Border Papers volume 2: May 1602

Pages 784-788

Calendar of Border Papers: Volume 2, 1595-1603. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1896.

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1453. John Musgrave to Cecil. [May 8.]

That (as Lord Scrope directed) he yesterday met with the Scottish warden for justice, delivering sundry "faulters" and filing bills for non appearance: and they are to meet again on 10th June for redress. Carlisle. Signed: John Musgrave.

¾ p. Addressed. Indorsed. Wafer signet (Musgrave).

1454. John Musgrave to Scrope. [May 8.]

[To same effect, somewhat fuller.] One principal man, Christy of the Barnleische, was delivered for Mr Sympson. The next meeting on 10th June to be at Gretno kirk. Carlisle. Signed: John Musgrave.

1 p. Addressed. Indorsed by Cecil's clerk. Wafer signet (Musgrave).

1455. Passport for Captain Tyrye, &c. [May 14.]

Licensing the bearers "Captaine Thomas Tyrye, captaine of the Scottes Guard to the King of France, and Master Robert Dugglesse, gentleman of Scotland," to pass through London to France, with 4 horses, viz., 3 grey ambling nags, of 14 hands high, and a brown bay ambling gelding, with white star in the forehead, of 15 hands. Berwick. Signed: Jhon Carey.

¾ p. Addressed as before.

1456. Sir John Carey to Cecil. [May 18.]

Your letter of 1st April, and packet inclosed, wherein it seems there were letters from the French ambassador,—I received at 9 a.m. on the 7th and sent them off before 10—so they were not long in my hands. On the 14th, I received another packet, which I sent at once to Master Nicolson.

The reason why I have not ere this written of the pledges in prison here, is they have been working through their friends to Lord Roxburgh for some relief from others more "faulters then they wer": but they find him so cold in furtherance, as he is displeased at the course taken with them, that there is little hope of their freedom while they live—he who should be their greatest help being their greatest hinderer. One only has found relief through his own friends, viz., Richard Rotherford, who has satisfied all the bills on himself or his surname, by this East March—and on Saturday last the 15th I delivered him at Alnwick to those sent by Mr Woodrington deputy-warden, to receive him. It is thought Lord Roxburgh will try to stay him there, not being relieved by his means. I can only excuse myself for not writing sooner to you, but no man was ever so left without assistance as I am: my lord governor was seldom without 2 assistants, and yet he would call for more, and I must be content with none; for they take what liberty they will to follow their own business, "and so her Majesty unserved"! Berwick. Signed: Jhon Carey.

(fn. 1) I have had 3 meetings with Lord Roxburgh, and one with Lord Hume, and we have agreed very well. I am "overlayed" with business, and cannot do all alone. As my deputy warden is sick in the country, I must entreat you to send either the treasurer, the porter, or the chamberlain, that as I am daily called to the country, one may be in the town.

1 p. Holograph; closely written. Addressed. Indorsed: " … receaved 23 May 1602." Wax signet: swan, &c.

1457. Sir John Carey to Cecil. [May .]

Your last packet to Mr Nicolson was conveyed safe with all speed, as I usually do: but the posts are so slack, that they deserve some check, for they use all alike, not knowing what they carry.

Lord Roxburgh it is thought means to hold on his "pretended" journey through England to France: and to see the Queen's Majesty with great offers of service.

The Dunkirkers still plague us: lately 4 small ships, "or rather botes," came here with corn, &c., for the palace. The Dunkirkers went to a neighbour of ours in Scotland, within 8 miles of us, there taking in fresh water and victuals, waiting to rifle these 4 poor men, when they came out. The latter hearing this, staid as long as they could for the charges, but being "overlayed" with these, stole out of our haven, were at once chased by the Dunkirkers and driven into Holy Island, whence they dare not stir. It is thought others call themselves "Dunkirkers": but be what they will, we are much troubled with them. Signed: Jhon Carey.

1 p. Holograph. Addressed. Indorsed by Cecil's clerk. Wax signet: swan, &c.

1458. Cecil to Sir John Carey. [May.]

I send you a packet for Mr Nicolson, wherein is a despatch from the lords of the Council to the King, as to the "cloathes" confiscated at Durham. I would the King were prepared before his subjects reported it: for if it be considered what acts are passed against the English, the course of confiscation on breach of the statute need not be thought unreasonable: for it seems there is a late law in Scotland confiscating all foreign cloth, wherein I doubt not the King will see some course of mitigation, after the Queen's moderation to him.

Our only news is that Spain prepares a great fleet to fight our ships at sea, fearing we take his treasure: and her Majesty sends a reinforcement to her ships. Sir F. Vere is upon his departure for the Low Countries with 3000 men, besides "voluntaryes." I hope ere long a blow will be struck between the Archduke and Count Mawrice, "in such sort as shall give him little courage to dwell before Ostend."

pp. Draft. Indorsed by Cecil's clerk: "To Sir John Carey."

1459. Sir John Carey to Cecil. [May 24.]

I have no occasion but to send this packet, presently arrived. "The Kinge of Scotland hathe byn latley ill desposed of his helthe, but is at Dumfermlinge withe his Queen, bey resun his yongest duke hath byn in sume danger bey siknes, havinge byn fayen to change his norse." Berwick. Signed: Jhon Carey.

p. Holograph; also address. Indorsed.

