance to all Intents and Purposes, from Time to Time, as shall be needful."


  • 1. Deest in Originali.
  • 2. Deest in Originali.
  • 3. Origin. Narnarvon.