Henry VIII: September 1542, 16-20

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September 1542, 16-20

16 Sept.
Dasent's A.P.C., 32.
798. The Privy Council.
Meeting at Havering, 16 Sept. Present : Chancellor, Sussex, Hertford, Russell, Winchester, Cheyney, Wingfield, Wriothesley, Sadler. Business :Letters written to Sergeant Hinde and the mayor of Cambridge to keep in custody certain "fellonous" persons taken at Sturbridge Fair. Letter written to the bp. of Ely for speedy redubbing of certain marsh walls broken by rage of water. Letters sent to the Great Master appointing his day to be at the Borders, and enclosing sundry letters for him to direct to such gentlemen as he wishes to attend him.
16 Sept.
Add. MS. 32,647 f. 162. R. O. Hamilton Papers, No. 163.
799. Henry VIII. to the Commissioners at York.
Yesterday, received a letter from the King of Scots by his herald Snowden (copy enclosed). As the chief point, the repair of lord Erskyn to the King, seems intended only to win time, instructs them as follows :
1. At their first meeting, after opening their instructions to the Scots, they shall declare to them, especially to lord Erskyn, that the King has received the said letter, and has appointed them his commissioners with full power to conclude all matters, within a time limited, but not to admit any delay, and therefore they require the said lord Erskyn to tell what he has to say to the King. If he tell it, they shall secretly signify it to the King; or, if not, declare that the King will answer anything which the ambassadors can propone, but, if he will by that mean seek delay, he is not to repair to the King. 2. If the Scots seem over quick in granting the conditions (which it is here thought they will not do but for the time and the advantage which the King has, the like whereof will be hard to have hereafter) directs them to insist that the pledges be six, or at least four, of great estimation, three earls and a bp. or three earls and three others, and that the ambassadors remain here till they are delivered. 3. If they proceed in their journey they must consider whether any fortresses near the Borders may be taken and fortified, without notable charge, for the enlargement of the frontier; so that, if God give them the victory, some such tokens may remain "as the Scots should by the same both know England the better and feel their force and courage somewhat abated." 4. Has heard, since their departure, that the isles of Shetland and Orkney are great "nurishes" to Scotland for bestiall and corn. They must ensearch the truth of this and what may be done in it; so as, God sending victory, they may send the Scotch ships found in Leith and the victuallers now with the King's navy, with men and munition, to prey and destroy the corn and cattle there; for, seeing the cost of this enterprise, the King would have the Scots so handled as to be sure on that side next year, when, perchance, he may be occupied, as they know, in other parts. Desires their advice in this and promises that they shall lack nothing. 5. Encloses copy of a letter to Rutland from Sir Thos. Wharton showing that the earl of Cumberland, lord Dacres and others have warned their tenants on the West Marches to wait upon them when commanded. Borderers are bound to attend the wardens at their own charge in all sudden raids, and therefore are in all Parliaments exempt from subsidies, &c. Norfolk shall order the said lords and other land owners there not to meddle with those men but by his command; for half the 600 men appointed to Suffolk should be Borderers serving at their own charge. Suffolk shall also have all workmen engaged upon fortifications, and, considering the pageants lately played by those Borderers and their natural desire of stealing, Norfolk shall do well to take as few with him as he may, especially of Tindal and Riddisdale.
Memoranda at end : Lord Erskyn, pledges, fortresses and towns, the Isles.
Draft with corrections in Wriothesley's hand, pp. 24. Endd. : Minute to my 1. of Norff., my 1. P.S., my 1. of Duresme and Sir Anthony Browne xvjo Septembr. ao xxxiiijo.
17 Sept.
Add. MS. 32,647 f. 175. B. M. Hamilton Papers, No. 164.
800. The Privy Council to Norfolk.
Received and reported to the King his letters of the 14th. Suffolk shall bring 3,000 of his men out of Lincolnshire and Warwickshire, and have the other 3,000 of the Borderers, who shall not lie in garrison or have wages, but be ready to attend him as they now do Rutland. Norfolk may take with him all inland men in the garrisons, and such Borderers as he likes, provided he leaves 2,000 at least for defence, besides workmen, counting such of the earl of Cumberland's tenants as be Borderers. Sir John Talbot is written to as he desires; and also Mr. Stanop, to let him have all horsemen of Hullshire, Holderness, Cottingham and Beverley and as many foot as he requires. 2. The King likes his opinion touching the navy, and has joined the four ships that should have gone Westward to it, so that there may be 12 warships besides victuallers, the last of which leaves on Tuesday next. 3. List of ordnance and artillery to be shipped to Berwick on Tuesday for Suffolk's furniture. 4. Of the money with Mr. Harington, 5,000l. shall be delivered to Mr. Wodall to pay Suffolk's 3,000 men and his own diets, after the rate in a schedule enclosed. If by this division of Suffolk's band, Cumberland has no men in wages to attend him, Norfolk shall assign him a convenient number considering that he goes not out of the realm.
