Border Papers volume 1: November 1584

Pages 163-167

Calendar of Border Papers: Volume 1, 1560-95. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1894.

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264. Scrope to Walsingham. [Nov. 5.]

On Friday afternoon last I received your letter of the 24th ult. with her Majesty's pleasure touching the Liddesdales for their late cruel attempt in the Middle Marches—but not having heard, as you intimated, from Sir John Forster, I have written offering to meet him at Hexham to confer on the matter and join our forces.

"By speciall sommons from the King of Scottes, the Larde Johnston is commaunded to appeare before him to answere the burning of Robert Maxwelles barnes and cornes done by some of the Grames our borderers—a thing verie rare to have the warden sommoned and chardged for such a matter. And this daye, if the weather be not his hynderaunce, sholde be the daye of his appearaunce." Carlisle. Signed: H. Scrope.

"Postscript.—I have written for Jock of Peertre, who holdeth furth, and refuseth to comme at me, which thing gyveth me greater suspicion that he is giltie of that you wrote unto me."

1 p. Addressed. Indorsed.

265. James vi. to Hunsdon. [Nov. 6.]

"Trustie and welbelovit cousin wee greet you hartelie well. Calling to accompt the many and insolent attemptis of the inhabitantis of Liddisdale uppoun the opposite Marche of England, and in speciall this last committit by the Elliottes so farr to our displeasure and disapointing of the good course wee have in hande yf it shall lye in them, wee have founde that the oversight of our officer at the Middle Marche has given them no smale incouragement thairto, further nor they durste of them selffis have attemptid. For the which cause wee have removed him from that office and inwardit him within our burgh of Abirdene during our will, and in his place have substitute the Larde of Pherneherst, at whose hande, yow and your deputies maie expect convenyent redres of all enormities committed by the indwellers bothe of our Middell Marche and Liddisdale, wherof wee have likewise appointed him kepar—hee finding the lyke dispositioun and readines with yow and yours. Wherof not doubting for your part upoun the good affection yow beare to the good succes of this purpos wee have in hande testifis by so good prooffes, wee commit yow to Godis protection. From our palais of Halyrudhowse this vj of Novembre 1584. Your loving cousin. James R.

"My Lorde and cousin I have comaundit thErle of Arren to writt unto you aboute certaine bruites I here, which if they be trew, as I think not, I hope ye will make me forsenne."

1p. A copy by Hunsdon's clerk. Addressed. Indorsed.

266. Arran to Hunsdon. [Nov. 6.]

"My verie good Lord, uppon resait of your lordschipis former and late letters, I have traveled with his Majesty and my lordis of his councell with such dilligens as I coulde. Nowe his Majesty with all dilligens hathe examyned Sesford, and fynding such thingis to necligentlie don, his Majesty hathe comitted him to warde and his deputie also, and hath constitut another in his place bothe over the Middell Marche as also to be keepar of Liddisdalle, that neither any thing shalbe attempted within your lordschipis boundis, neither yet that theis past enormities shall slipp unpunisht, which his Majestie commanndid me to sertefie your lordschip of. Moreover, ther be diverse bruites which nether his Majestie nor I do creditt, that ther shoulde be forcis direct to come and do harme in his Majesties contrie, but his Majestie thinketh your lordschip will hould hande to stay sik, forme respect had to his Majesties great care in this dealing to see all thingis quyetlie helpit and amendid. For yf evill and vorinacquyting pas allways forwarde, or that fyre and fyre meet, it will perrill in lengthe of tyme the Christian ametie and the succes of the happie worke, chefflie by your lordschip bothe begunn and defendit (not a littell to your lordschipis honnour and the solid good of bothe the princes and their realmes) except the organs of the Divell stay and disturbe the same. The warden nowe constitut over bothe is the Larde of Pherniherst, who hathe speciall chardg from his Majestie to hould hande to justice and to use your lordschipis good advise franklie, which I doubt not but hee will do, bothe for that his Majesties goodwill is suche, as also your lordschipis goodwill to him heretofore uppon my suit. What I may anywayse pleasur your lordschip with to my power, I pray your lordschip moste humblie I may be as your naturall sonne commandit. God Almightie preserve your good lordschip ever more. From Hallyrudhowse this vjth of November 1584. Your lordschipis assured brother as your sonne to be commandit alwayse. Arranne.

