House of Lords Journal Volume 7: 15 October 1644

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Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 7, 1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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DIE Martis, 15 die Octobris.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Woodcocke.

Ds. North, Speaker this Day.

Comes Kent.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Suffolke.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Denbigh.
Comes Stamford.
Ds. Dacres.
Ds. Willoughby.

Absent Lords excused.

The Earl of Nottingham and the Lord Howard are excused for being absent this Day.

Sir Robert Rich and Mr. Page, sent with a Message Yesterday to the House of Commons, return with this Answer:

Answer from the H. C.

That they agree to the Order concerning Hyde Parke. (Here enter it.) And concerning the Payment of Three Hundred Pounds, and sending Three Hundred Pair of Pistols, to the Regiment of the Earl of Denbigh, they will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Ordinance to proclaim the One for Martial Law.

Next, was read an Ordinance (fn. 1) for the proclaiming the Ordinance concerning Martial Law. (Here enter it.)

Ordinance to sequester Delinquents Estates in Jersey.

Next, the Ordinance for sequestering the Estates of Delinquents, in the Isle of (fn. 2) Jersey, was read Twice, and committed to the Consideration of the Earls of Sarum and Denbigh, and the Lord Viscount Say & Seale, who are to report their Opinions to this House.

Order concerning cutting the Earl of Arundel's Woods, near Arundel Castle.

Upon reading a Letter from the Committee of Sussex, concerning the cutting of the Woods of the Earl of Arundell's, at Arundel Castle: (Here enter the Letter.) It is Ordered, That a Survey be taken of such Woods as are prejudicial to the Safety of the said Castle, by Sir Tho. Pelham, Sir Tho. Parker, Colonel Morley, and Colonel Stapeley; and, upon Certificate thereof to this House, further Directions shall be given; in the mean Time, the former Order is to stand good, and the Committee are to see it obeyed; and if their needs any Woods to repair the said Castle, they are to give Notice to the Servants of the said Earl, who are to see the cutting of such Woods themselves.

E. of Thanet's Fine, for taking off his Sequestration.

The Lord North reported, "That the Committee have treated with the Earl of Thanett, concerning his Fine; and he is willing to give Five Thousand Pounds for taking off his Sequestration from his Estate; which Five Thousand Pounds he will pay presently."

Hereupon this House Ordered, To communicate this to the House of Commons, at a Conference.

Message to the H. C. for a Conference about it, and the King's Plate.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Rich and Mr. Page;

To desire a present Conference, in the Painted Chamber:

1. Concerning the Ordinance touching the King's Plate.

2. Concerning the Earl of Thanett.

The Answer returned was:


That they will give a present Conference, as is desired.

Heads for the Conference.

The Matter of the Conference was to be to this Effect: To let them know, that their Lordships are of Opinion, not to have the King's Plate pawned for so small a Sum; and to offer to them, that the Five Thousand Pounds, which the Earl of Thanett offers to pay presently, for taking off his Sequestration, may be employed for those Affairs, as the Money which should have been raised by the Plate."

The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, the House was resumed.

Ordinance to publish those for Martial Law.

"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That the several Ordinances of the 16th and 29th of August last, for the establishing of a Court Martial, and of the 16th of September last, and 5th and 12th of this Instant October, enlarging the Power of the Commissioners, in such Sort as is therein mentioned; as also such of the Lord General's. Articles of War, touching Officers and Soldiers, whereto the said Ordinance of the 16th of September doth refer, shall be forthwith published, by Sound of Trumpet and Beat of Drum, and distinctly and audibly read, in such several Places within the Cities of London and Westm. and Lines of Communication, as the Commissioners for Martial Law shall think fit, who are to take Care of the Execution of this Order; and all Officers and Soldiers, and all other Persons whom the said Laws and Ordinances do or may in any Wise concern, are hereby strictly enjoined and required to take Notice of them, for the avoiding of the Offences and Penalties therein contained, as they love themselves, and at their utmost Peril: And it is Ordered, That this present Ordinance, and the other of the 29th of August, and 16th of September, herein mentioned, shall be forthwith printed and published."

Letter from the Committee of Sussex, about the E. of Arundel's Woods, near Arundel Cattle.

"To the Right Honourable the Speaker of the Honourable House of Peers assembled in Parliament. These, present.

"Right Honourable,

"Upon the Perusal of an Order from the House of Peers, bearing Date 31 Augusti, 1644, we understand that the Earl of Arundell's Servants have complained against James Vine and others, for cutting, and employing to their own Use, certain Woods and Timber, belonging to the said Earl, in and about Arundell; we take the Boldness to acquaint your Lordship, that, upon a full Meeting of the Committee here, the inclosed Order was made, which we conceive to be grounded upon Reason and Equity; and so much the rather, in regard this County is at a great Charge to maintain and defend the said Earl's Castle for him. We must also acquaint your Lordship, that James Vine was employed for executing the Order that was directed to Colonel Morley; so that what is done by him in Pursuance thereof must be upon our Accompt; so that it is our earnest Request Colonel Morley may proceed to execute our Order, otherwise Arundell Castle may be endangered, and this County receive much Prejudice by it. Thus, desiring a speedy Answer, we take Leave, and remain.

Lewis, 12Oct. 1644.

"Your Honour's most humble Servants,

"Henry Shelley.
"Tho. Jefferay
"Amb. Fraston.
"Nat. Studley.
"Harbert Springett.
Anth. Fowle.
Wm. Hay.
Wm. Newten.

"Sussex, ss.

"At the Committee at Lewes, 24to Maii, 1644.

Order for cutting some down, for Repair of the Castle.

"Whereas Arundell Castle, being the Earl of Arundell'sDwelling-house, wanteth much Reparation and For tification for the Preservation thereof: It is now Ordered, That Colonel Morley, the Governor of that Castle, shall fell, cut down, sell, and dispose of, so much Timber and Wood of the said Earl's, lying beyond the Pond at the North West Side of the Town, being dangerous to harbour an Enemy, as will defray the Charge thereof; and shall employ the same to the Use aforesaid, and give an Accompt to this Committee when the same shall be required.

"Jo. Beecher,

"Per Comm. sup' dict."

Order to preserve the Deer and Pales in Hyde Park.

"Whereas Information hath been given, that several unruly and disorderly Persons have, in a tumultuous and riotous Manner, broken into Hide Parke, pulled down the Pales, to destroy his Majesty's Deer and Woods there, notwithstanding strict Command hath been given to the contrary: It is Ordered and Ordained, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament, That the said Park, Deer, and the Wood and Pales belonging to the said Park, are hereby protected from the Violence of any Person or Persons whatsoever; and that no Soldier or other shall presume to pull down, or take away, any the Pales belonging to the same, nor kill nor destroy any Deer therein, or cut, fell, or carry away, any Wood, growing in or about the said Park or Mounds thereof: And it is further Ordered, for the better Prevention of the Mischiefs aforesaid, That all Captains and Commanders of Guards and Forts near the said Park shall give Notice of this Ordinance to the Soldiers under their several Commands; and that they themselves likewise do their utmost Endeavours, that this Ordinance be obeyed in all Points; and lastly, that if any others, not being Soldiers, shall offend contrary to this Ordinance, that the Keepers of the said Park, or some of them, may charge any of his Majesty's Officers with the said Offenders, who are to be brought before the Parliament, to be proceeded against according to their Demerits."


House adjourned till 9a cras.


  • 1. Deest in Originali.
  • 2. Origin. Guernsey.