Draft in Wriothesley's hand, pp. 5. Endd. : Minute to my 1. of Norff. xvijo Septembr. ao xxxiiijo.
Harl. MS. 6,989 f. 93. B. M. 2. Original letter of which the foregoing is the draft. Dated Havering, 17 Sept. Signed by Sussex, Hertford, Winchester, and Wriothesley.
Pp. 3. Add. : Lieutenant-general in the North Parts. Endd. : Ebor., 19 Sept.
17 Sept.
R. O.
801. Wallop to the Council.
Has verified what he wrote of Mons. de Bees having mustered 500 footmen to reinforce his garrison of Bullen, and that to Muttrell and Turwan should go as many, and 300 footmen come to Arde, making there 900, and, with the bands of Mons. de Crequey and Mons. Torsey, 100 men of arms. The same night came 300 footmen to Fyennes, bruiting that all castles and peels thereabouts should be furnished. Hearing that the Great Master had left these frontiers for Luxemburghe, conceived that they meant to overthrow the vaults of the travers wall and gatehouse now making here, and therefore took precautions (described) against surprise. Thinks now that that is not their enterprise, for he hears that the 500 men gathered at Fyennes shall repair to Mons. d'Orleance and the 2,000 enfants de Paris (who were with Vandosme and returned to Paris) are re-assembled and repairing to Mons. d'Orleance, doubting the coming of the Regent's power against him under the Great Master, the prince of Orrenge and Mons. de Bure, to the number of 30,000 foot, 6,000 horse and a great number of lanceknights from the Electors of Allemaygne.
Mons. de Crequey and the footmen of Arde issued out next morning after his coming, and took Froylande castle, beside Tournehem, wherein were 60 peasants. This assembly seems to be to take such peels of little strength thereabouts. Mons. de Beez has not stirred from Bullen. Mons. de Foxall was there, the castle being within three miles of his house. Hears to-day that De Beez feared a descent of Englishmen, having counted at least 40 ships passing towards Calais, whereupon divers of Base Bullen fled up into the town with their coffers. Stand in doubt; but the Frenchmen are in most fear, for they both fear the Emperor's power and doubt us. Orleans is retired to the Court, and his camp broken up. Of his Clevoiez 6,000 shall winter about Amyaz. He made the more haste to break up his camp at the approach of the Regent's power.
Reminds them of the need here of pikes and demi-hawks. Guisnes, 17 Sept. Signed.
P.S.This afternoon Mons. de Crequey went from Arde to Bullen and most of his horsemen lie beside Rentye.
Pp. 3. Add. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo. Beneath the address is written, "The felowe at Calays."
18 Sept.
Dasent's A.P.C., 33.
802. The Privy Council.
The entry for 17 Sept., at Havering, records no attendance or business.
Meeting at Havering, 18 Sept. Present : Canterbury, Chancellor, Sussex, Hertford, Winchester, Gage, Wriothesley. Business :Whereas the lord President of the Welsh Council imprisoned two inhabitants of Ludlow for lewd words about him, and referred their further order to the Privy Council; letters were sent to him that, as the matter was not great, he should content himself with the imprisonment, and with a good lesson release them.
18 Sept.
Cott. Appx. XXVII. 113. B. M.
803. Gardiner to Thomas Smith.
It was a pleasure in the midst of most weighty affairs to read his little book (fn. 1) and so learn more of him than could be seen in a brief colloquy, for Qualis est homo, talis, oratio. Smith thinks him sarcastic (dicax), and he will not argue the matter; for it is not of himself but by virtue of his office that he issues edicts more severe, perhaps, than the thing requires if the state of the times did not demand it. Out of friendship for Cheke, Smith seizes every occasion to find fault with the writer's words. Explains that he has not acted on the advice of others but on his own judgment. Does not deny that the present pronunciation of Greek differs from the ancient. Does not say it should be used because it is right, but that because it is used it is right to use it. Throws doubts upon the validity of the arguments used by Cheke and him, and shows the unreasonableness of their request. Erasmus, when Philip Melancthon, a young man prone to innovations, wrote to him about expelling Scotus and all scholastic theology, answered like a prudent man that he would deliberate about changing scholastic theology when there was a better to substitute for it. Enjoys his letters and the eloquence of his style, but is not influenced by words, for in study it almost follows that where there is most show there is least judgment. The profession he has taken up, the law, demands the whole man, and Gardiner sees in him a talent which promises great things if it is not hindered by trifles of this kind.
