James I: July 1603

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James I: July 1603

79. Sir George Carey to Cecil. [July 1.] S. P., Ireland, vol. 215, 75.

Thanks him for being the means that the King has been pleased to sign the commissions for taking his accounts. Beseeches him to cut off the exchange, for the people, expecting daily for the decrying of this money, urgently press for exchange according to the last proclamation. If he should give way to the demand he would prejudice the King, having no means to re-utter the same. The quantity of money of this new standard remaining under his charge is greatly increased by reason of certain warrants lately received by the Lords of the Council, commanding him to get bills of exchange for great sums of money of this new standard. Beseeches him to be more sparing; otherwise His Majesty must be a great loser, when a great mass of this coin shall remain in the bank unissued at the time of decrying it. Assures him that the longer he delays, the greater will be the King's loss, and the burthen for the poor servitors. —Dublin, 1 July 1603.

Hol. Pp. 2. Sealed. Add.: "To the Rt Honorable L. Cecyll."

80. Sir Jeffrey Fenton to Cecil. [July 1.] S. P., Ireland, vol. 215, 76.

The Earl of Thomond is returning to the Court to perform his duty to the King, with a general letter from the State here of his many services both in martial and civil affairs. Yet he (Fenton) adds his own special recommendation of the Earl. He has gone beyond all others of his rank, as well by his example in the field, as in contributing to the necessities of the army both in provisions of victuals and in levies of men out of his own country. By his endeavours to work others to the same, he has given no mean countenance to the general service in whatever part of the realm the army has been employed. In the ordering of his house or governing of his country, his course has been always English, striving to bring in English customs and to beat down all Irish barbarous usages, that he might in time make his country civil, and bring the inhabitants in love with English laws and government. So much so, that he is held here to be more English than Irish.—Dublin, 1 July 1603.

P. 1. Signed. Sealed. Add.: "To the Rt honorable the L. Cecill."

81. The King to the Lord Mountjoy, Lieutenant of Ireland, and in his absence, to Sir George Carey, the King's Deputy there. [July 1.] Philad. P., vol. 1, p. 15.

In favour of Richard Cooke, Chancellor of the Court of Exchequer in Ireland, in consideration of service done to Queen Elizabeth, and for his encouragement thereafter, to have an estate in fee-farm of the manor of Dunshaghlin, in the county of Meath, with the chief rents thereto belonging, amounting to 6l. 9s. 2d. yearly, together with the capital messuage in Dunshaghlin aforesaid, and all other the lands, &c. of John Delahide, lately attainted of high treason, comprised in a lease granted to said Richard Cooke by Queen Elizabeth in the 44th year of her reign, for 21 years. Also the towns of Dunsink and Scribbleston, in the county of Dublin, of the yearly value together of 14l. 15s. 8d. Also of our rectory of Dunboyne, in the counties of Dublin and Meath, yielding to the King for the said parsonage the present rent; to hold of the King in free and common soccage of the castle of Dublin.—Windsor Castle, 1 July 1603.

Copy. Pp. 2. Endd. in Sir Arthur Chichester's hand: "Fee-farms past in the tyme of Sir George Carye, my predecessor."

