Henry VIII: October 1546, 1-5

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Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 21 Part 2, September 1546-January 1547. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1910.

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October 1546, 1-5

201. William Berners to Sir John Williams.
R. O. I have deputed my friend James Jeskyn, gentleman, this bringer, to receive for me such money as the King gives me as one of his commissioners for the survey of his lands in Bollonoys and his affairs here. I beg therefore that you will pay the said James from time to time accordingly. Bulloigne, the. . . . . . . .anno 38 Hen. VIII. Signature lost.
In Berners' hand, p. 1. Slightly mutilated. Add.: treasurer of Augmentations.
1 Oct. 202. The King's Privy Alms.
R. O. Receipt by Doctor Cox of 20l. from Sir Thos. Hennege to be employed upon the King's privy alms for the month. 1 Oct., 38 Hen. VIII. "By me Ric. Cox."
Hol., p. 1.
2. Three similar receipts, each for 20l., from Sir Antony Denney, dated 1 Nov., 1 Dec. and 1 Jan. 38 Hen. VIII.
Each hol., p. 1.
1 Oct. 203. The Council in London to Paget.
R. O. As commanded, spoke yesterday with Guron, and, reminding him of his declaration and the King's answer, told him that, as it was two months and more since he had access, his long tarrying gave rise to talking which was not expedient; and, as the King would never "give ear to anything that might seem in any wise to touch his policy, which his Majesty and all his realms and dominions will for ev[er], as they justly may by God's law, maintain [in] every part," he should depart incontinently without going or sending to Court, or communicating the cause of his repair to anyone. The man was wonderfully abashed, saying that he was the King's old servant and never would have presumed to speak of this matter but that, coming from the French king, "he had grace to say his charge," and "as to the Bishop, had he once declared his answer, he would never abide with him nor serve him, but go to his country and live with his wife and children." He had opened his charge only to such as the King appointed, although men might discourse their "fantazies," knowing that he came from Rome. Comforted him by saying that the King's resolution proceeded not in respect of him, but of the matter he brought, "tending, as it were, to an assault of our whole state and policy"; and promised his passport to-morrow. Told him that the King would not return him again to the French king, who however was privy to all by his ambassador. He expressed a wish to come again as the King's servant, and also that he might have passport for five or six horses. He will now depart on receipt of such passport as you procure him; and it should be known whether the King will give him any reward, having given him audience, "as princes do in th'extremest cases." Will this day declare their proceedings to the French ambassador.
The ships depart within three days, furnished with a spare vessel. Westm., 1 Oct. Signed by Wriothesley and St. John.
P.S. in St. John's hand.—We know lord Newill's being in the Fleet by the suits of divers persons to speak with him; all which we refuse until we know the cause and the King's pleasure.
In Wriothesley's hand, pp. 3. Add. Endd.: 1546.
1 Oct. 204. Vaughan to Henry VIII.
R. O. Yesternight came letters from Spire that the Emperor and the Protestants have fought, and 50,000 men are slain. The letters were written in such haste that the writer forgot to signify "on whether side the victory fell."
Has paid the Fugger all money due 15 Aug. last, and delivered him the new obligation of London of 60,000l. Fl. and odd, with the King's confirmation of the same, receiving again all the old obligations and his Highness' seals upon them. There is also paid to two others (fn. n1) 15,000l. Fl. due in September. And now, until February next, remains due only 6,000l. Fl. to John Carolo on the 15th inst. and a small sum appointed to be paid to sundry merchants strangers for valued gold and provision. Andwerp, 1 Oct. 1546.
Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd.
1 Oct. 205. Vaughan to Paget.
R. O. Writes to the King how the armies of the Emperor and Protestants fought on 21 Sept., and 50,000 men are slain. The Fugger is paid, and Vaughan has his general acquittance and all the obligations and seals. Jeronimo Dyodati is paid 9,000l. Fl., and John Balbani 6,000l. Fl.; and now remains unpaid only 6,000l. Fl. to John Carolo on the 15th inst. To-day, pays all the merchants strangers for their valued gold and provision, and then returns homewards. Andwerp, 1 Oct.
Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd.: 1546.