"Itaque vale, et sonorum causam, quam primus (ut ais) turbasti maturiore judicio cures ita quiescere ut ego prudenter edixisse, alii utiliter paruisse videantur. Ex Aula, xviijo Septemb. Steph. Winton., Cancellarius."
Lat. Copy, pp. 9. Begins : Inter gravissimas occupationes, Smethe, libellum tuum libuit perlegere.
18 Sept.
Add. MS. 32,647 f. 194. B. M. Hamilton Papers, No. 170(1).
804. Sir Geo. Lawson to [Norfolk].
In pursuance of Norfolk's letter to Mr. Captain, informs him that there are no tents of the King's in these parts. A crayer came to Berwick last week from Mr. Woodehouse with 50 qr. wheat, 50 qr. rye and 60 qr. barley, and two small crayers are come to Aylemouth with corn, but no other ships, nor is the wheat come to Newcastle. Has, as he wrote by Thos. Gower, 100 qr. wheat meal and 200 qr. malt ready to bake and brew, and only 300 barrels and 300 pair of costrelles to tun it in, so that there will be great lack of foists. There is no millage in Berwick for wheat, which has to be sent to the mills in the country. It is impossible to prepare so much bread against Norfolk's day appointed, but he will do his best and desires to have a man sent to view what is done. Has set workmen to prepare 100 spears, and sent to Newcastle for spear heads. Trusts to provide 20 or 40 bullocks and 100 wethers against Norfolk's coming. Berwick, 18 Sept.
Pp. 2. Begins : "Please it your Grace."
19 Sept.
Dasent's A.P.C., 33.
805. The Privy Council.
Meeting at Havering, 19 Sept. Present : Canterbury, Chancellor, Sussex, Hertford, Winchester, Gage, Wriothesley. Business :Whereas Sir Thos. Butlar, being arrested for a debt to Robt. Low, was rescued by sundry persons, notably Benedict Killegrew; it was thought a good punishment to send Killegrew, at his own cost, to York to recover the debt from Butlar, now there; and letters were devised to the lord Privy Seal, declaring this order, and a placard for Killegrew to take up post horses.
19 Sept.
Kaulek, 463. (The whole text.)
806. Marillac to Francis I.
His last of the 13th (sic) will show how all the war preparation was, for the season, turned against the king of Scotland. This is to confirm that news, which is daily more evident. As to the number of men sent Northwards, has seen an extract showing that they will be 120,000, of whom the half should be assembled at Neufchastel, 60 miles from Scotland, on the 25th inst., from whence part of them under Norfolk will draw to Berwick, and the rest under the lord Privy Seal go towards Carlin, to invade the enemy on two sides at once. The rest under the duke of Suffoc and lord of Chesne (who as yet does not stir from the places where he made the musters) is reserved to take the place of the first armies if they fortune to be broken, or to join them on the 10th of next month if the enemies prove too strong or too strongly posted. As to the army by sea, all this King's ships, about 20, have sailed except six, which will remain in this river, and with those of some lords and merchants which are taken for service, it is reckoned that they will have 25 of 200 tons and over, and 40 of 100 tons and under (? en ban), the one to fight and the other to carry victuals and munitions, of which marvellous quantities are laden. Moreover the English think to harass their enemy from the side of Ireland by means of a great number of savages, which are near those of Scotland, for it is only 7 or 8 leagues across from one isle to the others, of which Irish savages, the greatest and finest lord and captain, who all his life had made war on the English, called the Great O'Neil, three or four days ago came to surrender to this King, making homage and oath of service, and promising a great force against his enemies. But the ambassador of Scotland, who had heard how the said lord of O'Neil was coming, told Marillac he had no fear for that respect, for the Irish could do nothing except against their (the Scots') savages, whom they think to be amply sufficient to resist them, and, besides that, nothing could be gained there but blows. However, without being aided by the Irish, it has not been seen within the memory of man or in the chronicles of England since the Conquest that such a force has been put in the field; and evidently they do not wish to go there twice, but rather at this once intend to make the king of Scotland so little a lord that he will never have power to do them harm; of which they hold themselves as sure as if they had come to an agreement with God to have the victory in their own way. The king of Scotland is already warned of all; and has prepared to resist with all his might those who are counting upon entirely destroying him. It is true that now is the time of the parley at York, but it is thought that the English have no great will to propose a reasonable agreement, nor the Scots to accept their amity at the conditions for which they would sell it. Hopes within a few days to report the resolution, either peace or war.