1 p. Copy by Hunsdon's clerk. Addressed. Indorsed.

267. [Walsingham] to Hunsdon. [Nov. 7.]

I thank you for dealing so plainly in making me acquainted by your late letters with the cause of your "greife," accepting the same in good part, and answering with the like plainness. "And first touching the cause of your greif, if it please your lordship to consider, that that which was don, grewe from her Majesties espetyall dyrection, which I am bownde to obey withowt respect of persons, who hath in matters of greater importance then that wherewith your lordship fyndeth your self agreived, used the creditt of the place wherein I serve, in geivinge some pertyculer dyrectyons within the charge of men of best quallitie in this realme, withowt her pryvytye, whereat no exception hath ben taken; for howe unworthie soever I may be thowght of the place, yet shall her Majestie be constrained, for her owne ease and the expedytyon of her servyce, as other prynces in former tymes have don, to use the creditt of the sayd place in the dyrrectinge of some spetiall services without the use of her Majesties owne warrante. And as touchinge the danger your lordship fearethe to have straungers (thoughe nowe frendes) that hereafter maie become enemies, to viewe anie of the places of strengthe within this realme, your lordship knoweth that the strengthe or weakenes of Holly Ilande is not unknowen to the Scottes, and if it were not, yett is there manie an unsounde subjecte even within your lordshipes wardenrie, that for the mallice they beare to the presente gouvermente, would discover the same to Scotland, yf they thowght yt myght anywaye prejudyce England. And it is a generall rule held, that no towne can be stronge that consisteth in seacreasie. And yett in this case touchinge the noblemens repayre to that ilande, it was not meante that they should come within the forte, nor with inconvenient numbers, but onlie remaine in Capten Reades house. And touchinge the greate confluence of Scottes nowe presentlie at Newcastle—thoughe I could wishe the nomber farre lesser then it is, yett notwithstandinge, unlesse it shall please the Kinge to make better choise then of late he hathe don, of such mynisters as he sendeth hither, some one may do more harme here, then seven tymes as manie of the other. Your lordship knoweth that these nobell men and their predecessors have yealded so good proofe of their devotion towardes her Majestie, as she is bounde (and so dothe she acknowledge) in honour, both to countenance and comfort them, beinge perswaded as she is that they carrie a dutifull mynde towardes the King their souveraigne, whatsoever such factious instrumentes as are aboute him do perswade to the contrarie. And notwithstanding the great protestatyons that some one of that realme (fn. 1) makethe of his devotyon towardes her Majestye, in whom your lordship reposethe an espetyall truste, I wyll make yt apparent unto your lordship at the tyme of your repayre hither (which for a season is to be kept secret) that his wyfe (whoe gydethe him as yt is sayd) hathe sought bothe there reconcyliation with the Kinges mother. I knowe the great protestations that he hath made to your lordship of his devotion towardes her Majestie, hath wonne greate creditt with your lordship—for it is hard for a good and honourable mynded man to thincke that such depe and earnest protestations should be voyde of sinceritie—but tyme and experience will laie open before your lordship his unsoundnes; who never yet carried that reputacion that were to be wished in one that doth so greatlie possesse the affection of a prynce, as he doth his masters. There is no wher love I beare to the one nor hatred to the other that movethe me thus to wryte—for so her Majestie might be in safetie, I wyshe them all in Heaven! And yet I am not ignorant what harde bruites have ben geiven out against me, both in Scotland and elswhere, that I seeke to disgrace the present gouverment in Scotlande, thereby to render the Kinges person halefull in respect of some particuler favour I should carrie to some pretended successor here within this realme; whereof I would to God the authors were as free from mallice, as I am from anie such conceipte; wherein I appeale to God, and desier that his vengance maie light uppon me and my posteritie, if I do not wryte as I thincke. For as I hope never to lyve to see a successor, so do I not meane by entringe into such provident courses, as by seeking to provyde for future tymes, to hazarde the losse of the present benefyt I nowe enjoye by her Majesties singuler favor and goodnes. I praie you my good lorde lett not the diversitie of our opinions in this matter of Scotlande (which falleth out oftentymes betweene counsellors of estate) breeade anie dislike or unkyndenes betweene us. And so not doubtinge but your lordship will accept of my plaines used in this behalf, I comyt your lordship to the protection of Almightie God. From etc."

