James I: October 1604

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Calendar of State Papers, Ireland, 1603-1606 . Originally published by Longman and Co, London, 1872.

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James I: October 1604

351. The Establishment for Ireland. [Oct. 1.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 216, 42.

The establishment for Ireland, expressing the number of officers, general and provincial, warders in the several forts and castles, &c., with their several entertainments, to begin the first of October.

P. 1.

352. A List of the Army in Ireland, and how they are now disposed of. [Oct. 1.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 216, 43.

Munster Lo. President 50
Lo. President 100 900
Mr. Treasurer 100
Sir Josias Bodley 100
Sir Francis Barkely 100
Sir Richard Morrison 100
Sir Ellis Jones 100
Sir Charles Wilmott 100
Sir Richard Percy 100
Capt. Richard Hansard 100
Carrickfergus Sir Arthur Chichester 25 75
Sir Joseph Jephson 50
Sir Arthur Chichester 100 200
Sir Foulke Conway 100
Mountjoy Sir Francis Roe 100 1,000
Charlemont Sir Tobias Caulfield 100
Ardmagh Sir Thomas Williams 100
Mountnorris Capt. Henry Atherton 100
Dundalk Sir Ferdinando Freckleton 100
Longford Capt. Richard Tirrell 100
Drogheda Sir Oliver Lambert 100
Wexford Sir Lawrence Esmond 100
Dublin Lord Lieutenant's Guard 100
Lecale Sir Raffe Bingley 100

The army of horse and foot as they are engarrisoned in Ireland, viz.:—

Horses, 374. Foot, 3,900.
Loughfoyle Sir Henry Dockwrae 50
Sir Henry Dockwrae 100
Sir John Sidney 100
Capt. Edward Leigh 100
Capt. Basil Brook 100 —450
Ballishanon Sir Henry Foliott 50
Sir Henry Foliott 100
Sir William Winden 100 —250
Newry Sir Richard Trevor 25
Capt. Edward Trevor 100 —125
Leinster Lord Lieutenant 50
Ophaley Sir Edward Herbert 12
Sir Francis Rushe 100 —112
Leixe Mr. Marshall 50
Mr. Marshall 100
Sir Henry Power 100
Sir Thomas Cooche 100 —350
Connaught Capt. Edmond Wenman 12
Earl of Clancicard 100
Sir Samuel Bagnall 100
Sir Thomas Roper 100
Sir Lionel Gheste 100
Capt. Thomas Rotheram 100 —512
Monaghan Sir Edward Blaney 100
Sir Raffe Conestable 100 —200

Pp. 3.

353. Ordinary Charges of the Army. [Oct. 4.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 216, 43 a.

Brief collection of His Majesty's ordinary charges to the army, according to the last establishment.

P I.

354. Carey to Cranbourne. [Oct. 7.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 216, 44.

Has given licence to Sir James Fullerton to repair to England, and commends him.—Leixlip, 7 October 1604.

P. 1. Signed. Add. Endd.: "Cary to Viscount Cranborne."

355. Carey to Cranbourne. [Oct. 7.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 216, 45.

Submits rather unwillingly to his and the Lord Treasurer's request for the coming over of Mr. Newcomen, for the victualling causes, and beseeches that he may be returned hither as soon as may be.

Laments his hard hap not to have leave to quit Ireland, where he serves only (to his grief) to be the means to pass away the King's best land and tenures, for he can see no direction for the setting of this kingdom in any good fashion. Entreats that Thomas Watson, his agent, may still importune Cecil for his short return. Excuses his giving orders for payment of sums borrowed in Ireland out of the silver harps, part of the treasure in the Tower, appointed for Ireland, as they cannot borrow on other conditions. Protests that he never used a penny of the King's treasure for private use, but has often forborne his own entertainments and has borrowed of others to get the servitors content. There is now 6,000l. borrowed, and must be paid in England, or else his credit is lost for ever. —Leixlipp, 7 October 1604.

Pp. 2. Hol. Add. Endd.: "Cary to Viscount Cranbourne."

356. Charge of Works at Haulbowling. [Oct. 12.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 216, 45 A.

Note of charge of the works at Haulbowling in the river of Cork, the great fort of Castlepark near Kinsale, and the fort of Galway, begun 15 Feb. 1601–2, and continued till 2 October 1604, under the hand of Saml. Molineux.