French. Headed; [London,] 19 Sept. Marked as sent by Jehan de Bologne.
19 Sept.
Add. MS. 32,647 f. 182, B. M. Hamilton Papers, No. 167.
807. Commissioners at York to Henry VIII.
On the 18th, met the Scottish ambassadors, viz., the bp. of Orkeneye, the lord Erskyn and Mr. James Larmonthe, late ambassador with the King, who arrived on the 17th. Showed their commission and the ambassadors showed theirs, which only gave power for injuries to be reformed and the former amity continued. Refused that and another like it, as more meet for the wardens of the Borders than for such a meeting; whereupon the ambassadors produced a third conferring ample powers. Reminded them of the King's love ever shown for his nephew; which had not been requited, but the promised interview broken, the King's houses burned at Bewcastle, the Fenwicks slain, &c., and asked what they demanded. They answered, a perpetual peace. Said their master should in friendly manner restore all prisoners lately taken, with horse and gear, as the best way to mollify the King. Found them appliable, saying there should be no sticking at that if other things were agreed. Replied that if it came not of a frank heart, but by agreement, it were much less thankworthy, and that we would (if we were his counsellors) advise their master to deliver the prisoners, who were not persons the King much regarded; for, if not, the King had made such preparation that cruel war might ensue. After consulting long together, they answered that, of late, Rosse herald had shown the King that their master would deliver them upon his word or writing desiring it : they had no special instructions but dare agree that, other matters passing, there should be no sticking at that. Replied that, as for word or writing, it was enough that they, the commissioners, showed that the King would have them restored; and desired their final answer. They asked what further points should be communed of, for on this point there would be no disagreement, they should be restored without ransom. On that said their commission to enter ligam defensivam et offensivam showed the frankness of the King's affection, but there could be no true amity if one could damage the other, and therefore, if they would join in a perfect amity, neither might make war upon the other at the request of another prince. They began to say they had old leagues with France which they might not break. Replied, so had we, but if the Emperor or French king broke with us it were not reason that they should do the same at another prince's request. Touched at length upon their detaining traitors and sticking at the last meeting of commissioners for the bounds of the realms, whereto they made long discourse like that reported at the time by the King's commissioners, and said that matter was too small to stick at. Touched also how, after the departing of those commissioners, they immediately began to make excurses, burnings and slaughters; and here we stuck that they began, on the 4th, and they that we began, on the 7th July. And so departed for that night.
This morning the ambassadors said that to make an amity otherwise than the first, they must refer to their master, and showed his signed instructions that if they made a new amity it must be conformable to the old, where mention is made that they should not leave the amity of France, but they knew their master would for no prince living break with the King, whom he esteemed above all; and as for attemptates, breaches or prisoners, they were but trifles, for surely their master was "chiefly given" to join with the King. Asked why then would he not come to the King upon his promise last year (which had silenced such matters for ever) and yet might do if a meeting were shortly held? They answered that they would send to their master with all haste, and were sure they should have commission and instructions to conclude both amity and meeting. Said they could not protract the time unless the ambassadors took short day to make resolute answer; also, provided the meeting were concluded, unless hostages were given, they could not defer the King's preparations, naming the greatest of Scotland, as Argyle, Huntley and Arran, to come hither in post. At this they were marvellously perplexed, saying their nobles are so suspicious and fearful; they would themselves lie here as hostages, and what their master promised under his great seal he would not for all his realm break, but it was easier to induce him to come himself in post than to induce some of his noblemen, who were never out of his realm, to come to England. And here they began "to swear blood, wounds, nails, body and passion of Christ, both the Bishop and other, that they dissembled not," but would venture their lives, which were as dear to them as life is to any earl in their country. They thought that before Christmas was time convenient, and would write for commission to conclude the amity and meeting, and lie themselves as hostages. Here the commissioners stuck that the King would have earls for hostages, which they promised to write for but were desperate to obtain, "more for the untowardness of their people, being wild, than of their master." "Dilated" to them how the French king put in hostages to the King for like purpose. They promised answer in six days, and seem anxious to have it brought to pass and to proceed unfeignedly. York, 19 Sept. Signed : T. Norfolk : W. Southampton : Cuth. Duresme : Antone Browne.
