House of Lords Journal Volume 6: 17 April 1644

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Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 6, 1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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DIE Mercurii, 17 die Aprilis.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Walker.

Lords present this Day:

Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.

Comes Kent.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Bolingbrooke.
Comes Lyncolne.
Comes Stamford.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Nottingham.
L. General.
L. Admiral.
Comes Northumb.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Bruce.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Hunsdon.

Serjeant Whitfield, Leave to be absent.

Ordered, That Mr. Serjeant Whitfield have Leave to be absent from attending this House for Four or Five Days.

Message from the H. C. with an Ordinance about Hertfordshire.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Pye Knight, and others;

To desire their Lordships Concurrence in these Particulars:

1. An Ordinance concerning Hertfordshire, which they desire Expedition in, because some Regiments of that County are to march speedily to the Rendezvous.

(Here enter it.)

Read, and Agreed to.

about sending Agents to Sweden;

2. A Vote made by the House of Commons: videlicet,

"That there be some Persons in Nature of Agents from both Kingdoms sent, with all convenient Speed, to the Swedes, with Instructions to maintain a good Correspondency with that Crown, and such as may be an Occasion of a nearer Alliance with the same."

Agreed to.

to expedite the Ordinance concerning Gloucester;

3. To desire Expedition in the Ordinance concerning Gloucester.

and with Letters from Hull.

4. To deliver to their Lordships some Letters received from Hull, from Mr. Henry Darley, and a Letter from Sir Tho. Fairefaix to Mr. White, concerning the good Success of the Lord Fairefaxe's Forces at Selby.

The Answer returned was:


This House agrees in the Ordinance and the Vote now brought up; and concerning the Ordinance concerning Gloucester, they will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Complaint against Colonel Carne, Deputy Governor of the Isle of Wight.

The Earl of Pembrooke informed this House, "That there is a Complaint of the House of Commons, of Colonel Carne, Deputy Governor of the Isle of Wight; and because there is no Determination of the Business, the Isle of Wight is in great Danger, by reason of Wareham lately taken; and the Place being of such great Consequence to the Kingdom, that unless the said Colonel Carne be either 'quitted, or receive his Reward if guilty, his Lordship dares not be answerable for the Safety of that Isle."

Message to the H. C. about it.

Hereupon a Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Serjeant Whitfield and Dr. Aylett:

To let them know what the Earl of Pembrooke informed the House this Day; and to desire them that there may be an Examination and a Resolution of this Business speedily.

Message from thence, with Orders.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Harley Knight;

To desire their Lordships Concurrence in these Particulars following:

1. An Order to borrow One Thousand Pounds of Sutton's Hospitall, for Three Months, for the Use of the Lord General's Army.

2. An Order to pay Monies to Captain Lidcott and Captain Vivers, out of the Sequestration-monies.

Read, and not Agreed to.

Ordinance to borrow 1000 l. of Sutton's Hospital.

The Ordinance concerning the Thousand Pounds of Sutton's Hospitall was read; and this House thought it fit that the Governors of the said Hospital should be treated withall, for the Loan of the said Thousand Pounds: And it is Ordered, That (fn. 1) Mr. Garrett the Governor have Notice, to give Warning to the Governors, to meet To-morrow Morning, at Eight of the Clock, at Sir Randall Crewe's House in Westm. to consider of the same.

The Answer returned was:

Answer to the H. C.

That this House will send an Answer, by Messengers of their own, to this Message.

L. General's Forces to march to the Rendezvous.

The Lord Wharton reported from the Committee of both Kingdoms, "That the said Committee hath Ordered, That such of the Lord General's Forces as are ready, and can be provided with Money, do march to the Rendezvous appointed."

Ordinance for giving Authority to the Commissioners of the Navy, in the L. Admiral's Absence.

The Lord Admiral presented to this House an Ordinance concerning further Power to be given to the Officers of the Navy, to proceed in the managing of Navy Affairs in his Lordship's Absence, when he is at Sea.

This Ordinance was read Twice, and committed to these Lords following:

L. Admiral.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Lyncolne.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Bolingbrooke.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Bruce.
Any Two, to meet this Afternoon, at Three a Clock, and afterwards when they please.

Ordinance for excluding Members who have deserted the Houses.

