House of Lords Journal Volume 5: 15 November 1642

Pages 446-447

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 5, 1642-1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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DIE Martis, videlicet, 15 die Novembris.


Lord Grey, Speaker.

Message from the H. C. with a Declaration concerning the Illegality of the Commission of Array.

A Message was brought up from the House of Commons, by Mr. Samuell Browne:

To desire their Lordships Concurrence in a Declaration concerning the Illegality of the Commission of Array.

The Answer returned was:


That this House will send an Answer, by Messengers of their own.

Message from the H. C. for a Conference about the Affairs of the Kingdom.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Christopher Yelverton, Knight and Baronet:

To desire a present Conference, if it may stand with their Lordships Conveniency, touching the great Affairs of the Kingdom.

The Answer returned was:


That this House will give a present Conference, in the Painted Chamber, as is desired.

Garnier, apprehended by the City Watch, his Petition to be released.

Upon reading the Petition of Jean Garnier, Groom of Her Majesty's Privy Chamber, now a Prisoner in The Compter of Woodstreate, being apprehended by the City Watch, and carried before the Committee at Guildhall, who had not Time to examine him, and no Fact laid to his Charge, desired to be released: Hereupon this House Ordered, That the Lord Feilding shall send to the Lord Mayor, to know the Cause of this Person's Commitment; and then this House will give further Directions therein.

House adjourned during (fn. 1) Pleasure.

House resumed.

The Speaker reported the Effect of the Conference, as followeth:

Conference reported.

"The House of Commons desires their Lordships Concurrence in these Particulars following:

"1. The Resolutions concerning the raising of One Thousand Light Horse and Three Thousand Dragoons."

Agreed to.

4000 Horse to be raised in London.

"Resolved, upon the Question,

"That this House doth accept of this Offer of the Citizens, of raising One Thousand Light Horse and Three Thousand Dragooners, to be under the Command of both the Houses of Parliament, or under the Command of the Earl of Essex the Lord General alone; and that, in their Proceedings, they shall not be countermanded, or called to an Account, by any but the Lord General the Earl of Essex, by the Advice of both Houses of Parliament."

Agreed to.

Serjeant Major General Skippon to command them, under the E. of Essex.

"Resolved, &c.

"That Serjeant Major General Skippon be recommended, under the Lord General the Earl of Essex, to command these Horse and Dragoons in chief, under the Lord General."

Agreed to.

Col. Hurrey to be next in Command.

"Resolved, &c.

"That Colonel Hurrey be recommended to the Lord General the Earl of Essex, to have Command of those Forces of Light Horse and Dragoons, in the next Place under Serjeant Major General Skippon."

Agreed to.

The Horses that are seized in London and the Suburbs, to be employed in this Service.

"Resolved, &c.

"That these Citizens, that make this Offer of raising One Thousand Light Horse, and Three Thousand Dragooners, shall make Use of those Horse seized, and to be seized (excepting the Horses, Mares, and Geldings, and the Furniture thereunto belonging, to the Members and Assistants of both Houses of Parliament not being Delinquents), by virtue of any Order or Ordinance of both or either House of Parliament, to be employed in this Service of the Commonwealth."

Agreed to.

Voluntiers from the several Counties to serve in this Corps.

"Resolved, &c.

"That these Citizens, that offer to raise the Four Thousand Horse, or more, shall have Liberty to make Choice (with the Consent of the Earl of Warwick) of Men, to man those Horse, out of those Men that are come up Voluntiers out of the several Counties."

Agreed to.

Judge Berkley to sit in the King's Bench.

"Ordered, That Judge Berkley shall sit in the Court of King's Bench, for Dispatch of the Business there."

Agreed to.

Free Intercourse between England and Scotland.

Ordered, That all the Intercourse shall be open between the Two Kingdoms of England and Scotland.

Agreed to.

Order for all Officers and Soldiers in the E. of Essex's Army to repair to their Colours.

"Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament, That all Officers and Soldiers belonging to the Army under the Command of the Earl of Essex, shall, within Two Hours after Publication of this Order, repair to their Colours, and there abide, upon Pain of Death; and all Officers within the Cities of London and Westminster, and the Suburbs and adjacent Parts thereof, shall apprehend, and send to the Lord General, all such Officers and Soldiers as they shall find within their several Precincts; and in case they be negligent herein, or that any Persons, after the Publication of this Order, shall harbour or entertain any Officers or Soldiers of the said Army, they shall receive such severe Punishment as their Offences shall demerit."

Agreed to.

Order for Dragoons to be sent into Kent, and Chatham to be secured.

"It is humbly desired, that Major Hurrey may go forth this very Night, with the Dragooners which my Lord of Essex and my Lord of Warwick now have, and are not useful to them; and that they may march into Kent forthwith; and that Major Skippon, may have Commission to follow with the rest instantly; and that Chattam may have Forces sent down to it speedily."

Ordered, To be recommended to the Lord General's Care.

Commissaries to value Horses, &c. that are seized for the Public Service.

"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons, That Maximilian Bard, Wm. Dodson, Nicholas Alvy, Robert Norwood, John Styles, William Booth, Thomas Mason, William Barton, Mr. Williamson, Thomas Flanner, Thomas Browne, Richard Overton, Geo. Day, John Hinde, Daniell Waldo, Walter Story, and Mr. Harsnett, shall be Commissaries, for the prizing and valuing of Horses, Bridles, and Saddles; and that they, and every of them, and all such other Persons as shall be nominated and appointed by them, or any of them, shall have Power, and are hereby required and commanded, to search for, seize, and take, in all Places within the City of London and Five Miles thereof, all Horses, Geldings, and Mares, not already listed under the Command of his Excellency the Earl of Essex, or by Directions from the Committee for the Militia of London (excepting the Horses, Mares, and Geldings, and the Furniture thereunto belonging, of the Members and Assistants of both Houses of Parliament, not being Delinquents); and, after such Seizure, the Horses, Geldings, and Mares, so seized, shall be priced and valued by the said Commissaries, or any Two of them; and then they, and their Prices and Valuations, and the Names of the Owners thereof, shall be entered and inrolled in a Book, to be kept by the Commissaries, or some of them; and a Transcript thereof shall be delivered, by the said Commissaries, under the Hands of them, or any Four of them, unto the Committee appointed to consider how a Body of Horse may be raised, to the End that that Committee, who are hereby authorized to meet at what Times and Places they please, may present the same Transcript to the House of Commons, that thereupon such Persons as shall be thought fit to receive Recompence for the Horses, Geldings, and Mares, so to be seized as aforesaid, may have the Public Faith for the Prices thereof, with Interest; and that none of the said Horses, Geldings, and Mares, shall be discharged without Warrant from Five or more of the said Committee, who may discharge such as they shall find Cause to be discharged; and the said Commissaries, and every of them, are to deliver the said Horses, Geldings, and Mares, (fn. 2) to such Persons as, by Warrant from his Excellency the Earl of Essex, under his Hand, shall be appointed to receive the same; and Captain Long, Sir Francis Knollis, Mr. Vassall, Sir John Corbett, and Mr. Rigby, Five of the said Committee, are required to see the Premises executed with all Speed."

Agreed to.

Maximilian Bard released, at the Request of the H. C.

"It was mentioned by the House of Commons, That they understand that Maximilian Bard, One of the Commissaries, is under a Restraint of their Lordships; and because he is a Man so useful for this Employment, that (fn. 3) they know not what to do without him, therefore they do recommend him to their Lordships."

Ordered, That the said Maximilian shall be released from his present Imprisonment.

Post meridiem.


Earl Warwicke, Speaker.


House adjourned till 10a cras.


  • 1. Origin. please.
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  • 3. Deest in Originali.