82. L. Deputy and Council of Ireland to the Lords. [July 2.] S. P., Ireland, vol. 215, 77.

William Meagh, Recorder of Cork, left in prison in the castle of Dublin by the Lord Lieutenant before his departure for England, charged with treason and other foul misdemeanors committed by him in the late tumults in that corporation, is since indicted of sundry treasons at a late sessions held at Youghall. Such were the difficulties, that the indictment had not been found but for the industry of the commissioners, assisted by some others. From the report of these proceedings given by Sir Nicholas Walshe, they fear that the difficulties will be greater of attainting him either at Youghall or in any other part of the county of Cork, so great is his popularity there, and the affections of the people so contrary and backward in a cause of this nature. So great indeed is the general interest in all the people of this land in the matter of the religion he professeth, that they fear to find no less difficulty if they put him to trial in any county adjoining, by reason of the number of challenges he may make; namely, 35 peremptory, without showing of cause, and as many more as he can show cause for. Considering that he was a ringleader in all these late seditions of the towns, they ask advice whether they should venture his trial, or whether the Lords of the Council would have him sent into England to be tried there, according to former precedents in like cases. Till they hear this resolution the Recorder shall remain in prison, and all further dealing with him shall be suspended till then. Meanwhile the Deputy has given order to have his writings and his papers searched, and his goods put in inventory and seized to the King's use if he should be found guilty. They send the abstract of the indictment found against him at Youghall. The Lieutenant, who was present at Cork when all the examinations were taken, carried the information and proofs with him. Since the late commotions in the towns, happily stayed by the Lieutenant, a great swarm of Jesuits, seminaries, friars, and priests, notwithstanding their late danger, frequent the towns and other places in the English Pale and borders more openly and boldly than before; few of the best houses in the Pale are free from relieving and receiving them. The Council find that they are under a strong and perilous impression, and so persuade the people, that there shall be a toleration of religion; and for the procuring of it, sundry of the better sort of the Pale and towns are sent as agents to the Court to solicit the same, and great contributions of money cut upon the country for their expenses and other charges of the suit. And being fallen upon this point, they urge the Lords of the Council to move the King to consider of some present settled course concerning religion, to bridle the boldness and backslidings of the Papists before matters grow to further danger. For though the Deputy and Council apply the authority of the State with as great discretion as they can, (not knowing as yet what will be His Majesty's course on the point of religion), yet it avails little to stay the case, for they make a contempt of all their (the Council's) doings, reposing altogether upon their project of toleration. This insolency has its origin from the Jesuits, friars, and massing priests, but is strongly supported by some lawyers, practisers at the bar, and some of the King's officers in his several courts, and all chief leading men who countenance the contempt of the Gospel. To encounter this evil the council suggest a proclamation from His Majesty for the expulsion of the Jesuits, friars, seminaries, and massing priests, by a day, and punishing with severe penalties all their relievers and abettors, whatsoever they be. And for the lawyers, that are to be justly touched, that they be put from the bar and all other practice of the law, and the other officers to be removed from their places until they shall enter into good bonds to come to the Church. Understanding that most of the cities and corporate towns intend to send over agents for renewing their charters, they suggest that in renewing their charters, the corporations may be restrained to due limitations, such as may stop their former presumption and leave them no ground to interpret themselves to be so peremptory and absolute as they now do; for upon the well tempering and moderating of the charters of the corporate towns will depend a great moment for the better ordering of the other parts of the kingdom.

They send the examinations they had lately taken of two persons, the one a gentleman of the country of Dublin, called George Caddell, and the other a friar conversing in the Pale, both their speeches running directly against his Majesty's person. The gentleman called George Caddell they had committed in the Castle of Dublin, but the friar, through the favour and partiality of the people that were upon the place, is escaped. Some time before the Lieutenant's departure, one Henry Dillon accused Robt. Rochford (both gentlemen of the Pale, of certain speech uttered by Rochford in a common assembly of the country tending to the dishonour of your Lordships and the State of England. The Lieutenant, not having time to examine the matter, referred it to the Council. They accordingly sent for Dillon, who maintained the accusation, and afterwards, at a day assigned, appeared with his witnesses, also Rochford; but Dillon noting some weakness in some of them to prove the speeches, desired a longer day, which was given him in the presence of Rochford, who was likewise enjoined to be before us at the same day. But in the meanwhile Rochford suddenly slipt into England. Only Dillon kept his day, though with no further proofs, alleging some defects in the former interrogatories, but prayed a further day, which was granted to him.

Lastly, the town of Kilkenny having erred with the other corporations in the matter of their religion, on their submission to the Lord Lieutenant, promised not only reformation of their idolatry, but also to pull down certain relics of Popery, which they had put up in an abbey there, and to reduce the place to the use of a sessions house. Notwithstanding their promise, they have made new additions of idolatrous images and many other idle toys. And they maintain openly there a friar of great note among the Papists. Such is the information of two officers of the King sent thither by the Council, who yesterday returned. —Dublin, 2 July 1603.

Pp. 5. Add.: "To the Lls. and others of his Mats Privy Council."

83. The Indictment of Willm. Meaghe [Mead], Recorder of Cork. [June 6.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 215, 77 I.

Gaol delivery. (fn. 1)

Names of the Grand Jurors.

Owen O'Solivan, of Carrig, gentleman.

Teig M'Cormack Carty, of Bally [Ballea], gentleman,

John Tailor, of Mallowe, gentleman.