Pp. 11. Add. Sealed. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
19 Sept.
Add. MS. 32,647 f. 189. B. M. Hamilton Papers, No. 168.
808. Commissioners at York to the Council.
Need not write of their conferences with the Scottish ambassadors; The King did wisely to defer their going to Newcastle for eight days; for there is yet no word of the arrival of the ships with victual at Newcastle or Berwick. Have deferred such as come from Lancashire, Cheshire, Notts, Derby, Staffordshire and this shire, to be at Newcastle 7 Oct. Sooner they could not get victual to pass beyond Newcastle. There are not foists to put beer in to suffice the army four days. The enclosed bill from Sir G. Lawson shows there are but three brewhouses in Berwick, and one of these is not ready, nor the best cannot brew above 10 or 11 quarters at a time. Of Norfolk's men 2,200 will come to Holy Island with the first wind. Their lordships may consider what these will consume and what shall remain to furnish the army for eight days.
Yesternight arrived Sir John Harrington with word from Rutland that Northumberland was never so out of order with spoils and robberies. Rutland can get no service, except from Robt. Colingwode, John Horsley, Gilbert Swynowe and, sometime, John Car, and says the country is marvellously changed since he last was warden there. (fn. 2) The provision Norfolk first sent is all spent, beer cannot be got here or in Hull or Newcastle, nor cask to carry it, there is no word of the ships laden with grain and cheese in Norfolk and Suffolk, nor of the two ships with wheat bought of Sir John Gresham, nor of the ships of war out of Thames. The five ships of war wherein are Jennyns and others were, within these three days, riding at Ravons Sporne, as Stanhope says, awaiting the rest out of Thames, and so have missed taking the Scottish Danske fleet. Have advertised Suffolk of the delay that may likewise protract time. Would be glad to hear any news from beyond sea. York, 19 Sept., 6 p.m. Signed : T. Norffolk : W. Southampton : Cuth. Duresme : Antone Browne.
Pp. 3. Add. Sealed. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
19 Sept.
Add. MS. 32,647 f. 180. B. M. Hamilton Papers, No. 166.
809. Southampton to Wriothesley.
Needs not write what they have written to the King and Council. Learns by Norfolk and the advertisements of Mr. Lawson and report of Mr. Harington, who arrived yesternight from my lord of Rutland, that Norfolk's first provision is almost spent, because the country has not grain enough to make bread and drink for the garrisons there already. Prays God to put it in the King's head to appoint them a further day to arrive at Newcastle. Speaks of the lack of casks, mills and brewhouses at Berwick, Newcastle, York and Hull (the ships victualled at Hull have taken all casks that could be gotten), and foresees great lack, unless provisions come from London in time. York, 19 Sept. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
19 Sept.
R. O.
810. Wallop to the Council.
Wrote in his last of levies made to be put in garrisons, how Mons. de Crequey had taken Froylande, and the opinion that the gathering was to take peels and castles, and so clear the valley betwixt Arde and St. Omez, and so to Muttrell; no longer mistrusting the travers wall and vaults here. Most of the levies are retired home. An espial reports that Mons. de Crequey is retired past Boullen and Muttrell and Rew, and that their coming was to overrun the King's pale and spoil the country, as they did about Tourneham and Mountorey; which should have been done if letters had not come from the French king to Mons. de Beez. Heard yesterday, by another way, that their plan was to have entered the pale in three places, De Beez by the sea side, De Crequey on the other side, and the governor of Fyennes in the midst. Thinks that, upon sight of the ships which De Beez saw, if any men had landed he would have taken the advantage they "have been wont to do." If the King means to do anything hitherward this year begs for early notice of it that the poor subjects may save their cattle; and proposes a scheme for the garrison of Calais to "prevent" the French, by a raid in their country of which they could safely spoil a great part. Could make 2,000 footmen, to meet whom all Boullonoiez could not make a sufficient number in two days, whereas the enterprise could be done in six or seven hours. The thing to be doubted is their men of arms, of whom they have more than we can make; but they are not always together. If anything is to be done this year, and Wallop gets no notice in time, the country will be spoiled. Yesterday his espial met two friars coming from Bullen, who said De Beez was in their house at mass on Thursday last, and there was good news that there should be peace between their King and the King of England; for such letters came of late to Mons. de Beez, but before they were much afraid. Knows that De Beez said fearfully, eight days ago, that the peace was not so good as he thought. Prays God to continue that fear in all Frenchmen, "for it is much given them by nature." Guisnes, 19 Sept. Signed.