1 Oct. 206. Vaughan to Lord Cobham.
Harl. MS.
283 f. 229
B. M.
I send bearer with letters to Sir Wm. Paget, secretary; and, as he promises to be with you to-morrow night, please write me by him whether he keep promise, and "send them to the Court with great diligence, for they be weighty." By the next you shall hear great news out of Almain, for this night comes a post from the Emperor's army. Within ten days I trust to be at Calles. Andwerp, 1 Oct.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: deputy of Calais.
1 Oct. 207. Chamberlain to Paget.
R. O. Thanks for your "remembrance of me now in my absence, committing unto me the charge of Mr. Vaughan, he being revoked; wherein hitherto Mr. Damesell and I have done such diligence as appertained." We have fully paid the Fugger and the factors of Bonvici and Vivalde, as appears by our letters to the Council, and have begun to pay John Carlo the sum which shall be due to him on the 15th inst. News here are so variable that I dare scarcely write them; but the common bruit is that Emperor and Protestants have "come to parliament."
Please send me "your armes with the creste for your harthes of chymentis that you gave me by remembraunce." Almighty Jesu long continue you with my good lady in health and honour. Andwarpe, 1 Oct. 1546.
Hol., pp. 2. Add. Endd.
1 Oct. 208. Thirlby to Mont.
R. O. I received your letters of 27 Oct. (sic) on the 28th, and have written to Mr. Paget your diligence in sending me the other letters for the release of the bowstaves. Of our wars I can write nothing to you. Your man whom I return with a packet of letters to Mr. Paget (which pray get conveyed speedily) will tell part of our miseries here. If Goldenfinger had, as he promised, accompanied me here in these wars or remained at Norrinberge, I would have answered your former letters and put you to some pains to convey my letters into England. Now pray take order with M. Sebalde Gendre that I may send letters to him for you. Camp by Lawgengen, 1 Oct.
Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd.: The bishoppe of Westm. to Mr. Monte. Octobr. 1546.
1 Oct. 209. Charles V. and the Scots.
R. O.
[R.T. 149
f. 240.]
News from Hamburg 25 Sept. 1546. That Lady Mere, otherwise called Maria, has proclaimed open war between the Emperor and the Scots, which means that the poor fishermen of Holland and Zealand must purchase passports from her for security against the Scots, who since summer have captured many Hollanders upon the sea, and detained the men in Scotland (fn. n2) and in France; but they have not dared do anything to the Scots for it. It will be said that Lady Mary and the King of Scotland (frau Maria unnd Konig venn Schotlandt) have agreed together to damage their own subjects. The French King has men assembled who will invade the Emperor's patrimony when the Princes get the upper hand in Germany. While yet, with his son the Dauphin, in league with the Emperor he will endeavour to sever the Duke of Cleves from the Emperor by delivering him the King of Navarre's sister (sic), who was formerly betrothed to him, and thus prevent his marriage with King Ferdinand's daughter.
News from the camp of 26 Sept. and from Zwickau of 1 Oct. 1546.
German. Modern transcript, pp. 4.
2 Oct. 210. Sir Thomas Moyle to Paget.
R. O. When last with Paget, made suit for bearer, Anthony Smith. Paget will by favouring him win a very honest servant. Bulloign, 2 Oct.
Hol., p. 1. Add. Sealed. Endd.: 1546.
2 Oct. 211. Privy Council of Scotland.
Regist., 43. Meeting at St. Andrews, 2 Oct. Present: bps. of Dunkeld and Moray, earls of Angus, Argyle and Bothwell, postulate of Ross, Sir Adam Otterburn, Sir Wm. Hamilton, Clerk Register. Business:— Commissioners to be sent to England to offer acceptance of the comprehension in the treaty between France and England "efter the forme of the articulis send thairupon with Monsieur de Mandoise" and to conclude a peace and abstinence from war; and, if the King of England will not accept it thus, one of them to have commission to pass to the king of France and require that, in case the King of England make war on this realm, he will defend it.