Thom. Gaukaghe, of Ishynegreagh [Inchnagree], gentleman.

Garrott Boy Barry, of Ballyncourty, gentleman.

John Barry, alias M'Adam, of Rathcormac, gentleman.

Edmund M'Shane M'Edmund, of Ballynecorry, gentleman.

Arthur Hyde, of Carrigyneady, gentleman.


Cahir O'Callighan, of Dromynive, gentleman.

Wm. Mallesant, of Killeaghie, gentleman.

Brian M'Owen, of Cloghdoe, gentleman.

Redmund Magner, of Aghaddy [Aghada], gentleman.

Teig M'Dermod M'Donell, of Knockcoilly [Knockilly], gentleman.

John Barrie, alias M'Adam, of Ballycloghie, gentleman.

Garrott Barrie, of Bally Regan, gentleman.

6 June 1603. Add.: "The indictment of Wllm. Meaghe, Recorder of Corke."

84. Matters to charge George Caddell. [June 16.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 215, 77 II.

The examination of Richard Snooke, of Luggerston, in the county of Dublin, yeoman, taken before the Right Honourable Sir George Carye, Knight, and Sir Anthony St. Leger, Knight, the 16th of June 1603.

That on Saturday last, Mr. George Caddell asking him what news out of England, he (Snooke) told him he heard none, then Caddell said: I pray God send us good news, and God send that we may enjoy the old religion; he (Snooke) said the King was a Protestant; then Caddell replied, if we might not enjoy the old religion he did think the King would not reign long, for he did think that he will be poisoned. After coming into his house, Snooke told his wife, and on Monday last, in the afternoon, told all the speeches unto Thomas Fesant, servant to the said Sir Anthony St. Leger.

George Carye.

Anth. St. Leger.

The examination of Ann Snooke, wife to Richard Snooke, taken before me, Sir Anthony St. Leger, Knight, the 17th of June 1603.

Confirms her husband.

Examination of Richard (fn. 2) [George] Caddell, gent., taken the 20th of June 1603, before Sir Anthony St. Leger, Knight.

First, admits he had private conversation together with Richard Snooke, about Friday or Saturday was sevennight, in a green on the backside of Snooke's house.

Being asked what those speeches were, he said Snooke asked him: What news out of England? He answered, he heard the King was at London, and that he hoped he would give them liberty of their consciences; but what answer Snooke made to this, he did not then remember. Had no further speeches with him, but of matters of husbandry and private affairs.

G. Caddell.

Anth. St. Leger.

16 June 1603. "Matters to charge George Caddell."

Pp. 3.

85. Henry Dillon's Accusation against Rochford. [April 13.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 215, 77 III.

On the 13th of April 1603. The noblemen, the gentry, and inhabitants of the county of Meath were assembled at the Abbey of Navan, in the county of Meath, for the new plotting of the ploughlands of Meath. After that matter was broken, the Lords of Slane, Killene, and Dunsany, being assembled at the backside of the abbey, with divers gentlemen of the county, to the number of 40, Mr. Robert Rochford, of Kylbride, in the county of Meath, used this speech, viz.: "That now was the time to send agents into England, for in the Queen's time all matters was patched up for the present time without respect for the time to come, and that her Council were but hirelings." He (Henry Dillon) was present and heard this speech, the day and year aforesaid. Signed: "Hen. Dillon."

13 April 1603. Hol. P. 1. "Accusation against Rochford."

86. Fenton to Cecil. [July 4.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 215, 78.

Adds his recommendation of the bearer, Mr. Dolwaie, who, having spent 25 years in the wars of this realm, is recommended to Cecil in a general letter from the state here. Has been often an eye-witness of his services in the field, where he has acquitted himself with very good credit.—Dublin, 4 July 1603.

Hol. P. 1. Add. Sealed. "To the Rt honorable the Lord Cecyll, Baron of Essingden, &c."

87. Lord Deputy and Council to the Lords, concerning the Base Money. [July 12.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 215, 79.