1460. Sir John Carey to Cecil. [May 26.]

By your letter of 19th May I find the Queen has been informed that I ordinarily sell the companies here, and every private soldier's "rome," and my wife is a party in these contracts: which, if true, then I am a very unworthy officer, and she is mightily abused by others who receive great fees of her, that should be here to look into my doings. But as my faults cannot be excused by accusing others, I will answer for myself—first, since my coming to absolute authority here, no companies have been sold, unless my own is meant, which was in my lord governor's time with his full allowance: wherein I thought myself rather deserving of praise than blame, for thus sparing her Majesty trouble. Since then all that I know of "first and last," is this of Sir William Reade, who having served her Majesty's father, her sister, and her brother, and now herself, this 50 years and more, and now grown old, blind, and very "impodent," and his company very disorderly by his weakness and absence, he has often solicited me to suffer him to put his son in his place, which after my long denial, he still importuned me to consent to, saying her Majesty would be pleased to do him that favour for his long services. I, considering the riotousness of his soldiers, was content to let him surrender it to his son, who is a sufficient and worthy man. It is true for this favor, that the young man has promised that one day "he wilbe thankefull to me in sume sort: but to saye ther is aney on peney yet taken or reseved, ther is no suche thinge, nether when ther shalbe God knoes; for I kno not." I think this information is made against me by some that I have prevented selling their own companies: and are glad of the chance. For the charge against my wife: I can say no more, "but it mayebe she hathe the fault that commonley most wemen have, wiche is covetusnes: and if aney capteyn will of his owen fre disposityon, geve her a plase, wherof she hathe not maney, and that she have no frend to bestowe it on, it mayebe she had asleve take sum what as not to hav thankes: but shewer I ame, she hathe never extorted of aney bodey nor taken to the prejudise or hort of aney bodey: and I knoe that maney ladeyes near the Cort wold not consume ther lives in this vild conterey withe so small takinges"! The captains are mostly risen from "mean sogers," have only their pay of 2s. a day to live on, and must either make some profit when places fall in their hands, or be troublesome with suits to her Majesty, and remain in very "pooer and begerley" estate. For the poor soldiers' buying and selling places, which breeds the chief report, it has been done both these 20 years before my time, and now, though much against my will: yet I must sometimes tolerate it from necessity—for there are here many old soldiers that have served the Queen's ancestors at Calles, Bullen, and Gines, &c., and are impotent through hurts and loss of blood, and "bedred," whom her Majesty will not for pity discharge—thus her garrison here would be "fraughte" with these old men, if they were not allowed to take 15l. or 16l. for their place from some young lusty able fellow! and who is the worse for it ? the Queen is rid of an old man, and has an able young one in his room: and the old man is satisfied with somewhat to keep him from starving or begging from her Majesty.

Now to justify myself: I will say, and say truly, that there was never governor or deputy governor, or marshal, "or what you will call me, for I knoe not what to call myselfe"—that ever served here with less profit or commodity than I have done, or with greater care to do honest service: and if I fail in her Majesty's good opinion by these slanderous reports, I shall think myself a very unhappy man, and curse the time of my unfortunate birth, which gave me no better fortune. Referring to the Queen's sacred memory, whether ever any one enjoyed this place so long as I, and have given her so little trouble. Berwick. Signed: Jhon Carey.

pp. Holograph; closely written. Addressed. Indorsed.

1461. Sir John Carey to Cecil. [May 26.]

Your letter of the 19th of May gave me more comfort than ever I had before, finding your favour towards me in my good cause: "and, secondley, to see that pale Envey, havinge convind all her malissius, leane, and maney collered sprites, to searche out sume mischefe agayenst me, cane feynd no worse matter to worke ther poysoned venam uppon." [Defends himself against the charges of selling companies, &c., as in preceding letter, somewhat more fully]. Sir William Reade's son has only one fault "insedent to maney men of better worth then he is." As for Lady Carey, "if her Majesty wold searche into takers so narroweley" he believes "she myghte feynd takers of another kynd nearrer hand, suche as take moer in on daye then she hathe dun in all her life: and she myght awenser for herselfe, it is not the use in aney plase wher she hath byn, to doe good tornes gratise": adding, that she has not benefited herself so much as was worth a complaint! Offers to come up in 4 days only, and answer before the Queen: when it may be, he will make his accusers "pull ther hates as lowe over ther eyes" as he will do over his. Finally enlarges on the liberty his accusers enjoy while drawing the Queen's pay, to follow their own business and practise against others, while he is "teyed here at a stake" serving the Queen as chargeably as any former governor without any fee, though often promised, and abiding any scandal that wild or base persons may prefer: his estate neglected and his suits at law mismanaged, his tenants refusing to pay their rents, regarding him not "upe hear in a moddey plase wher no good is." Prays him to bear with his tediousness as necessity has drawn him to it, and could say much more if they were "fase to fase." Has written another letter "muche after the form of this," and refers both to his consideration. Berwick. Signed: Jhon Carey.

3 pp. Holograph. Large sheets very closely written. Addressed. Indorsed. Wax signet: swan, &c.

1462. Scrope to Cecil. [May 26.]

Reminding him "nowthat the holie dayes be paste," of John Musgrave's suit, which he left with Mr Winibanck, who may forget it. Cannot satisfy him in "the other matter" unless he betrayed trust, which he knows Cecil would not wish him to do. Langer. Signed: Th. Scroope.

¾ p. Holograph. Addressed. Indorsed. Wafer signet.


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