3 Oct. 212. The Council with the King to the Council in London.
R. O. Enclose signed instructions for the ships now going towards St. Andrews, which the King wishes despatched with diligence as the season goes fast away; also a passport for the Staplers' 1,000l., with blank for the name of him who shall carry it, and the passport for Goron. As to Lord Nevile, I the Secretary, have advertised you by Mr. Hunnynges of his unnatural enterprise, but the King would not have him much spoken with until his counsellors, Nynyan Melven and Geo. Staff., are apprehended, for which letters have been written to my lord President in the North.
As to Ireland matters, Ormond shall have the prize wines if his title is found good; and if not he shall, for his estimation, have them during his life; "and as for the president and council at Lymyrik his Majesty giveth place to your opinions and prayeth you to appoint the despatch thereof." St. Patrick's college and the college of the Holy Crosse, co. Kilkenny, shall be suppressed without delay, and my lord Deputy speak (as he hath done (fn. n3) this afternoon) with the Chancellor of the Augmentations for the order used in England in such cases; "which expedition his Majesty maketh lest that his profit decay by delay therein." He will have the plate of both to his own use and bestow the ornaments according to your device, unless there chance to be any notable piece among them.
ii. (fn. n4) His Majesty's further pleasure is that private suits concerning Ireland which may be passed there shall be inserted in the commission or warrant which you devise for the Chancellor or keeper of the Great Seal there; "which private suits shall appear unto you herewith, signed with our hands (altered from "my hand") in such sort as his Majesty hath granted them" and the residue meet to be passed here shall be ordered. We send a supplication of one ––––– (blank). Pray speak with the French ambassador for his relief.
Draft, pp. 3, the first two pages in Paget's hand. Written in Paget's name and altered to the plural throughout. Endd.: M. to the Counsaill at Lond. from the Counsaill here, iijo Octobr. 1546.
3 Oct. 213. Sadler to Paget.
R. O. Sending his servant to Court to know when the King will be at Hampton Court or Westminster, thinks it his part to write commendations to Paget and my Lady, not forgetting Mr. Peter. If there be any news whereof poor men may partake, begs Paget to command Nicasius to write it. Good wishes for Paget, my Lady and "all your little ones." Stonden, 3 Oct.
Hol., p. 1. Endd.: Sir Rafe Sadleyr to Mr. Seer Mr. Paget, iijo October, 1546.
3 Oct. 214. Carne to the Council.
R. O. In pursuance of your letters of the 17th to Mr. Rede and me, we have procured the Lady Regent's letters to the "tollieners" of Andwarpe and Zelande for the observation of the merchants' privileges granted by Duke Philip. This Council, hearing of Mr. Rede's return, willed their commissaries to answer our general griefs before he left; whereunto we have delivered our reply to the commissaries, as Mr. Rede can report. The Lady Regent is advertised that the Emperor has taken Nuburge, where was all the Landgrave's provision of victuals and munition; but as yet she has no advertisement thereof from the Emperor. Bruxelles, 3 Oct. 1546. Signed.
P. 1. Add. Endd.
3 Oct. 215. Carne to Paget.
R. O. Since his letter of 30 Sept. has come no certainty of any battle or other occurrents; only the Lady Regent is advertised (cannot learn from whence) that the Emperor has taken the town (fn. n5) wherein all the Landgrave's provision lay, taking the Zuysses within it to mercy. The President seemed loth that Mr. Rede should depart when their commissioners were not sent for thence, but the Lady Regent was "very gentle." Bruxelles, 3 Oct. 1546. Signed.
