House of Lords Journal Volume 6: 18 April 1644

Pages 523-524

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 6, 1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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DIE Jovis, 18 die Aprilis, post meridiem.


Domini præsentes fuerunt:

L. General.
Comes Northumb.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Sarum.
L. Admiral.
Comes Lyncolne.
Comes Kent.
Comes Bolingbrooke.
Ds. Hunsdon.
Ds. Willoughby.

Message from the H. C. with Ordinances.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Walter Erle and others;

To desire their Lordships Concurrence in Two Ordinances:

1. An Ordinance for raising Eight Thousand Pounds for the Lord Fairefaix, out of the Sequestrations.

2. An Ordinance for Five Hundred Pounds to be raised, to enable the Train of Artillery to march Tomorrow. (Here enter it.)

Read, and agreed to.

The Ordinance for the Eight Thousand Pounds was read, and Agreed to. (Here enter it.)

The Answer returned was:


That this House (fn. 1) agrees to the Two Ordinances now brought up.

Warders of The Tower relieved from Assessments.

Upon reading the Petition of the Gentleman Porter and the Yeomen Warders of The Tower of London, desiring, "to be released from paying of Assessments and Taxes, which are laid upon (fn. 2) them, they being no Ways able to pay the same, having but Fourteen Pence per Diem allowed them."

Hereupon this House Ordered, That they shall be discharged from the paying of Taxes and Assessments.

Answer from the H. C.

The Messengers sent Yesterday to the House of Commons return with this Answer:

That they will send an Answer by Messengers of their own, to the Three Ordinances: 1. concerning Gloucester; 2. concerning the Navy; 3. concerning the Register's Place in the Court of Wards.

Report of Examinations concerning scandalous Reports of L. Willoughby.

The Lord Hunsdon reported to the House some Examinations, taken by the Committee, concerning the scandalous Reports of the Lord Willoughby; and this House appointed the Earls of Pembrooke, Lyncolne, and Sarum, to enquire and inform themselves of Lyncolneshire Gentlemen as are fit to take this Business into Examination in the Country; and their Lordships to report their Names to this House, who will give further Directions therein: And this House Ordered, That the Lord Willoughbie's Servant, who is imprisoned by Colonel Kinge in Lyncolneshire, shall be released and freed, whereby he may attend his Lordship's Business.

The Earl of Northumb. reported the Answer of the Governors of Sutton's Hospitall, concerning the Thousand Pounds the House of Commons desired to borrow for the Public Service.

Reasons for not borrowing 1000 l. of Sutton's Hospital.

"Whereas the Sum of Fifteen Hundred Pounds was heretofore put into an Iron Chest, to be employed in purchasing of Lands for the Use of the Hospital, in Lieu of other Lands taken away from the House, which said Sum was to remain therein until there were a fit Opportunity of a Purchase; but the Governors of the said Hospital being credibly informed in what Necessity the House was in, in regard that Mr. Clarke the late Receiver was departed thence indebted to the Hospital above the Sum of Two Thousand Pounds, and by reason also that the Tenants do not pay their Rents, to defray the Charges and Expences belonging to the said Hospital, as formerly they had done: Therefore the said Governors, at an Assembly held the 7th Day of March last, Ordered that the Sum of Five Hundred Pounds, Parcel of the said Sum of Fifteen Hundred Pounds, should be forthwith taken out of the said Iron Chest, to be employed for the Use of the said Hospital, which hath accordingly been done; and the said Sum is all expended and disposed of for the Hospital's Use, and the House is now indebted the Sum of Seventy-nine Pounds, Sixteen Shillings, and Six Pence, and there is present Occasion and Use of the Money remaining therein, in regard the Charge of the Maintenance of the Number of the Master, Preacher, Officers, Pensioners, Scholars, and other necessary Servants and Attendants, consisting of Two Hundred Persons, is very great; besides, the Charge of the Maintenance of Four and Twenty Scholars abroad amounts to Four Hundred and Eighty Pounds Yearly, at the usual Allowance of Twenty Pounds apiece.

"All which considered, the said Hospital must of Necessity dissolve, unless the Money remaining in the said Iron Chest may be forthwith used and employed for the Maintenance thereof: That a great Part of the Manors and Lands belonging to the Hospital are situate in the Counties of Wilts, Yorke, and Devon, which Tenants have many of them paid no Rents these Two Years, and the Tenants of other Places abate the Tenth Part, by reason of Taxes imposed upon the Lands."

This being the State of the Condition of Sutton's Hospitall, the House Ordered, To send the Paper to the House of Commons; and to let them know, that their Lordships do not think that they will dissolve the said Hospital, which will be done if the Thousand Pounds should be borrowed.

Message to the H. C. about it.

And accordingly (fn. 3) a Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Edw. Leech and Mr. Page.

Walsingham and Baker.

Ordered, That the Cause between Sir Tho. Walsingham and Sir John Baker shall be heard on Saturday come Sevennight.

Order for 500 l. to enable the Train of Artillery to march.

"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons, That Sir Thomas Soame, Mr. Hoyle, Sir Will'm Masham, Mr. Tate, Mr. Gurden, Mr. Knightly, Sir Robert Pye, Mr. Pury, Sir Martin Lumley, and Colonel Longe, shall have the Fifty Pounds apiece respectively, which they have engaged to advance, to enable the Train of Artillery to march To-morrow, secured and re-paid unto them, out of the Monies that come in at Habberdash'rs Hall, at a Month's End; and that the said Gentlemen do pay their several and respective Fifty Pounds to Sir Walter Earle, Lieutenant of the Ordnance, upon Accompt, who is required to pay the same to Captain Cannon, upon Accompt, to provide Necessaries for the Train of Artillery; and that an Acquittance under the Hand of the Lieutenant of the Ordinance shall be a sufficient Warrant to the said respective Advancers to demand their Monies accordingly."

Order for 8000 l. for Lord Fairfax, out of Sequestrations.

"Whereas the House of Commons, by their Order of the 16th of September last past, did order and appoint, that the several Committees for Sequestrations should cause all such Goods as were sequestered and seized to be sold, for raising the Sum of Eight Thousand Pounds for the Lord Fairefax, which said Sum of Eight Thousand Pounds could not then (nor as yet) be raised, by reason of former Orders of both Houses for Payments preceding the same: The Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled do Order, Ordain, and Appoint, That the Treasurers for Sequestrations at Guildhall, London, do make Payment of the said Sum of Eight Thousand Pounds to William White Esquire, for Supply of the Forces under Command of the said Lord Fairefax, according to a further Order of the said House of Commons, dated the 16th of January last past, concerning the same; provided that no Ordinance already passed, whereby any Sum of Money is payable to our Brethren of Scotland, of the Sequestrations, be prejudiced thereby; and that the Acquittance and Acquittances of the said William White shall be a sufficient Discharge unto the said Treasurers, from Time to Time, for so much thereof as shall be by them paid accordingly."


House adjourned till 9 a , Saturday next.


  • 1. Deest in Originali.
  • 2. Origin. upon.
  • 3. Origin. as.