House of Commons Journal Volume 12: 16 June 1698

Jovis, 16 die Junii;

Decimo Gulielmi.

Prayers.

Sufferers at Londonderry.

THE House, according to Order, took into Consideration the Address relating to Londonderry:

And the same being again read;

Resolved, That the said Address be re-committed to the same Committee, who drew up the same: And that they do draw up an Address, upon the Debate of the House.

Registring Ships.

Mr. Jeffryes, according to Order, presented to the House a Bill for enlarging the Time for Registring of Ships, pursuant to the Act for preventing Frauds and regulating Abuses, in the Plantation-Trade: And the same was received.

The Bill was read the First time.

Resolved, That the Bill be read a Second time.

Estates given to superstitious Uses.

Ordered, That the Bill to vest the Estates given to superstitious Uses in Greenwich Hospital, for the Maintenance of Seamen; and other charitable Uses; be read a Second time To-morrow Morning.

A Member to attend.

Ordered, That the Lord Cornbury do attend in his Place upon Monday Morning next.

Committees.

Ordered, That all Committees be revived.

Duties on Low Wines.

Resolved, That this House will, upon Saturday Morning next, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider of the Bill to prevent the Frauds and Abuses of Distillers, and others chargeable with the Duties upon low Wines, and Spirits.

Preventing false Election Returns.

Resolved, That this House will, To-morrow Morning, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider of the Bill for making more effectual an Act, made in the 23d Year of the Reign of King Henry the Sixth, for remedying false and undue Returns of Members of Parliament; and also to prevent Double Returns.

Supply Bill; raising Annuities. [New E. I. Co. incorporated.]

The House, according to Order, resolved itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider further of the Bill for raising a Sum, not exceeding 2,000,000l. by settling a perpetual Fund for Payment of certain Annuities, after the Rate of Eight Pounds per Annum for every Hundred Pounds, and by further Advantages therein mentioned, redeemable by Parliament.

Mr. Speaker left the Chair,

Sir Tho. Littleton took the Chair of the Committee.

Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.

Sir Tho. Littleton reported from the said Committee, That they had made a further Progress in the Matter to them referred; and had Notice, That there was a Message from the Lords to the House, for a Conference; and therefore, the Committee had directed him to move, That they may have Leave to sit again.

Resolved, That this House will, immediately after the Conference, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider further of the said Bill.

Conference with Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Miles Cook and Sir Robert Legard:

Mr. Speaker,

The Lords do desire a present Conference with this House, in the Painted Chamber, upon the Subject-matter of the last Conference.

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Resolved, That the House do agree to a present Conference, as the Lords do desire.

And the Messengers were called in again; and Mr. Speaker acquainted them therewith.

Ordered, That the Committee who managed the last Conference, do manage this Conference.

And they went to the Conference.

And, being returned;

Sir Rowland Gwyn reported the Conference: That the same was managed by the Earl of Rochester: Who said, That the Lords have desired this Conference with the House of Commons, in order to continue that good Correspondence, which they will always endeavour to preserve between the Two Houses; and, having given Instances of their Compliance upon several Occasions, the Sincerity of their Intentions, towards that End, cannot be doubted: But if, at this Time they cannot consent to what the Commons desire, they hope, that even their disagreeing in this Point may tend to a better Correspondence for the future; their Lordships conceiving, That, in all Proceedings between the Two Houses, those Methods that have been constantly practised are the least liable to Objections; and that the consenting to any One Innovation, in such Cases, may occasion further Disputes: And whereas the Commons have instanced, That in the Tryals of the Earl of Strafford, and the Lord Viscount Strafford, they had a convenient Place appointed for their Managers, their Lordships must observe, That both those Tryals were for High Treason, and in Westminster-Hall: But, upon all Tryals for Misdemeanors, which have been constantly at the Bar of their Lordships House, there is not one Precedent in their Books, that the House of Commons have ever, till this Time, asked what they have desired upon this Occasion; and therefore, their Lordships do insist on their Resolution, signified to the House of Commons, by a Message delivered to them on the Ninth Instant, in which they did acquaint them, That their Lordships, having looked into Precedents, do find, That, at Tryals upon Impeachments at the Bar of the House of Lords, the Committee of the House of Commons, appointed to manage the Evidence, have always come to the Bar of the House, without any other Provision for them; and their Lordships intend to proceed in the same manner, as hath been usual at all Tryals within their House.

Resolved, That this House will, To-morrow Morning, take the said Report into Consideration.

Supply Bill; raising Annuities. [New E. I. Co. incorporated.]

The House, according to Order, resolved itself again into a Committee of the whole House, to consider further of the Bill for raising a Sum, not exceeding 2,000,000l. by settling a perpetual Fund for Payment of certain Annuities, after the Rate of 8l. per Annum for every Hundred Pounds, and by further Advantages therein mentioned, redeemable by Parliament.

Mr. Speaker left the Chair.

Sir Tho. Littleton took the Chair of the Committee.

Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.

Sir Tho. Littleton reported from the said Committee, That they had gone through the Bill for granting to his Majesty, his Heirs and Successors, several additional Duties upon Salt; and also, the Bill for raising a Sum, not exceeding 2,000,000l. by settling a perpetual Fund for Payment of certain Annuities, after the Rate of 8l. per Annum for every Hundred Pounds, and by further Advantages therein mentioned, redeemable by Parliament; and made several Amendments thereunto; and had consolidated both Bills; and had directed him to report the same, when the House will please to receive the said Report.

Ordered, That the Report be made To-morrow Morning.

And then the House adjourned till To-morrow Morning, Nine a Clock.