Pp. 3. Add. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
20 Sept.
Dasent's A.P.C., 34.
811. The Privy Council.
Meeting at Havering, 20 Sept. Present : Canterbury, Chancellor, Sussex, Russell, Winchester, Gage, Wriothesley, Riche. Business : Recognisance of Wm. Allester, of Derby, to appear quindena Michaelis, and bring with him Smith. Certain wheat purchased of Sir John Gresham for provision of Berwick being wrecked about Yarmouth, commission was sent to the bailiffs of Yarmouth and Caister to endeavour to recover as much as possible of the ship and wheat.
[20 Sept.]
Rutland Papers. (Hist. MS. Com.) I.30.
812. J. Chaworth to the Countess Of Rutland.
His Grace of Norfolk at Lincoln, appointed all Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire should attend upon my lord of Shrewsbury and my lord of Rutland, saying that they should both be in battle and go together. Thought that all Notts, gentlemen should have gone with my lord of Rutland without further request, but has since heard that most of them went with Shrewsbury. As Rutland is not in these parts, advises her write to the captains of Notts, desiring them, on coming into the North, to repair to Rutland's retinue. They set forward to-morrow or Friday, I setting forward his men. To-morrow she shall know the conclusion of the Council at York. The Notts, captains who go under the King are Sir John Wylloughby's brother, Sir John Byron, Sir Brian Stapylton's son and heir, John Mering of Mering, John Hercy of Grove, John Babington of Rampton, and Ant. Nowell of Mattersey. All these were at home on Monday last. Wednesday.
20 Sept.
Add. MS. 32,647 f. 193. B. M. Hamilton Papers, No. 170.
813. Commissioners at York to the Council.
Enclose letters just received. Sir Geo. Lawson's shows how little of the victual prepared in Norfolk, Suffolk and London is arrived, and that there is no knowledge of the ships of war, although the wind on Saturday, Sunday, and Monday last was as fair as could blow, and now with the rain yesterday, is so contrary that no man can come northward. My lord Privy Seal does not sign this, because he has been ill all night, which we think is for melancholy because the victual ships are not arrived, and that we are like to lack bread and drink at Berwick, for lack of foists and mills to grind wheat. It is impossible to invade Scotland or even pass Newcastle without victual, although "never men would more gladly accomplish the intended journey than we would." York, 20 Sept., 9 a.m. Signed by Norfolk, Durham, and Browne.
P. 1. Add. Sealed. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
20 Sept.
Shrewsb. MS. A. f. 79. Coll. of Arms. Lodge, I. 42.
814. Norfolk to Shrewsbury.
As the King's ships laden for Berwick and Newcastle, with victual for the army in Scotland, are not arrived yet (and when they do arrive six days will be required to put things in order) he shall defer his setting forth for six days, and be with his men at Newcastle, 7 Oct. next. Enclosed proclamations to be addressed by him for that delay. Understands that he desires conduct money and coat money. Sir John Harrington, who is treasurer of the wars, arrived this morning, but has not yet received the money. York, 20 Sept.
Send not for the money till Friday week, but keep your men that come from far with you, and their charges shall be allowed from the day of their setting forth.
20 Sept.
Add. MS. 32,647 f. 191. B. M. Hamilton Papers, No. 169.
815. Rutland and Others to Norfolk.
On Monday last, according to the King's commandment, kept a day of truce at Hexpeth Gate, where the officers of the Middle Marches of both realms met, but little was done because the Scottishmen complained of had not been warned, and so another meeting is appointed for Tuesday next. Lord Sesford, warden of the Middle Marches of Scotland, Mark Carre, and other Scots were present. Mark Carre's words to Robt. Collingwood, and certain communications with John Bedenall, appear in schedules sent herewith. Alnwick, 20 Sept.
P.S.Received yesterday Norfolk's letters of 17 Sept. Signed : Thomas Rutland : John Latymere : John Markham : Jo. Uvedale.
P. 1. Add. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.


  • 1. No. 611.
  • 2. He was warden of the East and Middle marches in the year 1522.