P. 1.

357. Estimate of King's Charge in Ireland. [Oct. 12.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 216, 46.

An estimate of the King's charge in Ireland upon the disbanding of the thousand footmen, now intended.

P. 1.

358. Lord Butler to Cranbourne. [Oct. 14.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 216, 47.

Thanks him for procuring him the government of the county of Catherlough; but it may effect his hindrance if he be not furthered by men in pay of His Majesty, for that country is so inhabited with mean Irish, so linked together in alliance and kindred, and so addicted by custom to foster and maintain uncivil dealings, that it is otherwise impossible to work any reformation upon them. Begs that he may be granted 10 horse and 20 foot, with like entertainment as is given to the governors of Leix and Offaly. Is loth to make this demand, but has little means of his own, his lands, in the time of the late rebellion, having been so wasted; neither will the Lord, his father-in-law, give him competent allowance, by persuasion of ill officers that are about him; and to trust the risings-out of the country would prove very inconvenient. Refers to his petition to the Lords of the Council for fuller explanation, which he has directed the bearer of his letter, Mr. Hadsor, first to import unto Cecil.—Carrick, 14 October 1604.

Pp. 2. Signed. Sealed. Endd. Add.

359. Fenton to Cranbourne. [Oct. 14.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 216, 52.

Cecil was pleased, at his (Fenton's) attending on him, to say that he (Fenton) was a very rich man, and that the same had been written to Cecil, and made good besides, by the report of many coming out of Ireland. This matter he (Fenton) would gladly have purged then, by offering a true declaration of his whole estate; but as Cecil seemed not willing to accept of that manner of defence, he (Fenton) went away the more grieved, feeling how heavy and dangerous those impressions might weigh against him in Cecil's conceit. Having now met at this place with his wife, who is more inwardly privy to his estate than himself, he has (out of her knowledge), gathered a true collection of all his worldly wealth, both in Ireland and England, and makes bold to send it to Cecil, testified under his hand, thereby to satisfy him, even upon the duty of his soul and his conscience towards God; humbly leaving it to work in Cecil's mind, how hardly he is persecuted by his envious and known adversaries, who, being destitute of honest and important matter to work his fall, seek to ruin him by these impious and unjust surmises. Knows that none of his informers would buy his estate at the rates set down in this certificate, so that they know in their own hearts how far their malice has exceeded the truth. And yet, laying his 15 years' service spent in Ireland, in most dangerous and turbulent times, he doubts not that Cecil, whom God hath endowed with a heart of uprightness, will rather judge his estate to be pitied, than his gains to be envied. Is persuaded that if he had spent so many years in the service of some nobleman about the Prince, and had been to him an honest servant, his estate would have been better, at least he should have been borne up in the end of his time against the malice and envy of his adversaries. Humbly beseeches Cecil not to let this declaration offend him in the truth of his worldly estate, which, how poor and small soever it be, he may safely avow out of a good conscience that he has not got it by unlawful or dishonest ways, having always regarded in the course of his employment his Prince's service more than his own particular. Doubts if many of his informers can in like safety of conscience avow the same for themselves; but as the Lord hath laid down his portion which, be it little or great, he should be sure to him in his good time, so towards his adversaries he leaves them to God's justice, which sleepeth not, to repay into them in his time the wrongs which by these calumniations they have done to him. Only desires the continuance of Cecil's wonted favour, which, in some measure, may recompense him.— Lichefelde, 14 October 1604.

Pp. 2. Signed. Endd. Add.: "Fenton to Cecyll."

360. The King to [Sir George Carey, Deputy]. [Oct. 15.] Philad. P., vol. 1, p. 67.

Letters explaining the establishment or list of 23 July 1604. At foot is the following:—

Captains of foot bands discharged the last of March 1604, being assigned pensioners for themselves, lieutenants, and ensigns,—

Captain Edward Morrice.

Captain Nicholas Pinnar.

Captain Roger Orme.

Captain Samuel Harrison.

Captain Edward Waddington.

Captain Henry Skipworth.

Captain James Blunt.

Captain Edward Legge.