Next, the Ordinance for the excluding of the Members of either House of Parliament, and the not re-admitting them without the Consent of both Houses, was read again, with the Alterations brought from the House of Commons.

And, to debate the same, the House was adjourned into a Committee during Pleasure.

The House being resumed;

It was referred to a Committee of the whole House, and there it rests.

Pass for the Resident of Venice.

Ordered, That the Pass for the Resident of the State of Venice shall be renewed, to give him Leave to take the Air, within Five Miles of London, with his Coach and Horses.

Message from the H. C. to sit a while.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Henry Mildmay:

To desire their Lordships would please to sit a while, for they have some Business to bring up to them.

The Answer returned was:

That their Lordships will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.


A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Edward Leech and Dr. Aylett:

To let them know, That this House will sit at Two of the Clock this Afternoon precisely.

Sir Thomas Fairfax's Letter, giving an Account of his taking Selby, and making all the King's Forces in it Prisoners.


"I have a little Time to relate to you a great Mercy God hath bestowed upon us, in giving us a Victory at Selby, where we forced the Town, in which was Fifteen Hundred Horse and Eighteen Hundred Foot, commanded in Chief by Colonel Bellasis; in Two Hours we took it, and all of them either taken or slain, our Men doing Execution upon them in the Pursuit for many Miles: We took almost One Hundred Officers, amongst whom is Colonel Ramsdan. This Blow hath made us Masters of the Field in Yorkeshire; God grant we may maintain it. Nothing can hinder us to Tees-side. Our Soldiers are in great Want; and I do desire you to send the Three Thousand Pounds in your Hands down to Hull, with what Speed and Safety you can possible. Sir, here is not Paper enough in the Town to Write in a Sheet, nor Time enough to write at Length in this; so, desiring your Pardon for my Brevity, I rest

Selby, 12 April, 1644.

"Your most assured

"Friend and Servant,

"Tho. Fairefax.

"For my Honoured Friend

"Mr. White."

"A List of the Prisoners taken this 11th of April, 1644.

List of the Officers made Prisoners at Selby.

Colonel John Belasis.
Colonel Sir John Ramsden.
Sir Tho. Strickland.
Lieutenant Colonel Tyndall.
Lieutenant Colonel Forbis.
Major Heskitt.
Major Wentworth.
Major Rogers.
Major Sadlington.
Major Rogers.
Captain Horsfeild de Horse.
Captain Bev'sham.
Captain Washington.
Captain Grimston.
Captain Cholmely.
Captain Scudamore de Foote.
Captain Woulverston.
Captain Normavile.
Captain Moritt.
Captain Warton.
Captain Staveley.
Captain Turner.
Captain Skeldon.
Captain Briggs.
Captain Waterhouse.
Captain Kirke.
Captain Hardcastle.
Captain Litster.
Captain Nevill.
Captain Conyers.
Captain Lieutenant Salvin.
Captain Lieutenant Conyers.
Lieutenant Jefferson.
Lieutenant Rickabie.
Lieutenant Bishopp.
Lieutenant Keighley.
Lieutenant Graye.
Lieutenant Wreight.
Lieutenant Grin.
Lieutenant Ridman.
Lieutenant Vincent.
Lieutenant Pearson.
Lieutenant Fittz-James.
Lieutenant Moore.
Lieutenant Waineman.
Lieutenant Evins.
Lieutenant Norton.
Lieutenant Duffeild.
Lieutenant Turner.
Lieutenant Croe.
Lieutenant Fowler.
Lieutenant Geeres.
Lieutenant Carter.
Lieutenant Jackson.
Lieutenant Skipwith.
Lieutenant Duckitt.
Lieutenant Harper.
Richard Laidlawe, Provost Marshal.
Elias Walker, Clerk of the Store.
Cornet Dicks.
Cornet Spurgon.
Cornet Smith.
Cornet Barbiner.
Cornet Hutton.
Cornet Thompson.
Ensign Hewith.
Ensign Cowlinge.
Ensign Middleton.
Ensign Laton.
Ensign Ramsden.
Ensign Todd.
Ensign Jackson.
Ensign Conyers.
Ensign North.
Ensign Hapletine.
Quarter-master Wadmorth.
Quarter-master Jackson.
Quarter-master Dimkin.
Quarter-master Hall.
Quarter-master Thomlinson.
Quarter-master Spencer.
Quarter-master Walton.
Quarter-master Burton.
Quarter-master Slater.

