House of Lords Journal Volume 6: 16 April 1644

DIE Martis; 16 die Aprilis.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Walker.

Lords present this Day:

Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.

Answer from the H. C.

Sir Edward Leech and Sir Rob't Rich, sent Yesterday to the House of Commons with a Message, return with this Answer:

That they will send an Answer, by Messengers [ (fn. 1) of their own,] concerning the Petition concerning the releasing of the Ships that are to go to The East Indias.

Report of the Conference on the Ordinance for referring the Propositions for a Peace to the Committee of the Two Kingdoms.

The Speaker reported the Effect of the Conference with the House of Commons Yesterday; which was, That they have considered of the Ordinance sent down to them from their Lordships, concerning the referring the preparing of Propositions for Peace; and they have made some Alterations therein, wherein they desire their Lordships Concurrence."

The Alterations were read; and this House agreed to the said Ordinance with the Alterations:

"Be it Ordained, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That the Committee of both Kingdoms be hereby enabled to prepare Propositions for a safe and well-grounded Peace, the same to be brought into One or both Houses on Friday come Sevennight, the 26th of April, 1644, or sooner if it may be, sitting the Houses, to be reviewed and considered of; and then, by the mutual Advice and Consent of both Kingdoms, to be perfected: Provided always, That the Power given unto the said Committee by this Ordinance shall continue no longer than during the Time herein limited for the bringing in of the said Propositions."

The House to sit but Three Days in a Week.

Ordered, That this House shall propound to the House of Commons, that the Houses may sit but Three Days in a Week, such as the House shall agree upon, during the Transaction of setting forth the Armies, and other great Businesses now in Agitation; the other Days to be spent in Committees for the Public Affairs.

Message to the H. C. about it, and about the Ordinance for referring the Propositions for a Peace to the Committee of the Two Kingdoms;

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Rich and Mr. Page:

To let them know, that this House agrees to the Ordinance, with the Alterations concerning referring the preparing the Grounds of Peace to the Committee of both Kingdoms; and to desire that the Houses (fn. 2) may sit but Three Days in a Week during the great Affairs now in Agitation; and the other Three Days to be spent by Committees in the Business of the Armies, and other Matters concerning the Public.

that the Lords agree to Two Ordinances brought up;

3. To let them know, that this House agrees to the Ordinance concerning the Lord Peter's Woods.

4. That this House agrees to the Ordinance concerning cutting of Delinquents Woods, with the Exceptions.

and concerning Sutton's Hospital.

5. To deliver to them the Paper concerning Sutton's Hospitall.

Archbishop of Cant's Trial.

Next, the House proceeded upon the Trial of the Archbishop of Canterbury, upon the Fifth and Sixth Articles of the First Charge, and the Ninth Article of the additional Articles.

Ordered, That the Archbishop of Canterb. shall make his Answer to the Evidence this Afternoon, at Four of the Clock.

Answer from the H. C.

The Messengers sent to the House of Commons return with this Answer:

That they agree to sit but Three Days in a Week, for the better intending of Public Affairs.

That (fn. 3) they agree to the Ordinance for cutting Delinquents Woods, with the Alterations. (Here enter it.)

Concerning the Paper touching Sutton's Hospitall, they will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Message from thence, about the Days that the Houses are to sit.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Pye Knight, and others:

To let their Lordships know, that they appointed their House to sit Mondays, Wednesdays, and Saturdays; and desire their Lordships would please to sit those Days likewise.

Agreed to.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That their Lordships agree to sit Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays.

An Ordinance for felling of Timber Trees, in the Woods of several Delinquents, for the Use of His Majesty's Navy Royal.

Ordinance for cutting Timber for the Navy, on Delinquents Estates.

The Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, having, out of their especial Care for the Preservation of Timber Trees, excepted them out of the late Ordinance of Parliament, dated the last past, for the felling and putting to Sale the Woods of all Delinquents, sequestered by the said Ordinance, for the Use of the Commonwealth; yet, being informed of the great and pressing Wants of Timber, for the Supply and Use of His Majesty's Navy Royal, without which there can be no Fleet put to Sea, for the Defence of the Kingdom: It is Ordered, by the said Lords and Commons, That it shall and may be lawful for Peter Pett and Henry Goddard, Master Shipwrights to His Majesty's Navy Royal, and Robert Clement Husband of the said Navy, and Peter Pett Junior, or any Two of them, with the Allowance and Approbation of Sir Thomas Barrington, Sir William Masham, Henry Barrington Esquire, Sir Thomas Honnywood, Richard Harlackendon, Sir Peter Wroth, Sir Thomas Walsingham, Richard Whitehead, Richard Norton, William Jepson, Augusten Skinner, Richard Lee, and Thomas Blunt, Esquires, to enter into certain Coppices, Woods, and Springs, in the Counties of Kent and Essex, belonging unto William Laude Archbishop of Canterbury, and Dean and Church of Canterbury, the Earl of Worcester, the Lord Lumley, Poynes, Cotten, Esquires, Sir Edward Pleydon, Sir George Sands, Sir Henry Spiller, Sir John Lucas, Sir Henry Audley, Sir Francis Mannocke, Knights, and Nash of Marden Esquire, who, for their Delinquencies, by several former Ordinances of Parliament, have had their Lands, Rents, and Goods sequestered for the Use of the State; and the said Peter Pett, Henry Goddard, and Robert Clement, or any Two of them, with the Approbation and Consent of Sir Thomas Barrington, Sir William Masham, Sir Thomas Honywood, Henry Barrington, Rich'd Harlackendon, Esquires, Sir Peter Wroth, Sir Thomas Walsingham, Richard Whitehead, Richard Norton, William Jephson, Augusten Skinner, Richard Lee, and Thomas Blunt, Esquires, or any Two of them, shall have Power, and are hereby required, to mark out, fell, cut, and carry away, or cause to be cut and carried away, all such Trees of Oak, Elm, and Ash, within the several Woods, Coppices, and Springs, of the said several Persons, according to the Numbers, Quantities, and Qualities, as are hereafter mentioned, or so many thereof as the said Peter Pett, Henry Goddard, and Robert Clement, shall find necessary for Supply of the present Stores of Timber, for the Use of His Majesty's Navy: And it is further Ordered, That an Accompt shall be carefully kept, between Sir Thomas Barrington, Sir William Masham, Henry Barrington Esquire, Sir Thomas Honywood, Rich'd Harlackendon Esquire, Sir Peter Wroth, Sir Thomas Walsingham, Richard Whitehead, Richard Norton, William Jephson, Augustin Skinner, Richard Lee, and Thomas Blunt, Esquires, or any Two of them, and the said Master Shipwrights and Husband of the Navy, and delivered to the Committee of the Navy, of all such Trees and Timber as shall, by virtue of this Ordinance, be felled, and converted to the Uses aforesaid: And lastly it is Ordered, That the Bark, Shrowds, and other Woods, coming out of the said Trees, shall be sold for the best Advantage, towards the Payment of the Charges of the felling, squaring, and Carriage of the said Trees.

In the Woods of Sir John Lucas, Knight, lying in Greenesteed and Mile-end, within the Liberty of Colechester, in the County of Essex, Four Hundred Trees of Oak.

In the Woods of Sir Henry Audley Knight, lying in the Parish of Beare Church, and Lady De la Hay near Colechester, in the County of Essex, Three Hundred Trees of Oak.

In the Woods of Sir Francis Mannocke Knight, lying in Ardly Parish, near Colchester, in the County of Essex, Three Hundred Trees of Oak.

In the Woods belonging to the Archbishop of Canterbury, and the Dean and Church of Canterbury, situate near Canterbury, Four Hundred Trees of Oak and Elm.

Out of the Woods of Mr. Nash of Marden, of Oak Timber, lying ready at the Water-side, fit for Four Inch and Three Inch Plank, and Wall-pieces, about Eighty Trees, containing by Estimation One Hundred and Forty Loads, lying there for the Market of London.

"In the Woods belonging unto the Earl of Worcester, the Lord Lumley, Mr. Poynes, Mr. Cotten, and Sir Edward Ployden Knight, situate and lying upon the Confines of the County of Sussex and Hantshire, near Portsmouth, the Number of One Thousand Trees, of Oak, Ash, and Elm, for Supply of His Majesty's Navy Royal.

"In the Woods of Sir George Sands Knight, near Feversham in Kent, Three Hundred Trees of Oak.

"In the Woods of Sir Henry Spiller Knight, situate in or near Newenham in Kent, Two Hundred Trees of Oak."

Adjourn.

House adjourned till 4 ^a post meridiem.

Post meridiem.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Walker.

Lords present this Afternoon:

Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.

Abp. of Cant's Trial.

The House next heard what Answer the Archbishop of Canterbury made to the Evidence against him this Morning.

And the Committee of the House of Commons made their Reply thereunto.

Ordered, That the further Proceeding against the Archbishop of Cant. shall be on Monday next.

Adjourn.

House adjourned till 9 ^a cras.