Captain Ellis Loyd.

Captain Thomas Badbie.

Captain George Flower.

Captain Roger Langford.

Captain John Vaughan.

Captains discharged the last cashe in July 1604:—

Captain Ralph Sydley

Captains to be cashed by virtue of these letters with their companies:

Of the Lord Lieutenant's Ward 100
Of the Treasurer's " 100
Sir Laurence Esmonds 100
Sir Francis Barkley 100
Sir Ferdinando Freckleton 100
Captain Edward Leigh 100
Captain Basill Brooke 100
Captain Lionel Gest 100
Captain Sir John Sidney 100
Sir William Winsor 100

Pp. 2. Copy. Endd. Not add.

Endorsement in Sir Arthur Chichester's hand: "Receaved by Sr George Caree before my tyme."

361. The King to Sir George Carey, Lord Deputy, and the Council.[Oct.15.] Philad. P., vol. 1, p. 69.

The Deputy having often renewed his suit since last spring to be licensed, in regard of his health and private affairs, to come over, the King, by his letters of the 24th of July last, granted him leave so to do, and gave him orders to deliver over the sword to Sir Arthur Chichester, Knight, whom he had made choice of to supply the place of Chief Governor there, with the title of justice of that realm in the absence of the King's Lieutenant. But this had not been executed, because he (Sir Arthur Chichester) had excused himself of accepting that place, and had sent to the King's Council divers reasons to justify his excuse. The King having considered all his reasons was not therewith otherwise moved than to hold them good arguments of his modesty, but no grounds why he should forbear to impose on him (Sir Arthur) to undertake the service laid upon him. For although in persons called to public charges of so great honour as that was, modesty and slackness to accept them was a virtue as rare as it was commendable where it was truly found, yet it was no just reason to princes to deprive themselves of the service of such persons, but rather a motive to call them forward. And seeing that the sufficiency which moved him first to choose him, and did now in its excuses verify itself, would be supported with the countenance of the King's commission, he doubted not that both together would so enable him as, for the time he meant to use his service in that charge, the same would be supplied to the King's contentment and to the increase of his (Sir Arthur's) merit in former services. Wherefore he had resolved to lay the place of Deputy in that kingdom upon him, and to command him for his part to accept the same. And he (the now Deputy) upon the receipt of those his letters, as soon as things might conveniently be put in order for the solemnity used in like cases, was to deliver up the sword to Sir Arthur Chichester as the King's Deputy there ; and that being done, he (Sir George Carey) might return unto him so soon as he thought fit for his health, having settled such things as should require his advice upon that translation of the place to another's government. And because there were many things that required both reformation and better establishment of that kingdom, for which purpose no consultation was so proper as by calling of the three estates of the realm together to consult and resolve of all things tending to the good of the realm, he (the King) had thought fit to let those of the Council know that he had resolved, so soon as his greater affairs were passed over there, to summon a Parliament in Ireland, to which end he meant to consider there, by such advice as he should hear from thence thereafter, of all such things as were most necessary, towards which he should be the better assisted by hearing his (Sir George Carey's) opinion first upon his arrival, as he should likewise expect to do from his (the King's) Deputy that remained behind him, who should receive like directions from him to enter into consultation thereupon. And those his letters should be his sufficient warrant and discharge in that behalf. —Hampton Court, 15th October 1604.

Pp. 2. Copy. Add. Endd. Enroll. At foot is the following in Sir George Carey's handwriting: "This is a trew copye. —George Carey."

[Printed by Erck, Calendar, p. 167.]

362. Draft of the foregoing, corrected by Lord Cranbourne.— Without date. [Oct. 15.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 216, 51.

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363. The King to Sir Arthur Chichester. [Oct. 16.] Philad. P., vol. 1, p. 70 a.

It will appear by the King's letter to the Deputy and Council in general both what interpretation he puts on his (Chichester's) late refusal, and upon how good an opinion of his sufficiency to discharge the place the King has grounded his election. He needs not write, as doubting Chichester's conformity to his pleasure, but rather, according to the necessity of his service, acquaint him with such directions in his first beginning as may help to guide him in succeeding times.