P. 1. Add. Endd.
3 Oct. 216. John Dymock to Paget.
R. O. On 27 Sept. received his letter and one from the Council dated 2 Sept., having had none for 10 weeks before. The Council's letter commands him to come home when his business is done, but he cannot pass through the Emperor's Basse Country, having been unjustly commanded to come no more there on pain of losing body and goods, and he would be loth to come home by water. Has done nothing to deserve this treatment, as Paget knows by certifications sent from the town of Dorte. As the two men with whom he had to deal at Brame were to be absent three weeks, has been at Hamboroch, hoping, by Courte Penyncke, to get news of the Emperor and the Corvoste and Lantgrave. In three weeks no news came until the morrow after Michaelmas, when Courte Penyncke had a letter from Celle in Brownyswycke declaring that the Countie of Beures was taken prisoner with 600 gentlemen, and had 9,000 of his men slain. "And this should have done the earl of Oldenborch, the duke of Wirtesborech and a captain named Ratelynge, belonging to the town of Awesborech." Courte Penyncke offered to serve the Lantgrave, but has received word to sit still a while and he shall be employed another way. Came again to Brame on 2 Oct., where the borowe masters have word that it is true that the Countie of Beures is taken, his men overthrown and Mons. Brebanson slain, also that two servants of the French king are in the land of Brwnyswycke, "the which are about for to take up men, for what intent I can not tell." Here in every parish church the preacher warns men to take heed whom they lodge, for the Pope and Emperor have sent out 600 or 700 men to poison wells and beasts in the fields and lay wild fire in houses and towns belonging to the Protestants; "which is an ungodly thing if it be true, but it is true that the preachers have declared it in the pulpit in every parish church, and also set forth in print and set upon every church door. I pray God amend them that are the causers of this troublous world. I pray God that there be no such holy fathers within the realm of England." Sends a little book in Latin, given him by one of the lords of Hamboroch, which declares a great part of the business between the Emperor and the Lantgrave. In haste, 3 Oct. 1546.
Hol., pp. 3. Add. Endd.
4 Oct. 217. Sir Julian Romero.
See Grants in October, No. 17.
4 Oct. 218. Wriothesley to —
R. O. Whereas you were commissioned to determine a matter between Wm. Gresling, of London, grocer, and Alvise de Sionani, purser of the ship of Foscharin called Sancta Maria, concerning 18 pieces of Cornish tin which Gresling had laden in her, and have awarded that Sionani shall be discharged of the said goods unless they come to his hands hereafter, and that Gresling shall be paid by James Foscarina and Victor Correr, Venetians, now in London, partners, as appears by a certain award now exhibited by the said Corer: This shall be to require you to take further order that, upon "allowance and deduction of the said ship and goods for the costs and charges of the said James and Victor sustained about the recovery thereof," the rest shall be divided to Gresling and other who had goods therein. Ely Place, 4 Oct. 1546. Signature copied.
P. 1. Endd.: "The copy of my lorde Chanselars lettar afterward to the commyssyonars. Gryslyng."
4 Oct. 219. Vaughan to Paget.
R. O. Knows not why Chr. Haller, the bearer, goes now into England, but guesses that he goes not "in vain." It may be to entreat recompense for a bargain for the emprunture of 60,000 cr. which Vaughan failed to perform because the persons promised to be bound here for the repayment utterly refused to be bound, and Haller would not take the others offered in lieu of them; the money meanwhile remaining in his hands profitless. Or it may be that Haller and Lazarus Ducker, who preceded Jasper Dowche as a financial counsellor to the Emperor, and is a man of great substance and Haller's patron, would "plant some of their things there till the tempest now falling in Almayn be overpast." Haller has ever gently used me, although often reminding me of my breach of promise, and lately he feasted me, Mr. Governor and Mr. Damesell, with great cheer; wherefore it may please you and my lord Chancellor to entertain him gently. He could provide any sum up to 100,000 cr., and has always seemed well affected to the King's service. No man here has larger advertisements out of Almayn; 30 that by him you may know how things go there. Within these 8 days I depart homewards. Andwerp, 4 Oct.
Hol., pp. 2. Add. Endd.: 1546.
4 Oct. 220. Pole to the Marchioness of Pescara.
v. No. 409.
Answers a message by our Lilio (or Lelio) with apologies for his remissness in making some return for her benefits. Enjoys his stay at this house of Card. Bembo's where are two things in which he always delighted, a study and a garden. Had written thus far when he heard with great distress that she had been ill since August. Padua, 4 Oct. 1546.
5 Oct. 221. The Privy Council.
A. P. C.
Meeting at Windsor, 5 Oct. Present: Chancellor, Great Master, Privy Seal, Great Chamberlain, Winchester, Browne, Gage, Paget, Petre. Business:—Licence to Sir Nic. Strelly, captain of Berwick castle, to repair hither.
5 Oct. 222. Sir Peter Gamboa and other Spaniards.
See Grants in October, Nos. 18-21.