"Serjeants, Drums, Trumpets, and Corporals, Officers divers slain, and lyes strewed in the Way to Yorke, for Four Miles; others that fled to Pontfract, we pursued to Ferry-Bridge.

"Four Brass Pieces of Ordnance.
"Seven Barrels of Powder.
"Sixteen Bundles of Match.
"Two Thousand Arms.
"Two Thousand Prisoners.

"Many Horse and Foot Colours taken; but as yet Sixteen or Seventeen come in.

Ordinance for the Continuance of the Power of the Committee at Hertford.

"It is Ordered, Declared, and Ordained, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, for divers weighty Reasons and Considerations them moving, That the former Ordinance made in December last, for a further Addition of Power to the Committee for the County of Hertford, enabling them to raise and maintain Forces, for the Defence and Preservation of the said County, shall be, and is hereby continued, and to be of Force and Effect, to the Intents and Purposes therein mentioned, for the Space of Four Months longer, unless both Houses of Parliament shall give other Order therein."


House adjourned till 2 a post meridiem.

Post meridiem.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Walker.

Lords present:

Ds. Gray de Warke, Speaker.

L. General.
L. Admiral.
Comes Kent.
Comes Bolingbrooke.
Comes Northumb.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Lyncolne.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Bruce.
Ds. Hunsdon.
Ds. Willoughby.
Ds. Howard.

Cooke to be attached, for challenging Mr. St. John.

Upon Information to this House, by the Earl of Bolingbrooke, "That one Rob't Cooke challenged his Lordship's Son, Mr. Anthony St. Johns, and waylays him to do him a Mischief:" It is Ordered, That the Gentleman Usher attending this House shall take him into his Custody presently, and bring him before this House on Saturday Morning next.

Answer from the H. C.

Mr. Serjeant Whitfield, sent this Morning on a Message to the House of Commons, returned with this Answer:

That they will put Colonel Carne's Business into a speedy Way of Determination.

Ordinance for giving Authority to the Commissioners of the Navy in the Absence of the L. General.

The Lord Admiral reported the Ordinance concerning the Officers of the Navy; and the Committee thinks it fit to pass as it is, without any Alterations.

The said Ordinance was read the Third Time, and Agreed to.

Ordered, To be sent down to the House of Commons, to desire their Concurrence therein.

Message from the H. C. that they will sit To-morrow, P. M.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Pye Knight, and others:

To let their Lordships know, that they finding the Business of the dispatching the Lord General's Army to the Rendezvous to be of great Consequence, they are Resolved to sit To-morrow, at Two of the Clock in the Afternoon; and they refer it to their Lordships Consideration to do therein as their Lordships shall think fit.

The Answer returned was:


That this House intends to sit To-morrow in the Afternoon, at Two of the Clock.

Message from thence, about selling the Surplices at Whitehall, and relieving Lady Essex.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Henry Mildmay, and others:

To let their Lordships know, that the Lady Essex, Wife to Sir W'm Essex, who died in the Service of the Parliament, being in great Want, the House of Commons Ordered that the superstitious Copes and Surplices in the Vestry at Whitehall shall be sold, for the Use and Benefit of the said Lady, and other charitable Uses; but, because of an Order of the Houses that no Goods shall be taken out of the King's Houses, they desire their Lordships Concurrence that the said Copes and Surplices may be sold, to relieve her.

Ordered, That this House thinks it fit the said Surplices and Copes be sold to their true Value; and that the Money be disposed of to such charitable Uses as a Committee of both Houses shall think fit.

The Answer returned was:


That their Lordships will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Ordinance concerning Gloucester.

Next, the Lord Admiral reported, "That the Committee have considered of the Ordinance concerning Gloucester; and they think it fit to pass, with some Amendments;" which were read, and Agreed to.

Message to the H. C. for Concurrence in it, and Two other Ordinances.

A Message was sent down to the House of Commons, by Mr. Serjeant Whitfield and Sir Edw. Leech:

1. To desire Concurrence in the Ordinance concerning the Commissioners of the Navy.

2. To desire Concurrence in the Alterations concerning the Ordinance for Glocester.

3. To desire Concurrence in the Ordinance for making Mr. Reading Register of the Court of Wards.


House adjourned till 2 a cras post meridiem.


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