382 Lloyd v Jones

The Court of Chivalry 1634-1640.

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John Lloyd of Crynfryn, co. Cardigan, esq v Thomas Jones of Llangaryn [Llangorwen?], co. Cardigan, gent

November 1639 - February 1640


Lloyd complained that Jones gave him the lie and dared him to strike him in the presence of several gentlemen in August 1639. He also claimed that Jones said that he 'cared noe more for your petitioner then for a dogge', and that Lloyd, who was then high sheriff for Cardigan, 'was a base shreife'. Process was granted on 1 November 1639 and bonds were entered for both parties; but no further proceedings survive.

Initial proceedings

2/150, Petition to Arundel

'Thomas Jones of Lloyngary [Llwyngaru] in the said countie did in August last past without anie provocation given him by your petitioner, being then and in present high shreife of that countie, say that Thomas Jones was as good a man as your petitioner; and dared your petitioner several times to stricke him gave him the lye, and said he cared noe more for your petitioner then for a dogge, and that your petitioner was a base shreife, and used divers other vile and scandalous speeches to and of your petitioner in the presence & hearing of divers gentlemen and persons of good credit.

Petitioned that Jones be brought to answer.

Maltravers granted process on 1 November 1639.

2/151, Plaintiff's bond

11 November 1639

Bound to appear 'in the Court in the painted Chamber within the Pallace of Westminster'.

Signed by James Evans of the parish of St Bridget alias St Bride's London, gent, on behalf of Lloyd.

Sealed, subscribed and delivered in the presence of John Watson.

2/27, Defendant's bond

12 February 1640

Bound to appear 'in the Court in the Painted Chamber within the Pallace of Westminster'.

Signed by James Lloyd of the Inner Temple, London, esq on behalf of Jones.

Sealed and delivered in the presence of Humphrey Terrick.


Neither party appeared in M. P. Siddons (ed.), Visitations by the Heralds in Wales (Publications of the Harleian Society, new series, 14, 1996).


  • Initial proceedings
    • Petition to Arundel: 2/150 (1 Nov 1639)
    • Plaintiff's bond: 2/151 (11 Nov 1639)
    • Defendant's bond: 2/27 (12 Feb 1640)

People mentioned in the case

  • Evans, James, gent
  • Howard, Thomas, earl of Arundel and Surrey
  • Jones, Thomas, gent
  • Lloyd, James, esq
  • Lloyd, John, esq
  • Terrick, Humphrey
  • Watson, John

Places mentioned in the case

  • Cardiganshire
    • Crynfryn
    • Llangaryn [Llangorwen?]
    • Llwyngaru
  • London
    • Inner Temple
    • St Bridget alias St Bride's
  • Middlesex
    • Westminster
  • Wales

Topics of the case

  • assault
  • comparison
  • denial of gentility
  • giving the lie
  • high sheriff
  • inns of court