As for the better performance thereof he intends to call a Parliament, at which meeting opportunity is offered to lay open and reform burdens and inconveniences of state, and to constitute new laws for the future, so he has now held it most necessary to consider how quiet may be best prepared against that time. He (Chichester) is required to take notice by this letter, and to intimate to those whom it may concern, that the King desires to have a present consultation of all such things as may tend to the better establishment of the true religion, of the general policy and justice of the realm in able government, and of the better ordering of the public treasure, both for the King's honour and profit; and yet in all these things to proceed with that moderation that may stand with the safety of that kingdom. In all which things, although he does not mean to forbid Chichester to communicate with such other councillors as shall be necessary, yet because in all consultations some are more proper to be employed than others, and because such distributions tend to greater maturity and better expedition, he thinks it convenient that Chichester should most particularly consult with these persons following, according to their several plans and professions, namely, the Bishop of Meath, the Bishop of Down, the two Chief Justices, the Chief Baron, the Master of the Rolls, Sir Richard Cooke, Secretary, and Sir John Davys, Solicitor, or as many of them as can from time to time attend the service.—Hampton Court, 16 October 1604.

Pp. 3. Orig. Add. Endd.

364. Copy of foregoing, without date. [S.P., Ireland, vol. 216, 51 A.]

Pp. 2½.

365. Warrant for Sir A. Chichester's Entertainment as Deputy. [Oct. 16.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 216, 48.

Warrant to the Treasurer at Wars in Ireland, to pay Sir Arthur Chichester the fees and entertainments of Lord Deputy, and 1,000l. yearly in addition, with 500l. as a gift for an outfit.

P. ½. Add.: "Sir George Carey, Knight."

366. Memorials for Ireland. [Oct. 16.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 216, 48 A.

1. That the Lord Deputy may have instructions as all former Deputies.

2. That he look carefully to the King's revenue; and that he cause the Treasurer, Chancellor, and Barons of the Court of Exchequer to make certificates once a year of all such sums as they cannot levy by ordinary process, according to the instructions sent thither in the late Queen's time.

3. That the Lord Deputy and Council be very sparing in giving concordatums, &c.

4. To be very sparing also in granting pardons and protections, and that only on the Council table.

5. That set times be appointed for the passing of wardships, letting the King's lands, installing or remitting of debts, and for the new passing of lands upon weak or defective titles, for which commission now is sent.

6. That such treasure as goeth from hence (falling short to pay the marshal men and others) may, by way of dividend, be disposed at the Council table for the better contentment of all parties, as hath been usual heretofore upon the like occasion.

7. That the Court of Exchequer forbear the instalment of any debts, as His Majesty has given special commission for same.

8. No office to be granted but only during pleasure, unless by special warrant from His Majesty; nor any new office or grant that may be a charge unto His Highness.

9. That the Lord Bourke's pension of 100l. per annum may cease, being given but during Her late Majesty's pleasure.

The following offices and fees to cease upon the decease or avoidance of the present patentees, according to a list given:—

The Judge Marshal 6s. 8d. per diem.
The clerk of the casualties 53l. 6s. 8d. per ann.
Surveyor of the victuals 10s. a piece per diem.
The victualler in Munster 3s. 4d. per diem.
The victualler in Connaught 6s. per diem.
Comptroller of the import 93l. 6s. 8d. per ann. a piece.
Four soldiers belonging to the Castle at Dublin that never attend 66l. 8s. 2d. per ann.
The marshal of the Star Chamber 13l. 6s. 8d. per ann.
Returned to the Rolls.
The keeper of the records in Birmingham's Tower 13l. 6s. 8d. per ann.
Walter M'Edmund for them and their septs. 100l. per ann. a piece.
Godfrey M'Donnell
Hugh Buy M'Donnell
Mr. Ware's increase of 10s. per diem.

The lands are now in the King's hands, and these were belonging to the county palatine, now ceased.

The Seneschal of the liberties of Wexford. 20l. per ann.
Justice 20l. per ann.
Receiver 20l. per ann.
Serjeant 20l. per ann.
All paymasters to cease presently 600l. per ann.
All engineers to cease presently 120l. per ann.

All new made ministers of the ordnance and petty victuallers to cease presently, and all other offices chargeable to the King, unless they have patents for life or good behaviour.