5 Oct. 223. Selve to Francis I.
No. 39.
Received yesterday, very late, the despatches of the 27th and 29th, and has this morning sent to Windsor for audience. Was sent for, on Saturday last, by the Chancellor and Great Master, in the Chancellor's house, who said they were commissioned to inform him that their master, for Francis' sake, two months ago received into the realm the Seigneur Grono, servant of the Bishop of Rome, whose long sojourn here might give an impression that some alteration or innovation was intended and so cause trouble; the King would therefore dismiss him, being resolved to make no change, and wished Francis, as his good brother, to be informed of this. Replied that friendship alone induced Francis to send the gentleman, who in France had shown a great regard for the King of England; and asked whether the gentleman had conducted his mission discreetly, and whether the answer which ought to come to him from Rome should be communicated to them when it came. The reply was that the gentleman had conducted himself very well, but already it was being openly said that this King was about to agree with the Pope, and such dangerous bruits might engender some outbreak. They promised to write to their King about the matter of the answer (i.e. from Rome).
Eight ships and a galley are being equipped for Scotland. London, Tuesday, 5 Oct. 1546.
5 Oct. 224. Selve to the Admiral.
No. 40.
Received last night the Admiral's despatches of 25 and 29 Sept., with the letter addressed to the Baron de la Garde, who had already left. News here is that the Emperor, having joined Mons. de Bures, has defeated the Landgrave; the Emperor's ambassador is said to have certain news. London, Tuesday, 5 Oct.
5 Oct. 225. Garrisons in the North.
R. O. Indenture, made 5 Oct. 38 Hen. VIII, between Robert abp. of York and John Uvedale, treasurer for payment of the King's garrisons in the North, witnessing that (in pursuance of the Council's letter of 20 Sept. last, directing the Abp., to deliver out of the money "rising of the Contribution within the county and city of Yorke and the town and county of Kingeston upon Hull," 2,000l., for the said garrisons), Uvedale has that day received 2,000l. by the hands of Thomas Marser and John Coltman, clerks. Signed: Jo. Vuedale.
P. 1. Endd.: "Monethely 1,700l."
5 Oct. 226. Privy Council of Scotland.
Meeting at St. Andrews, 5 Oct. Present: bps. of Dunkeld, Moray, and Galloway, earl of Crawford, abbots of Cupar, Dumfermling, Glenluse and Culross, Sir Wm. Hamilton, Clerk Register. Business: Day given to Thos. Gaderair to account for the goods of the late Alexander bp. of Moray.
5 Oct. 227. The Duke of Ferrara to Henry VIII.
R. O. Takes the opportunity of Ludovico Montio's return (for whom he begs credence) to send commendations. Ferrara, 5 Oct. 1546. Signed.
Italian. P. 1. Add. Sealed. Endd.
5 Oct. 228. Pole to Cardinals de Monte and Cervini.
Poli Epp.
IV. 199.
Has received their last of the 26th ult. Has nothing to say about the suspicion of plague, except that precautions here seem to be somewhat relaxed, because everyone is admitted who comes from Trent or elsewhere, provided he can give assurance that he comes from a place free from infection. Thinks therefore none of the prelates going to Trent will be delayed on this account; but the nuncio of Venice had better have letters from you. The Bp. of Worcester (fn. n6) has sent me the copy of the reformed decree on Justification, on which you ask my opinion. Does not know how to give it without asking questions and being informed on many points. Besides, he is so ill he cannot think what to write in a matter of such importance; for though his nights have been quieter, by day the pain in his arm is worse than usual. Nevertheless will examine the matter as well as he can, and hopes in a few days to report his opinion viva voce. Thanks them for their report of Card. Farnese's convalescence. Padua, 5 Oct. 1546.


  • n1. Diodati and Balbani.
  • n2. "Scheland," MS.; which seems to be an error for "Schottland."
  • n3. "hath done," altered from "will."
  • n4. It is not quite certain, though probable, that this leaf is a continuation of the last. Neither is it certain that the endorsement, which is pasted on the last leaf belongs to either, But internal evidence suggests that they are all one document.
  • n5. Neuburg.
  • n6. Meaning Pate.