They acquaint the Lords with the hard condition of the kingdom through the scarcity of all things and the excessive prices of provisions, from the universal dislike of the new standard, the people fearing of late that it shall be decried. They refuse to sell anything they have for it, except they receive six or seven for one, or be paid in silver money for their wares. Their ordinary speech is, they will keep their wares in their shops, rather than vent them for this money, seeing they can make no use of it. Hard as was the state of the poor servitors when the Lord Lieutenant was here, it is now worse. From a further increase of prices, the servitor is not able to buy anything for this money, but is driven to get his provisions out of England or out of the King's stores. His Majesty should be urged to give some present remedy in this great distress. In the humble opinion of the Deputy and Council, the way to relieve his poor subjects here and give contentment were to consider of a course for the alteration of the coin, and the sooner, the better for His Highness. For now the soldiers, both horse and foot, and officers also, take all their pay in victuals out of the stores, so that little money is issued. Fearing lest the greatest mass of the new monies would be brought into the exchange, and so engrossed into His Majesty's coffers, if they received it in such quantity as the King warrants, they have been sparing to give the merchants any exchange until his pleasure be farther known. They find that the merchants sell their wares after the rate of eight for one, which is a trade of gain above all reason and not sufferable.—Dublin, 12 July 1603.

Pp. 2. Signed. Sealed. Add.: "To the Rt honorable the Lls. and others of his Mats most honorable Privy Council."

88. The King to Charles Lord Mountjoy, Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, and in his absence, to Sir George Carey, the King's Deputy there. [July 12.] Philad. P., vol. 1, p. 17.

In consideration of the long and faithful services of Robert Leycester in his employments in Ireland, and the recommendation of him by Lord Mountjoy and the Council of Ireland, to the Lords of the Council in England, a grant is to be made to him in fee farm of the site of the dissolved house of the Friars Carmelite of Kilcormick and the village of Kilduffe, in the King's County, now in his possession, for an unexpired term of years, at the ancient rent of 4l. 17s. 7½d. English, &c. And so much of other our lands as shall amount to 10l. yearly rates, to be held of our Castle of Philipstown in free soccage.

Copy. Pp. 2.

89. Earl of Ormonde to Cecil. [July 15.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 215, 80.

Has heard from his nephew Theobald Butler, and from Mr. Roche, his agent there, that he (Cecil) had begun to effect his (Ormonde's) desires touching his daughter and the continuance of his ancient house in true succession. Both he and his nephew thank him for furthering his suit to the King, till he hath granted to his nephew by letters patents what was intended in those matters by his (Ormonde's) late Sovereign.—Kilkenny, 15 July 1608.

P. 1. Signed. Add.: "To the Rt honorable the Lord Cecyll, &c."

90. Carey to Cecil. [July 16.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 215, 81.

The late Queen bestowed upon Sir John Fitz Edmonds 100 marks per annum in fee-farm of the lands in Munster, but, by reason of the trouhles and his own unwillingness to hinder the matter of the undertakers, he never reaped any benefit by her letters. He (Sir John) therefore, now moves for Cecil's assistance for renewing the grants. He has also a lease of lands, late the traitor's, James FitzThomas, now prisoner in the Tower, and doubting least any else might procure a reversion therein, he (Carey) beseeches Cecil's favour in that behalf.—Dublin, 16 July 1603.

P. 1. Signed. Add.: "To the Rt. honorable the L. Ceciall, &c."

91. The King to the Earl of Devonshire. Re Pigott. [July 30.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 215, 82.

The King commandeth Charles Earl of Devonshire to allow to the said Pigott full entertainment of 20 footmen, on account of his good desert and loss in the late wars.— Hampton Court, the 30th day of July 1603.

92. King to the Earl of Devonshire, our Lieutenant of Ireland, or in his absence, to Sir George Carey, the King's Deputy there. [July 31.] Philad. P., vol. 1, p. 1.

Warrant for a grant unto Sir James Greame, Knight, and his heirs, one of the gentlemen of the King's Privy Chamber, of the reversion of such lands as were granted by King Philip and Queen Mary to Gerald Earl of Kildare and Mabel his wife, and the heirs male of their bodies, which said heirs are all deceased, and only the said Mabel living, and the reversion after her death being in the Crown.—Hampton Court, 31 July, first of the reign.

Copy. P. 1.

[Printed in full by Erck, Calendar, p. 22.]

93. The King to the Earl of Devonshire, Lord Lieutenant. [July 31.] Docquet Book, July 31.

[Docquet for the King's letter, No. 92.]


  • 1. See post, S.P., Ireland, vol. 215, 119A.
  • 2. Sic; but it is clearly an error of the clerk.