That 1,000l. per ann. allowed for wards may presently cease, considering the late establishment the commissioners have had care of providing for wards.—Probably 16 October 1604.

Pp. 3. Endd.: "Memorials for Ireland."

367. Sir Henry Brouncker to Cranbourne. [Oct. 17.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 216, 49.

Complains that it is two months since his dispatch to the King and the Lords of the Council, and that he is still without an answer. Till their resolution he is at a stay. For his own particular, his entertainments are small, and much lessened by the composition; and yet has he received no help from Dublin, nor by the revenue of this province, which through the poverty of the tenants cometh in very slowly.

Complains that it is constantly reported that Mr. Charles Wilmott has obtained the government of Kerry and Desmond, and Sir Richard Piercy of Kinsale, but can scarce believe that anything- shall pass from His Majesty so disgraceful to him (Sir Henry) and prejudicial to the whole province.

The sickness at Cork hath driven him to the ruinous house at Mallow, where he is not like to be long free, all the towns and parts of the province being infected. This judgment is like to be as severe as the storm of war and famine wherewith the Flemings hath poisoned this disobedient and rebellious nation.—Mallow, 17 October 1604.

Pp. 2. Signed. Sealed. Add. Endd.: "Brouncker to Cecyll."

368. The King to Lord Deputy. [Oct 18.] Docquet Book, Oct. 18.

Letter to the Lord Deputy of Ireland, to admit Sir Garret Moore to be one of His Majesty's Council there, and to give him the oath accustomed.

369. The Earl of Ormond to Cranbourne. [Oct. 24.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 216, 50.

Thanks him for obtaining his late suit to His Majesty of the reversion of such lands as he held of him, unto him and the heirs male of his body; as also for the caveat touching the spiritual possessions he holds of His Majesty, wherein he is interested for the term of 20 years yet to come, at the yearly rents of 231l. 9s. 9d. Understands that His Majesty upon sight of his petition, moved by his late agent, Mr. Roth, was content to pass the said parcel unto him in fee-farm for the said yearly rent, so as he would be content to pay a reasonable fine for the grant.

Prays Cecil to urge the King to moderate any fine His Majesty may demand, considering the waste of his lands by the late rebellion, his regular payment of the rents of the parsonages to the late Queen, and that they were, at the best, of small worth above the rent, however some malicious persons may have untruly informed. He has appointed his friend William Lenthall, to wait upon him for this suit of his. He must not forget to give him hearty thanks for his kind speeches, delivered of him to His Majesty, when his hawks were presented to His Majesty at the gallery at Whitehall.— Carrick, 24 October 1604.

P. 1. Signed. Add. Endd.: "Earl of Ormond to Cecyll."

370. Sir George Carey, Lord Deputy, to any of His Majesty's Council. [Oct. 25.] Carte Papers, vol. 61, p. 139.

Warrant for making a fiant of a commission to Sir Edward Pelham, Chief Baron, Sir Richard Cooke, Principal Secretary, and Nicholas Candish, Esq., His Majesty's Serjeant-at-Law, and Sir John Davys, Solicitor-General, or to any three or two of them, to inquire of the wastes of such lands as Sir Henry Harrington holdeth of His Majesty, in the county of Dublin and Kildare, during the late rebellion, and to remit so much of the arrears as shall be thought fit and agreeable to His Majesty's instruction.—Leixlip, 20 October 1604.

P. 1. Original.

371. Lords of the Council to Sir George Carey, Lord Deputy. [Oct. 25.] Philad. P., vol. 3, p. 21.

Directing the Lord Deputy and Council to re-hear the complaint of Stephen French and Christopher Lynch, merchants of Galway, complaining that they could not be allowed to bank their money with the bank-master of Galway, nor receive bills of exchange from him according to the proclamation and course established of the new exchange.—Whitehall, 25 October 1604.

Signed: T. Ellesmere, Canc., T. Dorset, H. Northampton, Cranbourne, E. Zouche, J. Balmerino, J. Herbert.

P. 1. Orig.

372. Number of Horsemen in Ireland. [Oct.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 216, 46 A.

Account of the number of horsemen in Ireland, with their commanders, and of footmen, in the several provinces and forts. (Not dated, but probably in October.)

Pp. 2.