House of Lords Journal Volume 5: 22 November 1642

Pages 453-454

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 5, 1642-1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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DIE Martis, videlicet, 22 die Novembris.


The Lord Grey de Warke, Speaker.

Messenger who brought the King's Reply dismissed.

It was moved, "That Mr. Wm. Murrey, that brought the last Message from the King, stays still for an Answer;" and because it is uncertain how long it may be are that the Answer be ready, this House Ordered, That the said Mr. Murrey be discharged for his further Attendance; and that the Speaker write a Letter to the Lord Viscount Falkland, to acquaint him with it.

Lady Villiers's Petition, that the building of the House that overlooks her goes on.

Delinquents sent for.

Upon reading the Petition of the Lady Villiers; complaining, "That Edward Bromfeild and John Ranes have persisted in working upon the Building mentioned in the Order of the 7th of October last, to the great Prejudice and Damage of your Petitioner, albeit they had Notice of the said Order:" Hereupon this House Ordered, That the said Bromfeld and Ranes shall be sent for as Delinquents, to answer the said Contempt.

Letter to L. Falkland, that the Messenger who brought the King's Reply is dismissed.

"My Lord,

"Both Houses of Parliament being in Deliberation, what Resolution to return unto His Majesty, which will take up some Time; they have therefore thought it fit to send back this Bearer, Mr. Wm. Murrey, purposing to address an express Messenger unto His Majesty. Thus, my Lord, I rest,

"Your affectionate Servant."

Earls of Bath and Westmoreland to take the Air in Sedans.

Ordered, That One of the Servants of the Earls of Bathon and Westm. shall have Liberty to go abroad, to buy them Meat, and such other Provisions, for their necessary (fn. 1) Sustenance; and that the said Earls may go abroad in their Sedans instead of their Coaches.


House adjourn till 4a post meridiem.

Post meridiem.


Lord Grey de Warke, Speaker.

E. of Warwick offers to resign his Commission as General here, it being useless now the E. of Essex is come up with his Army.

The Earl of Warwicke signified to this House, "That, as both Houses were pleased to appoint him to be Captain General of these Parts, in the Absence of the Earl of Essex, who being now in these Parts, and there being now no Need of another Army, his Excellency being come with his Army to guard these Parts; and considering the great Charge that this Army will require to raise and maintain it; his Lordship offers the Resignation to both Houses of his Commission."

The House, taking this Respect of the Earl of Warwicke very well, Resolved, To communicate this Motion of his Lordship's to the House of Commons; and thought it fit that the Earl of Warwicke should have Thanks, from both Houses, for his willing Acceptance of it, and his Care that he hath taken hitherto in that Place.

Message to the H. C. for a Conference about it.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Rich and Mr. Page:

To desire a present Conference, in the Painted Chamber, touching the Earl of Warwicke, Captain General of the South Parts of this Kingdom.

The Earl of Warwicke is to express himself at this Conference.

Message from thence, for a Conference about the King's Reply.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by the Lord Grey of Groby:

To desire a present Conference, touching an Answer to the King's last Reply.

Answer given was:


That this House will give a present Conference, as is desired.

Murrey the Messenger, a Pass.

Ordered, That Mr. Wm. Murrey, that brought the King's Reply, shall have a Pass, to go through the Army, without any Interruption or Stay.

The Messengers return with this Answer:

Answer from the H. C.

That the House of Commons will give a present Meeting, as is desired.

House adjourned during Pleasure; went to the Conference.

House resumed.

It being now late, it was moved, "That this Report might be made To-morrow Morning, at Nine of the Clock."


House adjourned till nona cras.


  • 1. Origin. sustained.