5 pp. Draft corrected by Walsingham. Indorsed: "7 Novem. 1584. M. of a letter to the Lorde of Hunsdon."

268. Scrope to Walsingham. [Nov. 15.]

"On Soundaie last at nonne, being the viijth of this moneth, I receyved answer from Sir John Forster . . . He requested me with my forces (without any conference at all to be had betwen us, as I loked to have had . . . ) to mete him on Thursdaye last past in the breake of the daye, at Martyne Ellotes howse; to whome I retorned aunswere that althowghe the warnyng were verie late. . . I wold (God willing) mete him at the tyme and place by him appointed. Wherupon I set furthe, the weather being verie fayre everie where in all the countrie, till we came to the boundes of Lyddesdale, wher their was growen suche a terrible and foggie myst as is wonderfull to be uttred, and yet I assure you the same no more strange than verie trewe, wherin my companye were mervelouslie seperated and dispersed from me, so as I my selfe was lefte onelie with seven with me by the space of two howres, and all guydes who were there verie well acqueynted, were utterlie voyde of any knowledge where they were! And yet in this tyme were we come within halfe a myle of the place, whither in the ende of our traveyle we came and joyned with him and his campe that night, but in what steade I and my companye stode him, I leave that to his owen report. The strangnes of this myst is the more, for that besydes that they of Lyddesdales them selves, who had gathered them selfes togeather to have done some injorie to our people, were in like sorte in that countrie wholly dispersed one companye from an other—all the other countries rownde about everie waye bothe in England and Scotland, viz., Gyllesland, Bewcastle, Ewsdale, Eskedale and Annerdale, being verie cleare and fayre without either myst or rayne." The other proceedings I leave to the report of Sir John Forster. Carlisle. Signed: H. Scrope.

1 p. Closely written. Addressed. Indorsed.

269. Hunsdon to Burghley. [Nov. 21.]

"This man that your lordship writes of, William Hopewood, askt me leave for greate bussynes that hee semed to have, to pase to London, being not paste three daies before the sertaintie of the Master of Grayes coming to this towne. After whose departure hence, uppon occassion of havinge a hownde stolne, making greate enquiery for him, yt was lett me understande that the saide Hopewoode had bine a greate convoyer of howndes into Scotland, and withall yt was toulde me verie credibly, that the daie before hee went hens, hee received a horse with saddell and furniture from the Larde of Lesterrick. Wheruppon enquiering further of him, I do finde indeed that hee did use much to resorte to the Larde of Lesterrick—wheruppon I conceaved some mistrust of him, and asking his leave at that present tyme, yt was for some further device, then for any bussynes of his owne. Wheruppon I gave greate chardg to William a Selby whome I sent upp with the Master of Graye, to take good heede whither the sayde Hopewoode cam to them any whither by the waye or no. Who wrote to me therof from Weatherbye, for that the sayde Hopewoode cam thither to the ambassadours lodging, as your lordship shall perceave by the lettre hee sent me therof. Sens the coming of Captin Carvell hither, which was within this three daies, hee toulde me that hee sawe the sayd Hopewoode theare, who toulde him that hee had my pasporte thither, to take order for some money that hee ys to paye. It is toulde me also that hee is as yt were a stuarde to the Master of Graye for the keeping of his howse. But shewerly my lorde if hee be dispatcht northwarde, and gave oute that hee cam to his fathers howse, which indeed ys within a myle of Weatherbye, hee ys shewerly gon to the Scotishe Quene—and therfore yt were verie behoufefull that hee were layde for by the waye, either at Waltham or Ware, for hee is gon to returne againe. For their ys no occassion for him to cum this farr, nor to goe into Scotland with any lettres—for the Master of Graye sent one of his owne name to the King with lettres, not paste foure daies sens, whome I looke for daylie to returne this waie againe. And yf Hopewood be come from London, ther is no doubt but hee is gon to Sheaffild, and so shall meet with Mr Graye at his returne either at Weatherbye or somewhere ells by the waye." Berwick. Signed: H. Hunsdon.

1 p. Addressed. Indorsed by Burghley: "21 Nov. 1584. L. of Hunsdon. Hopwood."


  • 1. Arran evidently.